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Thanks
Hi Dwaipayan, List of districts of West Bengal has got promoted to FL. Thanks for your comments/suggestions in peer review/FLC review.--GDibyendu (talk) 16:04, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

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How to use this top Indian Wikipedian list for effective collaboration
Hi, I have added a section 'How to use this list for effective collaboration' on User:Tinucherian/Indians WP page to see if we can put this list to really good use, pl give your thoughts on the same and we can take it further from there. Thanks. Vjdchauhan (talk) 18:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC).

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Chak De India is now GA
Hi Dwai - Good news, Chak De India is now a GA. Thanks for your help!-Classicfilms (talk) 23:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Actually, you did help quite a bit. Two thoughts - the first is that eventually I'd like to see Chak De move to FAC but I think it will need a fresh set of eyes - I'm sure there is more that we could add but I'd need a new perspective. The other - I'd like to see Taare Zameen Par go for GAN next but it still needs a lot of work - more could be added, the large quotes integrated and so forth. It's a wonderful and quite unique film (from what I can tell, the only feature film with the issue of dyslexia as the main theme rather than as one of many subplots) which makes innovative use of CG. Not being nominated for an Oscar shouldn't really determine the fate of this film and I think that with a little bit of help from other Wikipedians, it could grow into a fine article. I think that's it for now. -Classicfilms (talk) 02:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Forgot to add that I also thinkParineeta (2005 film) is a good candidate to push towards FAC. -Classicfilms (talk) 03:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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Progress report: Country outlines
Development has been slow but continuous:

Penubag has done a fantastic job on the images for the awards we'll be using for our project's collaborations and contests. We now have 3 awards: a medal, a trophy, and a race ribbon. They all look tight. The trophy needs a small adjustment, but other than that, all 3 award images are complete and ready to use to create awards with.

Spartaz has warned us of (threatened to take) G4 (speedy delete) action if we run a competition that resembles the previously deleted Awards Center page. So whatever we do, any contests we run must differ substantially from the methods used there.

One type of competition I've been exploring is edit racing. I'm in the process of working the bugs out of this concept - the first race didn't work as expected - you see, because we only had an award for first place, the opponent didn't think it worthwhile to continue once it was clear who the winner would be. And since editors are in different time zones and usually need to start the race at different times, we need to base winning on personal start times - he who completes his assigned edits in the least time (rather than first), wins. And last but not least is quality control. What good is winning if your edits are ripe with errors? So I'll be exploring possibilities such as using a referee (whoever is overseeing a particular race), having participants watching each other for errors to knock them back, etc. I'm not sure yet.

Rich Farmbrough has been applying his bot expertise to filling in blanks in the country outlines (the population and area entries). I'm amazed at the number of edits he pumps out each day on a myriad of projects - ours makes up but a small time slice of his activity, and yet he has saved us many hours of manual work. Perhaps we should look into how he gets so much done. :)

Zlerman has chosen to work on one outline at a time, and is taking on Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. He also has been keen on noticing and reporting design issues pertaining to the whole set of country outlines. Keep up the good work!

Highfields has been filling in the names of capitals, and is our first race winner. Check out the award on his user pages.

As you probably know, this project has expanded to include working on any and all sets of pages that are linked to from the country outlines. Once the set of country outlines go live (in article space), traffic will likely increase for all the links included on them. The quality and usefulness of those pages will reflect heavily on the country outlines (the outlines, which are essentially lists of links, are only as good as the links they present), and therefore we've branched out to solve the biggest problems with those as well. So far, we've taken on:
 * The creation of disambiguation pages for country adjectivals ("German", "French", "Taiwanese", etc. About half done.)
 * The clean-up of the CIA World Factbook statistics on the "demographics of" country pages. We've been renaming those sections to provide a key string that AWB can use for targetting (for skipping and filtering).  Once that's done, we'll be able to break the clean-up down into simple AWB search/replace tasks, because we'll be able to target just those pages that include the CIA stuff.
 * Renaming the "Cuisine of" articles to their adjectival forms ("Chinese cuisine", "Italian cuisine", etc.)

Blackadam2 and Thehelpfulone have been helping out with the "demographics of" pages mentioned above.

And we have a couple speed addicts (addicted to wiki-velocity, not drugs)...

