User talk:Dwaipayanc/Archive 6

In re Quiz
Not much, started work recently in Cal :( so much less time, also you guys are good with the research. Moreover the last few questions have been so far out, I was totally perplexed. Take the recent one by hydkat for example, need clues :). gunslotsofguns 18:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * lol..no no ami kolkatari bangali, actually addhek bangali arr bangladeasehi bosho-bash! gunslotsofguns 18:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No, have sold my soul to the devil a.k.a. lawyer. :) I used to quiz here a bit (school and open), but now have no idea about open quizzing (assume argus and di are still around) or more importantly a team.gunslotsofguns 19:09, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Very clever. I did wonder! :) Actually I knew the "source" pretty well (and his Qs) because I have gone to a plethora of his quizzes. gunslotsofguns
 * It did, you won't believe the '-'s I had to put in google for all the random territories that people kept saying India had annexed! gunslotsofguns 19:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

IIM parameters
Hi - you raise interesting points. First off, I agree that League and others must be mentioned, but I assert that League was not a part of the struggle, becoz right from 1906 to 1916, again in the 1920s and from the late 1930s, they co-operated with the British, frowned over Muslim rights and opposed Indian civil disobedience campaigns. Jinnah even committed himself to opposing independence for India without the concession of Pakistan. I grant they were an important political party, but not with the mission or conduct of attaining India's freedom. Still, you give a good case for proper inclusion of the League.

The League was not responsible for giving us freedom sooner - if Jinnah had agreed with the Desai-Liaquat pact of 1942, or agreed to the Cabinet mission arrangements in 1946, everything would have proceeded properly. but in 1946 he especially committed himself to forestalling the constituent assembly, and complete opposition to writing a constitution for united India. His entry into government after DAD was despite not having accepting even one of the Cabinet plans!

The British mind was changed owing to the impact of Quit India in terms of widespread disenchantment with the British and an exhaustion of Britain's own willpower and resources and international public opinion. Not one of the many empires - German, British, French, Japanese, Portuguese survived WWII. Even though dismantlement was stretched into the 1960s, it was clear they had to go. The League must be represented as a strong element of India's political atmosphere at the time. But the article is not "Politics in British India." This is the basis of my belief that we cannot really add much from the League, the Mahasabha, the RSS or the Liberals. Still, all is open for debate. Rama&#39;s Arrow 19:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You did pinch a nerve there by suggesting that League activists were on the same level as my grandma... Heheheh, no sweat, with absolutely no intention of "pouncing." I respect Jinnah, who had a great impact on Indian history, but the IIM is different from other political activities of the time. You are right in pointing out the need for revolutionaries to get more representation. Plus, you made a super-excellent observation on activities in South India. I have good info in that regard - leaders include Rajaji of TN, Mahtab of Orissa, Pattabhi of Andhra and bunch of others in Kerala and Karnataka. Rama&#39;s Arrow 19:51, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Btw, this shows a big error in Category:Indian freedom fighters. All of these anything-but-freedom fighters are included in the cat. This must be corrected. Rama&#39;s Arrow 19:52, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Jinnah, Tegh Bahadur Sapru, Syama Prasad Mookherjee (if I'm correct, he did not participate in Quit India), Tara Singh, Baldev Singh. A few more as well. Rama&#39;s Arrow 20:00, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes I had anticipated trouble on describing Jinnah as an Indian, but I'm glad nothing happened, mainly becoz there is a factual basis for calling him an Indian. I've seen many Pakistani Wikipedians doing excellent work here with a positive attitude. Jimbo Wales' sermon that we are Wikipedians here, adovacates outside rings true for all. Siddiqui has had his problems here, but he's a very good editor. I am very stimulated by working/interacting with Pakistanis, and I hope to be able to visit the length and breadth of Pakistan soon - fascinating place. Rama&#39;s Arrow 20:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You'd be wrong on your PII comment: the peer review improved the article by more than 50%. Without the aid of Deeptrivia, Sundar, Nichalp and others, this would not have happened. Get some sleep Babumoshai! Rama&#39;s Arrow 20:09, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah no sweat - when it comes to PII, I'm possessive enough. Rama&#39;s Arrow 20:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't regard modesty as a virtue, as per Sherlock Holmes - just see things as they are. Rama&#39;s Arrow 20:22, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Kolkata
Yo Blacksun! I was wondering where were you! good that you have come. Yeah I am too looking forward for further collaborations. You were almost a gift from heaven in time of need. (in the initial days, remember!) I think those were your first days in Wikipedia as well.--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * oh ya - and i kept forgetting to sign my posts etc. I just have been little busy as I had to revise my thesis.  --Blacksun 19:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Hullo Dwaipayan,

