User talk:Dwritingfreak/Archive 1

Wikipedia Ideas
Initial 15 Ideas:
 * 1) Delirium Trilogy
 * 2) Midnight in Paris (movies)
 * 3) Spraypaint Art (currently a stub)
 * 4) Jaymes Young (singer/songwriter)
 * 5) LOLO (singer/songwriter)
 * 6) Persona (either as an entire series or individual games not including 5 since it hasn't been released)
 * 7) Blue October (band)
 * 8) City and Colour (band)
 * 9) Neil Hilborn (poet)
 * 10) Fable (video game)
 * 11) Enchanted Arms (video game) Need major help though
 * 12) Flooding in Peru (currently a stub)
 * 13) Impossible Project
 * 14) Z: a Novel of Zelda Fitzgerald (nothing on it thought the TV show based off it has a page)
 * 15) Gabrielle Aplin (singer/songwriter)

Topics with Notability and Verifiability
 * 1) Neil Hilborn (poet)
 * 2) Z: A Novel of Zelda Fitzgerald
 * 3) Flooding in Peru (currently a stub)

Topic to Pitch:
 * Neil Hilborn
 * Why? He is an incredibly popular poet with poems about OCD, Bipolar disorder, and depression. He has had 2 published poetry books and videos soaring over 1 million views on Facebook. You've most likely seen his poetry, especially the one titled "Joey." Additionally, other encyclopedias have him, the Huffington Post has reported on him, and many major outlets acknowledge his poetry.
 * Other Avenues: Button Poetry (organization), contemporary poets, mental disorders and poetic acknowledgment.
 * Other pages to link to: Button Poetry, Neil's books (if a page has been started)

Preparation to create Article
Of the articles I looked at on different poets, they usually follow the pattern: life/career, then death unless they're still alive, and then a list of their poetry and other works. Something I think we should also include could be criticism/critical reception and influence. Within the life/career section, a few different articles have subsections like early life and later life which I think could help organize the article better, depending on what's available of course. I also like the articles where the lists of their works come at the very end; it lets people read a little more about the poet before giving them titles to find.

Table of Contents: *Subsection about his early life * Subsection about his " rise to fame " and then of course sources and references at the very bottom. Rkennedy20 (talk) 20:09, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Quick overview of article
 * Biography
 * Influences or maybe Themes
 * Criticisms/Critical Reception
 * List of works

Preparing to Create an Article
Michelé

I looked at Kate Tempest, also a slam poet, also with a published book. Her page had the following sections:Life and Work, Reception. Obviously this is too few headings. For someone who has won numerous awards in different areas of writing, I was surprised her page had so few. However, all the information was there, it was just lumped together. The Life and Work section was pretty thorough in terms of it's going from basically when she was born, to how she built her career. I think the portions on her younger life could have been cut, but the parts starting with her first performances forward are useful. I think the page is still missing information on some of her accomplishments. She has been nominated for awards in poetry, playwriting, and rapping, but the page does not give details about those accomplishments. A lot of the information seems to be pulled from The Guardian and similar sources. For Neil, we should go with more of a variety. I liked the way they named (and linked) the notable places we performed, and I think we should do that. But we should have more headers. For example: Early Life Slam Poetry Career Accomplishments Reception
 * information that's pertinent to his poetry career
 * no irrelevant information
 * as much info as we can include from when he began to now
 * links to competitions he competed in
 * with a subheading for current projects (Where is he now?)
 * a full list of anything he has won or been nominated for
 * information about his books
 * looking at multiple viewpoints of how people view his poetry

Additional information could include the mental illness he struggles with, some background of Button Poetry and other platforms through which he became known, and where he draws his inspiration. Mstracho (talk) 23:28, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Preperation to Create an Article-Dvogl
Looking at other poets it seems there are trends of topics. Life, Career, Works, Modern portrayals or references, and any awards that the artist has been nominated for, or won. These are very vague categories, but can be applied to Niel Hillborn. In addition, many artists have particular topics that they encapsulated. Should this be the case again, then that can be added as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DVogl (talk • contribs) 02:40, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Prep for Article - Dwritingfreak
I also did something very similar to what Michelé did. I took a look at Tyler Knott Gregson's page here on Wikipedia. His page isn't very long at all, but I found somethings interesting to add to what others had said. They note different series that he has done in the past on his Tumblr page, along with a bibliography of his works rather than just listing them. While this is great I feel as if Neil Hilborn has a bit more too him than just a few background sentences and a list of work. Typically I'm seeing a trend with other slam poets that they have a biography, poetry (details about work and also style), awards, publications, and links to other Wikipedia pages at the end. So, that said, here's my ideas for set-up:

Introduction
 * Brief intro about him and how he became known

Life
 * Details about his life before poetry (if readily available) and dealing with mental illnesses that he has been diagnosed with.
 * Separate section for mental illness perhaps? Otherwise it can all be lumped into one

Poetry
 * Details about his style and influences. Also, a section talking about the numerous amount of fiction works dealing with mental illness.

