User talk:Dwaipayanc/Archive 9

Image:Abhijan 01.jpg and Image:Abhijan 02.jpg
The new tags look good! Thanks for updating them. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 18:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Governor of West Bengal
This article is required in Wikipedia. There's only an article Governors of West Bengal (list of two Governors). Good luck for the exams. --Victor.P.Das 21:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll give it a try, but I actually want an article on the Governor of West Bengal (his offcial role, etc). --Victor.P.Das 05:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. --Victor.P.Das 07:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I am in a process of linking other articles like Raj Bhavan (West Bengal), etc to it. --Victor.P.Das 08:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hey Dwaipayanc,

Thanks for the congrats. :) Cheers. &mdash; Khoikhoi 23:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey
Hi Dwaipayan! Yes, it's been quite interesting and funny at times :) Studying going OK?  Nice to see that Idleguy's back at full strength.  Take care -- Samir   धर्म 04:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I note that you *definitely* pass the Diablo test! When is your Rfa going to be? -- Samir   धर्म 04:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's five languages if you count Punjabi and Urdu which I can get through verbally but cannot read. Six if you count a few words of Guj.  BTW, this is how we speak in hospitals in Toronto.  -- Samir   धर्म 04:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Good luck with the exam!! I fly to the north of Canada to provide some emergency medical services this weekend so it will be busy.  Wikipedia is great for stress relief though!  My big exam is my final Royal College exam in September... (and thanks for all of your support and kind words BTW) -- Samir   धर्म 04:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Birbal would be a great one to build up. So would Sultana Razia.  I fly to northern Canada whenever they call for an emergency.  I feel bad if I have a weekend off and there's no internist in an area with little service.  A lot of it is Third World like, unfortunately.  (And the kind words have been plentiful!) -- Samir   धर्म 05:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Fine
Do not mess in mine I will not mess in your articles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devanshi.shah (talk • contribs)

Re: Agartala
Yes, I am from there. Studied upto Classs 12 there. I am going there after 2 years on July 9, 2006, stay there till July 19, 2006. So I'll watch the FIFA World Cup 2006 finals there. And about articles on Tripura/Agartala, its very difficult to verify them without sources. I've added an infobox to Tripura Engineering College, but got no website for Tripura University. --Victor.P.Das 18:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Bhatkhande
Hey. Thanks for adding the cats. Knew I was forgetting something. Hope you liked the article. - Aksi_great (talk) 18:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Image license issues
Hi Dwaipayanc. Regarding licensing of images in the Ladakh article, how do I know which images are "Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0". All I can see on Flickr is a cc mark, so I don't know how to distinguish cc-by-sa 2.5 from other cc images. We have plenty of Ladakh images, they can be easily replaced. deeptrivia (talk) 16:18, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, I figured it out. Thanks! deeptrivia (talk) 16:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling
Hi Dwaipayanc! Here are a few photos from Darjeeling with the right license:. deeptrivia (talk) 03:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Ever seen this?
Na=98! Confirmed x 3 (101, 98, 100), will take up most of my night (3 AM here). Keep up the answers on PINQ! Gives me a good chuckle!! Take care -- Samir   धर्म 07:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Amiloride and hydrochlorothiazide and lots of water, I think -- Samir  धर्म 07:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you - U.S. FAC
Hi,

Thank you for supporting the recent FAC of United States, but unfortunately it failed to pass. However, I hope you will vote again in the future. In the mean time, please accept this Mooncake as a token of my gratitude.--Ryz05 t 15:45, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