I don't know who added this, but it doesn't seem objectionable to me:

"British achievements in colonial Calcutta included India's first newspaper, the discovery of the link between malaria and mosquitoes, and pioneering scientific development of the electric telegraph."

These are all interesting facts about the History of the City, although perhaps they belong on the History of Calcutta page: they certainly aren't vandalism worthy of automatic reversion, and I imagine the author, whoever he or she is, may feel a bit peeved about it. You can always removed the word "British" if you like, although it's a bit difficult to write them out of the History of Calcutta altogether. The story of the discovery of the link between malaria and mosquitoes by Sir Ronald Ross is particularly fascinating, and is the subject of Amitav Ghosh's novel The Calcutta Chromosome. I might add that to the "Calcutta in literature" section.

Sikandarji 07:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi
It's OK. I respect everyone that stands for their priciples. Siddiqui 20:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Kolkata and IIT
I will surely do it by 15th. BTW, I have decided to wait for some more time before pushing for IIT article. Nichalp is still to give his feedback and considering his experience, I feel that only after he gives a green signal I should go ahead with the FAC. Also, I am currently working on articles related to IIT. Just yesterday I created the History of IITs article. I plan to write stub biographies on notable IIT alumnus who still don't have a wikipedia page yet. The Joint Entrance Examination article also needs expansion and cleaning up. So do some of the specific IIT articles as well as IIT Schools of Management. This will mean that the article would go for FAC no sooner than 20th May. Hopefully if I am able to concentrate on them for the coming few days, I will be able to start the process by 20th. Anyway, I am in no hurry. Its better to start late and succeed rather that start another pre-mature FAC. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 07:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

the fort images
I fear they may be deleted... its proving to be very difficult to find out who took them. I found 2 sources though, both I think are copy vios. &

--h y dka t 16:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Patel
Hi - I greatly appreciate your taking time to give advice on Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel. I need to take a one-day Wikibreak, but I'll begin my final assault on the article on May 2nd, and send it to FAC on May 3rd. Sorry for the fresh delay, but I need this break. Please lemme know if you find any further issues in the article. Rama&#39;s Arrow 00:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling
Nope, I didn't get a chance to visit Darjeeling. Regards, =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:21, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling
Yep, I been to darjeeling on a school trip. It was loads of fun. I hope to go back someday. --Blacksun 03:56, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

re: Darjeeling
Hi Dwaipayan, saw that you included Balurghat in Wikiproject Indian Cities. Thanks for that. Anyways, I went through the Darjeeling article. Its quite nice an article, with a few minor problems which I pointed out. The only thing missing from the article is, I think, a focus on Tourism. Otherwise, its really a good article. And on a different note, since it is a part of West Bengal, I think the spelling in Bengali script should also be included. What do you think?

And I will be going to Darjeeling around 15th of May. If you think there is something that needs to be verified, you may drop in a note.

Regards, -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  13:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I asked for a note. You gave me a whole notebook!!! Anywayz, the pics wont be a problem. Nor would be a bit of background on the monasteries. And I will find out something regd Darjeeling Carnival. Its only the info on crime, newspapers etc and old establishments that I cant assure you. Be rest assured, you will have an information overload.