Recognition/ Reception
 * This might be a section about his Youtube/Facebook recognition along with being signed to Button Poetry. Reception would be critical reviews.

Publication
 * Poetry books along with poems in each?

Awards/ Appearances
 * I'm not sure if he's won any awards yet. If not then his poetry slam appearances could go here.
 * If he has won awards then a seperate category for apperances would be great.

The order might need to get switched around a bit.

_Dwritingfreak (talk) 04:34, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Sources that I've found--Rachel K.
The Western Carolinian has a little more background than some of the other places I've checked. This article in particular talks about his works but also includes a paragraph that has some of his background and how he go to where he is.This article also talks about his stage presence, as it involves a performance he did at Western Carolina University.
 * Lipsky, Alicja. "Last Minute Productions Presents Slam Poet Neil Hilborn." Last Minute Productions Presents Slam Poet Neil Hilborn | The Western Carolinian. The Western Carolinian, 22 Nov. 2016. Web. 08 Apr. 2017. .

The Triangle has an interview with Neil Hilborn and they discuss some of his influences for his poetry, some of his goals and techniques as a writer, and how he uses poetry as an outlet. He also talks a little bit about turning poetry into a job.
 * Laggan, Michelle. "Slam Poet Neil Hilborn Discusses His Work." The Triangle. The Triangle, 02 July 2014. Web. 08 Apr. 2017. .

Rkennedy20 (talk) 03:28, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Griffo, Megan. "Neil Hilborn, Man With OCD, Performs Heartbreaking Poem About Falling In Love, Inspires Redditors (VIDEO)." The Huffington Post. TheHuffingtonPost.com, 12 Aug. 2013. Web. 08 Apr. 2017. .
 * Sneed, Brandon. "Meet Neil Hilborn, Performer of That Viral OCD Poem." Brandon's Blog. N.p., 02 Aug. 2014. Web. 08 Apr. 2017. .

Initial Source Search
I know my section was Button/Performance, but I didn’t want to not include these other websites just because they weren’t in my section. We can still use them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/12/neil-hilborn-ocd-poem_n_3745281.html This talks about his breakout with OCD. It could be referenced in Reception because it talks about people’s reactions and connections to the poem. It can also be talked about in performance because it’s how he first became known. It also led me to the Reddit interview and the Tour he went on. Griffo, Megan. "Neil Hilborn, Man With OCD, Performs Heartbreaking Poem About Falling In Love, Inspires Redditors (VIDEO)." The Huffington Post. TheHuffingtonPost.com, 12 Aug. 2013. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1k0lqd/ocd_by_neil_hilborn_easily_the_most_onion/#bottom-comments I haven’t dug through all 800 responses, but Meil does a Q&A on here about his poems and his disorders. There’s also a similar thread with over 2,000 comments. ""OCD" by Neil Hilborn. Easily the Most Onion Chopping Thing I've Ever Experienced. - [2:52] • R/videos." Reddit. N.p., n.d. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/poet-neil-hilborn-tells-story-living-ocd-falling-163030399.html This basically corroborates what the Huffington Post says. Kalinauskas, Nadine. "Poet Neil Hilborn Tells His Story about Living with OCD, Falling in Love." Yahoo! News. Yahoo!, 13 Aug. 2013. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

https://grimshawwrites.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/thats-not-poetry-a-response-to-the-response-to-the-response-to-neil-hilborn/ This can be used for reception. Most reception just talks about the content of the poem, but this one debates with another response to the poem about whether or not this is poetry. Grimshaw, James. "'That's Not Poetry': A Response to the Response to the Response to Neil Hilborn." Right or Wrong, This Is the Road and We Are On It. Wordpress.com, 15 Aug. 2013. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

