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Hi, I've noticed that you've gone back and relinked things that I've unlinked. An example of this would be Patricia Maxwell. Please be aware that linking pseudonyms only causes redirects back to the Patricia Maxwell page, which is frowned upon. Why link to a page you're already at? Also please remember to use a formal tone while writing since this is an encyclopedia. The links in the welcome message should be very helpful in setting you on your way to becoming a great wikipedian. Thanks. --ImmortalGoddezz 14:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

English Grammar
Hi Eromance. I have noticed that you have edited a lot of the romance novelist pages that I created. While I appreciate your input, I've noticed that the grammar you use does not always make sense. If English is not your first language and you are translating from other sites, please put the text on the talk page of the article first (or let me know on my talk page if you want) and someone can help polish the wording so that it will not confuse native English speakers. (And I would also like to second ImmortalGoddezz--please don't put links for the pseudonyms!!). Thanks. Karanacs 16:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Gracias for your cooperation! It is great that you are trying to help out the English wikipedia even though it is not your first language :) Karanacs 20:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Susan Longhi King
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 * I think it would have helped if you had put in links or references. I searched google for her a couple of times and couldn't find anything. SuzanneKn 22:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Categories
Please be careful when adding categories. Recently you've added Category:Romantic fiction writers to a lot of articles that already have Category:American romantic fiction writers in there. American romantic fiction writers is a subcategory of the Romantic fiction writers category and it is unnecessary to have both. Sub-categories are preferred because they have more detail than parent categories. Additionally you've been using the defaultsort template. Please make sure to removed the "|lastname, firstname]]" from the existing categories when you use it since the purpose of defaultsort is to get rid of all the repetitive formatting after the categories. I hope this helps. --ImmortalGoddezz 19:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Renaming pages
I've noticed that you've moved a couple of pages like Nora Roberts to Eleanor Marie Robertson, which is an incorrect move. You really need to stop moving these pages and read over Naming conventions (people) particularly the pseudonyms part. I'm going to move Eleanor Marie Robertson back to Nora Roberts in 7 days time unless there's some major disputes on the talk page. Anyway I hope this helps. --ImmortalGoddezz 22:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Be that as it may I still think that it should be moved back to Nora Roberts. Additionally if you read over the Naming Conventions you'll see that middle names are highly discouraged in the name titles. Also I've noticed that you've moved even more articles (eg. Jude Deveraux) Taking straight from the naming conventions links that I've given you it says this If people published under one or more pen names and/or their own name, the best known of these names is chosen. For example (again) Jude Deveraux. Since 1977 she's been known as Jude Deveraux; it's her best known name and her only known published name so it's unnecessary and unhelpful to move her page to Jude Gilliam even if she is married. In summary what I mean to say is that you are making unnecessary and confusing moves so I think it would be helpful if you read over the policies again. In the case of Nora Roberts since it is a disputed move I believe community consensus is the proper way to go and I will soon list it at WP:Requested Moves. Thank you. --ImmortalGoddezz 23:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I just noticed these moves, and I agree with ImmortalGoddezz. We'll only confuse people by listing the person under their full name rather than the name by which they are known.  We need to change all of these back to the names they were listed under before.  Karanacs 02:38, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyright infringement & also verifiability

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New historical romance page
Hi E-romance! I just wanted to let you know that I created a new page for historical romance today. From now on when we create articles about historical romance authors we can link to this instead of to the romance novel page (or you can link to both). The page still needs a lot of work, but I'm going to be gradually adding to it.Karanacs 18:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

A few concerns
I've come across a few of edits that you've made in authors articles, and that I've fixed, and I want to help you fix them yourself. Anyway: I think that's it. Anyway I really do hope this helps you with your editing. --ImmortalGoddezz 16:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) A person retaining residency in the United States is an American. Using American is the best way, I've found, to address that and makes using U.S. American unnecessary. Likewise United States of America and USA all redirect to United States why not bypass the redirects and just call it the United States or USA ?
 * 2) Do not bold the authors name after the first paragraph; see Manual of Style (text formatting). After you've introduced the author in the first paragraph there's no reason to draw the readers attention to the name again. They know who they're reading about or they wouldn't be there in the first place.
 * 3) Spam. You've been adding a lot of links like 'All Romance Writers' to the pages of some of these authors. Per WP:EL links that require registration should be avoided. Additionally you add these links in a way that can be considered promotion. Instead of Jill Shalvis's Webpage in Fantastic Fiction's Website try using Jill Shalvis at Fantastic Fiction instead. Also if you're going to cite these pages please link directly to the page that you got it from and not just for example, eHarlequins or Mills & Boon homepage.