hey thanks for replying. I know a guy with the same name here in kgp so i thought you were him. abhinav 17:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW - Islam in India
You voted for Islam in India, this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 23:44, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling
I went through the article, and couldn't think of much to comment about. Some sections could probably be expanded a bit, but I'll have to think a lot more to give more useful suggestions, which I'll do asap. Thanks, deeptrivia (talk) 23:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi
I'll head over to Darjelling today itself. Now that I'm armed with all the tips that you gave me, let me see what can be done. I've currently put Kochi on a diet. Needs to trim it up a bit, per Nichalp. ;-) -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph05:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, and because of that I was contemplating if it was better to go for a good article nomination before FAC. And as tintin points out, we do have a few good copyeditors. Perhaps our use of Endlish is not upto the mark
 * I soo agree. :)) ;-) -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph06:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Ladakh history
Hey Dwaipayanc, de-personalisation was really effective, and the history section at Ladakh is much more trimmed now (probably not enough though.) Do you have any suggestions about how to trim the geography section? deeptrivia (talk) 04:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I made a map of the region, which was essential because there are so many geographical entities in the region. I'll do a major copyedit soon. deeptrivia (talk) 14:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Novels WikiProject Newsletter June 2006
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Thanks
Hi Dwaipayanc, Sorry for being so late in thanking you for your support on my RFA. Please let me know if you need help with anything. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 05:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Ray
Do u want to do the peer review sometime soon?--ppm 19:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd rather wait, cause I'll need you to bring in enough reviewers. July is fine--ppm 18:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW - Independence Day (India)
You voted for Independence Day (India), this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 06:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I hope you don't forget to log in on June 26th
Kolkata will be on mainpage. Congratulations! Rama&#39;s Arrow 05:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Woo-hoo!!! Well done Dwaipayan, great to see Kolkata on the Main page!  Hope studies are well -- Samir   धर्म 13:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

My ER
Hi Dwaipayan, I just wanted to thank you for your wonderful comments on my editor review. I feel you're right about the exam blues part, and I have come to realize that editing Wikipedia during breaks between editing is the best policy. Cheers and thanks again!-- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91(review me!) 20:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

exam?
Hey, where have you been? (or is it that I don't watch the pages you edit these days?). Anyway, how was your exam? --Ragib 00:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems like you have gone on an extended wiki-break. The Kochi article is awaiting your final reviews before going to FAC. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph10:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey! I see you are back and wikiing. Though I'm a couple of 1000 kilometers away from Kolkata, I see you still heard my call. ;) -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph

Novels WikiProject Newsletter July 2006
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Kaliprasanna Singha
Thsnks for ur message. However, I find that the topic I created "Kaliprasanna Singha" is not pointing out to Wikipedia on google search. Could u help on this?

Biswa roop 14:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Peer review for Myanmar
Hello, I have begun a peer review for Myanmar. Please express your opinions at Peer review/Myanmar. Thank you. Hintha 21:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

INCOTW - AIDS in India
You voted for AIDS in India, this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. - Ganeshk  ( talk ) 00:49, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Mujib FAC
Hi - do check out Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's FAC. This Fire Burns.....Always  19:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Ray
Are you back? Whenever you are, let me know, and we can start a peer review.--ppm 03:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

bn
Dwaipaywan, if you are coming back on the 15th, please check out bn wiki too. In your absense, we've gone past 3000 articles ... --Ragib 07:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

hi
hi.. got ur message.. sorry but i am on vacations.. so dont have really lot of time to visit wikipedia.. takecare iquadri 22:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Hi
I got Nichalp and Sundar to copyedit the Kochi article. So its in quite good shape now. The lead section needs a rewrite. I plan to work on it this week, and hopefully get it into FAC by the latter part of the week. How did your vaccation go? Btw, my review of Darjeeling was more of a joke, actually – I just shot back all the suggestions you threw at me, lol. -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph15:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I was reading the lead section of the Kolkata article. What amazed me was that I could easily replace Kolkata there with Kochi, and it would fit absolutely perfectly. Aint it amazing how two states (West Bengal and Kerala) so far apart can share so many striking similarities? ;-) -- thunderboltza.k.a.D e epu Joseph09:01, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

pic
The pic situation for Ray is pretty bad. I'm not sure to solve this situation.--ppm 04:21, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * If you have an idea abt the template, pls feel free to implement it.--ppm 22:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe ony a few films should be in the template, with a link to "Filmography of Satyajit Ray". I am damned if I know which of these marvelous films to select, and which to leave out, so I'll let you make the hard decision :)--ppm 18:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Go ahead and put in the template, let's see what happens. thanks--ppm 17:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The template looks all fine to me. Btw, I'll be working on the "middle period" for a while, so if you have any ideas abt other parts, just go ahead. thanks.--ppm 19:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah there is a bunch of irrelevant stuff there. I was just trying to fix the outline. Move stuff as u feel fit.--ppm 20:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Help! Linkspam by User:203.199.60.3
Hi,