http://brandonsneed.com/neil-hilborns-spoken-word-performance-of-ocd-is-one-of-the-most-powerful-things-ive-ever-seen-which-is-probably-why-it-went-viral-who-is-this-guy-and-where-did-that-poem-come-from-2/ A neater version of the Reddit Q&A Sneed, Brandon. "Meet Neil Hilborn, Performer of That Viral OCD Poem." Brandon's Blog. N.p., 02 Aug. 2014. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

http://www.dailynebraskan.com/arts_and_entertainment/visiting-slam-poet-neil-hilborn-speaks-of-passion-for-spoken/article_4827128e-ac7e-11e6-9c2c-efc6fba66629.html This one talks about his performing in more recent years. He also talks about his book and his origin as a writer. Lim, Abbey. "Visiting Slam Poet Neil Hilborn Speaks of Passion for Spoken Word." Daily Nebraskan. N.p., 17 Nov. 2016. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

http://www.uatrav.com/the_companion/article_2c4436c2-5330-11e4-b078-001a4bcf6878.html Neil visits a campus and talks about his writing past and present. Neil Hilborn Brings Slam Poetry to Campus Leigha Van Sickle Uatrav.com | 0 comments. "Neil Hilborn Brings Slam Poetry to Campus." The Arkansas Traveler. N.p., n.d. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

Mstracho (talk) 21:48, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

On the background of Neil Hilborn
Information on this particular topic is rather scant. In addition I've removed any repeating articles from the list. Here are the new sources I have.

https://www.macalester.edu/academics/english/about/words/october10.pdf

Waverley. Glasgow: Waverley Steam Navigation, 1976. The Waverly. Macalester College. Web. 9 Apr. 2017.

This shows both Neil is an active and traveling poet, but also refers to where it was he was educated.

http://www.bhsu.edu/AboutBHSU/CampusCalendar/tabid/89/ctl/Details/Mid/5118/ItemID/15788/Default.aspx?SkinSrc=%5BG%5DSkins/BHSUr_UCfull/UCr_3-Column

"The Campus Activities Board Presents Neil Hilborn." Black Hills State University. N.p., n.d. Web. 09 Apr. 2017.

Much the same as before, but gives some additional information on the background of Neil's work — Preceding unsigned comment added by DVogl (talk • contribs) 03:31, 10 April 2017 (UTC) <!-DVogl (talk) 03:42, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Our Numbered Days
This one is the goodreads page for the book which can also be used as reception. While it's not a direct analysis of the book by a scholar, it is a page where fans have analyzed and praised the book.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24471629-our-numbered-days

Here is a review of the book written in the National Book Review Month by Arianna Miller. This seems like a very thorough analysis, though bias might be a bit of concern since the author does seem to like his poetry, though I doubt it will affect our use of it much.

http://narmo.milne-library.org/our-numbered-days/

Additionally, I have a copy of the analysis of OCD by Hilborn. It has a ton of great information, is a scholarly article, and I think will be of great use to us. I have a PDF format that I can email to everyone if they would li.e. Our guest lecturer at the end of class showed me how to request it and it is now in my possession online. I am adding this to my section because it is A) about one of the poems in the book, and B) because it does mention Our Numbered Days and his other publishes chapbooks in the article.

Kila van der Starre (2015) How Viral Poems are Annotated, Performance Research, 20:6, 58-64, DOI: 10.1080/13528165.2015.1111051

Finally, if someone can find an article stating that OCD hold the record for the most viewed slam poem on Youtube that would be wonderful. I find descriptions with that information but never full articles. -Dwritingfreak (talk) 03:54, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Initial Source Search
So I was tasked with looking for sources on works inspired by him. I found one thing that someone had posted on Tumblr, so I'm not including that. HOWEVER, I did find this nifty article from Forbes that mentions him as an example of millenials using social media for social good.

Rohampton, Jimmy. "How Can Millennials Turn Their Social Media Influence Into Social Good?" Forbes. Forbes Magazine, 29 Sept. 2016. Web. 10 Apr. 2017. .

This article is technically covering a performance he did at a college (this is the school's newpaper, like our Torch), but it has some background info on him like college and stuff.

Carl, Molly. "Neil Hilborn Delivers Inspiration." The Snapper: Millersville University. Millersville University, 18 Nov. 2014. Web. 10 Apr. 2017. .

As we continue to research and whatnot, I'll keep my eyes peeled for more evidence of his influence on others.

Kdiepholz (talk) 05:19, 10 April 2017 (UTC)