User talk:Dwight911

Bull Run
Hi Dwight911. I've been doing lots of work recently on the Bull Run Watershed article. I'm still accumulating data, while working simultaneously on the Bull Run River (Oregon) article. Several editors have been discussing how to make more logical sense of three overlapping articles, the two Bull Run ones and the Portland Water Bureau article. What we seem to agree on is that it would make more sense to move most of the infrastructure data from the watershed article (which is mostly not about the watershed) to the water bureau article, and to move the watershed material into the river article. The existing watershed article would then contain nothing but a redirect to the river page. The river page would contain a link to the water bureau page for people who want to know more about pipes, in-city reservoirs, wells, water treatment, and the history of the bureau, and the water bureau page would have a link to the river page. I noticed your change to the existing watershed article this morning, adding Hood River County. That caught my attention because none of the sources I've found so far say that the management unit crosses the county border. When I saw on your user page that you are a ranger up there, I thought maybe you could point me to a map showing the unit and the county borders; the ones I've found so far don't show the county borders, and looking at topo maps doesn't help much except to establish that it's a close call.

More importantly, I thought you might like to collaborate on other aspects of the river article (which will soon include the watershed info but not the water bureau info). For example, I can't get into the restricted area to take photos of the Douglas-fir forest or the river above the Bull Run bridge or the dams or anything else unless I go on one of the water bureau tours next summer. I'm hoping to eventually work the river article up to at least Good Article status and possibly Featured Article status at some point in the future. For that to happen, the article must be comprehensive, well-written, supported by reliable published sources, stable, neutral, and well-illustrated, among other things. The five major-minor streams flowing through Portland are already FA; these are Fanno Creek, Balch Creek, Columbia Slough, Johnson Creek (Willamette River), and Tryon Creek. One of the major streams, Columbia River, is FA. The two remaining streams of great significance to Portland are the Bull Run and Willamette rivers. If you can help with Bull Run, it would be great. Finetooth (talk) 19:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks much for the map. If I'm reading it correctly, it shows that small sections of the management area, including Table Mountain and Buck Peak, are in Hood River County. I'd been looking at the map published by the water bureau here and trying to match it to topo maps and U.S. Census Bureau maps. If you have photos or could take some, that would be swell. You know better than I what's representative of the watershed. I'm thinking stands of big trees, scenes from along the main stem or any of the tributaries, the Pacific Crest Trail in the watershed, either reservoir, Bull Run Lake. Anything we use will have to be uploaded to the Commons rather than just the English Wikipedia and licensed (preferably GFDL and CC-by-SA-3.0). If that doesn't make sense, I can explain. I haven't begun to look into fire protection, forest roads, or government housing (camps, buildings) in the watershed, though I'm aware of them in a general way. I have to do a subsection on the USGS river gauges, and I'll be able to find that data on-line. Any advice you'd care to give on anything would be welcome. Finetooth (talk) 05:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

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