Can you please revert all linkspams added by User:203.199.60.3 (see his contribs). I am unable to do it as the net is painfully slow (and practically down) and every page takes nearly 3~4 minutes to load. Also, please leave him a message asking him to stop. Thanks, &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 11:45, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. The internet during daytime is painfully slow nowadays. &mdash; Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

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HI
Great to have you back. I'm fine too. I was retracting my name from any/all groups I've joined here, coz I wasn't really active there nor liked the way they worked. Not just history, but politics, India, Esperanza, Concordia, all that stuff. If I haven't, and the group doesn't interact so regularly as a group, I don't quite see the point of it. This Fire Burns Always  18:33, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Castes and Tribes of the Punjab
Hi. I am asking your opinion on this festering dispute that has developed between myself and Satbir Singh since the past few days.

The facts of the matter are like this:

I created a template called Castes and Tribes of the Punjab with a view to studying the caste and tribal groups that exist in what was the ancient Punjab region (Punjab (Pakistan), Punjab (India), Haryana and Himachal Pradesh). My intention, unlike any Ibbetsons, Todds or Cunninghams was to study these groups from a purely anthropological perspective sans any controversy so that people visiting this portal would get to know about the huge mosaic that my province (I am a Punjabi) is.

I started with a few groups. But soon enough the groups began to increase. For the sake of brevity, I grouped them under Categories. As the template evolved, I learnt not to name any category speculatively.

The final categories were:

Brahmin groups. Dalit groups. Jat clans. Khatris and other groups. Rajput clans. Shaikhs and other groups. Tarkhans and other groups. Others (groups to which i could not attribute any specific status). In the last (Others), I also included groups such as Kamboj, Khasa, Ahir and Gujjar. However, Satbir Singh separated them and bunched them under a new category called "Surviving Ancient Kshatriya Tribes".

Since that day, a revert war has been on between the two of us. According to Satbir, these groups such as the Ahirs (the ancient Abhiras), the Gujjars (Gurjaras), the Khas (the Khasas), the Kamboj (Kambojas) and Yadav (Yadavas) are ancient Kshatriya tribes mentioned in a number of ancient Sanskrit texts.

My own personal opinion is that all this is true. However, some points must be noted:

The Varna System is a topic subject to a lot of controversy and dispute. I have been noticing this in recent weeks. Pages such as Khatri, Rajput, Kayastha and Bhumihar have been vandalised because many people don't agree with the Varna status of these groups. If the Ahirs, the Gujjars, the Khasaa, the Kambojas and the Yadavas are Kshatriya groups, then so are the Rajputs, Jats, Khatris, Tarkhans et al. I did not create a category entitled "Kshatriya groups" in the first place because I knew I was treading on soft ground. All the above mentioned castes claim Kshatriya status. But we all know, how disputable these claims are. The rigmarole that is the Varna System is known to us all. For example, the Jats, who in the Vedic and Mythological periods were workers should be placed in the Shudra Category under the Varna System. But many Jats clans consider themselves the equal and perhaps the superior of Rajputs as adhrents of Kshatriya Dharma. My own caste, the Khatris and related groups such as Aroras claim Kshatriya status. But we have seen on the Khatri page as to what became of that claim. Ahirs, Gujjars and Yadavs are considered to be OBCs in most Indian states inspite of their being the descendants of ancient Abhiras, Gurjaras and Yadus. There is a controversy raging on the Yadav page presently if I am not wrong, on the status of the caste. Taking all these points into consideration and being aware of the fact that there are users (say Sanjay Mohan and Holywarrior, who have caused great disputes on various caste pages, I proposed categories such as "Kambojs and related groups" (Kamboj, Kamboja, Kamboh and Khasa) and "Gujjars and realted groups" (Ahirs, Gujjars, Dhangars and Bakarwals). But Satbir Singh and another user named Sze cavalry01 objected to it. They returned to "Ancient Kshatriya Tribes". I did a little compromise by making it "Ancient Warrior Tribes", which I later realised would also be POV. Therefore, I changed it to just "Ancient Tribes" - A completely unspeculative term.

