User talk:EPAP Online

Speedy deletion nomination of European Patient Ambassador Programme
Hello EPAP Online,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged European Patient Ambassador Programme for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, ToastyMallows talk 17:20, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I removed the article for two reasons: first, the reason stated above--something has to be in the article to indicate some degree of possible significance from the very first edit. But that's relatively trivial, because it is easily dixable if there are references available. The real problem is promotionalism:

A Wikipedia article needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say what they do. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what they have accomplished. Don't include material that would better belong in an advertisement or a web page, such as a detailed list of products or of executives or branch offices.Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM (permission that irrevocably gives everyone in the world the right to copy, reuse, and modify the material), the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable. (Thus, there is generally no purpose in giving permission; it is better to rewrite.)

Include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective donors or supporters--that sort of content is considered promotional.

And remember that a Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from  3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. If you have such good sources, it may be possible to rewrite the article; otherwise, including the case where all you have is press releases, it will not be possible to write an acceptable article.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. And keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity, and for the presence of sources that show notability.

For further information see our FAQ about business, organizations, and articles like this and also WP:FIRST.

Choose a username that does not include or refer to the subject of the article. As explained in WP:USER, only individuals may edit. When you have a username that is or includes the name of your organization, you imply that you are editing officially, and have a superior right to edit the page. But that is not the way WP works--all editors are considered equal--and your contributions like those of any editor must be justified by sources. I'm sure you do not intend to give such impression, but that's why we have the rule. Therefore, you must choose another name. On that user   page,  you should disclose your conflict of interest.