User talk:Dylan620/Archive4

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Last one. :) &mdash; La Pianista  (T•C•S) 00:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks
Merry Christmass to you too Jason Rees (talk) 02:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

re: question
I link(ed) to those users in my sig because they got blocked, but they were good users (except for the fact that they're indef-blocked) and I linked to them so they wouldn't be forgotten (hence the words "never forget" that linked to them). If you've seen any of my recent posts, however, you'll see that I have discontinued my links to CheeseDreams and Account created [...] Reference Desk. I have continued linking to -Ril- because he shared an interest with me: He got banned for having his signature set to, which had links to his name. Well, that's actually just one of many reasons he got blocked... But anyway, I also had that signature, but someone told me to stop and pointed at -ril- as an example. I stopped immediately. -ril-, on the other hand, didn't. He kept on going for a while, then (when he was told to stop for like the 50th time) he stopped - but changed his signature to read "Victim of signature fascism." I admired this boldness, and his interest in the same signature as me, and so I link to him still today. flaminglawyerc 02:49, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes
Yes... it does. [/robot like]. Chubb enna  itor  13:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * My graah page. Chubb  enna  itor  13:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: I know what I would like my next lesson to be
Sure, that sounds like a good lesson. Let me know when you want to get started and I'll type up some lessons.

Also, I left a question at the 2001 AHS's timeline A-class review. –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 14:02, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly. After that, would you like to work on username violations and WP:UAA? –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 14:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say so. Confusing usernames are no longer a violation, per WP:U. However, when an account is being used only for vandalism, and it has a confusing username, it becomes clear their intention isn't to help improve Wikipedia. –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 14:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Signature
since my old signature gave me trouble, here it my new one with a translation! (It is in Hindi) -- क्षेम्य Tranquility 20:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)--

See This :)
Look what I found:) --67.87.69.243 (talk) 00:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * That was me -- क्षेम्य Tranquility 23:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas


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Re: Blocking lesson
Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I'll respond within the next day or so. –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 02:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, take a look at this and let me know what you think. –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 18:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll examine your edit count soon. Also, yeah, Grawp has been vandalizing for years now; there's not much to do about it, except revert the vandalism and block the specific account. –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 20:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

From Santa to Dylan620
Dear Dylan620, the user Rogerchocodiles fooled you in the 'new messages bar'. So Santa Claus, me, gave you this little present... Open it up... Love from Santa!

 SANTA IS HERE  13:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
 Hello Dylan620! I just wanted to wish you and your family a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Again, merry Christmas! Ashbey 00:58, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

If you don't celebrate Christmas, then happy holidays!

Merry Christmas


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Re: Hey Julian
Yeah, it is a shame that after all these months of planning and waiting, it's over in just hours. Hopefully you at least got some nice presents. :) Merry Christmas and Happy New Years, –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 01:37, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

The truth from many of members of Wikipedia
Hello Dylan, My name is Mitch. I am friends with a lot of people you have been in contact with (Durova, Juliancolton, PeterSymonds). I really hate to tell you this, but even though it may seem they are interested in having you around, they have come to me with some complaints. I want you to listen to me, because this is important and you must understand some problems that you are having. I have noticed that you have had a major problem thinking that Wikipedia is like a MySpace or Facebook. Per our policies, seen at WP:NOT, that's not what we are. I understand that you are the social, chat-wanting kind, but at least do the favor and help expand articles. What are your interests? Usually people work on what interest them. For example, my interests are the highways in the Northeast. I write on articles about it all the time. Your edit count for User talk pages is 3 times the amount of actual article-space work. Please, from all of us, try to work on some articles. This will help you gain experience and help you on your way to WP:ADMINship.