 * And as for Balurghat, on my last visit home, I coalesced a lot of material from libraries. But they are in Bengali, so I am having to go through the painful process of translation. I am working on it, in an offline article. May I take the pleasure of inviting you to do a review of it once it is done, and before I update the wikipedia article with this one. -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  14:24, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Follow up article due to India quiz :)
Fort Arnala Still need help about the copy right issue though --h y dka t 16:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * How do you go about creating a DYK entry? --h y dka t 16:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Yo
Hi - I'm gonna have to take a break until May 7th. I'm sorry for the further delay in getting Patel and IIM to FAC. I request you that if convenient, please see that the IIM PR is not archived as we will need further input soon. Take care in the interim. Cheers, Rama&#39;s Arrow 20:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

PISARC
Hello. Thanks for the note. I think it is okay now. Just had to remove the includeonly tag out of the message box.-- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu _ Joseph 11:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's ok now. Perhaps you need to add a clause "or is not related to India". -- Sundar \talk \contribs 11:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I meant adding the clause to the message in the template. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

TOC
Hi, I had been thinking for some time about the problems associated with the TOC. And today, I found the impetus to formally state the problems. I have done it in my talk page, and am interested in finding if some possible solution comes up (which can then be proposed on village pump). Could you please take a look and if possible give some suggestions. -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  11:42, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Portal:India/Selected article removal candidates
Hi Dwaipayan, I'm a little confused, can you clarify what you're wanting changed from the template? It looks okay to me now (I looked at about Raja Ravi Varma and Cheese. AreJay 13:11, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on winning the third round.
Nice job - you pretty much creamed the round! BTW, just curious - is you college also experiencing the qouta hullaballo at the moment? gunslotsofguns 16:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well done, and now that you've won you can use the template.

 Noble eagle   (Talk)   07:12, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * oh yeah! congrats... --h y dka t 10:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Pakistan's 2006 population
Access US Census Bureau page select mid-year population, then select Pakistan from countries drop-down list and 2006 from year drop-down list. You can obtain historical and forecasted data for all countries and regions of the world. Siddiqui 20:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks
 * Siddiqui 21:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

found an interesting category...
Category:Indian economics and finance stubs; like this, is their a way to look for all article stubs sorted by category? --h y dka t 10:49, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Gauhar Jan
Hi, could you please take a look at Gauhar Jan article. It is in such a bad shape!!! I don't know whether to list it for NPOV violations, or AfD? It is desperately in need of some major work. The tone of the article makes it sound like its lifted off some publication, but I am not sure. What can be done with it so that it gets the attention of people familiar with the subject? -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  12:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The subject is notable enough, thats why I didn't nom for deletion. But it does need a fresh start - the POV is too deep rooted. I will keep on searching for source of copyvio. Thanks for ur efforts, again. Bye. -- so U  m  y  a  S  ch  15:08, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling
Sure thing. This will be a fun/beautiful page to copyedit. Thanks. Saravask 18:39, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll comment on Darjeeling &mdash; been a little busy at work today, but I'll get to it over the weekend. Seems like a beautiful town from the images, I'd love to visit. AreJay 22:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Karachi page
The claim one of the the world's tallest fountains was added by somebody. I have to check who added it and whether the claim is true. Thanks. Siddiqui 18:56, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks &mdash; it went much more smoothly than I expected. I figured I'd save the 67 voters a big ugly RFA thank-you box and just write spot notes. Thanks. Saravask 05:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

reply
Hi Dwaipayan - excellent work on Darjeeling! Don't hesitate in starting peer review. I'm starting the final offensive on Patel in the morning of 6th (EST) and I hope that within 5 hours, it will be FAC. Cheers, Rama&#39;s Arrow 05:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I will also finish a lot of work on IIM today and Sunday. Rama&#39;s Arrow 05:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the peer review input on TS !
Thanks so much for the helpful comments on Peer review/Tourette syndrome/archive1. Your comments go exactly to the issues I have been trying to improve in the article, but with a shortage of other editors involved, consensus on taking a pair of editing shears to the article has eluded me. An editor unknown to me put the article up for peer review before I felt it was ready, as there is still so much work to be done on it, and I was hoping to get more editors involved before considering it ready for review. The timing couldn't have been worse for me, as due to other commitments, I will have no serious time to devote to the article for at least a few more weeks. As soon as I have more free time, I'm looking forward to working on the issues raised in the peer review, and appreciate the time you spent in reviewing the article. Please drop me a note if you have any further suggestions, as I will get to them as soon as I can! Thanks again. Sandy 14:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I created main articles, for use with Summary Style, on the two sections I thought most needed them. I think the article is now a decent size.  Would like to hear your opinion.  Still have a large "To Do" list.  Thanks !  Sandy 04:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the additional comments ! I haven't been able to make Template:Infobox Disease work, for adding eMedicine and MedlinePlus info -- can you point me to another medical article which has those links, as an example?  TIA  Sandy 16:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Commercial Links
They are relevant links, may be Commercial.