Both Robert Skyhawk and Thehelpfulone prefer (and excel at) simple AWB search/replaces. Robert hasn't actually joined our team yet, but he has been helping out quite a bit from the sidelines (via the WP:AWB/Tasks page. Unfortunately, there has recently been a non-AWB chore that has been holding things up on the AWB front - an edit to all the the headings which had to be reverted before too many new edits were made, because any new edits would make the reversion more difficult.  The headings have been restored, so now the way is clear for AWB operations, and there are many search/replace tasks in the queue.  AWB assignments have started again!

There's a similar bottleneck on the "Demographics of" pages (the "keying" mentioned above), but that's almost cleared too. :)

With my internet access somewhat crippled, I've been finding it difficult to keep up with you guys. However, I expect to be accessing a Linky-capable workstation on a faster server (I'm on it right now, as you can probably tell from my contributions list for today), and so I should really pick up speed. Feels goooooood. :)

Recruiting has been a bit slow (but steady), due in part to my crippled access, and because we've been waiting for the images for the awards to be completed. I expect the team to grow more rapidly as the bottlenecks are removed.

Well that's what's been happenin', and here's what's in the pipeline...

I'm about to begin work on a set of lists that corresponds to all the standard links on the country outlines, and these will be presented on the Topic outline of countries which will be organized exactly like the country outlines. Aside from being an extremely useful navigation aid, it will allow editors to easily see the state of country coverage on Wikipedia. I'll provide you with a link once I get up to speed on this.

In the meantime, keep up the good work!

Cheers,

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The education in India article, a top importance article under WP: India, has recently been rewritten by me. Though the rewrite is is no way complete I invite you to take a look and see, and if possible contribute. Sincerely,  JSR   0562  18:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Could you take a look...
Hi Dwai,

When you have some free time, could you take a look at just the lead for Taare Zameen Par? I know it needs work but I need a fresh pair of eyes to see what is needed. Hope all is well, -Classicfilms (talk) 19:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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How've you been pal? Long time... Shahid •  Talk 2 me  19:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh yeh. That must have been an exciting day and I felt very sad, but Rahul had taken a photo of the main page and it is now on my user page:) I'm very happy you're well. And I hope that you be present when Pather Panchali is featured on the main page. ;) Talk 2 me... :) Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:50, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Something new is if you didn't know, Zinta is nominated for a Genie Award - from the Canadian Academy of Film and Television for Heaven on Earth (film) by Deepa Mehta. It's particularly great because she is nominated along with Oscar winners like Susan Sarandon. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  19:56, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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regarding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India#History
the matter of farmers' suicide in India is quite touchy. Yet it takes care of much that is known in public about government policy as also the problems of farmers.

The article does seem to be balanced and does not, in my opinion, push any particular bias or partial agenda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Upendrabaxi2004 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

re. article on farmers suicide in india http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_suicides_in_India#History
The article touches upon a very critical issue. The matter of farmers suicide is complex and does invite strong biased views. Yet the present article seems quite balanced. It does not push any particular agenda either. upendra 13:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)Upendrabaxi2004upendra 13:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Upendrabaxi2004 (talk • contribs)

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Country outlines project update - 2009/03/08
Remember "Around the World"?

Well, we've been around the World, and around again (virtually speaking, on Wikipedia), on this project.

Things have been slowing down again, so it's time for a big push...

We've gone live
This project needed a shot in the arm. Also, its draft pages have been littering Wikipedia's categories for months. The time seemed right to move all the country outline drafts to article space.

WHAT???

Well, the drafts had been sitting in Wikipedia space for a year.

WHAT???

Development has been moving at a snail's pace and we could use the help of the Wikipedia community at large (who are more likely to find these if they are in article space).

WHAT???

Yes, we've gone live. :)

This puts pressure on us to get the blatantly incomplete elements of these outlines done. The only glaring problem is the government branches sections. These need to be corrected ASAP.

I've mentioned THE GOVERNMENT BRANCHES SECTIONS many times to many people over the past year, but the problem just doesn't seem to have been taken seriously. So let me put it another way:

HELP!!! I need your help on this now. Almost all the countries have a government with an executive branch, a legislative branch, and a judicial branch. The links for these branches need to be completed for each country outline:


 * Here's a convenient list you can use WP:LINKY on to access and edit these quickly. Please copy the list's link to the top of your talk page so that you can access it easily.

