User talk:EVula/Apr-Jun 2008

This archive contains comments posted between April 2008 and June 2008.

I'm Shocked!
Wow I just noticed this on my watchlist...I'm shocked! Well I hope the reason you are leaving is under good circumstances and not due to on/off Wiki stress :(. Feel free to contact me any time via email if you ever wish to chat.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk)  02:06, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Crap, now I feel bad. Just my little contribution to April 1, albeit a bit premature. Goes hand-in-hand with the rickroll article I just split. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Gosh darnit!!! I've been the butt of how many jokes today?! I'm too gullible...¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk)  02:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You may have fallen for the prank, but your message did make me feel extremely appreciated, which always goes a long way. The prank put a smile on my face in way that was totally unexpected; thank you. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've just came back on wikipedia after a while, and I was like "Wow, EVula retired?". And then I click the link and here comes youtube. That was too good. --Hirohisat (Talk) 02:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I hate you dude, don't do this to me!!! ~ Riana ⁂ 02:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Riana said it. :P I really have to think of a good joke for tomorrow. Last year I tied my brother in law (who wasn't my brother in law yet) to his bed. He eventually got out of it, and then came and socked me. LOL. &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  03:08 1 April, 2008 (UTC)

Rickroll
How is adding this info not a violation of the very definition of the WP:OR policy on Wikipedia? Cirt (talk) 05:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not an original thought; nobody is saying the rationale behind the decision. It's something that has happened. That's a fact, regardless of citation. Is it original research? In my opinion, no. Does it need a valid source? Yes. But like I said, insisting on a source for something that is mere hours old is downright silly. At this point, we're moving faster than most news websites; I have no doubt that the YouTube stunt will get documented somewhere, but it just hasn't happened yet.


 * Does it mar the article a bit? Possibly. That doesn't change the fact that it's just going to keep getting added over and over in the coming hours; containing the relevant bit of information is far more productive than attempting to squash it entirely. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * But doesn't the fact that you have to go the YouTube, check out what is going on for yourself, and then come back to the article constitute a violation of the WP:OR policy, as opposed to citing a secondary WP:RS/WP:V source that discusses and analyzes the event ? (FYI, as an aside, I have been adding some more potential sources to a Further reading section).  Cirt (talk) 06:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:OR defines original research as "unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position". Stating that YouTube rickrolled everyone doesn't do that; it's a statement of fact. However, that ignores the fact that swing Wikipedia shortcuts around isn't constructive. All we need to about it is keep it tagged with fact and then replace it when the source comes along. Yes, it sucks, but sometimes you have to take a step backwards to take two steps forwards.


 * And yes, I saw your edits; fantastic work. There are several on Talk:Never Gonna Give You Up as well. If I wasn't prepping for a vacation, I'd be doing more to help out, but I doubt my girlfriend would accept "I was improving the Rickroll article" as a valid excuse for why I still had stuff to do... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:22, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, you make some valid points above, and the fact tag is certainly a good compromise for the time being, and this will most likely get press/media exposure soon. Thanks for the comment about my edits, I also posted a note to the talk page - hopefully adding pre-formatted cites to a Further reading section will make it easier for other editors to incorporate some of that stuff into the article - sometimes new sources crop up too fast to add em all at once, and that is an easy way to at least show people the significant amount of coverage this is getting in secondary WP:RS/WP:V sources.  Cirt (talk) 06:28, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Ringler Associates
Hello, I am writing about the deletion of the Ringler Associates Page. I am a new user, but I followed to the best of my knowledge all the requirements for page creation, and I was wondering why the page was deleted. I understand that it was tagged as advertising, but as it lists only factual information it seems to me that under this criteria nearly all pages for companies etc (i.e. State Farm) would need to be deleted. You are obviously an experienced and knowledgeable user, if you could please tell me what can be done to keep the page up I would appreciate it. Thanks Ringlernm (talk) 15:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry it's taken me so long to respond to this, but it got buried in the numerous April 1st messages I got. Are you still interested in pursuing this? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I would still like to pursue this. Thanks! Ringlernm (talk) 12:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Damn You
Got me. :) Pedro : Chat  15:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How quickly people forget the date. Awesome, dude! -- Flyguy649 talk 15:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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OMG I've been rickrolled! --Kim Bruning (talk) 15:42, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You're not getting me a second time... i hope $%" Simply south (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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I fell for it :P Although I became suspicious when your "essay" was meant to be on Meta yet the link in the bottom right was to YouTube :P Very nice though ^_^ ≈  The Haunted Angel  18:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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The Dave Ramsey Show (TV Series)
EVula - I just saw that the Dave Ramsey Show (TV Series) was merged with the Dave Ramsey article without any proposal or discussion. Since this is an increasingly popular television show that isn't really about him, I'm confused as to the reasons for this decision? Jrclark (talk) 18:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, I may have gone a bit overboard in overhauling the Ramsey article. However, there was nothing in the article to suggest that it was anything than an average TV show stub... I wouldn't be upset if you felt that the merge should be reverted.


 * Honestly, though, everything related to the man on Wikipedia just reeks of spam; that's the whole reason I was gutting his article to begin with, and am perfectly willing to admit that I may have been a bit overzealous. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know too much about his other articles (I know he has a pretty successful radio show, but I have yet to find it on the dial), but I do think the television show warrants a separate article. I suspect that as Fox Business gets picked up by additional cable providers, his profile and ratings will grow dramatically.  I started the television show article, I can vouch for it not being spam or advertising.  Jrclark (talk) 00:04, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, what about an article that covers both shows?, with a later spinning-out of individual pages at a possibly later date. That would also allow the entire block to be removed from his article, which would make it read a lot better. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * EVula, I think that sounds like a decent idea for now. Jrclark (talk) 10:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the chance to fix our article before letting it get deleted.
The royal we, our, etc. in your reply to my comments on the (now deleted) discussion about the (then proposed) Scikotics article is humorous.

Just because something isn't verifiable via the Internet, doesn't make it unverifiable. Just because something isn't notable for a small group of Wikipedia editors, doesn't mean that it isn't notable. Wikipedia was once a great concept, now it's just a joke. No wonder it's not accepted as a source for college papers.

Have a great day. No really.

Ntwrkguru (talk) 01:53, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Couple of things:
 * Glad you found me funny. :)
 * I hold no illusion that our notability guidelines are 100% perfect. However, no sources were provided in the week that the AfD ran, or in the entire year that the article existed. I would be more than willing to overturn the deletion and restore the article if I were shown sources that proves that Scikotics has achieved a reasonable amount of attention from the press. Deletion is not permanent.
 * No tertiary source is, or ever has been, accepted as a source for college papers. Encyclopedias, including Wikipedia, are tertiary sources.
 * Hopefully I'll hear back from you with some sources. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Closing of AFD's
I will be online today at 12:00PM (my time its currently 8:27AM) if you wish to discuss these and I can tell you my rationale for closing these AFD's. Thanks and Happy Editing!!  D u s t i talk to me 12:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I wasn't asking for your rationale; I was telling you to stop. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, your being uncivil and I completley disagree with your process. Please read my talk page and the discussion that took place after you left your edit.  D u s t i talk to me 16:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Dusti, this isn't the right approach on your part. You're allowed to disagree, but you have an uphill battle here with several editors/admins.  This all needs to stay in one place, your talkpage.  Don't go 'round stirring things.   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  16:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I realize you think I'm being brusque; I'm not actually even going to disagree with you, as you might very well have a point. (and yes, I did see what was posted; I replied to it on the ANI thread) But that doesn't change the fact that you're way out of line by closing AfDs. You've been told again and again not to do it, yet you continue to assert that you should. I don't want to block you, but if you keep disrupting the AfD process, that's exactly what is going to happen. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * copied to Dusti's talk page (will respond there)  D u s t i talk to me 16:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

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Just in case your not watchlisting Keeper's talkpage
Please review the converstion and add your thoughts, views, and concerns. Thanks and Happy Editing  D u s t i talk to me 18:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Kurt "drama"
Very disappointing. As you well know, the drama is happening only here, and only because some don't even kindly ignore a quipping comment by myself, when at the same time they demand tolerance or even acceptance for Kurt's opposes. Actually, disappointing is not the right word. Absolutely unacceptable comes a lot closer. The comment of mine you removed was not about Kurt, but a quip regarding his rationale. I won't restore it, of course, because I'm calm as a cow right now because I spent the last hour and a half fucking like an animal. But it's still unacceptable. Dorftrottel (complain) 21:18, April 10, 2008
 * I do apologize for not dropping you a line about it; one of the problems with editing from work is that I can't concentrate on a single issue, and lose track of what I meant to do.