However, Satbir Singh does not agree. He calls it a "gross suppression of known historical facts", "a crime against history" and "a political agenda" and has termed me a "Vandal". I have put forward my points. But both of us are yet to agree.

I have fighting a revert war with him for almost a week now. Have a look at the template's history page and Satbir Singh's talk page to get a complete idea of the whole fracas.

This fight has become downright silly. I surely don't expect myself to spend my time, money and energy on such a silly matter. And I am sure neither does the other party.

As of now, Administrator Shresth has protected the page on my request. He has also asked that the dispute be discussed on the talk page of the template and a consensus be reached. Yourself and anybody else you know who has an interest in the Punjab, please come and express your opinion on the talk page. Even if the Punjab is not an area of interest for you, This is still an NPOV dispute. So please express your thoughts. Regards. Rajatjghai 21:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Dwaipayan!
Hi Dwaipayan, good to hear from you! Rotations are now over -- I finished my residency in June! Working on a fellowship in ERCP. I saw Subroto Mukerjee that you made, is it up for DYK? What are you rotating on now? -- Samir   धर्म  09:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Fellowship is for a year. Last went up north a couple of weeks ago, but I'm finding it too tiring now.  In May, I think I was on call 22 days out of 31 and then I realized that it was too difficult.  I keep on getting these calls and e-mails saying there are people with GI hemorrhage in remote areas of the province, and the equipment to scope them, but no specialist and no hospital bed in the province to take the patient.  I feel bad not going.  What are you doing for your vacation? -- Samir    धर्म  09:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Good to see you back! Hope Greece was fun!  Have to sleep now, foolishly went out late tonight with friends and I have to lead weekend rounds at 8 AM tomorrow (it's 5:30 already).  Bye -- Samir    धर्म  09:28, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your comments
I'll work on them. Could you strike out those objections you raised and are now addressed?--Babub→ Talk 10:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've addressed all your concerns. If you have anymore, do list them. Thanks.--Babub→ Talk 14:43, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Reg the link, the site is under maintanence as per the main page http://www.sringerisharadapeetham.org/ So I removed the reference, I'll put it back when the site is running.--Babub→ Talk 08:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, only Sanandana was called and was thus given the name Padmapada. Also, thanks for copy-editing. I'll also follow up on it asap. --Babub→ Talk 13:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

DYK!
A great article! Too bad you couldn't find an old snap from an album; would have used it as the picture on DYK! Take care -- Samir   धर्म  18:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:IndPilots01.jpg
Image:IndPilots01.jpg seems to have incorrect copyright information. I think that the image tag it actually needs is PD-India - unless you are claiming GFDL for the addition of the red circles? GFDL isn't a good license to release photos under, as it means that anyone wanting to print (e.g. in a short booklet or leaflet) needs to include the full text of the GFDL! Unfortunately the license is really designed for computer manuals, not photographs... if you released your edits as PD or Creative Commons that would make reproduction easier. You also need to make the copyright status clearer - "taken in the 1930s" doesn't mean that something's public domain in India. Ideally, you specifically need to show that the photograph was published prior to January 1, 1946. There is, unfortunately, a difference! (In a different copyright jurisdiction, I have found instances of 1890s photographs which were first published in the 1970s, which is annoying because it means they are not public domain even after all that time!) At any rate, a less cryptic message than "The photo is in Public Domain in India, as it is from 1930s" is necessary - one that quotes the law that makes it public domain would be ideal. A lot of "public domain" images on Wikipedia have really weird explanations as to why they are PD that turn out to be legally complete nonsense - your reasoning is correct, but using that appropriate template would be more helpful. Hope this is helpful, TheGrappler 22:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