If you spot any standardization in links, and ways we can automate parts of this process, or for groups of countries that have links in common, please let me know!

Administrative support for outlines
There has been growing pressure on me to write up the administrative pages for outlines - their instructions, guidelines, etc. Therefore, I'm now in the process of composing these. Fortunately, it is mostly a matter of gathering material from messages I've written to you guys over the past year. Still, this is taking up most of my time, and I will be buried in these for the foreseeable future.

Traffic control
The next big task after the government branches sections are cleaned up is link support for the outlines.

There's quite a list of links and notices that need to be put in place around Wikipedia, providing access to them to readers, and alerting editors to the need to develop and maintain these pages. This will keep our bot people very busy (and happy).

But the most important thing right now is to get the government branches sections completed. So please, put your bots aside, roll up your shirt sleeves, and start typing.

Thank you.

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On the Beighton Cup Winners and Runners-up
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Reply from Ninadhardikar
Thanks boss. I am not a very regular at edits and there might be few mistakes around my edits. If you do have the time please go through them. We need to get some more people interested through the Mumbai discussion page. What do you think Ninadhardikar (talk) 02:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:INCOTM
Decent response. But, I am not sure that enough participation will be there for reaching FA-level, but GA can be met. Hopefully at least one can reach FA.--GDibyendu (talk) 06:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Harvnb
Harvnb is a standard across all FAs. If we have multiple references to the same book, then the only solution is Harvnb. Anyway, I am reverting to the original format since for this article we won't have many references to the same book. Thanks, Kensplanet (talk) 17:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Direct Action Day
Thank you for your detailed post in the above topic, I have replied to the issues outlined, please have a read. Khokhar (talk) 23:55, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

We seem to agree on a lot of whats been stated, however I have further clarified what would be a fairer and balanced view for the start of the article, to reply to a few of the issues raised.

A perceived ambiguity in explaining the word Direct action, which was probably referred to as 'hartal' by the lay people, would not be a fair reason on it's own to assume instigation. As for not controlling/directing mobs, as explained, it would not be reasonable to assume the police/military would stand by and do nothing, what was stated in the source ([17]), I quote "The League's rally at Ochterloney Monument on that day was considered as the 'largest ever Muslim assembly'. The Muslim League Chief Minister in his address reportedly assured the audience that the military and police had been 'restrained'", when not taken out of context, it seems quite clear the chief minister's comments were aimed at allowing the protest (as such large gathering are generally not allowed) to continue and should not be construed to mean 'let the violence continue'. The inflammatory propaganda, as already stated, was probably present on both sides and can not be taken as evidence against the Muslim league or it's leaders in general.

You also take a lot of sources from Bengal divided by Joya Chatterji ([18]), Though a lot of her work is sourced and clearly well thought out, I feel it is not entirely neutral and some of what is stated is her point of view, one such example being a chapter called and based on 'Hindu unity and Muslim Tyranny', neutral historians generally do not lead you into such pre-conceptions.

You state that "Hindu mobs did not START it, Muslims mobs did"

This seems to be the core of the argument for the Muslim league being responsible for 'instigating', as mentioned in the article, you admit that violence took place on both sides and some was prepared well in advance, however you go on to state that 'Muslim mobs did' start the violence, even IF this was true it does not implicate the Muslim league (as mentioned in the article), but as you have accepted, the Muslim league might have asked for a 'general strike' but they (the Muslim league in general) did not ask for violence.

As for whether 'Muslim mobs did', seeing as some preparations were made well in advance, as acknowledged by many sources including those you posted, and as stated in one of the earlier sources in the article ([19]) which sates, I quote "Acid bombs were manufactured and stored in Hindu-owned factories long before the outbreak. Calcutta's Hindu blacksmiths were mobilised to prepare spearheads and other weapons". It would be impossible to be certain if Muslims or Hindu's 'started' the violence, for all we know, it could have been a case of a group of Muslims, while peacefully protest marching, being attacked by 'acid bombs' and this could mean 'Hindus STARTED' the violence. However such a claim would be dubious and so it is fair to state both sides had prepared for violence in advance which got terribly out of control. Best wishes Khokhar (talk) 14:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)