 * However, I stand by my removal of the entire thread. How was your comment productive in any way? What did it do, aside from stirring up the same old debate about Kurt that have been hashed, rehashed, and beaten to death with a bludgeon? ("Same shit different day" is the best phrase I can think of about the perpetual cloud of drama that follows Kurt) It wasn't about the candidate, and it didn't do an actual dissection of the opposing rationale; it just poked and prodded Kurt, which happens too much.


 * I removed the comments and replaced it with one that, I felt, would help dissuade additional unproductive and drama-spewing discussions. I seem to have caused a bit myself, and I apologize for it as that wasn't my intent, but really, we all collectively need to stop harping on Kurt every time he opens his mouth and move on. There are much better things we can get worked up, such as splitting hairs over the exact wording of WP:IAR and other such worthy pursuits...


 * And as an aside, cheers to your off-wiki activities. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I know you removed those comments with the best of intentions, but I would ask people to calm down and take due responsibility for creating the drama and disruption themselves, by talking about it. In German there's the word "herbeireden", which has no literal English translation but roughly means creating something by talking about it ("self-fulfilling prophecy" would be too dramatic). Balloonman did this today, and it had none —not even a potential— purpose whatsoever. It was far worse than my initial comments (or Kurt's opposes, for that matter) and I sincerely hope he sees this. In no way e.g. did I challenge Kurt's right to comment, nor do my comments amount to harassment, which term carries certain wikispecific connotations. How needlessly inflammatory. So, I hope you understand, I'm not the one who gets worked up. Not until an admin challenges my right to freely comment in RfAs, on-topic but the way I see fit. I'm not the one who took this to WT:RfA. Balloonman did, and his actions were shortsighted to say the very least and most civil and calm I have to say about this. Cheers. Dorftrottel (troll) 00:36, April 11, 2008
 * (just a placeholder response so you know I'm not ignoring you; your post deserves a lot more attention than I can give it right now, and I don't think you want a half-assed answer... next extended break I get, I'll give you the proper response you deserve) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I came here to award Evula a barnstar for her removing your comments. But seeing that you are calling my action sortsighted, I have to respond.  No.  The community has repeatedly affirmed Kurt's right to oppose people for whatever reason he wishes to while acknowledging that the crats will give his voice the appropriate amount of attention it deserves.  You (and others) tend to disrupt the process by commenting on his legitimate !votes everytime---by mocking and criticizing him/his position.  His position has been discussed and essentially discounted, but his right to his view has been repeatedly affirmed.  While attacks against him, have not been.  It is disruptive because and yes, you do attack Kurt!  I personally will follow in EVula's footsteps and delete these attacks.  They, not Kurt's votes, have become disruptive and YOU have declared your intention to continue to be disruptive.Balloonman (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * . Dorftrottel (complain) 23:43, April 11, 2008

Just a note that I'm still looking forward to that reply since apparently, Balloonman shows no insight as to his own part in this; he has now picked up (and vows to continue) removing RfA comments by me and others he deems as "unconstructive". I'm perfectly willing to drop the matter, but I do not feel comfortable with Balloonman's aggressive stance and his attacks and allegations of disruption against me. I feel like he might snap at any moment and just remove any comment he deems unconstructive. Since ANI is this big admin-love-admin cesspool, I know that bringing it up there won't have any results, and since Balloonman is now justifying his actions by referring to your judgement, I was hoping you could help with determining what kinds of comments are and what kinds of comments are not allowed in RfAs; and also whether or not it is infact appropriate for Balloonman himself to continue removing comments of mine and not let someone else, less involved and less emotionally attached, handle the matter. Dorftrottel (canvass) 17:56, April 14, 2008
 * Yeah, sorry. I've been working on a website all weekend and using WP as more or less a break from it; as a result, I've been doing light, fluffy editing, rather than sitting down and giving this thread some thought (which, given the above conversation, looks like I'll need to give it even more consideration). I'll try to get back to you by EOD today. My apologies. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've asked both good editors to hash this out away from talkpages, away from RFAs. Today's posts from each editor today are beyond pointy and, IMO have crossed the line.  Need less heat, more light.  If your interested, here.  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  18:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yet another location cannot solve the essential problem, I'm afraid. Dorftrottel (warn) 19:34, April 14, 2008
 * It's a good faith effort to get you both to fight it out. It gets it off EVula's page, WT:RFA, it avoids further escalation to ridiculous Wikidrama crap.  Worth a shot.   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  19:38, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Finally responding
Oy vey. Just goes to show that, if you don't address something immediately, you'll get even more stuff to read over...

Anyway, I can't actually comment for all the other stuff related to this; I'm not comfortable speaking for others. Instead, I'll just speak for myself; not because I'm particularly good at it, mind you, but I'm liable to get slightly less flak for it. :)

I understand, and in no way doubt, that your comment was placed in good faith. However, given the ridiculous amount of contention and emotion (ie: drama) that surrounds Kurt pretty much every time he participates in RfAs, I still feel that the removal of that entire thread was the right thing to do.

Key questions:
 * Could I have phrased my statement better, in a tone that was a bit less dismissive? Yes.
 * Should I have followed it up with an explanatory post on your and Lradrama's talk pages? Yes.
 * Was the thread productive, aiding the discussion of the current candidate? No.
 * Is Kurt's RfA participatory statement pretty much the same as it always is? Yes.
 * Was there any reason to discuss/debate/whatever his rationale in that particular RfA? No.
 * Should EVula stop making vaguely assholesque edits, especially when he's in the middle of a bunch of other crap that prevents him from giving the repercussions of his ill-advised actions the full amount of attention they deserve? Oh hells yeah. :)

Has the situation been handled especially well since I made that initial edit? No, I don't feel it has been. I tried to remain very neutral in terms of the participating editors when I made that call; I've never said anyone was harassing anyone. I tried to point out the futility of the discussion and nip in the bud; I readily admit that my attempts failed in that respect.

I do apologize for the resultant drama (not to mention the extreme delay of this response), and would like to know what it would take for me to "make things right" as much as I can on my end. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a bunch for the explanatory comment. As to the point "Was there any reason to discuss/debate/whatever his rationale in that particular RfA? No." — You know, I do fully agree. Then again —and this is a valid concern whatever any number of other people "agree on"— does Kurt Weber's oppose rationale pertain to any particular RfA? No, but since the community has decided to tolerate those generic opposes, it should imho also be allowed to reply to those comments of his, much like to any other comments in what -ostensibly- is a discussion. The fact that the responses to Kurt's generic oppose don't have much to do with any particular RfA follows logically from the fact that Kurt's oppose itself has nothing to do with any particular RfA in the first place. At any rate, after the reactions I got from Balloonman, I'll probably just accept that RfA is not a discussion any longer and that I cannot freely comment there lest it be assumed to be pointy disruption, harassment, attacks, and what other nice words have been used. All in all, there's not much more that you could do. Thanks again. Dorftrottel (canvass) 06:16, April 16, 2008
 * Okay, when considering Kurt's "generic oppose", ask yourself a key question: Why does he oppose? Because he has personal requirements for an RfA. Yes, his requirements are abnormally stringent, but that's all he's going by: his requirements. I have my own requirements, and have opposed RfAs that have failed to meet my expectations. That is no more or less unrelated to the particular RfA than Kurt's comments are; the only difference is that my requirements are a little bit looser than his (and I tend to have a bit more tact).


 * The only problem here ("here" being defined as the whole of the Kurt debacle, which is much, much larger than the one RfA and my edit that touched off this entire line of discussion) is that people keep responding, often times very negatively, to Kurt's comments. There's no reason for it, and I've seen a lot of disruption caused over what is, esentially, the system working exactly as it should: people expressing their opinions. While I'm usually 100% open to the discussion of rationales (of both oppose and support !votes), I have absolutely no faith that such a dialogue can be had in a calm and rational manner in the RfAs themselves, which is why I've adopted such a hard[ass] attitude about the entire situation.


 * As for your own RfA participation, nobody short of ArbCom can tell you to stop participating (and here I mean "judging individual RfA candidates via your own personal criteria"). Responding to Kurt, bad idea, and should be kept to an absolute minimum. But !voting? Anyone telling you that you can't is outright wrong. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Surprised at deletion of User:Jflodmi515
I am a little puzzled on your deletion of User:Jflodmi515. I have watchlisted this user since he placed a nasty post on my Talk page April 8th and since he's on his way to an indef. Just curious as User talk:Jflodmi515 would have to be CSD#G8 as an orphan Talk page now. -- Alexf42 00:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The user in question didn't create the page; someone else did. If Jflodmi515 had created it, I wouldn't have touched it (the editor who did create it has recently popped onto my radar, so I was perusing his contribs).