I understand that you are the social kind, but that's not what Wikipedia is. I am regretful to say this, but unless you do what Wikipedia is more or less for, you're not going to be an administrator anytime soon. Please, all of us respect you, but help us out, not bother everybody :). Thanks for your patience, Dylan. Yours truly, Mitch 32 ( Go Syracuse ) 15:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for understanding Dylan. It would help us a lot if you could get started on Wikipedia articles once again. If you want to help me with my highway articles, you're free to do so. :) - Mitch 32 ( Go Syracuse ) 15:37, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Newsletter
Hey Dylan. Usually we talk about the newsletter on IRC (since it doesn't require too much input). User:Jason Rees said he'd be willing to do the newsletter, so maybe talk with him? Or you could come onto IRC. BTW, how come you seem so focused on the dab pages? No one really looks at them. The same goes with the timelines, which don't really take that much effort to make. Have you considered working on a storm/season article? They are looked at much more often, and they require more research (meaning more useful). ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Dabs are disambiguation pages (like the one you wanted to do for Virginia). I'm just saying that writing is only half the battle. Odile was merged because it had too little content. Working on existing articles (such as a landfalling storm) can give you the experience both in writing and in doing research. Timelines don't give that, as it requires little research, and the prose is minimal. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:23, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I know. I'm just saying, the project doesn't need more work on dabs/timelines. Cheers. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 18:55, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Dylan - You could help do the newsletter with me if you wish. Its going to be a double issue this month as no could get it together in time last month Jason Rees (talk) 17:43, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be good to see you around a bit more in helping WPTC out - Also all id say about my birthday is its in late september. Also dont forget weve got to deal with the end of the NHEM TC year and the start of the SHEM TC seasons within this newsletterJason Rees (talk) 18:06, 26 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Good Question - Ive got no idea who should be the MOTM i asked Hink for some advice earlier and he said someone who hasnt been done in the last 12 months. and of course we can not be the MOTM as we are doing the newsletter Jason Rees (talk) 21:22, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Season's Greetings!
 To Dylan620, Thanks for the message. I hope you had a great Christmas, are having a great Boxing day and will have a fantastic new year!

 Oliver Fury, Esq. message  •  contributions  17:55, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * What! No Boxing Day! I think it's only the Commonwealth that 'celebrate' it- just a day after Christmas Day. Never mind!  Oliver Fury, Esq. message  •  contributions  17:47, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of WikiProject Hanna-Barbera
WikiProject Hanna-Barbera, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Hanna-Barbera and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of WikiProject Hanna-Barbera during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 20:03, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Concern
You recently said that Suntag's response about blocking was "superb". However, he mentioned that he would unblock a block that he made. This is normally frowned upon. It even states "Requests for unblocks should be reviewed by administrators other than the one who administered the block." on WP:UNBLOCK. Your statement seems to convey a direct contradiction to this is acceptable. Although in certain circumstances it may be, there is no nuance in the answer to suggest this. I feel that you should edit your comment so it does not seem as if you are saying that he is agreeing with wikipedia policy, when he is most certaintly 100% opposite of what the policy says. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Which areas? He has a handful of DYK and a couple articles in dispute. He has been grilled on various deletion review practices. There is no real need for the tools, unless you see one? If he wasn't given rollback ability, why give him adminship? Ottava Rima (talk) 20:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "On second thought, I'm entitled to my own opinion" :) Ottava Rima (talk) 21:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Aspergers
That I do...have had it since I was little, though they didn't officially diagnose me with it until I was in my 20s. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • December 26, 2008 @ 23:46
 * Ah neat! :) There are lots of Aspies here on Wikipedia.  Glad to meet a fellow one.  As for the orange box...it might be a technical goof (cause I got one when you sent your message).  If it keeps up, you can always ask on ANI in case it is a technical problem that they need to fix.  Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • December 27, 2008 @ 00:17
 * Sometimes they are like that, little fleating technical goofs. Thanks and I will try and get over to your WP and work on some articles.  I have been kinda lazy on both sides (Hurricanes and TV/Radio) the past week or two.  Mostly just been helping out on ANI and AN, even though I am not an admin, I help out when I can.  Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • December 27, 2008 @ 00:26

Typhoon Virginia
Looks good. I added a hurricane disambig, which should be included at the bottom of dab pages. –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 00:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, well, better late then never! –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 00:19, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

ColourWolf
CW is defacto banned, so go ahead. He's a very disruptive long term abuser. For me, you can add him to WP:LTA too.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 15:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

RE:Barnstar
Thank you...Thank you...Thank you...Thank you...Thank you...Thank you... for the barnstar Dylan.... Never had one.. and I thought I never will... but you are a brilliant contributor to wikipedia... and I think you would make a great admin. User:Itfc+canes=me Talk  Sign me! Its good to be back! 12:20, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * When you think your ready I will happily nominate you for AFD. User:Itfc+canes=me Talk  Sign me! Its good to be back! 13:32, 28 December 2008 (UTC)



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User:Itfc+canes=me Talk  Sign me! Its good to be back! 13:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Lol.. I have added my self to Jacks ABs and I did mean RFA.... what user would you however nominate for AFD?? User:Itfc+canes=me Talk  Sign me! Its good to be back! 13:42, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Ty for the hug!!... but the AFD thing was a joke..... so don't bite my head off with adminness!!!