Lands of the Thunderbolt
I do - I bought it in Darjeeling in fact, at the Oxford bookshop on the Mall. It's easy to find as AES have reprinted it. Most of it is about Sikkim rather than Darjeeling proper, but there are a few references to the monastery at Ghoom which could perhaps be incorporated. I really like the Darjeeling article though - and I have such fond memories of the place, eating breakfast at Glenary's Tea Rooms while the sun rises over Kanchenjunga....Sikandarji 16:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

darjeeling and calcutta
Congratulations on getting Calcutta to be a FA. Unfortunately, I was pressed for time the past few months and did not get much time to contribute. Darjeeling also seems to be shaping up well, maybe a small paragraph on one of the original residents - Lepchas ?

BTW, I did make edits to the Ganges photo in Calcutta, but not sure what to do next. can i upload the edited stuff it here under gpl / cc ? i still have to link back for the credits, dont i ?

Also, do you think a calcutta portal would have 5 / 10 takers, preferably some ppl in calcutta ? one of my many unfulfilled ideas is to document etymology of place names in calcutta, but such a plan needs a portal or template or something to boost it. i found that templates help, as with National Parks of India - we have 100 badly written stubs instead of zero articles a year back. In fact, if you have been to any of the NPs, (Sunderbans maybe ?) you might want to take a look. Cheers. Pradiptaray 16:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling
Sorry about the delay in replying. Hardly got a breather this week. Had a prelim look at the article and made some changes, will provide more input. gunslotsofguns 19:24, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * My bad on the Percy Brown thing. I was working with an older version and completely forgot. Sorry about that. Will include your changes ASAP. gunslotsofguns 08:31, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism on Tagore
Just how much was Tagore vandalized before it was sprotected &mdash; was it hundreds of malicious edits? Yeesh, I never thought he had become *that* unpopular. Saravask 07:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it's not Tagore's unpopularity ... rather some vandals who target the daily featured articles. --Ragib 07:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * See this &mdash; a personal attack on an admin in an edit summary while editing/vandalizing Tagore; thus, the attack edit was deleted from the history and the page sprotected. It was not a question of mass vandalism. Saravask 08:43, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Audio
I have sent you an email. Please check it out & do the needful.

Thanks

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  )  09:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Iconoclastic
Eh &mdash; I figured that "iconoclastic pragmatist" verges on being an oxymoron anyway. I think it reads much more smoothly now with one less five-syllable word. We should let readers decide for themselves per WP:PEACOCK whether he is an "iconoclast" by describing his actions. That's my take anyway. Saravask 12:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Hi Dwaipayan - could you please spare a little time on this -? Shreshth91 and I are trying to resolve some serious issues and we could use your advice a helluva lot. Rama&#39;s Arrow 18:18, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

about one of your article creations...
How is it you came about to start the article on Gastric lymphoma? :-) --h y dka t 09:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I hope you like to read books... then I have a reading-suggestion for you: Complications by Dr. Atul Gawande. I think you'll like it. --h y dka t  11:23, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Administering Wikipedia
Hi Dwaipayan,

I have a couple of queries and i would be grateful if you can answer...(yeps, i will continue to post)

1. How did you come to of my post and the fact that i updated them recently? Is there any administration? I would be encouraging others to contribute to wiki and hope to find out if any of them really put up...hence asked.

2. Is there a way to make all the messages in my discussion page come to my mailbox? I may not be seeing this regularly but definitely keep a watch on my mailbox...

By the way, are there any award for good/regular posts...i saw some in your discussion board. what are they?

- Bharath (bharath12345@yahoo.com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharath12345 (talk • contribs)

Your welcome and second message
I have noted the contents regarding my signature on Dholavira and same is removed.