 * Also, please re-read G8; user and talk pages are excluded. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You are correct. My bad. Cheers. -- Alexf42 00:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, that happens to everyone but me. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

For you consideration...
... on your funny subpage.


 * 	you know what's odd
 * <Riana>	I sent cuddles to all my facebook friends yesterday
 * <Riana>	and all I've gotten back are spankings
 * <Riana>	I appear to be friends with some dirty dirty people
 * <LaraLove>	What did I send you?
 * LaraLove	thinks a spanking
 * <Riana>	you sent me spankings too!
 * <LaraLove>	haha
 * <LaraLove>	Yea... I guess you have a spankable ass.
 * <Riana>	I guess so.
 * <LaraLove>	At least we didn't all teabag you.
 * <LaraLove>	So it could have been worse, Riana
 * <Riana>	lol, did I tell you what it does when you want to teabag someone?
 * <LaraLove>	spot of tea
 * <Riana>	lame!
 * <LaraLove>	srs
 * <Riana>	if I want to rub my balls in someone's face... THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO

Good day.  Lara  ❤  Love  13:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably an inappropriate time to mention that I totally had a dream about you yesterday, dude. It was a very family-friendly one, don't worry. But it involved you kicking the ass of a shoe salesman. No idea. ~ Riana ⁂ 13:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah man, I had a dream about you last night too...er...gotta go. >_> GlassCobra 13:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * :O Dude, you have chicks in the BRC now. You can stop fantasising about poor EVula. ~ Riana ⁂ 13:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a dream about all three of you last night... and a shoe salesman. I know why EV was kicking his ass. ;)  Lara  ❤  Love  13:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Quote added. Love it. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

barnstar

 * Thanks! I still have a couple of reservations about the whole thing (primarily related to the thread above), but I still believe that, in the long run, it's the best course of action. We'll see... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Star for thee

 * Yay! I generally write and keep that stuff around for my own amusement; I'm glad to know that at least someone else appreciates it as well. :)


 * Also, this is my tenth Good Humor barnstar. If anyone ever accuses me of being too serious, I'm afraid that I'll just have to smack them across the face. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Tenth. That explains a lot....
 * Speaking of opining sections, you might want to check this out. I'll admit I have a habit of taking pages out of other people's books, but hey, they're well-written books!  21 6 55  ωhατ δo γoυ ωαητ? 17:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, weren't you the first guy who opposed my 2nd RFA? The "not going down w/o fight" one? I hope that screwup didn't give you TOO much of a negative image of me...  21 6 55  ωhατ δo γoυ ωαητ? 02:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if it makes you feel any better, I don't hold grudges or anything when it comes to RfAs; not only do I have epic fail-level memory, but I try to judge each RfA on its own merits. For example, on hmwith's 2nd RfA, I commented that I'd been under the impression that she was already an admin, despite having participated (being Neutral) in her first RfA. And now, apparently, we're getting married, though I think it'd be a bit much for you to expect the same treatment... ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * True dat. I've got a feeling the 3rd RfA will be a bit less...er, cloudy-minded, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see....
 * I've also noticed...that I use...ellipses...very indiscriminately....  21 6 55  ωhατ δo γoυ ωαητ? 16:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well... there are worse things to abuse. For example... well... I hate when people use "quotes" on things that don't need them. Drives me... crazy. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:34, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "Well", "there's" "that". We could probably go on for hours...er, posts, on stuff that's abused when it doesn't need to be, but I'm starting to get off the point, which is that you're freakin' hilarious. Case closed. ... ... ... ... (By the way, did you read this? Try thinking of it as a violent collision of surrealism and complete and utter randomness, with a side of beef thrown in. Always gotta have "beef" when you're being random.) 21 6 55  ωhατ δo γoυ ωαητ? 22:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The main thing I got from that is that you should be a writer for Adult Swim. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:23, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't get it.  21 6 55  ωhατ δo γoυ ωαητ? 22:25, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Adult Swim specializes in insanely random humor. You'd fit in well, methinks. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "I" "now" "get" "it".  21 6 55  ωhατ δo γoυ ωαητ? 22:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * All done. Enjoy....  21 6 55  ωhατ δo γoυ ωαητ? 19:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * ...I really wish I had as much spare time as you, apparently. :) (seriously, most of my essays are only half-done because I do the initial burst of writing, and then move on to something else. I'm a wikignome because I can't focus on an article for too long without getting bored) EVula // talk //  &#9775;  // 19:25, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha! There I am... I know you can only go so long without talking about me, EVula. ;) <font face="times new roman"> hmwith τ   19:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Post-transcriptional regulation
Thanks. And, yes, it was a crappy copyright violation--which took 2 minutes to correct. However, I see all sorts of places that articles needed improvement are listed, like stub categories. There is a wikiproject Medical Genetics page, so I will post it there for need of help as the topic is of major importance for human HIV. Surprising omission for Wikipedia, topic wise. --Blechnic (talk) 03:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * * shrug* Not the first time I've seen a good-faith AfD that was severely out of place. Oh well; no harm, no foul. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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Good reading material
User:Elaragirl/wpphil. Sceptre (talk) 19:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Any essay that starts with "I guarantee this page will piss you completely the fuck off" gets my attention, that's for damn sure. :) I should add a "See also" section to my own AGF essay. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yay. Sceptre (talk) 12:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your [my] contributions to UAA
I thought it was a blatant violation but an administrator said it was fine. I presumed (s)he would know better so I put that template on it as a compromise. <em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:#008000">George D. Watson  (Dendodge). Talk Help 07:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh Christ... it never ends!!!
No more words need to be said, I'm guessing. I think I speak for everyone when I say; "double-you, tea, eff" :P ≈  The Haunted Angel  13:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought things had been too quiet on that front... blocked. If he makes another account, I'll ask a CU for assistance, but it doesn't seem like these are sleeper accounts or anything; all they could do is confirm what he's saying. *shrug* EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually laughed out loud when I clicked on his User name, after the link had mysteriously turned from red to blue, and saw the indef block template =D But I'm guessing that he'll try this every few months or so; if I remember correctly, he tried it a while ago as well, so my guess is that every few months, he gets bored and thinks "I wonder how THA and EVula are doing", then pays a visit to Wikipedia. Still, at least his visits have been infrequent. As always, thanks for the help with him =D ≈  The Haunted Angel  14:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I feel so unloved; he only bugs you, and leaves me alone. Oh woe is me! EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Heads up AGF
Hi, have you seen User:Filll/AGF Challenge by ? Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I'll have to take it sometime when I'm not swamped with uter stuff... which means I don't know if I'll ever take it, but whatever! :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hi. Wanna be friends? --WeezleBeezle (talk) 20:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Er, well, generally I don't consider someone my friend unless I've worked with them a lot. I'm not opposed to being friends, I'm just a fairly guarded person. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:51, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You should want to be EVula's friend. When I was new, I asked him to be my friend. He said yes, and, now, we're getting married in June. God bless Wikipedia. <font face="times new roman"> hmwith τ  

Changing username
Greetings. I've reverted you here at Changing username. If an IP makes a request for an account to renamed, it is tagged with, thus giving a chance for the user to login and confirm the request. Thanks, Qst (talk) 15:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I reverted it not solely because it was an IP, but because the request was severely botched as well. Because of that, Kingturtle just accidentally said it was done. :) *shrug* EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:25, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Your interference
Your interfering comments have been address on my talk page. Giano (talk) 18:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Danke. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
For reverting the vandalism on my user page and dealing with the culprit. Jackaranga (talk) 15:32, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Replied
at my talk page. Eusebeus (talk) 18:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Help?
I need help with my archiving. I want, if possible, to begin the bot archiving in my 3rd archive, all threads older than 2 days. Also, if possible, I've tried and failed, to have a new archive started automatically every two months, or do I have to do this manually? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustihowe (talk • contribs)
 * Eh, you're probably asking the wrong person; I do all my archiving manually, broken up by quarters, so I have no experience with the archiving bots. I'm also pretty bad about actually doing the archiving (as you can see, my page starts at April 1st, though it is pretty hilarious), which results in rather long pages every once and a while... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. <font face="Ravie"> D u s t i complain/compliment 19:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_Haunted_Angel&diff=next&oldid=208323904 He actually seems sincere... but going under the name "American Brit" doesn't help his case...] ≈  The Haunted Angel  22:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I would have been more receptive to his requests if he hadn't protested the last block by saying he was going to press charges against me. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Fun times =D ≈  The Haunted Angel  00:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