Whack!

User:Itfc+canes=me Talk  Sign me! Its good to be back! 13:48, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: User:Dylan620/School
Alright, I'll type up some more tonight. Just of note, I'm intentionally waiting a few days between lessons so you get a chance to 'digest' the information. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  21:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooh, ok. I'll get right on that. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  21:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think this would be a good time to take a break from formal admin coaching and work on the issues some editors listed below. This will give you more time to work on articles and detach from the userspace. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:38, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Another view on your contributions
Hello Dylan, my name is Matthew and like Mitch above, I have some concerns over your contributions. Now I'm not very familiar with who you are, as we've never really run into each other. However, several editors have mentioned some of your editing patterns, and I took at look at this. I'm not sure if you've seen or heard of this tool before, but it's able to calculate any Wikipedians edits.

While looking at your statistics, I'm a little worried that you may be the forum type, one who enjoys chatting and talking with other editors. Now, let me remind you that talking with other editors is perfectly normal and fine. We, as a community writing an encyclopedia need to communicate, which we do through talk pages. However, I'm worried you might be over-doing it. As of this post, almost 20% of your total edits are to talk pages, while about 6% of your edits are to mainspace articles.

As we are here to build the encyclopedia, we should be focusing our edits on articles, and less on chatting. I recommend you continue to grow and build on your article work. I see you often try to work with Juliancolton on storm articles, so keep with that, or if it's not working, keep looking. Everyone has their niche on Wikipedia. Mine happens to be with professional wrestling, sports, and television articles. As Mitch said above, his is with highway and road articles, while Julian's is with storm articles.

Also, another things I noticed in the link was that close to 30% of your edits are to your userpage. That's not very good. Having a good looking userpage is nice to have, but making 30% of your total edits there, and only 6% to articles...is just not great. Wikipedia is not a myspace and although it is not your intention, I assume, it seems you may be treating it as one. So take my earlier advice, and try to make more edits to articles and less to your userpage.

And finally, I see that you have a dream of becoming an administrator here on Wikipedia. It's a lot of hard work, which I'm sure you know. I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but if you tried to have an RfA within the next 5-8 months, you would fail. I advice you to continue working with Julian learning things about Wikipedia's policies, and the way things run. User:Balloonman has a page called "act like an admin" where he wrote about advising those who wish to be an administrator, to begin acting like one early on. There are also other essays you should read about RfA, such as How to pass an RfA.

So continue with your adoption, write or edit some articles, and stay away from userspace as much as possible. Remember that being an administrator is not as easy as it may seem, and it's going to take you some time to become fully prepared. If you have any questions or ever need any advice, feel free to ask me on my talk page, or e-mail me if it's private. Thanks for listening!  aye matthew  @ 16:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It's nice that people are trying to help. Now, I have a problem that I'd like you to help me with. I would enjoy working on tropical cyclone season timelines as my main article space focus. However, I have been advised by administrator and friendly acquaintance that timelines offer little exercise in prose and research. But my argument for doing timelines is that they are easy for me to do (see Timeline of the 2001 Atlantic hurricane season, a TC season timeline I created), and they offer me a chance at a certain type of featured content. What should I do? Should I work on TC season timelines, like I desired, or should I move on to storm or season articles? See this thread on my talk page (here) for more information.