 * That's appreciated. If nobody is actively trying to claim any copyright on it, don't try too hard to find the exact date of publication - with a web source it's often very difficult. The image obviously predates the cut-off date by some time. The problems come when some stickler keeps claiming copyright even on a photo that is really old! Thanks for your contributions, TheGrappler 05:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Maulana Azad FA drive
Yo - do check this article and its PR. Its time to pick up the bounty. This Fire Burns Always  02:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

simplified disputed areas representation
Hi Dwaipayanc, please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject India Maps Plane Mad 10:44, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Ray
What do u think about an external copyeditor? If you think its a good idea, can you possibly find some one to do it? Thanks--ppm 20:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

History of Mumbai
Yo - I urge your participation and welcome your advice for the FA drive of History of Mumbai. Please do make some time for these! This Fire Burns Always  05:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

TS and copyedits
Hi, again ! Yes, I remember your helpful comments on the TS peer review, and I've since addressed a lot of them – but it's still not ready. That peer review (started by another editor) caught me completely by surprise, as I was still so new to Wiki, still learning, and still had so much to do on the article. It may appear to be ready, but there are still important topics to cover in order to make it comprehensive. I also keep hoping Encephalon will become active again, as he had started an article on PANDAS, which I need. Also, one thing that I find distracting on FAC or Peer Review is when a nominator submits an article, and then isn't available to make the suggested improvements; the timing just isn't right for me to be able to respond to the feedback as needed. The other thing that I just shudder to think about is the inevitable vandalism that will occur – because of the coprolalia stereotypes – if that article gets too much attention. I'm not sure FA would be a good thing for TS. I'm glad you think it's worthy of consideration, and I hope to finish polishing it as soon as time allows :-)

I'll look at both of those articles as soon as I can, but I don't consider myself a copy editor or writer on par with Tony. It's much easier to spot the problems than it is to fix them, but at least I can insert some inline comments that may help. I'll get to them sometime later today. Regards, Sandy 12:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * This Fire Burns Always  is going to do a copyedit. --ppm 03:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Vinayak Damodar Savarkar
Hi - if/when you have time, please do check out this article and its PR. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always  11:06, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi - I was about to ask about about the status of Darjeeling. Sure I'll help on it, but I prefer that you log in on Monday and set up the FAC yourself. Only fitting. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always   12:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Put this up for FAC tomorrow. No major issues, so I'll copyedit it right away. Will confirm after I finish. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always   13:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not adding any such links....
I am not adding any such links....please remove this tag.

Image:Kolkatacollegestreet.jpg
My apologies if you have already been alerted about this, but I was on the College Street page and found that the above image will be deleted unless you provide some more info on it. I will remove the image tag from the article for now ('cause, well, it looks ugly), and if you have time, maybe you can add in the missing info and reinstate the pic?

Cheers, &mdash; riana_dzasta &bull; t &bull; c &bull; e  &bull; 15:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Darjeeling FAC
Hi Dwaipayanc - I've made grammar and format changes (largely merging sections and repositioning pictures - hope you don't feel the sections are too large), as well as asked for a citation on environmental degradation causing tourism decline. One question - the Bangladeshi illegal immigration problem has adversely affected the region - has it affected Darjeeling economically/politically or changed its demographics? Are there any tensions, or prospects of problems between the GNLF and Bengalis? One year ago on a visit to India, I remember reading some newspaper blurb about fringe elements (maybe even Subhash Gishing) demanding a merger of Darjeeling specifically with Bangladesh, so I think a little research is merited.

Further and importantly, I think there is a need for a section on "Flora and fauna." Darjeeling's special environment, wildlife and biodiversity merit a special section - they are the bain of its reputation, economy and culture. Environmental degradation is mentioned in multiple sections, so it needs a more detailed discussion. Please see Sikkim for an example. Also, an interesting question is how does the unique biosphere affect the people's lives and culture? Are there particular social, religious traditions commemorating the wildlife and natural phenomena?

I think you can address these points quite fast, so its a green light from me whenever you're ready. Please lemme know if I can help in anything else. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always  21:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * For a geographic closeup, I've included the map of Sikkim. If you find better alternatives or the history pic, please replace it. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always   21:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Darjeeling was a popular destination for filming, so might wanna mention some details. Rama's arrow - this Fire burns always   21:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi - how does it look? need help with anything? Rama's arrow  16:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Anything you say doc. You going for FAC rite now or wanna wait? Rama's arrow  16:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)