News from Ariel Gold...
HOORAY!!!! Have been very worried. GREAT to know was for naught! Thank you, EVula! <font color="F64A8A">Shir-El  too  19:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, me too. I'd actually had a conversation with her on IRC many moons ago where she more or less said that she could die and nobody online would know, so I was really worried. I can't remember the last time I was that happy to get an email. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Requests_for_adminship/Philosopher
I think I remember you in the past dealing (removing?) with commentary after Kurt Weber prima facie opposes. It happened in this new RfA, and of course there is a new discussion regarding the whole thing in the RfA. It's hard to handle... commenting in the RfA would only add to it, posting on user talk pages wouldn't do much. I just don't think the back-and-forth that has little to do with the RfA should be included. Just a heads-up. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've moved it to the talk page; that seems to be the best course of action when dealing with this type of situation, as the outright removal of the discussion can be rather poorly received (as I've found out first hand). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I was just coming here to say that moving the discussion is way better than blanking/removing it outright. EVula is the shit sysop.   Keeper   |   76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  20:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm very happy to prove that, on occasion, I can learn from my mistakes, despite certain chapters from my love life suggests a different story entirely... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:10, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Huh.....Interesting.....And I had heard that EVula never makes mistakes? Maybe you should show that essay to your future love life participants?  Or maybe not....... In fact, don't.  That'll probably kill any possible "activity" that you may be about to partake in....  Cheers,   Keeper   |   76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  20:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, WP:EVULA is largely only about Wikipedia. Unless I start dating a fellow Wikipedian (my engagement to hmwith not withstanding), I'll sadly probably continue to still have plenty of mistakes on that front. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:u
^^^^ New  Staffwaterboy  Talk ♂ 17:54, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got your talk page watchlisted, you don't need to give me a reminder. Thanks though. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Reason #87423 why EVula is teh best
Thanks for wikignoming the shit out of my userpages. And you wonder why I need you in my life? So, basically, I made you a special present for when you come home from the wiki-office. Enjoy. <font face="times new roman"> hmwith τ   23:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Aww, thanks dear! ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:45, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

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 * If got you on my watchlist, no need to place this tag; trust me, I'll find you... mwuhahah!
 * cough* 'Scuse me. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

recent warning
Hi, your recent warning made me feel :( It was my first edit and you used a sledgehamnmer to crack a walnut; it was just a joke lighten up. May i remind you of wp:newbies. Thank you for your time and may the force be with you.--Gibbon45 (talk) 23:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your very first edit being borderline harassment is a very choice of a first edit. Perhaps I overreacted, I'm willing to say, but you should also be cognizant of how your edits are likely to be interpreted by others. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Edits as those is classified as cyberbullying, which is classified as harassment in the United States. Although I'm not going to go wild over it, other people might, so just remember to think before you speak (or in this case type). GO-PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 18:21, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for !voting in my Rfa. I hope I can learn and build from it. CJ2005B (talk) 20:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry it went down the way it did, but I'm glad you aren't taking any of it personally. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Advice
Hello again, just following up and wondering what editing needs to be done so the article on Ringler Associates will not be subject to deletion. Thanks Ringlernm (talk) 17:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that feel completely off my radar.


 * I took another look at Ringler Associates. Aside from the fact that it comes across as blatant advertising for the company, it also does nothing to establish Ringler's notability. I'd recommend gathering up some reliable sources (such as news articles) that suggest that Ringler Associates is notable enough to be in Wikipedia.


 * If you have any other questions, just drop me a line. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you...

 * Eh? Not that I'm one to turn down a barnstar, but I don't recall reverting any vandalism on your userpage.. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Silly me, I was looking on the user page, rather than the user talk page. My bad. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Guess who
Go on, take a guess who it is before you click, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised ≈  The Haunted Angel  20:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Damn, I was hoping it was a supermodel asking for advice about which bra looked better. Boy was I wrong... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually laughed out loud when I read that =D ≈  The Haunted Angel  20:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA
When all those votes were cast, the RfA was transcluded. It was removed by balloonman because the user had under ten edits. Tan  |   39  15:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ha, I just came here to say, "wow, that was vague" and to specify what I was talking about, but it looks like you figured it out. Never mind, nothing to see here. Tan   |   39  15:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I realized that about 10 seconds after removing them, and then promptly reverted myself. Sometimes being bored at work can have devastating effects. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:59, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nod... edits wikipedia instead of work...Balloonman (talk) 16:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Email blocks
Hey, EVula. Just a reminder that email should not be disabled as a default when blocking accounts. Per the blocking policy, email should only be disabled in response to abuse of the email function. Thanks, - auburn pilot   talk  20:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Besides, that's a better pet peeve than any of mine. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I totally missed that. Eep. Thanks for the heads up. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. It's a bit of a pet peeve (odd, I know) and I've seen a fair number of admins doing it. Thanks for the quick response. - auburn pilot   talk  22:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, that's a legitimate thing to have as a pet peeve. I generally only do it to accounts that I feel don't feel like have a snowball's chance of getting unblocked (blatant username vios, vandalism-only accounts, etc), but if it's against policy, then it's against policy.

Thank you...
...for this. Gerrish (talk) 21:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC) If you can email me exactly what Acalamari asked me, I'll consider not quoting it. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Actually, it was my first rollback permissions change, so I should thank you for making the request. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, it would have been my 355-something rollback granting had I been a few seconds faster. :) You beat me! :) Acalamari 21:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought I felt someone breathing down my neck... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * On a slightly different note, I've sent you an E-mail. Acalamari 22:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Get out of my head! [that will make no sense to anyone but Acalamari] EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Made sense to me. But then again, I'm a minor prophet.  And a snoop.  And a private investigator.  Also know as a Dick.  I'm a dick.   Keeper   |   76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  22:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, I'm now going to quote that out of context whenever possible.
 * Very scary! Acalamari 22:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

EVula, you might want to take at Gerrish's recent rollback contribs. Many of them are not vandalism reverts. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I just checked his last forty edits, and all the rollbacks looked valid to me (there was a total of one that was very mildly concerning). Anything in particular that you noticed? I can't do a more thorough check at the moment, but can later tonight. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I'd be interested as well. Please enlighten.  Gerrish (talk) 20:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi didn't mean to come off as accusatory. Here are some:, , , , . Obviously good faith reverts, but these are not blatant vandalism. I also agree they are mild, but this is just in the last two days since the tool was given. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 20:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's standard that the date articles don't allow red links.  does the exact same reverts with no explanation.  Another example of yours is spam - also a candidate for rollback per my understanding.  In general, my protocol is to use rollback whenever the reason for the revert is - as you said - obvious, like this one where someone claims the Mets won the NL pennant in 2006.  Obviously untrue.  Gerrish (talk) 21:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll let EVula deal with it, but correct protocol for rollback is NOT whenever the reason is obvious. I revert things that are obvious all the time, but if they are not blatant vandalism, I undo with a detailed explanation. The Mets one is the best example. Of course they didn't win the pennant, but they did win their division for first time in 18 years or whatever and had the best record in the NL, so its not crazy that a user would have mistaken that. I'm fairly sure we don't rollback such edits. Some of those date articles were good faith additions, albeit wrong. The football manager was put in death when it should have been birth... this is an error, not vandalism. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 21:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that depends on your definition of "blatant". To the casual observer, no, it's not a major gaffe. But for the editor, there's only a little bit of leeway we should give them in regards to their intentions; I can only barely believe that the person actually factually thought that the Mets really did win in 2006. As a result, it's blatant because the intent was malicious (though that might be too strong a term; I don't think they were out to destroy Wikipeda, but I have trouble believing in their good intentions). Same with the football manager; the edit said he was born in the 1880s, which is ridiculous, and it came at the expense of an existing listing (ie: I would have a different attitude about their intentions if it had been a new addition to the list).