 * Also, I do plan on taking your advice. I'm becoming an EfD frequent, so it'll be hard to back away from there, but aside from that; no more extreme userspacing. Of course, I will still be partaking in RfA's, as well as this thread on WT:RFA in which I am currently involved, but you and Mitch are both right; I need to do a lot less foruming, and begin focusing more on the article space. -- Dylan 620  Contribs Sign! 17:41, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * As for the situation, I agree with Hink. They don't require must work, and you shouldn't be shopping for awards. It seems you are only trying to do these articles to get awards for getting Featured lists. They are not exactly awards, they are just an article rating. I'd suggest finding an article that you can work on instead of a list. Do a few articles and get used to writing, then work on some lists if you want. I'm glad you're taking my advise, and I wish you must luck with that.  aye matthew  @ 17:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. -- Dylan 620  Contribs Sign! 18:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

And another view... Dylan, your comment on the ANI regarding Betacommand is not helpful. And, having looked through your contribs, it seems to be part of a pattern involving a little too much interest in making sure that people know they're banned or blocked. Trust me, when someone is actually banned (or blocked), they know about it. There's not a lot of need for you to be going around, getting users added to the banned list, etc. Please stop doing it.

I would echo iMatthew's suggestion above: please stay away from anything other than mainspace articles and their associated talkpages for a while. I respect that you are trying to contribute, but Wikipedia is one of those places where you need to learn a lot about the behind-the-scenes stuff before you can contribute positively in those areas. // roux  <span style="border:1px solid #6D351A;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">  19:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Roux, Matthew, I know I'm supposed to contribute to the mainspace for a while, but that doesn't mean I'm forbidden to edit any other namespace, does it? I need to ease into this, rather than beginning abruptly. -- Dylan 620  Contribs Sign! 19:39, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Dylan, you can't be 'forbidden' except by community consensus or ArbCom decree. I think, however, that 'beginning abruptly' is precisely what you need to do; look up the term cold turkey. Just go write articles.
 * I understand that you want to be an admin one day, so let me be incredibly blunt: you will never pass an RFA unless there is a massive shift in a) your understanding of policy, b) your application of policy (specifically I'm thinking about your focus on blocked/banned users), and c) your editing distribution. I am not saying this to be mean or rude, I'm saying this because it's what you need to hear. People who become admins are generally those who have shown their dedication to the goals of the proejct--that means, building an encyclopedia. Sure, everyone contributes a bit differently, but when only 6% of your edits are actually building articles, that is a huge, huge red flag, and you will absolutely not pass an RFA with that. Beyond that, you need to listen more, and talk less; by all means read boards like AN and ANI and so on, but hold back from contributing for now. Pay attention to what people are saying and why they are saying it. When they quote policy, go read the policy--and then, after you've read it, think about the message of the policy or guideline, and not just the specific words. Then think about why that does or does not fit the argument at hand. We all know you mean well.. but you need to bear in mind the reason we're actually here. // roux  <span style="border:1px solid #355E3B;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">  20:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * A two-week editing break it is. It may be longer or shorter, depending on how long it takes for me to read and comprehend Wikipedia's policies. When I return from the break, I'll try my hardest to get back to article work, fast and intense. -- Dylan 620  Contribs Sign! 21:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoa. Nobody is telling you to stop editing. I am saying--and I think others agree--that you need to stop editing anywhere other than mainspace. // roux  <span style="border:1px solid #082567;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">  23:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I know. This is completely voluntary. It's for my own good. I will most certainly return. At the very longest, it should take a month. It's just a break to study Wiki policy. -- Dylan 620  Contribs Sign! 23:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Happy New Year!!!
Thanks, you too! Good luck in the new year, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  02:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You too! Be safe, and good luck with the article writing! --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 05:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks and to you as well :) I am still trying to wake up from being up soooo late.  Take Care...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • January 1, 2009 @ 15:34
 * Thanks Dylan Happy New Year to you too. Jason Rees (talk) 17:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Me as an Admin?
I would love to be an admin one day, but I think I have made too many enemies as an editor and that one indef block I got awhile back probably makes me ineligible.....but if I could, I would love to give an RfA a shot. Take Care...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer •  Talk  • January 1, 2009 @ 20:43
 * I didn't think the feedback would be good, but thanks for thinking about me on RfA :) Neat userbox, thanks for creating one for me :)  Take Care...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • January 1, 2009 @ 22:29
 * You could always use it for online friends...nothing says you have to use it for offline friends. On your sig, I would change the yellow to another color, it is hard to read, otherwise it looks great.  Take Care...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • January 1, 2009 @ 22:52
 * Ah, you could probably knock a userbox out in a couple minutes. You can use this as an example and change the colors with this page.  On the sig, it looks much better :)  Take Care...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • January 2, 2009 @ 00:19

Your vote at my RFA
Hi there. I was wondering if you would reconsider your vote, or at the very least correct some of the text? Here's why:

1) I have never been even close to a community ban. If I have, I was never told of it, and nor was the community. A community ban was never proposed, nor even hinted. I'm not sure why Ryan Postlethwaite said it.