Naming
I've noticed that you've been changing a lot of names in the romance authors pages from their commonly known names to their birth names or lesser known names. These changes are unnecessary and I know that I've gone back and reverted a few of them. Basically if the article is at 'ABC XYZ' then the article should start out 'ABC XYZ blah blah blah born as suchandsuch.' A good way to recognize what is the most recognized name is to look at the authors official website.. in the case of Diana Palmer her website is dianapalmer.com. I know a lot of these authors use pen names and for that the guideline is "If people published under one or more pen names and/or their own name, the best known of these names is chosen." Basically please read over naming conventions before changing all of these authors. Thanks and I hope this helps you with your editing. --ImmortalGoddezz 01:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am just copying this response from Belagaile's talk page to here because it covers everything I want to say. The birth name is not lost within the article if you mention pseudonyms later; however referring to the author by a lesser known name at the beginning of an article causes a great amount of confusion, especially if that name is obscure. Take for example the article Jenna Black; right now she writes under Jenna Black; however she has written under the pen name Jennifer Barlow. The article started off referring to her as Jennifer Barlow despite the fact that the article's name is Jenna Black. You do this to avoid confusion because most people don't realize that some of these people have more than one pen name, so you stick with the one that they're commonly known as and stay with that throughout the entire article. What I mean is that most people don't know that Eleanor Marie Robertson Smith Wilder is Nora Roberts because she doesn't write under that name, she hasn't published under that name, and she rarely refers to herself by that name when interviewing. It's ok to mention it later in the article, because it is her birth/married names however per WP:NAME "Names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors; and for a general audience over specialists." The whole gist of my comment can be boiled down to: Just because you might be familiar with their given name/lesser known pen names doesn't mean that everybody else is. --ImmortalGoddezz 17:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Jan Coffey
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Book cover images
Hi E-romance, I noticed that you have uploaded a few book cover images and have been adding those to the articles about the articles. Unfortunately, I don't think that these images can be used in the articles. The fair use rationale says that the article must explicitly discuss that book, and in the articles I have watchlisted the books aren't discussed. I think we would have to go into some detail about the book or its importance, and just having it listed in the bibliography does not satisfy the fair use requirements. You probably ought to remove all of the images of books that aren't specifically discussed in the articles. That will make the images orphaned and they will then be deleted. If you have any questions, let me know. Karanacs (talk) 22:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Heather Graham
Hi, did you see the discussion on the Heather Graham talk page before you moved it and made a disambig page? - TexMurphy (talk) 08:37, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Images
Hi E-romance, I saw that you uploaded a few book covers and have been adding those to articles. Please note that under fair use, the book covers can only be used in articles that are discussing the book (or the cover itself), in some depth. For the most part, these are inappropriate in articles about the author. Fair use guidelines are getting stricter on Wikipedia, and we have to be very careful to try to meet them. Thanks! Karanacs (talk) 22:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * ImmortalGoddezz and I both noticed that you had created a few articles on the first novels by some of the romance novelists. My guess is that this is in response to my comments about the images.  I don't think that any of those books meet Notability (books), the guideline for whether to have an article on a book.  Generally, books must have been the subject of several in-depth reviews or have other information written widely about them.  For the most part, Harlequin or Mills and Boon books don't have this type of information available, so those books wouldn't be able to get stand-alone articles.  If you have any questions, please let me know. Karanacs (talk) 15:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * As a further FYI, I've proposed the following articles for deletion:
 * The Passionate Winter
 * Now and Forever by Diana Palmer
 * Caroline (novel)
 * Duchess in Disguise
 * Karanacs (talk) 15:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Imagen
Hi Lady, I changed the book cover in Betty Neels. Belagaile (talk) 00:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violations
Hi E-romance. I discovered that in many of the book articles you created, the plot summary was copied directly from Fantastic Fiction. This is not acceptable on wikipedia. You cannot copy and paste text from other websites. I have deleted those articles and request that you not create them unless a) the books in question meet the guidelines in WP: Notability (books), b) the articles contain more than plot summary (see WP:NOT) and c) the text is not copied from somewhere else. Your contributions are encouraged, but you must follow the wikipedia rules. Karanacs (talk) 22:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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Names of spouses/children of authors
Hi E-romance, nice to see you back online. I wasn't sure if you were aware of the English WP policy on biographies of living people. In particular, WP:BLPNAME urges caution in using the names of people who aren't the subject of articles themselves. I don't think that it is necessary to know the names or ages of the children to fully understand the life of most authors. I would even more strongly advise not to include full birthdates of the children unless it is widely known (for example, the birthdate of Tom Cruise's daughter is likely very well known; those of Kathleen E. Woodiwiss's children probably aren't). That gets into privacy issues. Karanacs (talk) 21:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, please see Articles for deletion/Elissa Ambrose. As a result of this year's big push to deal with unreferenced biographies of living people, I've been steadily nominating for deletion articles on category romance authors if there aren't independent reliable sources, and this time I think you've been a significant contributor to this batch. Karanacs (talk) 21:46, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

On this note, PLEASE do not post the personal information of Kelley Armstrong (re:husband, kids, parents, marriage date). The author has not put out this detailed information for privacy reasons. - Concerned Party

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Naming conventions
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Sources needed for Days of the Year pages
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