 * I think removing redlinks from date pages and potential spam should be done with a manual edit summary, however, even if the usual bot doesn't even do that. If you do more than the bot, you're just ensuring that humanity can put off our eventual overthrowing by machines. ;)


 * Gerrish, since you're watching this, I'll just point out here that perhaps you should be less trigger-happy with the rollback, but even these examples I wouldn't consider to be particularly outlandish violations of rollback; I know I've been guilty of removing bogus content from March 17 (my birthday) with rollback (and to be fair, date articles tend to attract a lot of bogus edits; I'm willing to believe that I'm not 100% clear-minded on this front). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That's fine but I'll point out that WP:ROLLBACK says not to use it "If there is any doubt about whether an edit should be rolled back"... In the examples given above, I had no doubt - and I don't think you folks would have either.  Gerrish (talk) 00:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Ha! I didn't no that EV was a patty. Happy b-day, patty. Keeper  |   76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  21:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The deeply ironic part is that I don't drink. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You could always wear green though. I don't drink either.  I guzzle.   Keeper   |   76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  21:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thank you for correcting that on my user page. :-) Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  21:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's fun to scurry about in peoples' userspace. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:45, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Indents
You just messaged me as I realised. ;) Thanks! <font face="Trebuchet MS"> a s e nine say what?  17:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If it makes you feel any better, I completely missed a line when I went in to correct the indentation. D'oh! EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Further issues...
Could you take a look here? This was the recent RfA candidate in question. I'm not sure how user pages like this are handled... if some of the info there needs to be permanently deleted, or if the whole account is problematic because the user may not be in fact the real-life person they claim to be. I guess this is something I need to learn about, but in the mean-time, I thought I'd ask admin to see if anything needs to be done quickly. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:09, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've purged the edit from the page's history, and left a stern warning for the anon (with it being their only edit, I can't tell how dynamic their IP is, so a block might not do any good, and I'd rather see some more editing from them before I block them). At the very least, it was a probably copyvio. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. On this topic: when a user account is created with the user claiming to be a real-life person, with a real picture of said person shown, is this always OK? I am not doubting in this case that Bkerensa is the person he says he is, but what is to stop someone from looking up that name on a news search and creating a wikipedia account with such info? The concern that I have is potentially controversial real life people may draw others to come and post whatever nasty stuff they can find... as shown on that user:page and in the RfA. Hypothetically, if Bkerensa wasn't actually Kerensa, the real life person might be quite upset about such an account. Sorry if I'm getting too theoretical. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
 * One possibility would be to look up and contact a non-Wikipedia email for this person to verify that it's really them. I too have been left wondering whether this really is the real-life person it claims to be, or someone else trying to make that person look bad. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * [ec] It's a very fine line, and one dependent on many different factors. The primary factor here, though, is the fact that Benjamin Kerensa (the one mentioned in the article; to reduce confusion, I'll just call him Mr. Kerensa) doesn't have an article (non-notable), and I personally consider notability to be paramount when deciding whether a username is acceptable or not. If Mr. Kerensa had an article, I'd be a lot wearier of allowing Bkerensa to proclaim himself under the same name (though due to the difference in the exact name, I'd be inclined to allow it, as long as a specific declaration were made that Bkerensa was not the same as Mr. Kerensa).


 * Another factor that would normally come into play would be, for instance, how common the name is. I wouldn't jump all over User:John Smith as being John Smith (comics), though someone named User:Jimmy Smits would be a bit more actionable. Behavioral patterns matter as well; someone named User:Mbrooks editing Max Brooks would raise an eyebrow, whereas someone named User:Lhutton (see Lauren Hutton) editing Jair Iglesias is a lot less suspicious.


 * I'd also like to point out how much time it took me to find those samples. For example, I discovered that Carey goes straight to Jim Carey, and that pretty much every John Smith is dead, which almost completely wrecked my first example. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:48, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, good points. For me, in this case, I see two problems. Acknowledging that Mr. Kerensa is not notable enough for his own article, there is still personal info about Mr. Kerensa on user BKerensa's talk page. So, the username thing aside, there still might be BLP issues here (although the info is no defamatory). The other issue, as I briefly mention on David's page, is that the negative article about Mr. Kerensa was added by an ip, and after that there seems to have been ample time for BKerensa to have seen it and removed it, but he allowed it to stay. I'm not sure on this because it is now a deleted edit. Either way, it raises a red flag for me. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, about the personal info of Mr. Kerensa vs. BKerensa, that's largely a toss-up. I'm willing to assume good faith on that front, given the dearth of evidence against it being the same person. In such a case, it comes down to behavioral observations; BKerensa has done nothing to make people think he's the same Mr. Kerensa that was mentioned in the article. All he's done is mention his name (which lots of editors do, myself included, though my name is a bit more hidden away). If you hadn't brought that edit to my attention, I never once would have considered him to be anyone other than who he is, or that he had ever done anything of note (good or bad).


 * As for the time elapsed, you're spot on; the anon made that edit on February 10, a fact that had completely passed me by. There are many ways that something like that can skip by; a common one is too many items in the watchlist (something I hit constantly, as I currently have 2,662 in my list; sometimes it's easier for me to use my contribs page than my watchlist). In looking at Special:Contributions/Bkerensa, however, there was a massive break in edits between November 16, 2007 and May 9, 2008. An edit that happened in mid-February would have been pretty far past his watchlist's furthest listing (I just hit "all" on my own watchlist, and it only goes back a single month). I've taken little wiki-vacations before (unannounced), and despite being a seasoned wiki veteran, I certainly don't feel the compulsion to check out my own userpage (surprise surprise, I'm not quite that vain...), so I'm willing to bet it didn't occur to BKerensa, either.


 * There does seem to be something strange afoot, between the IP edit and the attack RfA, but I'm not entirely sure what it is, and with the elapsed time between the two, it might very well just be a red herring. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Username
What is wrong with my username? I don't understand your concern.

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 * The concern is the similarity to Ronald Reagan. Generally speaking, we don't allow usernames that are so close to the names of well known political figures. I'd recommend changing the username to something a bit more nondescript (even if it's your real name, sometimes using a pseudonym is better). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Indentation of UAA templates
I do indent them with a few colons, but for some reason they never show up that way. Daniel Case (talk) 18:22, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well... sure enough. My bad. I'll go hacking around with the template to figure out what the deal is. Sorry about that. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry; it wasn't personal. I figured there was some problem with the template, and given the TfD and my uneasy skill when fixing template problems (I can do it ... I just prefer when possible to leave it to those who are better at it), I wasn't about to fix it. Daniel Case (talk) 22:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, editing templates is a bit more nerve-wracking them editing articles; instead of screwing up one page, there's the possibility of screwing up hundreds! It's good times all around. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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This edit of mine was largely a mistake... I simply meant to add italics to Hulk. You accidently reverted the italics on that film when you reverted my entire change so I put the part I intended back. Sorry about the mix up.--Dr who1975 (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, simple enough mistake to make (I've done it myself). No harm, no foul. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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 * I'm ever so happy to see my code-related OCD-ness get translated into something that's actually beneficial somehow. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I am going to restyle it tomorrow morning, using the code you have helped with as a base. :) <em style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"> a s e nine <sup style="color:#72b5d9">say what?  22:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Nifty. Feel free to drop me a line if you want me to go over it again; the font tags are actually outdated these days, but the "right" way of doing it would have taken several more characters. Span tags are the way to go. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sweetaz
Sorry about that, I removed both names just as soon as you made your comment, and I think it overlapped. The edit summary wasn't directed at you. I was just flummoxed when I saw those reports. : ) Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 06:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries, I was thinking the exact same thing. When it comes to removing UAA reports, I'm of the mind that if one editor says it's not a violation and a second agrees, the second should just remove it; that's exactly what I did (in removing and commenting at the same time), and what you did as well, so I'm certainly not bothered by it. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I dropped the reporting user a note that the two weren't blatant violations. We certainly don't need to be biting the newbies. Ah well, UAA is always getting peppered with ambiguous names, one of the more tricky areas to work in methinks.  Wisdom89  ( T |undefined /  C ) 06:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there are lots of non-actionable reports that come through. I've got some 70+ edits to the bot page, mostly removing false positives... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't visit the names page too often, but I saw them and thought the same thing...Balloonman (talk) 14:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

