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Proposed deletion of Lesbaret


The article Lesbaret has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Wikipedia is not for words you made up one day.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

A lesbaret is an established genre of theatre, not simply a made-up word. Uniquely lesbian cabarets include the famous Lesbische Frauen of Berlin, or contemporary lesbian burlesque acts performed at popular cabaret establishments such as Spin and Big Chicks in Chicago, among many others.

E.elisabeth.smith (talk) 19:18, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The fact that there are lesbians performing cabaret may or may not be notable (personally, I think probably not), but that is irrelevant. We are discussion not the genre of entertainment, but the word lesbaret, which appears to have been made up by one person to describe one act.  If the word catches on and becomes a generally used word for a particular genre of entertainment, we may want to have an article about it, but it has not done so yet.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:01, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Failure to turn up on a Google search is a pretty shaky reason to accuse a term of being made up for self-promotion. I am not the person who created the term or selling any particular show.

E.elisabeth.smith (talk) 20:07, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

(In addition, a lesbaret is not simply lesbians performing cabaret -- it is a distinct departure from cabaret's origin as a device for entertaining the male gaze. While the article is currently a stub, I am hoping that other individuals will continue to add information that further clarifies this and other misconceptions. Thanks for your consideration in understanding the term better.)

E.elisabeth.smith (talk) 20:11, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Lesbaret for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Lesbaret is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Lesbaret until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Dawn Bard (talk) 19:38, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

A lesbaret is an established genre of theatre, not simply a made-up word. Uniquely lesbian cabarets include those publicized by the famous "Lesbische Frauen" pamphlet about lesbian culture in Weimar-era Berlin, or contemporary lesbian burlesque acts performed at popular cabaret establishments such as Spin and Big Chicks in Chicago, among many others.

E.elisabeth.smith (talk) 19:40, 6 June 2013 (UTC)