2) Six months ago was June. My dispute with G2bambino was Sept/Oct.

3) The comment to Majorly was made on IRC, not on-wiki, and it was in response to some rather unpleasant private messages he was sending me.

By all means, you have every right to oppose, and this is the last I'll say on the matter. It's just not reasonable to oppose when most of your oppose is based on things that didn't happen, or getting things wrong. Again though, keep your vote up or not, as your conscience dictates. // roux  <span style="border:1px solid #00009C;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">  01:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry Roux, but even if I were to stop citing Ryan Postlethwaite and Majorly altogether, my strong oppose would stand; the diffs provided by Ecoleetage and LeaveSleaves show me that you clearly aren't ready. This is coupled with all the recent drama you've undergone. Also, I feel like this is something you need to know, so I'll be bold and blunt; I've done a little research, and although at least one RfA has passed with less support, the general cutoff is 75% support; Roux, if your RfA was to pass by those standards, you would need 91 more support !votes without an oppose in order to pass. If I were you, I would consider withdrawal. --  Dylan 620  ( Contribs  ·  Sign! ) 03:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no problem with your oppose standing. My problem is that you are opposing based on things that haven't happened. // roux  <span style="border:1px solid #614051;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">  03:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll discuss it at the discussion section of the RfA. --  Dylan 620  ( Contribs  ·  Sign! ) 11:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * My messages weren't at all unpleasant. Here they are:

<Majorly> how different is my posting that link to MZMcBride's blatant canvassing on wiki? <Roux> <Majorly> it was actually. It was posted on just one project. If he wants more votes, he should either post on every project, or none at all <Roux> <Majorly> it was also off-topic for the admin noticeboard <Majorly> it's nothing to do with English Wikipedia <Roux> <replies, telling me to go away> <Majorly> it won't affect English Wikipedia, let alone English Wikipedia admins <Roux> <replies, telling me to go away>