My Recent Rfa
Although you opposed me in my recent RFA I will still say thanks as from your comments and the other users comments that opposed me I have made a todo list for before my next RFA. I hope I will have resolved all of the issues before then and I hope that you would be able to support me in the future. If you would like to reply to this message or have any more suggestions for me then please message me on my talk page as I will not be checking back here. Thanks again.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 16:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:EVILBastards.png listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:EVILBastards.png, has been listed at Images and media for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Arcayne  (cast a spell)  20:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC) I also don't think the suggested replacement images would be as encyclopedic, as it would only illustrate a single character (each of whom is already illustrated in their article), but I definitely think you should offer suggestions in the IfD itself so everyone else can weigh in (Wookiepedia is a great source for such imagery). And have no fear; though we disagree about this image, I'm not sitting and fuming over this, with thoughts like "Arcayne is such a jerk" running through my head. Just a friendly disagreement is all. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Meh, it probably took more time for you to list it for deletion than it did for me to just fix the problem with the license tag. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Feh, its a bad image that doesn't represent the actual subject; instead it represents an artists' rendering of what three tangential characters in the series look like. For clarity's sake, let's remember that the noted Sith characters of the franchise as Sidious, Maul, Dooku and Vader. Peripheral characters aren't as important. Seriusly, what was the problem with finding an image of Maul. It seems like those are, like, everywhere. How about Dooku or Sidious? How about Vader? - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  21:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I like this one because it portrays three of the most significant Sith Lords of varying times in the Star Wars storyline. I do agree that Bane and Sadow aren't as immediately recognizable, but the article itself doesn't focus solely on the eras that Sidious, Maul, Dooku, or Vader are significant in; this way, we've got a single image (thereby keeping down the number of Fair Use images being used on the article) that serves as a general overview of the entire concept. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * With respect (and I do mean that), I think that labeling them the "most significant Sith Lords" is traipsing down the speculation trail - a trip that we don't need to be making. I think I could track down an image of Sidious and Vader from RotJ (maybe with a li'l bit of force lightning for added flavor) or Maul with double-sided light-saber that would work just as well. The image from the back of the gaming book is not the best we could find. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  21:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it could be that I've got that phrase in my mind because that's the exact caption used for that image. :) (I don't have the gaming book itself, but I know I've seen that image in one of the numerous books about Star Wars comics) I need to track that book down and get a copy, if only so that I can properly source the comment.
 * Might it be possible that you saw the image in the Sith article for Wookieepedia? You are a member there, so maybe osmosis took place. And I am glad twe are simply disagreeing. I could always stand to learn more about our image policy; it just seems like the image isn't good for us to use here. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  21:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, I suppose it's possible that I read it there, but I'm almost dead certain that I didn't. Arg, where's a bookstore when I need one? :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Scorpion image
Thanks for changing it back. On a personal note, I hated that MK/DC picture. :)  Beemer 69  06:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was none too impressed with it. I'm hoping to standardize all the character images next week; I want to use the Armageddon versus imagery, so that everything will look the same. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mortal Kombat if you'd like to weigh in. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Adminship
What are the requirements for applying to become an adminstrator?-- Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (talk) 19:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, there aren't any hard-written requirements. However, candidates are expected to show an understanding of Wikipedia's policies on deletion (either through properly tagging pages for speedy deletion or through participation in the Articles for Deletion process), an ability to (positively) resolve disputes (or, rather, be able to work through them without resorting to name-calling and personal attacks, as well as varying levels of familiarity with out image policies (specifically, our fair-use policies) and a bit of vandalism fighting (which can come from reporting vandals to WP:AIV. A healthy number of edits helps too (generally, anything below two thousand is unlikely to pass).


 * Let me know if you have any other questions. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Re. For your sexy ass
Heh, thank you for the barnstar, EVula. :-) I'm glad to see that some users actually watchlisted Rhode Island. Sexy ass met its purpose. :-) Best regards, Hús  ö  nd  20:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ...if only every sexy ass could meet its purpose... *sigh* EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Pedantry
Thank you for indulging my slightly disturbing need for conformity. In return, I've fixed a Category: Living People page. I shall now return to alphabetising my spice rack... Orpheus (talk) 14:12, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, fantastic. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

E-mail
Sent. Acalamari 16:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Received. I'm about to head out to the after-party for Wikipedia Takes Nashville, so I'll respond to it tomorrow or so. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. Excellent. Acalamari 01:37, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes Nashville Images
Here's the cheat sheet for how to upload the images: User:Kaldari/WTN_cheatsheet. Kaldari (talk) 15:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Awesome. I'm about to pull all the images off the camera right now; I hope to start uploading them to Commons sometime between today and Wednesday (depending on how many other things pop up).


 * And those iPhone images look really good. I never would have guessed. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: For future reference
Hi, I know it's common practice, but I disagree with the usefulness of it, so I don't do it. As you could tell by looking at my talkpage, I don't enjoy getting templated spam messages; I've watchlisted the pages I've started and the messages are completely redundant. I used to leave notes to people when that fad started, but the comments the authors left were without fail about as useful as the first comment you left at the rfd discussion, so I just don't bother. But if I ever tag something you've started for deletion again, I'll let you know. - Bobet 12:17, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it's still a good practice (common courtesy and all), but the purely selfish part of me is content with knowing that you'll at least inform me of my stuff. :D EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:03, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Nomination
<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="rfb" style="margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px; background: #FFFAEF; border: 1px solid #999999; text-align: left; font-size:95%;"> Acalamari would like to nominate you to become a bureaucrat. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Acalamari to accept or decline the nomination. A page for your nomination at Requests for bureaucratship/ . If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
 * Let the week-long cycle of question answering begin! ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah...fun! :) Acalamari 16:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm disappointed...
You're still EVula! Balloonman (talk) 04:57, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm a version of EVula that obviously doesn't remember how much fun it was to answer a dozen questions. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that your RfB appears to be passing with flying colors---it saves me the effort of having to research you (see my essay on how I vote).Balloonman (talk) 06:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Commons admin vote
Just wanted to drop you a line that I'm running for adminship on Commons: commons:Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/Kaldari Kaldari (talk) 17:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the heads up, that probably would have zipped right by me (very little actual wiki work while my RfB is going). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Q18
Hi EVula - well, stick it to the man :) By "post", I meant bureaucrat, and "walk away" covers both recusing and not saying or doing anything, but you should how to appropriately answer it. <font face="Verdana"> Vishnava talk  18:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sweet, thanks. I hope to have the majority of my questions answered tonight... though it depends on how many clean clothes I have, and whether or not I remember to bring my laptop to the laundromat. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice, candid answers :) No trace of diplomacy or mincing of words. <font face="Verdana"> Vishnava talk  23:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I've found that life is easier if you don't try to fluff things up too much. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:58, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:WTN EVula 165.jpg
Image:WTN EVula 165.jpg looks a bit tilted to me. Might want to correct it, if that's the image we're going to use in the article. Kaldari (talk) 19:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Er, yeah, good call. I'll fix that at some point tonight. D'oh. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Question about single-user login
Dear EVula (as if you have nothing else to worry about...):

I'm considering signing up for single-user login, but my situation is a little complicated. I seek advice from someone who has done it before and understands how it works, and whom I trust. That's you. :)

The username "Shalom" is shared by three or four users across Wikimedia, myself included. I have more edits than the others, but I am not the oldest, and I don't want to ask other people to rename their accounts for me. That leaves two choices: (1) Forget it, who needs SUL anyway? It's a cool feature, but I survived this long without it. The main reason I'd like to have it is so that interwiki links could be attributed to me without my having to bother registering an account everywhere like you did. (2) Rename my username to something other than "Shalom."

That presents a couple of problems. First, I remember when Warlordjohncarter was renamed to User:John Carter it shut down the server for a few minutes because he had about 70,000 edits. I have about 22,000 edits plus another couple of thousand deleted edits, so I imagine renaming my account, and doing page-moves on my dozens of subpages, would cause a major headache for the servers and the bureucrat. Second, I have different accounts with different names all over the place. On Hebrew Wikisource I am still YechielMan (my old username here); on Hebrew Wikipedia I am שלום יחיאל; on Wikimedia Commons I am Shalom Yechiel; and on meta I am Shalom Hello. I'd need help from a steward who could go to all these wikis and do a pile of renames, if that's even possible. Asking local bureaucrats to do renames is more trouble than it's worth. (I could just abandon those accounts and let my SUL global account supersede them.)

Finally, I would have to choose whether to continue using a pseudonym - probably Shalom Yechiel - or to go with my real name, which is [redacted]. As I get more involved here, I like the idea of using my real name, and I have no reason to fear harmful consequences given the fact that my name and photo is already on my userpage for many months. But I'm not sure, and here too, friendly advice would be helpful.

