User talk:ELoebenstein

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 17)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


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DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:ELoebenstein/sandbox


A tag has been placed on your user page, User:ELoebenstein/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be advertising which only promotes or publicises someone or something. Promotional editing of any kind is not permitted, whether it be promotion of a person, company, product, group, service, belief, or anything else. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

May 2024
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions; however, it appears you may have written a Wikipedia article, or a draft for a Wikipedia article, about yourself. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – please see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Notable people who have edited Wikipedia). If you wish to add to or change an existing article about yourself, you are welcome to propose the changes by visiting the article's talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss this with the deleting administrator. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Advice
Hi,

I appreciate that you've put a lot of effort into your sandbox draft, but I've had to request that it be deleted, firstly because it's very promotional in both tone and content, and secondly because at least the first two paragraphs appeared to be a copyright violation.

For future reference, here are a few things you should be aware of:
 * We very strongly discourage autobiographies; see WP:AUTOBIO for some of the reasons why this is.
 * Any sort of promotion is not allowed on Wikipedia, so if you were to write about yourself or any other topic for that matter, it must be done in an entirely factual, neutral language, avoiding any hyperbole, peacock language, or other embellishments. Repeated promotional editing invariably leads to the user's account being blocked. And before you say "I wasn't promoting, I was just telling the world about myself" – that is pretty much the definition of promoting; see WP:YESPROMO.
 * In any case, Wikipedia is not interested in what an article subject has to say about themselves; we only want to know what other, entirely independent and unconnected secondary sources (books, TV or radio programmes, magazines, newspapers) have said. Wikipedia articles are composed by summarising what such sources have said, warts and all, and without putting any additional 'spin' on things.

Following these guidelines, an article on you could perhaps be written, but even then it should be written by someone other than you (or anyone connected to you).

Hope this helps, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Does that mean that even if all peacock language is removed and the text from the website is removed and it remains factual with links to newspaper, online, website etc articles it still makes no difference if I am the primary submitter?
 * Thanks for your help ELoebenstein (talk) 08:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Let me put it this way: given our policy of discouraging autobiographies, the draft will be subject to strenuous scrutiny, and even the slightest hint of promotionality will be picked up on – and let's face it, it is very difficult for anyone to describe their career and achievements without some promotional language.
 * And what's more, you won't get many attempts at it: once you've been turned down a couple of times, there is a real risk that your account will be blocked as promotion-only. After that, anyone (including anyone genuinely unconnected to you) trying to create a draft or article on you will immediately be under suspicion of being in cahoots with you.
 * It may be possible to get the draft accepted, after all there is no actual ban on autobios, but it will be an uphill struggle. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:48, 17 May 2024 (UTC)