Roux can feel free to fill in the blanks, or give me permission to do so. I don't believe any of my messages were unpleasant.  Majorly  talk  16:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It would be helpful if the blanks were filled in, but those messages don't look unpleasant to me. But that's just me; maybe Roux has a great respect for MZMcBride. He may have thought that you were accusing him (MZMcBride) of canvassing, and that could have made Roux angry. Also, he could have been busy with something else, and was too stubborn to ask you nicely to let him finish his work. It may have also been Roux's bad temper flaring up again; I don't now if I pointed it out, but that was a major reason why I opposed his current RfA. At this point here are some things that could come in handy:
 * Ryan Postlethwaite said that Roux came close to a community ban six months ago. Does he have any proof? Any links? A link to a ban proposal of PrinceOfCanada (Roux's old name) on an old archive of AN, ANAE, or ANI would be helpful.
 * Majorly, in one of your messages to Roux, you said that MZMcBride was canvassing. Do you have any proof? (Diffs?)
 * --  Dylan 620  ( Contribs  ·  Sign! ) 17:35, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * .  Majorly  talk  18:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I found it unpleasant; you were engaging in annoying behaviour because people wouldn't let you remove MZM's post from AN (or ANI, wherever it was). You were being provocative and unpleasant, and I wasn't in any mood to listen to your unpleasant behaviour; having seen how you were already acting I had zero interest in listening to you continue. I found your messages unpleasant, as i have said, and I asked you to go away. In any case, it's rather orthogonal to the main point, which is: 1) it was on IRC, not onwiki, and therefore not a valid reason for opposing; 2) I wasn't even involved in your spat, I was just commenting on your silly behaviour by coming on IRC to canvass to all and sundry in retaliation for not being allowed to remove the post. You can oppose me, fine, that's your right. But opposing me for things that are explicitly not related to onwiki, when the general community norm is that offwiki==offwiki? Not cool. // roux  <span style="border:1px solid #614051;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">  21:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, thanks for making me oppose even more strongly. If you found my mild-mannered conversation with you "unpleasant" I don't think you'll cope with adminship where there are some real nutters out there to deal with.  Majorly  talk  22:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Listen, Roux; I must agree with Majorly. If you're calling Majorly a nutter, check out these guys. I call them part of the WP:LOBU Hall of "Fame" (Infamy):
 * : This guy abused an administrator's trust; once he was unblocked, he went right back to the same problems that got him blocked in the first place, including rampant reverts, deletion noms, and vandalism.
 * : This guy's disruption was so great, that because of him, some people in the Houston area now need to log on in order to edit Wikipedia. Also see WP:LTA/MMB.
 * : Jimbo himself banned this guy. He (Primetime) is one of the worst sockpuppeteers I have ever seen, acquiring over 300 confirmed/suspected socks into his sock farm. What's worse is that Primetime made an incredibly huge amount of copyvios, which could have, at any point, forced WMF to close down. Also see WP:'T.
 * : This guy, along with his hordes of unmarked socks, have performed so much page move vandalism that some pages, such as User:La Pianista, are move-protected. This sock farm has also produced many, many personal attacks, one of which I reverted myself. Grawp uses abusive proxies, so there's pretty much nothing we can do. Any one of us could be his next victim.
 * : And you thought regular POV pushing was bad: this guy's taken it to such an extreme magnitude, his sneaky POV vandalism via many sock/meatpuppets has driven away fantastic editors by causing long-term damage to articles. See WP:Long term abuse/HeadleyDown for more info.
 * : The very username of this editor makes you want to block him indef. What's worse... sockpuppetry and his best-known form vandalism – adding the hammer and sickle to many, many random articles.
 * Sad but true: these are the type of people you will have to deal with as an administrator. If you're having trouble dealing with people who mean no harm, try dealing with people who mean serious harm, like the above six vandals. P.S.: Majorly, you should try running for administrator again. I'd strongly support you. --  Dylan 620  ( Contribs  ·  Sign! ) 23:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Idea!
Dear Dylan,

I go by the psuedonym NuclearWarfare. We haven't interacted much, but I have talked to some of the people you've contacted often (PeterSymonds, JulianColton). About a week ago, Mitchazenia (and I see that iMatthew and roux did so later too) posted a friendly note on your talk page about how you seem to have made Wikipedia out to be a Myspace. I feel that I just have to echo him here. I've glanced through your contributions for the past month or so, and I'm finding too many examples of MySpacing and trying to level-up to become an administrator.

I realize that you are very excited about Wikipedia and that's certainly a good thing. But what's not so good is the fact that so few of your edits have been to mainspace. So I have a challenge for you. For the next two weeks, every time you make a non-mainspace edit (whether to RfA, Userspace, or even a talk page), immediately follow it up with two meaningful edits to an article. Try to add at least once sentence or a new citation at minimum. I realize this may be a challenge for you, but it is for your own good. I have talked it over with several users who I have seen that you respect, and everyone, including Julian, thinks that this would be a good idea for you. Can you please agree to this restriction? Users have been sanctioned before for being too MySpacey, and I would hate to see that happen to you.