The Ancient Metropolitan City Dholavira is not included in the List of World Heritage Site of UNESCO. vkvora 18:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

regards vkvora2001@yahoo.co.in —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vkvora2001 (talk • contribs)

Pakistan
Hi there, thanks for alerting me to this sad revert war. Originally, Holy Ganga added the BBC article on the report but used language that needed more refinement. I added the links to the Foreign Policy magazine report itself and the BBC article which followed the original which showed the Pakistani Government's reaction. I agree with Jibran that it is better placed in Gov't and Politics than in economy. The most notable thing is the lack of conversation on talkpages, which is unacceptable if something as controversial as this is going to be discussed. On the contrary to your statement about not indulging too much, I think your contribution would be very important to helping resolve this issue. :) Green Giant 22:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Culture of India
Ya, the topic is so vast. We are talking about the most culturally dense country in the world. But then...I like the challenge. Right now, I'm attempting to include some text under each section, from the main articles. That would be a start, I guess. And oh, btw, great work with the Darjeeling article. Its the land of thunderboltz....;) -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu _ Joseph 16:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Tourette syndrome OMIM etal
Hi again! Thanks for the additions and help. I deleted the OMIM entry because it has numerous errors (for example, the gene(s) for TS have not been identified, but that is not the only error in the OMIM info). Likewise, I didn't add the DiseasesDB info, as it doesn't even contain the correct diagnostic criterion. I tried to change the eMedicine article to this one, which is more comprehensive, but couldn't figure out how to change it. Is there a way to add both of them? The MedlinePlus info is here, but I don't know how to add it either. I'll look around for a sample. I'll work on association with ADHD and OCD when I have a larger block of free time. I appreciate the help - thanks again. Sandy 19:22, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling
Saw you were still up. Article looks great. Good job. Regards -- Samir (the scope) धर्म 19:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Ahmedabad PR
Thanks for the comments on Ahmedabad PR. I have replied there. - Aksi_great (talk) 10:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

TS article
Very nice - left comment on my talk page. Sandy 11:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Kolkata article
Hi,

Is the Kolkata article stable now? I mean with regards to audio rendering. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

India SA
I feel that Saravask would be the best option. But we have more important issue at hand - To motivate people to participate in FA discussions. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes my exams are over and I am all set to move IIT to FAC. I have asked Nichalp for a final review and when it is done, I will move it to FAC. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * If you have any exams coming (appears that they do), Best of Luck. BTW, have you taken a look at this coin, while its from Sri Lanka, the text on it closely resembles modern Bangla. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 05:47, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Good insight. Your explaination is quite plausible. I am learning history fast. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 06:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Locator map
I'd made a separate Mumbai location map is just for testing. (colours et. al.). We have paused our work as the image is being voted on Featured picture candidates as a possible featured picture. Once the outcome is clear, we'll resume our work. Our work involves the best technology available to wikipedia today. Briefly, I'll explain what we're doing. To learn more about this stuff, please read: Template talk:Infobox protected area.
 * Finding the relationship between lat+lon and pixels
 * Using this relationship to plot the location on the map.
 * The base map will be this blank map for all Indian locations, and over it will be superimposed the location (unique to each city).

=Nichalp  «Talk»=  08:59, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Review request
Hi! I've put the Kochi article up for a peer review. Could you please see the article and post your comments here? Thanks!-- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu _ Joseph 10:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, thanks ;) Initially I hadn't felt the need to link most of them. Most of the freedom fighters and all are not even prominent - they probably wont pass the notability test. Thanks for the review, yaar. I'll give a reply there soon. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu _ Joseph 15:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Now the article is allegedly over wikified - see here and here. Great! *bangs his head on the desk in disbelief*-- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu _ Joseph 15:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Riots
I have already mentioned a sentence about the post-godhra riots with a wikilink to the Gujarat Riots. There were no riots/disturbances after the recents vadodara riots. So there is no need to mention that. - Aksi_great (talk) 19:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I thought too. - Aksi_great (talk) 19:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Tandoori
You can change it if you like - I just thought that perhaps the older picture showed an entire meal, wheras this one shows just the tandoori :-) Vastu 04:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)