I know this sounds really arcane, but I hope to stay here for awhile longer, and SUL could help me do it more effectively. Please reply on my talk page. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 22:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll respond to this later tonight. Just wanted to make sure you didn't think I was blowing you off. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:27, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you spam
Hi there - thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed 69/10/3 yesterday. I will put the tools to good use and hopefully justify the confidence you had in me. Best wishes and good luck for your RfB! Fritzpoll (talk) 11:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

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Commons uploading program for Mac
You mentioned on my talk page that someone had written a bulk uploading program for Mac. Any more details on that? Kaldari (talk) 16:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I used Commonist; it's not Mac-specific, but it's done in Java, so it's actually platform-independent. Didn't have some of the Mac niceties, which makes it a bit obnoxious to deal with, but it certainly gets the job done. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Random Question
How is an "I-can-do-it-all" stance counterproductive? (per Burn the Backlogs)

Oh, and best of luck on the RfB.  21655  ταλκ / 01ҁ 18:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's more of an attitude that you (or whoever) is the only person that can do absolutely everything. Wikis are a collaboration, not an opportunity for "army of one" fans to work their magic. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahhh. Yes, makes all sense. Thank'ee much!  21655  ταλκ / 01ҁ 21:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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Requested photo
Hello! I noticed that on your userpage you state that you are living in Nashville. Would you be willing to take and upload a photo of the Nashville Tennessee Temple? It would be much appreciated. —Remember the dot (talk) 01:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't make any guarantees about when I can take the picture, but I'd be more than happy to do so. I know exactly where it is, too; I pass it every once and a while. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Whenever you can take it is fine, I've searched Flickr and doubt I'll find a suitable photo there anytime soon. —Remember the dot (talk) 03:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Quoted
A little late, but I was busy fiddling with subpage names and collapse formats, all that jizz. Anyway, I've added you to my list of Favorite Quotes. I would have added the rabbit one, but it might jepordize your RfB. ;-) -- Koji †  Dude  (C) 02:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankfully it'll be done in a couple of days, so you can add it then. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Careful Consideration of Drowning Rabbits
Careful consideration is what brats need!  &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  02:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed, drowning rabbits without thinking beforehand (such as "what shall I drown them in?", "what types of rabbits will I be drowning?", etc) is something we should never deal with. All sorts of problems arise from that. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Alas, you forgot (Will the momma come back to the nest before all is said and done?) You gotta think of these things! (Neutral(JK)) &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  06:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Start with the momma and voila, you don't have to concern yourself with it. Easy as pie! EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!
I'm jumping the gun here as you haven't been told yet, but I saw it on my watchlist and wanted to be the first to say Congrats on being promoted to Crat! Now stop reading this you bum and get to work :D. Congrats again! <font face="Ravie"> D u s t i complain/compliment 03:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it'd be pretty bad for me to just sit here and not do anything now that I've gone through all that work. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So, are you interested in Admin Coaching? <font face="Ravie"> D u s t i complain/compliment 16:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Crat
Congratulations. :) &mdash; Maggot Syn 03:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

You are now a bureaucrat
Third time's the charm... I have just closed your RfB as successful and made you a bureaucrat. Congratulations! WjBscribe 03:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This is excellent! Congratulations from me, EVula! I was proud to nominate you, and I am immensely pleased that you passed! Good luck! Acalamari 03:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats! You'll do great. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 03:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats.  Keegan talk 03:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * :) Daniel (talk) 03:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Many, many thanks everyone. Now, off to promote socks to 'crat! ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Great job. By the way, can you *wink* do an old friend a favor?  bibliomaniac 1  5  05:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Where's my money? :P EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. Now go promote some bots. ;) Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 05:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Pfft, renames are where it's at for now. :P EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Concrats. Hahaha so clever on word play.  &lt;3  Tinkleheimer   TALK!!  05:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats on becoming a bearcat. We'll be holding you to your campaign promise. ~ <font color="#000000"> mazca talk 06:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well done sir. Now, I need a rogue + sysop --> User:SonOfPedro - :) Pedro :  Chat  07:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats! This means we get to hold you responsible for everything that goes wrong now, right? -- jonny - m  t  08:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good stuff! :) Anthøny  10:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 10:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent news!! Well done indeed, Ev :) Delighted it went through - yayy!! - A<font color="#FF7C0A">l is o n  ❤ 10:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC) (now I can get all those rouge renamings done :D )
 * Oh, and lolz @ your new userbox: "This user has been a bureaucrat for 1 day." - heh - A<font color="#FF7C0A">l is o n  ❤ 10:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I think your promotion will be a particularly good move by the Wikipedia community. Congradulations good sir. &#9775;Ferdia O'Brien (T) / (C) 10:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats. And if I may add to the silly suggestions, I think you should go close Giggy's RfA early as "WTF" ++Lar: t/c 10:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well done! (And btw, no worries about the question - it was asked pretty late on, and wasn't the easiest of questions - good to know you'll be participating).  Al Tally  talk  11:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * EVula is a the shit 'crat.  Keeper   |   76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  14:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support. I've been impressed by EVula's tact and - wait, am I too late? Tan   |   39  14:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Contragulations, EVula! Good work ^_^ ≈  The Haunted Angel  15:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Great work. I was sure it finished tomorrow though? :) Anywho, congratulations! Good luck. Rudget   (Help?) 16:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh the joys of UTC. Tomorrow's promotions, today! EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * :P Rudget   (Help?) 16:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you realize you have a golden opportunity here. Your support level in the community is at an all-time high. However, you have only a small window before people start hating you for doing your new job. I recommend this moment for rushing out and implementing ill-considered, radical chances to the RFA process. You know you want to. Friday (talk) 16:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ...the devil on my shoulder now has a definitive name. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats. Your first duty is on June 5th, deciding on DHMO's RfA all on your own. I'm sure there will be no controversy over this, good way to get started :)) Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 16:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. Just in time for jumping into the deep end. Agathoclea (talk) 16:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations EVula :). Sorry I missed the nom :(. Now stop lazing around and do some 'cratly duties! *teehee* <i style="font-family:comic sans ms; color:purple;">¤~Persian Poet Gal</i> <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 16:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) Support I s'pose I'm too late too. Oh well, go out an' rename people an' stuff.  S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 18:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Well done EVula, it just goes to show perseverance can be very successful. I wish you luck and I hope to see you around using the 'crat tools. Camaron | Chris (talk) 20:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

ConCRATulations on your successful RfB, EVula! :-) What, no new tools yet? Here are your squeegee, sponge and chalk! Use them wisely! Festive regards, Hús  ö  nd  22:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

yay 1 <font color="Green"> !=  2  23:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * My heartiest congrats! Now you have a good excuse to tell your boss if he catches you. <font face="Verdana"> Vishnava talk  23:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congrats. Now change your mop icon to a crat icon! <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 00:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, well deserved! — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 02:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, congrats! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. Sorry to get my support in late this time, but you'll do a great job. MastCell Talk 16:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! spam! Antonio Lopez (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC) Ah, of course. EVula is just the sort of person who we need to be a 'crat. Excellent. <font face="times new roman"> hmwith τ   20:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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Just a note
To say "get well soon" to your best friend. Hope he or she gets better fast. <font color=#cccc33>weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. She is doing better, but I'm still concerned. I've made several offers to help take care of her even more (just a bit short of moving in with her); if she acquiesces, I'll be around all the less, but that just means I'll have an explosion of activity once she's healed up. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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Re AFD closure
Hey I'm cool about it. As long as the community are OK about me nominating things for deletion if at first inspection they appear to be non-notable, I don't have a problem with what the community does with them after that. -- Roleplayer (talk) 22:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC) For what it's worth, I agree that stuff that appears non-notable should get chucked up on AfD. I may not be the entire community, but at least I am okay with it. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Groovy, glad there were no hard feelings over it.
 * Cool. -- Roleplayer (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Heya
Could you jump on IRC for a second - I need two renames which are a tad irregular :) Cheers, Daniel (talk) 04:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can't at the moment; preoccupied by stuff related to my message in the header. :( EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, autoscroll to bottom strikes again. Hope everything improves and resolves itself nicely. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 05:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

SUL
Hey EVula-

I am trying for unified login. Could you change my username to Ioscius? (my signature already reflects this, but the username is User:Josh Rocchio). Thanks! --Ioscius (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! --Ioscius (talk) 21:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Courtesy Notification regarding my recall criteria
Hiya. Just a courtesy note to say I've named you as one of the editors that I would accept a request for recall from. There's nothing onerous about it, and you don't have to do anything. It's simply to let you know that as I have added myself to CAT:AOR I needed some unfussed criteria for recall, and I believe your judgement fits that criteria neatly. Thanks! Pedro : Chat  10:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm honored, but I'd be surprised if I ever needed to execute this ability. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you so much for changing my username! I really appreciate it. N-k 02:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Delete my former account
Hey ! Could you delete my former account, Jordangirardin ? Thank you !! Jordan Girardin, 07:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Accounts can't be deleted, only renamed. Sorry. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:18, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * I'm sorry! I totally forgot about you. Should I give you a cookie? Or a hug? <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 21:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If that's the worst thing that happens to me in the coming week, I'll be very, very happy. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Gotta Question for ya
I've been looking at my possibilities on Wikipedia, and I was wondering about the Checkuser status. I know that its not a wideley given status, and only a few have it, but I think I could be of help in that area. What do you know about it? What do you think about me having the access? <font face="Segoe script"> D u s t i SPEAK!! 15:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Checkuser is a very, very closely guarded userright. I've played around with it on other wikis, and it's very powerful; allows you to see the IPs for users and whatnot, which can effectively limit the amount of anonymity editors enjoy. There's also a fair amount of technical knowledge required before the bit is granted as well (such as being able to tell the difference between open proxies, dynamic and static IPs, etc). I don't think you'd be able to get the bit, but that's mostly because usually the editors that are granted access have been around for a very long time (as well as being an administrator here, and usually active on other Wikimedia projects as well). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I wanted to check with you before I went any further. I think I'll just stick with my little rollback tool for now :), unless you have any other thoughts? <font face="Segoe script"> D u s t i SPEAK!! 15:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nah, that's probably the best track to take; working on protecting and improving the encyclopedia is always a good thing to do. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan to me :). Thanks! <font face="Segoe script"> D u s t i SPEAK!! 15:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Your help is needed determining the consensus
Hello, I am Atyndall and I am one of the Mediation Cabal's informal mediator. Currently I have taken on a case regarding the naming of the Burma/Myanmar article here. I have decided, after realizing that the article has to be named either Burma or Myanmar, that I need to get everyone to list their opinions and determine the consensus (which I have done here. The problem is, to put it bluntly, I would find it very hard to determine the consensus on this issue as both sides have equally good arguments. So I was wondering, if, after 13:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC) (exactly 14 days after the first post) you could evaluate the consensus (along with another 2 'crats) at that page (as crats are good at, having to deal with RfAs) and list and try to detail why you think this at the top of the page in the section provided? Please do not feel obliged to do so, if you are busy I can ask someone else, but please let me know. Thankyou very much and happy editing :-) Atyndall93 | talk 00:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to help, but (a) that week is going to be very spotty for me and (b) as the most junior bureaucrat, I feel like I need to cut my teeth on some RfAs before gauging consensus elsewhere. If you can't get a more "senior" bureaucrat to assist, I'll gladly step up to the plate, but I just want to make sure you get the best three you can. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for your honesty, the issue is very long and confusing, so I think it will require some experienced crats. Thankyou anyway. Atyndall93 | talk 01:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Two requests
Hi EVula, I noticed you've done your first sysop userrights change. :) Congratulations. Anyway, I wanted to ask that, when you promote someone, you consider the following requests:


 * 1) When in Special:Userrights, before flipping the switch and making someone an administrator, ensure that other userrights (rollbacker, accountcreator, etc) are unchecked.
 * 2) When informing someone that they've been promoted, give them a link to Administrators' reading list and New admin school.

Evidently, both of these are optional, but point 1 ensures that other admins don't remove redundant rights after you've promoted someone, and point 2 is helpful for new admins. In the meantime, however, keep up the great bureaucrat work you've been doing. :) Acalamari 22:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Duly noted on the first one. On the second one, I realized that I had a fairly lackluster "you've been promoted" message; I need to whip up a nice bit o' boilerplate that mentions those links. Thanks for the heads up; it was nice to finally close a successful RfA. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the consideration and response! Very much appreciated. Acalamari 23:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Protection of Triffid
Wow that was fast. Nice work. Probably shouldn't put his name in the protection log though. --Selket Talk 03:58, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No real reason not to; the protection log isn't readily seen by the average user, so there's no beanish reason to avoid using the simplest explanation of why it got protected. It's probably not needed, but I rush to my computer whenever he mentions Wikipedia... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was thinking about it from the deny recognition perspective. Can you imagine if word got out about a "Colbert Block"?  Not a big deal either way, just my $.02. --Selket Talk 08:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Eh, I'm a pretty vocal critic of WP:DENY. Worrying about "word getting out" can cause admins to be less effective; doing the job is more important. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit Conflicts
Yeah guess you did that seconds before I game him the final. Congrats on your recent successful RFB BTW. « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite Cøøkie  13:39, 19 June 2008 (UTC) Thanks for the RfB congrats. I really need to get my thank you spam out the door... I had real life crap flare up immediately afterwards, so it delayed me quite a bit. Things have calmed down for now, though... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I'm eerily fast at this sort of thing. Not your fault. ;)

Revert?
Er ... did you really mean to revert this back in ... ? --Kralizec! (talk) 13:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was rolling back all of 86.106.241.102's edits. I didn't even click on that page, I just went from the links on the IP's contribs. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You're active!
It's my lucky day, it seems :) Could you please rename to, say, "Davelilly (usurped)"? See also this ticket. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 15:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (I'll reply, if you like. On IRC if there's any issues. Ta, Daniel (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC))
 * Can't do IRC, since I'm at work, but I can do email. I'll get to this in a bit; I only hopped on Wikipedia to check something for the website I'm working on (turns out that we don't have an article for immunopathogenesis. shucks.). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, no worries. Doesn't seem to be a time-sensitive ticket anyways. I've locked it to you (feel free to lock it to me if you want me to reply). Daniel (talk) 15:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Works for me. I'll jump on it later tonight, since it's not especially crucial. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Aloha!
You have email. Mahalo. --Ali'i 18:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Vandalism watch
Template:Vandalism watch has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 22:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

awesome

 * EVula is too awesome

How do you read that? :) - Revolving Bugbear  18:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Pfft, I read that everywhere. It's tightly related to our most important policy. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Blocked ! - Question
Just discovered I was indefinite blocked !! thanks for restoring. I was trying to repair a cut and paste move by deleting to make way for a page move - just checking did I do it wrong? MilborneOne (talk) 15:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I completely and utterly overreacted to an automated notice. I really can't apologize enough for the mistake. :( EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem - just checking I didnt do anything wrong. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 15:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Nope nope, it's all on me. Sorry for not dropping you a line directly, but I got asked template questions at roughly the same time. Again, I apologize. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Name Change
Thanks for doing it :) -- fone 4  me  15:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Question
Does this edit look legit to you? I'm confused. <font face="Segoe script"> D u s t i SPEAK!! 15:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Very strange, yes, but if you look at the block log, that IP has been blocked for five years as an open proxy. Strange, but legit. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Note about your rename request; action required
Hi my unified account has been deleted. Please help me do the rename process. Thanks a lot.--Mywood2004 (talk) 15:57, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Block request
76.180.164.8 I could not have guessed where else to request this. If I have to remove Samuel L. Jackson from MK/DC's roster again, I quit. Heh. You're easily my favorite admin so...hope. -- Kombat Krave  4:10, June 23, 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, by now it looks like he's no longer on that IP, so there's not much I can do (I can block it, but it wouldn't actually hit him). I'll keep a closer eye on it...


 * Also, having SLJ as a character would be awesome. :D EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:56, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Archive
Hi EVula,

Would it be possible if you could restore my former archives which were deleted awhile ago due to me leaving temporarily they can be found at User talk:Terra/Archives, if available Ter ra  17:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Er... I restored, but I'm not seeing them. The history says deleted edits are there, but when I click the link, it says I've restored them. What the hell did I do? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You may need to restore them one by one - User talk:Terra/Archives/2008/January - User talk:Terra/Archives/2008/February - User talk:Terra/Archives/2008/March - User talk:Terra/Archives/2008/April - User talk:Terra/Archives/2008/May, see if that works, if it does then the red links would probably be restored.  Ter ra  20:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll do it a bit later today; I'm at work, and only saw that I had new messages when I went to check on something (boo on not being bored at work these past few weeks). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ (finally) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Ter ra  17:10, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm
Back again, it seems. However, although I am personally loathed to see him having a full account on Wikipedia as he once did, I feel I must ask if his block is indefinite? ≈  The Haunted Angel  01:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Damn, sorry I missed the fun. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that's odd - I appear to have given you the wrong edit diff - here's the right one. ≈  The Haunted Angel  15:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you gave me the "current" diff, which always changes to be, well, current. :) Thankfully, the little bugger is kind enough to keep "brit" in his name, so a quick perusal of your talk page's history let me see who it was. I'm tempted to see if we can block his IP to keep him from returning. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

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RfA Review
Hello. I've noticed that you have a completed set of responses to the RfA Review question phase at User:EVula/RfA review, but they don't seem to be included on the list of responses here. If you've completed your responses, please can you head to RfA Review/Question/Responses and add a link to them at the bottom of the list so that they get included in the research. We have a closing date of midnight UTC on 1st July, so please add your link before this date. Once again, thank you for taking the time to participate in the Question Phase of RfA Review.<b style="color:green;">Gazimoff</b> <sup style="color:blue;">Write <sub style="color:black;">Read 12:01, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * ...yeah, probably not going to happen, too much other stuff that's a bit more pressing. Bugger. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:06, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Changing my Username
I've now signed in to my user account that I have requested to be changed to a different username, although I thought I was originally signed in when I requested the change. Could you possibly please complete the name change now? Thanks Taylor159370, 12:39, 28 June 2008, UTC.
 * ✅ EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)