Sincerely, NuclearWarfare. 00:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... would reverting vandalism count? I will agree to the restriction effective tomorrow morning, but it's just a question I'd like to ask.
 * And look, I'll even set up self-restrictions: After one violation, any administrator may block me for one hour. Two violations warrant a 3-hour block. Three violations warrant a 12-hour block. Four violations warrant a 24-hour block. Five violations warrant a 48-hour block. Six violations warrant a 72-hour block. Seven violations warrant a 96-hour block. Eight violations warrant a one-week block. Nine violations warrant a two-week block. Ten violations warrant a three-week block. Eleven violations warrant a one-month block. Twelve violations warrant a two-month block. Thirteen violations warrant a two-month block. Fourteen violations warrant a three-month block. After fifteen violations, you have my full permission to block me indef, replace my userpage with banned user, and add me to WP:LOBU. So, what do you think of these restrictions? --  Dylan 620  ( Contribs  ·  Sign! ) 00:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No, such blocks would be in complete violation of the blocking policy. Look, I don't think you're MySpacing; you edit articles fairly often, moreso than some admins. Perhaps edit articles a bit more, but I personally don't think you're a problem. Those restrictions you've come up with, however, are really over the top.  Majorly  talk  00:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No no no no no no no. That's not what I wanted at all. What I wanted was a voluntary pledge to work on articles more, and my challenge could be a general guideline to go on. There is no need for your restrictions, but if I or someone else popped up saying "look, you really should be editing articles more", then you would jump on it. Is that too much to ask? NuclearWarfare  <sup style="color:green;">contact me <sub style="color:purple;">My work  00:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Dylan, I'd like to echo the concerns from Mitch, Roux, and everyone else above about your contributions. We know that you have a lot to offer the community, which is why we're expressing our desire to help you shape up. I would like to make sure that you know that EFD will be included in your restrictions. The fact that you seem to consider yourself an EFD "regular" is worrying; EFD is supposed to be a place where editors make occasional contributions as a break from the rigors of encyclopedia building, it's certainly no place to be a regular of any kind. Good luck with your mainspace work, Glass  Cobra  15:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * So, can you try this out? I noticed that you still haven't. NuclearWarfare  <sup style="color:green;">contact me <sub style="color:purple;">My work  01:02, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Still appears not to have changed, |Article%27s%20note%20(0)|Image,%20Category,%20Template%20(0)|Project,%20Help,%20MediaWiki,%20Portal%20(134)|User%20talk%20(228)|User%20(115)|Media,%20Special%20(0)&chd=t:0.0460,0.0000,0.0000,0.2680,0.4560,0.2300,0.0000&chco=7fc97f,bbdda9,ffff99,beaed4,386cb0,fdc086,ff7777 this graph makes me a little wary. If you merely feel uncomfortable in the mainspace, you could always request adoption in that area. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro  (talk)  23:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

WPTC IRC channel
I don't know if you've heard of it, but the project has an IRC channel, which is a great place to talk about the project. Julian, Hink and myself are usually on. The instant communication is great for dealing with small issues, and talking about stuff in general. If you're interested, a lot of people use Mibbit.com. Just click here; next to IRC: click on the scroll window and find Freenode. Then, put Dylan620 as your "nick", and #wiki-hurricanes as your channel. I hope you stop in some time. Jason Rees (talk) 03:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar
I keep forgeting to thank you for the barnstar you gave me....so, Thank You :) Much appreciated :)  Take Care...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • January 3, 2009 @ 17:48

Your signature
Hey Dylan, just a little note that your signature can be seen as very distracting in a thread. I recommend you shorten it down, and remove the guestbook link. (Would you like me to make a small appropriate signature for you?)  aye matthew  @ 18:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Quick note
Dylan, I'm going to need to be blunt here. Your past 100 contribs include not a single mainspace edit. With all due respect, I suggest you step back and remember what Wikipedia is&mdash;an encyclopedia. Editors here should be working on articles, rather than chatting with other user. That's fine that you want to socialize, but Wikipedia isn't the place for it. I hope to not discourage you. Cheers, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, out of your last 500 contributions, only 23 are to articles. But of those 23, 18 are to Typhoon Virginia, 1 is requesting speedy deletion of La vigilia, and the other 3 are to Timeline of the 2001 Atlantic hurricane season. Of those 23, 12 (half) are using HotCat.  aye matthew  @ 18:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You've stated you want to be an admin: if you want to accomplish that, you need a steady stream of mainspace edits, and I'm not seeing that. Sam  Blab 15:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

biography illigit changes
sorry, got busy doing other things... My friend has a biography listed here (kenn rowell) and someone or some people keep changing his bio. He recognized the initial IP as a woman that he had prior connections to from one of his former band mates. Now there are other people coming in and making the changes. Obviously this disgruntled woman has enlisted other people into her vendetta. He has undone their changes so many times, that now HE has been blocked for making changes to his own bio!

He sent a letter several weeks back, trying to ask wikipedia to ban HER IP from making changes, and evidently they didnt, or it was temporary, or now, she is getting help. What can he do to lock his bio? or possibly stop this person or persons from making changes?

thanks psychokat PsycoKat (talk) 03:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest asking an administrator listed here for help regarding the matter. Cheers, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  03:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No offense, PsycoKat, but I don't even know why you're asking me. But while you're here, I would advise your friend to read WP:OWN. I would also take TenPoundHammer's advice. --  Dylan 620  ( Contribs  ·  Sign! ) 22:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Stumbled across this page by an odd series of links. It appears the user has an issue with a biography page of themselves (or their friend). I think a link to WP:BLP/H, rather than WP:OWN, may be of more use to this user. &raquo; \ / (⁂ | ※) 14:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: The old 2001 AHS timeline
Sounds good! Let me know when the A–FL page is created. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  14:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you're putting too much effort into it. A timeline isn't meant to be a serious article venture. It's a rather basic, straightforward list that has formations (with location), category changes, peak intensity, and dissipation/ET. The most difficult part of the timeline is the lede, which requires actual writing. If the lede is good, then you should be in good shape. However, the lede could be better. You need a source for saying its activity was above normal. "the season managed to persist into December 6 " - that is awkward. The season is only what some bureaucrats decided to classify the hurricane season as. That doesn't mean that storms can't form outside of those dates. Try and find a way to word it better. Also, Olga ceased to be a tropical cyclone on December 4, according to the TCR and the best track. "Tropical Storm Allison caused catastrophic flooding in Texas, leading to 41 deaths and $5 billion (2001 USD; $6.1 billion 2008 USD) in damage" - that implies that Allison caused all of the impact in Texas, which is misleading due to the heavy damage/deaths elsewhere along its track. "Hurricane Iris was, in terms of wind speed, the strongest storm of the season" - the "in terms of wind speed" feels awkward in how it interrupts the flow of the sentence. Try wording (maybe "Iris had the highest winds of any storm during the season"). Also, the Iris article indicates a higher damage toll than what you indicate. For Michelle, saying "In all, 17 people were killed" makes me think that was the season death toll, especially since the previous sentence equates Michelle only with Cuba.

I have some qualms about the actual timeline. First, make sure everything has both an imperial (mile) and metric (km) unit. That is a must before FLC. Second, make sure the information is true. For Barry, you start by saying "Tropical Depression Three forms" - Barry was never, ever, known as Tropical Depression Three. The same goes with Noel, which is first mentioned as "Subtropical Storm Two forms". That is completely not true, as operationally, Olga was SS2. Just because Noel was designated a subtropical storm in post-analysis, doesn't mean that it should be called by its name had it been classified operationally. As more content, for the longer storms, I think you need more locations. For example (while looking at the section), Olga's regeneration and later life should certainly mention that it was much farther than when it formed.

Hopefully my comments help. I opted to put them here, rather than on your sub-page, as that page isn't needed. All you need is to read up your policy, be careful with wording, and compare it to existing articles for the best format. Feel free to ask me questions if you decide to improve it, or good luck if you decide to work on articles instead. Cheers. --♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 21:46, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Moving a page
Hello. I am User:Faffle4, a continuation of User:renereynoso. Know me? good.i want to change the name of User:Renereynoso to User:faffle4, without deleting the content. I read Help:moving a page but i dont see the Move button anywhere.when you have figured this out, post it on the empty talk page of User:Faffle4. I AM THE SAME PErSOn! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faffle4 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You have to request a username change at WP:CHU. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Notice
I personally don't think such a long wikibreak is necessary, but if that's your decision, I hope you enjoy your time off. Cheers, –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  14:43, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Administrators'_noticeboard
Hi Dylan,

This message is to let you know that there is a discussion at ANI, Administrators'_noticeboard regarding you. I regret that it has had to come to this, but many editors have tried to refocus your efforts into building the encyclopedia and have had little or no effect. I understand that you are trying to take a wikibreak to learn more, but your previous breaks have neither lasted nor have they done anything to improve your edits.

The Helpful  One  17:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Community ban on Ecoleetage
Can you please tell me why the respectful Eco operates a sockpuppet called Eco2? I'm guessing it's just an alternative account for use on public computers, as I can tell by his username. By the way, I never saw him harass, and he made such respectful supports, opposes, and neutrals in RfAs. LucerneWorker user • talk • contribs 05:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see this. E Wing (talk) 05:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thankspam
Denbot (talk) 22:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC)