User talk:EVula/Jul-Sept 2007

This archive contains comments posted between July 2007 and September 2007.

EVula's Lair
Hi EVula;

Just wanted to say that I really loved your website way back when I was a preteen obsessed with Escape Velocity. I was 'Entropy' back on the Ambrosia message boards. Fun stuff!

Antidespotic 01:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Just adding a "me too". Surprised you haven't edited either of the original two EV pages. --IanOsgood 02:38, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I keep meaning to head over to the EV pages, but never quite make it... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome, I love it when I get recognized around here. :)

RfB
Hello EVula. I'm sorry about your unsuccessful RfB. Please don't be discouraged and keep up your excellent work, humor and stamina. Maybe in a few months your new RfB will have a different outcome. Still proud of you, Hús  ö  nd  00:21, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Oh well. The good news is that there was quite obviously a fair amount of support (roughly 76%; though shy of 90%, I'm still pleased with it), both for me and apparently the idea of getting some fresh blood in the 'crat ranks. I'm fairly confident that if I work on the issue(s) raised in my RfB (which I still need to fully tabulate and document for my own benefit) I could make 'crat by the end of the year. ;) Also, Husond? The "I'm proud of you" bit totally makes every day I read it that much better. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry it didn't work out this time around. Hopefully we'll see a different result the next time you run. I hope you're feeling OK about this and that you're not too discouraged. Shine on! Riana ⁂  00:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Not discouraged per se, though it is frustrating (partly because some of it is my fault, but other stuff.. not so much). I definitely think the RfB process is a bit screwy, in that it's an audition for a position that not everybody agrees on how it should be fulfilled. One of my opposes was because I was going to treat RfAs like discussions, rather than votes... which is exactly what I thought it was. Even on WP:CRAT, it says that RfAs should be closed using "your best judgement". Gah.

I'd like to congratulate you for taking the effort to run an impossible gauntlet. I assume it was to test it out? :) I wanted to be a crat at one point, but I decided against it, because I forgot to preview a talkpage message once and I made a typo during an edit. Seriously, though, anything over 50 percent in an RfB is amazing. &mdash; Deckiller 02:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) We'll see how I feel in a few months. :) And yes, I'm totally pumped about the total amount of support I had... it's definitely one of the reasons I feel like I could make a successful run again after I address the concerns. I've already asked Nearly Headless Nick if I could approach him directly and get his feedback about whether I've improved in his opinion, and I plan on asking a select few other opposers (preferably ones I haven't interacted with much before) so I can more accurately gauge whether I'm improving or not (the last thing I want to do is go through another RfB if it's just going to fail; I found that I was a lot less active as an editor and administrator if I kept spending time answering questions et al). Visviva's advice about participating in mediation has also piqued my interest; I think that'd be good experience for me, even if I don't bother with a second RfB. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I really would like to be a 'crat, if for no other reason that to (a) assist with username-related backlogs (b) bring some fresh blood to the ranks, and (c) to bring some actually active editors to the 'crat ranks. Don't get me wrong, they are obviously somewhat active (otherwise RfA would be backlogged severely), but I can't say that I've ever seen more than two or three of them actually edit anywhere (or maybe I just don't cross paths with them). The bureaucrats are about the only thing we have to a caste on Wikipedia (well, maybe ArbCom, but even they are somewhat different). I really would like to help eliminate that sense, though I have to admit I've vacillated back and forth several times during the RfB process about whether or not I actually did want the position. I keep coming back to "yes", though... *shrug*
 * Hey, if you like the idea of mediation, there's a bit of a backlog currently at WP:RfM. You could ask Daniel if you could help out with a case - he's already paid persuaded me to take one on :) Riana ⁂  02:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, it's nothing I can take care of right now; I've got a show that opens on July 20th, so I need to learn my lines pronto (we just had our first rehearsal Wednesday). It shouldn't effect my editing too much, though I'll certainly be a bit less active; certainly too active to get myself involved in a time-consuming process that I'm unfamiliar with. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to see you didn't pass, EVula (even though I opposed I secretly wanted you to pass). Having a failed request is not so bad anyway; you can definitely learn from it and try again some day.  Majorly  (talk) 00:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's how I'm choosing to look at it. I've got a nice "to do" list of things I need to address at User:EVula/admin/RfB notes, though I still need to finish it up. Sadly, I've got an absolutely insane rehearsal schedule for a show I'm doing, so I'll probably be fairly busy until August; I'm going to finally get around to thanking all the RfB participants, and then become a hermit... heh, if I had passed RfB, I immediately would have fit right in with all the other inactive 'crats. :D EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry it didn't pass. That was the first RFB I voted on, and I didn't realize how much harder it is to pass than an RFA. I hope you decide to run again in a few months, as I'm sure I'll support that one too.  Black Harry  (Highlights|Contribs) 02:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I most certainly will. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Missed it! Oh well, I hope to be there supporting next time around. Cheers, Anonymous Dissident  Talk 04:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I think next time I'll actually edit my main userpage to make a note; the banner went on User:EVula/header, which I'd be fairly surprised if anyone has watchlisted. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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Comments
I left some comments at User talk:EVula/admin/RfB notes about your RfB. Waltontalk 13:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC) I will respond to it, just not right now; as my wikibreak note mentions, my wikitime is shrinking at an alarming rate... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! I wasn't expecting that much feedback so quickly. :)

Your RfB
Hello EVula, you're welcome for the support in your RfB. Don't worry too much about it; just do what I did when my first RfA ended at no consensus: listen to what the opposition said, and try to improve on where you think you went wrong. I hope this helps. :) Acalamari 16:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Most definitely. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry about your Rfb failing. I would like to offer the same advice that Acalamari offered, take a look at your oppose votes and learn from what they have to say. Have a nice week and God bless:)--†Sir James Paul† 17:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

my rfa
can you help finish it up? it's taking forever.--D-Boy 21:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you mean? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:40, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Revert question
Hi! I see you rolled back my edit, and commented that it "broke" several things. I reviewed carefully before and after the edit, and didn't see anything amiss. I'd like to be educated, so that I might avoid causing unintentional harm in the future. Could you please tell me specifically what I broke? Thanks! 67.189.48.7 20:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! For starters, the image in the header was changed from a legit link to a broken one (your edit made it Image:Movie_poster_the_shawshank_redemption.jpg, as opposed to Image:ShawshankRedemptionMoviePoster.jpg). I also removed several minor additions, such as commas and disambiguation text ("1994 movie" vs. "1994 American movie", and linking to Air Force One vs. Air Force One (film)). Two interwiki links, hr:Iskupljenje u Shawshanku and tr:Esaretin Bedeli, were also lost, while the French link went from fr:À l'ombre de Shawshank to fr:Les Évadés (film, 1994). There is some additional text that was restored, but I'm not entirely sure if it should stay or not; I left that for another editor. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:06, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow. I'm not sure how I missed all that (all I really did was revert to a previous version), but thanks for catching it.  I'll have to be a lot more careful with reverts.  FWIW, I am very impressed that you took the time to reply to my question so thoroughly.  You are an example to admins everywhere. 67.189.48.7 21:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about missing it; it happens to plenty of people. :) The trick is to not only use the preview button, but also the "Show changes" button; I've used it many times and caught mistakes before I hit save. Very handy. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:16, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

My dear E
My dear E, I cannot, and mos def will not, leave your beautiful message of gratitude for my modest support to you unreplied! ;) I know it's in your nature to take the downsides with good spirited humour, and for that, you have my everlasting admiration... and my support at as many RfBs as it takes you to pass! ;) As for the sheer block of awesomeness part, well... I hardly doubt I could ever be anywhere near as awesome as you, and I mean as an editor, as an admin, and as a person. I only hope we get to talk more in the future (once you triumph once again on the stage and return to us, mere mortals, on wiki! ;) and continue to build together this newborn friendship that we share. Have a beautiful day, dear E! Love, Phae d r i e l  - 23:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I hope you realize that you've got a prominent place on my "List of Wikipedians that I'd love to actually meet". My day wasn't bad before I read this, but it certainly got all the better after. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I want to mention your actions as a SYSOP in an arbcom case
Hello EVula, First I'm really sorry I missed Your RfB; I know we had a disagreement on L. Ron Hubbard and the military but I do consider you an excellent admin and think you should try again.

The reason I'm posting is that I've become involved in Requests for arbitration/COFS, and want to cite as evidence the time a while ago when you blocked either Misou or COFS and were subsequently bombarded with requests to reconsider and accusations of bad faith from CSI LA, Justanother, etc. as a result of your involvement. (In case you prefer I don't cite the example, I haven't researched the specifics yet.)

I intend to show that several editors who share the same WP:COI have a proportionally larger impact than one or two. However,I felt it would be best to ask you before proceeding. Anynobody 05:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * By all means, feel free to cite diffs and logs I was involved in. POV-pushing accounts are extremely dangerous to the project; if I can have some level of involvement in their removal ("they" being POV accounts in general, not these specific editors), I'm all for it. :)
 * And don't worry about the L. Ron Hubbard bit... I didn't even remember it. Trust me, you have to get a lot worse before you're on my enemies list. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I really appreciate your help, if you had said no I would've respected that and gone to the next person on my list for a prime example. Here's what I said. If I've misrepresented the situation in any way please let me know. Anynobody 07:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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 * Bugger. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol. Viridae Talk 13:33, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Warning to 69.120.121.25
Firstly, as a long time user and sometime editor of Wikipedia, a review of policy leads me to believe no such policy as stated in your warning is outlined anywhere.

Secondly, 69.120.121.25 is a public access portal, so you've given a needless warning to virtually everyone (I think) in the Midwest US who uses this specific service, and also uses Wikipedia.

I have kids, and they are questioning why this warning comes up every time they attempt to use Wikipedia. Some of my neighbors are experiencing the same issue. I would personally appreciate it if this warning were removed. Thank you.

PS -- I am not attaching a signature so you can note that this post comes from the IP in question, but this is not the household to which it is directed. That's my point...your policing is appreciated, but it has excess consequences that are disruptive. Thanks, again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.121.25 (talk • contribs)
 * Well... the only way to handle anon. vandalism is to warn, and then block if it continues. I'm not particularly inclined to stop doing that, despite the fact that sometimes that yes, it falls upon deaf (and incorrect) ears (er, well, I guess eyes...). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! :-)
I was going to WP:SNOW that RfA. You spoiler. :-) Regards, Hús  ö  nd  15:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I know, I never let anyone have any fun. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

You probably already know, and it's probably part of your evil plans to take over the world, but in case you haven't realised....
This is a private video. So I don't get to see you get called a lug head. :( G1ggy  (t 07:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. I didn't even get a chance to save a local copy... :( EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 07:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * So you can't see it either? That sucks :(  Giggy  UCP 04:46, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Still
I am still mad at you for blocking me. Why are you blocking people forever? Why do you think you can do whatever you want? Why are you such an upstart? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.81.185 (talk • contribs)
 * That was over a month ago. Let it go. At this point, I don't even remember why I blocked you... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Move
I moved it because I didn't think that your user name should be in the title. If I am missing something than please forgive my mistake and undo the change. Senorelroboto 03:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * My username was in the title because it was in userspace. It was moved out of the main article space because it failed AfD. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:14, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Personal Attack

 * Heh, you noticed :P Thanks for that, I will cherish it always.  Giggy  UCP 06:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Question
User:EngagedReferee is requesting an image on the Evil Dead article. Generally, there isn't a problem with this, but this users choice of reasoning for this image is what strikes me as possible disruption. If you check the history, he's repeatedly added and readded the exact same information. I couldn't find an appropriate warning template to give, and maybe they shouldn't get one at all. In the least, their request is extremely juvenile, and the fact that they refuse to at least adjust their wording makes it hard to assume good faith about their comment.  BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  12:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It looks like the account has backed off some, but the anon editor blanking the discussion is very disturbing. I've told the editor to cut it out; if it keeps going, I have no problem indefinitely blocking them for disruption (a bit draconian, perhaps, but there's very little chance for a reversal of their attitude). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe they've been on Wikipedia longer than their account visually shows, because the user seems to have a good understanding of where to find warning templates to "warn" me about supposedly making personal attacks.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  12:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Bleh, I've been dealing with a similar situation on the Leia article, with someone repeatedly expanding the bit about the golden bikini in RotJ and, even more disturbingly, her temporary enslavement.
 * Thank you for commenting. I decided to let the registered editor try and make a legitimate point about the inclusion of the image on the article's talk page. It was only recently that they made the accusation that the scene is what makes the film famous, though they couldn't provide a reliable source saying so, and I informed them that their initial reasoning for inclusion of the image made it hard to assume good faith about their intentions. I noticed the anon blanking it afterward, and I don't know if that's the same person just frustrated about the discussion.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  16:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed the blanking... my immediate thought (AGF be damned) is that it was the same editor, just not logged in, but a simple revert is all that is needed (and since it's a destructive edit you're reverting, there's no 3RR vio). I've got it watchlisted, but my list currently weighs in at about 1,800 items (I really need to trim it back), so it's entirely possible that I may not catch further edits from him/them; feel free to drop me a line if a bit more administrative action is needed. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

In the butt, Bob!
Oh man, that cracked me up EVula lol. Good redirect ;). Jmlk  1  7  04:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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 * Hot damn, I was quoted in the Signpost (and in the very first article listed, no less). Go me! EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Your header template
I have taken a copy of your header template for modification on my pages. Is that acceptable to you? Obviously I won't use it if you prefer not but its very appealing because of its very clean appearance. Thanks  Jody B talk 17:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's fine with me. You're the second person to use it; I take it as a compliment. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:42, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Great thanks!  Jody B talk 19:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

FYI, you seem to have an impersonator
See. I must have missed when IP users were given block buttons. ;) -- Big ΔT 03:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha, very nice. That's the same warning I left on User talk:210.50.215.190. Gotta love vandals. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Admin abuse!!11!
Look maybe you enjoy periods on your sentences but you have no right to enforce this on other people!! If you do not immediately flog yourself, I'm gunna complain some more!! Friday (talk) 22:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Pfft, I'm way ahead of you on the flogging myself bit... er, I mean, uh... crap. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:58, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for taking the time to participate in my recent RfA, which did not succeed. I appreciate the helpful comments! Regards,  Neranei  T / C 16:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

MK:D
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Thanks
Thanks for that revert; I tried to rollback the edit but conflicted! There was a page I semi-protected a few minutes ago, and I think it's a sock of a user who was disrupting the page I semi-protected. Acalamari 20:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Me fast like ninja. Editor has been blocked and everything. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks; they didn't last long: 7 minutes total. Acalamari 20:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Would you be interested in joining the Wikipedia Crime Project?
I have seen that you like to contribute to serial killer articles I am trying to organize a task force on this subject under WikiProject Criminal Biography. If you would be interested in joining contact me. Thanks, Jmm6f488 19:34, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll pass; I'm not particularly interested in the subject, and have only gotten involved in some of those articles as a result of my vandal-smashing activities. Thanks though. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Question about problematic user
Hi there EVula. I am another user who has had the misfortune of crossing paths with User:DreamGuy. Well, actually, s/he initiated our “run in” when he removed the content of an entire article of mine (which I spent considerable time researching and cited heavily), claiming it was a WP:FORK and calling my contribution “worthless”. Apparently, he is allowed to completely ignore the WP:Deletion process and didn’t even make an attempt to merge. Regardless of my experience, I find that it is impossible to work productively together with DG. Judging by his/her list of blocks, crudeness and past history, I assume that I am not the only person who has had this problem. Honestly, I just want to leave the whole thing behind and avoid this user entirely, but s/he keeps initiating personal attacks and accusing me of ridiculous things (note: I have never been blocked or accused of violations like this before…which cannot be said for User:DreamGuy). It is surprising to me that nothing more serious can be done about this user besides countless temporary blocks even though he is obviously belligerent and likes to have personal vendettas against other users (WP:DICK). I find this to be a significant flaw in the process. My question is: do you have any suggestions on what I should do? I’d greatly appreciate any input in this matter. Oh and I’d prefer not to sign in, in fear that DreamGuy will come after me for making this edit. Regards, 145.236.110.178 11:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * (note) This same message was posted at my own talkpage, and I replied there. Though Evula, you're of course welcome to add anything else, I thought I'd save you some time in case I already covered things.  ;) --Elonka 17:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering how tight on time I am these days, I'm more than comfortable to just say "see what Elonka said". :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

RFA closure
EVula, I reverted your closure of Requests for adminship/Caldorwards4 2 as only 'crats are supposed to close them, and it's still early to close it. Would you please remove your msg from the candidate's talk page?--Chaser - T 05:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC) Considering how rarely I ever close fully failed RfAs, I'm not particularly concerned. I've closed plenty of RfAs (primarily the obvious ones for editors with less than a hundred edits, etc.) without complaint, so unless I actually have a 'crat say "don't do it", I fail to see where the problem lies. There's no way in hell I'd touch anything under over 50% anyway. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC) If I knew it was going to raise this much of a stink, I wouldn't have done anything; heaven forbid I help out... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Er, it came up as red on Bureaucrats' noticeboard/RfA Report, meaning that it was past its closure time. Furthermore, it doesn't take a 'crat to realize that a support ration of 40% is a failed RfA. You don't have to be a 'crat to close such an obvious RfA; please revert your revert (I don't feel like edit warring over such a silly thing :P). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * He can't, I did. Viridae Talk 05:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well anyway...--Chaser - T 06:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) I'm sorry. I was confused about the end time. That's my mistake. I probably wouldn't have reverted you if I'd known it was, in fact, past end-time. I agree that it's clearly not going to pass, but I'm not sure what to do now in light of Miranda's post to the candidate's talk page. Frankly, if it weren't for the new post, I'd revert myself. Anyway, see this old WT:RFA post. Redux, at least, really hates it when non-crats close requests.--Chaser - T 06:04, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, Miranda's plenty welcome to get peeved about it, though I'd be happier if she was at least accurate. Oh well, bad blood there anyway. *shrug* It's too late in the evening for me to get worked up about it. :)
 * You must mean over 50%. And yes, I do the under 100 edit ones, as well, especially after they've clearly been snowed.--Chaser - T 06:11, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Er, yeah, I meant over. And now I reference the previous "it's too late in the evening" comment; I obviously need to go to bed. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict X 2) Encourage the candidate in order to improve. Close the nomination under snow (put this in the summary). Make a non-biased remark on how the candidate needs to improve and encourage him to run again in a couple of months. If you don't see them on wiki, crats are generally online. Just the other day, I saw Taxman on IRC during this time.   Mi r a n da   06:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I did encourage the candidate to improve. And no, I didn't close the RfA as a snowballed case, I closed it as proper RfA procedure; supplements to IAR aren't needed when the proper procedure itself is valid. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:16, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I do think that snow is a part of the ignoring all rules process. I did not say that you didn't say the words to the candidate. Yes, I agree, it's late in some parts of the country. However, I do believe that everyone makes mistakes, and we should not be holding grudges about them, as to what you said above about me. What I think best is for now at least is to make a note on the RFB board as to what had occurred.   Mi r a n da   06:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I... I really don't see why I need to post what I did anywhere (if you feel that I should, be my guest to do so for me wherever you think it is appropriate; I won't hold it against you). It was just an obvious RfA closure.

(reduce indent) Sigh...nevermind. I am letting this go.  Mi r a n da   06:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

User:4chanpwr
Thanks for that - it was worse than I thought. It seems the original purpose for the template was to spam pages with spoilers for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - that's just mean.  A u l a T P N 21:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, in looking over the complexity of the vandalism, it was painfully obvious that their intentions were bad. I'm always happy to squash vandals. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

User:4chanpwr
Hello. You just blocked User:4chanpwr indefinitely, which the user clearly deserved, but I noticed that your block included the blocking of account creation and e-mail. Does this mean that no one at the user's IP address will ever be able to edit Wikipedia again, even if the address is one day assigned to someone new? Is this the common practise? Is it possible to block the account forever but, say, only block account creation for a few months? Thank you. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 21:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It's an all-or-nothing sort of thing. It's also a fairly standard procedure. I could unblock and reblock in a few months to turn off some of the extras, but I don't see a particularly compelling reason to do so (I don't think it'll have massive collateral damage). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I've never tried blocking someone indefinitely before. I guess someone at the IP address could still edit the talk page of the IP address to request an account.  --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 21:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I hate you....
I was trying to guess myself. You evil, evil man. *slaps with spoiler* Giggy  UCP 04:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Bwuhahaha. Sometimes I have more fun on Wikipedia than I probably should. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * *groan* That's not something to be proud of...anyway, I asked a real life friend to ruin the ending for me already, so here goes..............EVula is Voldemort!!!!!111111 :O OMG! Giggy  UCP 05:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Imagine my surprise when Ms. Rowling contacted me to ask my permission to add that to the book. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * (ec)And yes, you can add this lame comment to your personal attacks list:

"Wanted in 12 different states for murder, arson, rape, indecent exposure masturbation, and for being the most powerful dark wizard ever."
 * Enjoy! Giggy  UCP 05:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that last part is more of a declaration of fact, rather than an actual insult. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And the others aren't facts? :P Giggy  UCP 05:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Mmm, this round goes to you. Well played. :P EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * And for my first act as president of the universe... Giggy  UCP 05:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha, love it. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

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Username
In reference to this - :P I don't find the username offensive personally (no need to make another Irish joke on that) but I thought I would post it for another set of eyes in case it is more offensive that I think it is. IrishGuy talk 23:22, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I'm Irish too (hell, my birthday is even St. Patrick's Day). I think you used the UAA board properly in this case; I just happen to think it isn't blatant enough to block, but I, too, would prefer an additional set of eyes (otherwise I would have removed it). It's all good. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar! I'm glad you liked the greeting :) regards, – Alensha   talk  22:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Sneaky. Very sneaky.
Someone's been monitoring their watchlist closely :P Giggy  UCP 01:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Mwuhahaha. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, glad to see someone appreciates me :) (if you want this comment on my talk, feel free to move it there). I'm hoping to come back, but if you haven't seen me in a week, email me, please.  Talk soon,  Giggy  UCP 04:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Special Barnstar

 * *bows* My pleasure; I enjoy being the resident RfA gnome. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

this edit
WTF?!? :P &mdash;  03:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)'PЯIN G'' ε r α g ђ 03:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. I don't even know what languages those are in... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That's funny. &mdash;  03:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)'<font color="#A020F0">P<font color="#BF00FF">Я<font color="8B00FF">I<font color="#7D26CD">N G'' ε r α g ђ 03:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Why?
Why do you have so many people throwing threats and name-calling at you? Are those from people who you blocked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.81.185 (talk • contribs) What can I say, I'm just a very loved individual. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm an extremely active administrator, and am quite aggressive when dealing with vandals. All the insults are from people I've pissed off one way or another as an administrator (blocks, reverting edits, deleting articles, etc).

The Template doesn't count?!
What sort of nonsense is that? Templates don't count? I guess they don't actually contain words that people should read, and they aren't a standard in every wiki as a tool to inform the reader. Gee whiz! Let's declare more arbitrary rules, such as, because you obviously aren't thinking clearly, your opinion doesn't count! Yeah...sounds fair, right? 24.128.63.214 20:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Feel free to contact me again when you can engage in a constructive discussion. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Concession still accepted, my friend. Please note that deleting my words off your talk page can be considered vandalism, unless what I post is actually vandalism, so even if I am an ass who bested you in debate...better that you leave it all to see, eh?


 * In any case, despite my harsh tone and your dismissal of function due to form, my previous post was valid and thought-out. If you'd like to refer to the Talk:Mortal Kombat 4 page, I have stated my POV a bit more clearly.  The important part I will copy here, for your convenience:


 * If indeed your project's goal is to make Wikipedia a better place, you'd do a better job by taking the bigger picture into account, looking at cases in question and discerning which is a careless violation of current policy, as opposed to images like this which obviously grandfather that policy. Perhaps a better approach would be to do what I did for this older image, and provide a (self-evident) rationale. It took me all of a minute to satisfy the request. Of course, this is more time than it takes to automatically flag images en masse for deletion, and this will probably result in a less boast-worthy number in the future (if one wishes an adminship, for example), but it will result in a better WP, and not one barren of useful images. A better WP should be your goal.


 * You may not have appreciated my tone, but I think my intent, and more importantly content, was clear and noteworthy. I may be an ass, but I am a well-intentioned one.  That being said, thank you for your advice on how to meet the (ever-shifting) standard for that image.  Good luck and kind regards in the future.  24.128.63.214 21:18, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that this has all worked out just fine. I was planning on writing a rationale at some point later tonight or tomorrow, but with everything on my plate currently, I'm glad someone else did it. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm...then rather than congratulate myself as being "well-intentioned", perhaps it would be better to put my money where my mouth is and ask if there is something I could do to alleviate some of the workload involved in these images, if that's what's currently filling up your plate. I've even taken the time to dig out my username and password so you'll have a place to find me! Mael-Num 21:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Haha, well, unless you can come over here and help me design and code the two websites I've got due in a couple of weeks, there's not much you can do to help me; my plate has a lot more than just Wikipedia on it. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Coding I could probably drudge my way through...but design? I've got the aesthetic sense of a gorilla with glaucoma, so you probably want me coming nothing near any project that's worthwhile to you.  My condolences, all the same, for the workload. =( Mael-Num 23:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Facebook
Thanks for requesting the block. It was getting annoying taking off random IP vandalism. Koolgiy 18:42, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I generally hate protecting articles, but there's just too much vandal-like activity on the page right now. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It's snowing
Hello. I've noticed that you've been closing RfA's lately that are highly unlikely to pass, so I bring to your attention this RfA. It's already got 8 opposes and zero supports, and the opposers (myself included) present valid concerns, IMO. Can WP:SNOW be used here? -- Boricua  e  ddie  18:45, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I seriously thought about snowing that myself, but instead opted to actually participate in it. Personally, I think the RfA could be snowballed, though I have to recuse myself from doing it. I generally wait until the opposers number in the double digits, however (that's just my personal rule of thumb, however; I doubt anyone would be surprised if it was closed right now, when there are just 8 !voters). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. I'll just wait until a 'crat decides to close it. Happy editing! -- Boricua  e  ddie  19:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, at this point, it's an excellent candidate for an early close. I'd do it myself, but like I said, I've participated and must recuse myself. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Lullabye Before I Wake Prombelm
Why was it deleted, it's a real film comming out just watch tv and you'll see the preveiws. Trust me it's real I was just helping out like this website SHOULD be and WHAT IT SAYS!!!!! Sorry about that but please put it back up. It's true, it's a real film ask Maiara herself like I did.
 * There is nothing to prove that it is real aside from a couple of trailers that were hosted on MySpace (hardly notable). The IMDB entry you linked to wasn't even for the movie. Provide a reliable source for the film, please. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the tip on how to add links for IP address editors. Kweeket 23:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, always happy to help. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I hate to be a nitpicker...
but, technically, using the word, "pull" is making the same mistake. The alien wasn't pulled into space. You could make an argument for "pushed", but I still think "blown" is the best word to describe the action. (Though the 'innuendo' comment was rather amusing) Bladestorm 00:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC) What about saying something like "The alien was drawn through a hole in the blah blah"? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, even if I'm not right, at least I'm funny. That's good enough for me. ;)
 * Drawn sounds fine to me. :) Bladestorm 00:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent. I see you made the change to the Xenomorph article, and I've done the same to Alien: Resurrection (which also used "sucked"). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * *sigh* ... and... naturally... even a compromise isn't good enough. The least accurate term possible is somehow expected. (Seriously, it's not that I would've bothered making the change in the first place, but... going out of one's way to push for a less accurate expression? And then reverting even the compromise? yargh) Tell me, is anything ever easy here? (other than finding super-adorable chipmunks. That's pretty easy here. But I mean besides that) Bladestorm 08:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you so much, and the oxygen mask image is actually from another medical emergency I had. Looking forward to working with you in more editing when I feel better, hmwith  talk  18:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * ...another emergency? Geez, what do you keep doing? :P EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Voting on RfA
Hey EVula, just a random thought here. I've seen you gnoming on a lot of RfAs (updating the count etc.), but I was wondering if you ever actually vote on them (or !vote, if you prefer that). I can't remember ever seeing you express support/opposition for a candidate (possibly because my memory sucks...). Just a random though, have a nice day :) Giggy  Talk 22:21, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Very rarely do I actually participate, as I feel that people should do ample research on the candidates before saying whether or not they should be an admin. I rarely have the time to do that, and so I don't feel comfortable being an active participant. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Mental note to you: A lot of RfB voters may look for that. I mean, if it wasn't for your outstanding awesomeness, I'd be a bit concerned (in an RfB) that I really hadn't seen where you stand in terms of RfA.  Not that I'd ever oppose Lord Voldemort :)  Giggy  Talk 22:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The vast majority of the opposition to my RfB had nothing to do with that, so I don't think it'll be that big of an issue. :) Thanks, though. (and good call not opposing me; I'd hate to sic my armies on ya) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

False positive...
? Dipankar could imply one of my countrymen, yes, but Hitler is Hitler... :) ~ Riana ⁂ 15:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hrm, obviously I shouldn't be so quick to judge when it comes to foreign language usernames. It also doesn't help that the BetaBot does spew out a lot of false positives. Bleh, my bad. I'm not even tired, so I can use that as an excuse. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe, no worries. Perhaps I'm just feeling bloodthirsty tonight. ~ Riana ⁂ 15:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, thank you!
...for fixing the italics in my userpage. I completely overlooked it somehow (for how OCD I am, that's odd). Anyways, you're the best! hmwith talk  16:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's pretty easy for something so simple to completely fall through the cracks... I only happened to notice it because I saw that you have excellent taste in music (and, funnily enough, I was listening to them at the exact moment that I was on your userpage). ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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Update tally at RfA's
I wondered who else does this... ;~) LessHeard vanU 22:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think a good chunk of my 20k edits is just updating RfA tallys. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Subtle spamming
I thought that was a little wierd. I'd rather see people err away from side of censorship, please. &larr;BenB4 17:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Let's see... editor creates an account, and then the first two edits are to introduce a link onto two different Village Pump pages... nope, sorry, that looks like spamming to me. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but Blackle was in my local newspaper recently; who knows? &larr;BenB4 18:01, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * In the interest of WP:AGF, I did leave the user a message citing my concerns right after I removed those sections. Under more explicit spamming situations, I would have just summarily blocked them and been done with it. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:08, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Template deletion
FYI, I have nominated Template:DisambigProject for deletion. Renata 02:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks...
for this. It was an honest mistake. Happy editing! -- Boricua  e  ddie  18:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC) Quick tip: when I mark an RfA as closed, I'll time stamp it with five ~s; it's the same as a signature, but without your actual sig attached (similarly, just three ~s will do just your sig without a date). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, we all make mistakes. I accidently use the failed RfB template on an RfA fairly recently, and someone caught the mistake; it's the great circle of wiki-life in action. :)

H
I need to get into contact with H. Do you know how? --'''<font color="#ddcc00">D<font color="#bb9955">ef<font color="#884488">en d er 9 11 (Leave a message!) 23:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I've never communicated with him aside from talk pages; your best bet is Special:Emailuser/H. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Also please see User talk:Riana. &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  04:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Wiki Gestapo
Greetings EVula

I just noticed this closure of yours regarding this user's username. For the record, I consider such names extremely inappropriate, and a user name like this blemishes what this project should be about: neutral and objective education of others. If it isn't inappropriate for a user to use a nickname that refers to some of the worst genocidal maniacs my continent has ever seen, then what's next? Something relating to the SS or Auschwitz? I don't think that this particular user tried to display any evil intentions by choosing such a rubbish nick name, but this isn't just an American project. We're many Europeans working on this project and most of us come from countries that were occupied by the Nazis and where the real Gestapo enjoyed murdering and torturing our fellow countrymen. Your country has never been occupied by a hostile power, but this is still no excuse to allow something that effectively ridicules those persons that died at the hands of this monstrosity fighting for democracy and freedom in Europe - in many cases, people that simply tried to save their own lives and the lives of their families. I don't think American editors would find it particularly amusing having people around that referred to themselves as e.g. "User:Georgia Ku-Klux-Klan" or "User:Unabomber". I strongly urge you to reconsider this closure. Best regards. Valentinian T / C 22:48, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your concerns are perfectly valid, but I'm still not entirely sure about it... feel free to take it to WP:RFC/N, where we can get a broader segment of the Wikipedia editor community to weigh in on it. Note, however, that one of the reasons I closed it was because several of the concerns were completely unrelated to the username itself. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if it seems like I'm being like an ass (an entirely likely situation), but I suggested you take it to RFC/N for a reason; not taking my suggestion into consideration and instead insisting on making your argument to me doesn't make me want to block the editor any more. As it is, the user hasn't even edited since you left that note on their talk page; it's entirely likely that they'd be willing to listen to your comment and change their username. I feel that you're jumping the gun here; the first comment about the user's name was extremely light, while your message made an actual appeal to the user for their name change. Give it time before seeking administrative action. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 01:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your reply is extremely disappointing, but I'll chose to assume good faith here and assume that you simply don't know how insulting material like this is on my side of the Atlantic Ocean. I honestly can't see how this one cannot violate several points in section 5 of this policy:
 * Usernames that promote a controversial or potentially inflammatory point of view. (A user referring to himself as SS-Gruppenführer would also be grossly inappropriate. The Gestapo were perpetrators of genocide.)
 * Usernames that are defamatory or insulting to other people or groups. (if I make a post about this one to WikiProject Russia, WikiProject Poland, WikiProject Germany or WikiProject Israel I don't doubt what the reply would be.)
 * Usernames that refer to real-world violent actions. (mass murder must fall under this one)
 * Usernames that refer or include allusions to racism, sexism, hate speech, et cetera. (for most Europeans, this would certainly fall under hate speech and possibly under racism). Again, I strongly urge yourself to reconsider this one. After all, this user has made exactly 13 edits; 2 to his own userpage and 11 reverts. It is not like this person will lose a lot by changing to a non-defamatory username. Valentinian T / C 21:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Correct, I don't know how insulting it may be on the other side of the Atlantic. That's why I told you to go to WP:RFC/N, so that I can get the opinion of more than a single person.

I consider you take on the matter to be a perfectly valid third opinion. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't mean to go behind your back, but the username is totally unacceptable. I have blocked it indefinitely, but with no prejudice against creating a fresh account since the editor has in fact made productive anti-vandalism edits. We would not allow someone to call himself "I Will Rape All Vandals To Death" either. DS 21:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's perfectly fine. It's not that was dead-set against the block, it was more that I was insisting on getting some semblance of a third opinion (hence the push for taking it to RFC/N); instead of doing that, I was met with a continued argument, hence my refusal to do anything else.

UAA Removal
You removed an e-mail address from WP:UAA/BOT. Though it's not prohibited (ie. block on sight), part of WP:U states "E-mail addresses or web page addresses are generally considered likely to be promotional. Note that for a long time, email addresses were not prohibited. Usernames created before January 1, 2007 that are email addresses are grandfathered under this policy and are not prohibited." In this case, it doesn't seem promotional, but just letting you know. Thanks. -- (Review Me) R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 15:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * A valid concern, but "Mycology" itself isn't anything in particular, so I didn't see much of a concern about it. However, Mycology@aol.com is the email address for the webmaster of americanmushrooms.com... I'll drop the user a note telling him that it's usually best to not use an email address for the username, and point them in the direction of WP:CHU. Thanks for helping to keep me in line. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, Until(1 == 2) just blocked them as I was writing my welcome. Great. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:03, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * There does seem to be an issue with quite a few admins interpreting the examples of each of the five reasons as specific injunctions, even when they just say "potential" or "likely"; this in spite of the point below the reasons clarifying that the reason should ultimately be one of the five general ones, and that not all things that meet an example meet the general criterion they are under. I'm somewhat concerned by this, and would like to find some way to rectify it. Any ideas? SamBC(talk) 16:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh well, glad to see we've gotten all that straightened out. Long story made short: if you disagree with another admin's decision, it's best to discuss it with them, rather than disregarding it. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * After talking to some of my peers I have concluded you are correct. I have reversed the block, sorry about that, and thanks for the info. Until  ( 1 == 2 )  16:14, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Gah, I keep getting message notices and edit conflicts whenever I try saying anything about this. :)


 * Okay... I don't think WHEEL applies one bit here. Not blocking a person is not an admin action. Removing a name from UAA does not make it un-blockable, nor does it enter the realm of WHEEL. I appreciate that you discussed your disagreement of my admin action and that we could come to agreement. Until  ( 1 == 2 )  16:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's (very roughly) the same concept, though I'll agree that this wasn't a wheel war proper. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:35, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well no worries, we came to agreement. To be honest I thought you had overlooked the part of the policy which mentions e-mail addresses, had I known you were actually interpreting it differently then I would have talked about it first. The edit summary "this is just an email address, which isn't prohibited" is what lead me to believe you didn't think the policy mentioned it. I actually have seen your admin work for a good long time now and have a lot of respect for you judgement. Until  ( 1 == 2 )  16:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, ultimately, the only thing that matters is that we've come to an agreement. Glad to know somebody still notes what I do; I'm usually so buried in gnome stuff that I think nobody notices what I do. I'm almost shocked whenever I see the message bar. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:51, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

piya.de
On what basis did you block User:Piya.de? I think you were misled by a bot report.

Remember that the only thing in WP:U that disallows usernames in the form of domain names is the rule against "promotional" usernames. There's nothing on www.piya.de to promote. It is likely to be the online handle of a German user.  r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  18:52, 12 August 2007 (UTC) What his name means in German is irrelevant. The content of his website is irrelevant. What he may do with it in the future, I agree, is irrelevant; I only mentioned it because it was one of the things I considered when judging whether or not I should block, and you seemed to care. It wasn't the sole factor. If you don't like that bit of WP:U, please attempt to get it changed rather than complaining when people enforce the rules as they stand. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 01:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's an active domain, which only links to other domains (I check the links before blocking). There aren't ads on there right now, but that doesn't mean there wouldn't be at some point in the future. The fact that it might be the handle of a German user doesn't mater one iota to me (to be frank). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What it says in German is "my projects". Many of the links point back to the same page, indicating that whatever the projects are, they don't run over the Web, and others are running Web bulletin board software. It looks strongly to me like this guy has several unremarkable personal servers, one of them named piya.de, which he chose to use as a username, and that what you get if you access piya.de over HTTP is not meant as an entry point to anything in particular on the Web. Blocking him because of what he might do in the future is unwarranted.  r speer  / ɹəəds ɹ  21:58, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * WP:RFC/N. Go there, not here; I'm not particularly receptive to being jumped about doing things the exact same way that I have for several months. He can create a new username any time he wants, and the message in the block log specifically states that he was blocked for having a URL as his username.

User:EVula/Userboxes/User against Bush
FYI.-Wafulz 14:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up on this; I don't have it on my watchlist, as I never touched it (it was moved into my userspace by someone else, though I'm perfectly happy to take it). The T1 tag is largely bullshitish for a userbox anyway. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Divisive and inflammatory templates
How can you call this a "declaration of position"? This is clearly divisive and inflammatory. Wikipedia is not a battleground. The title is "anti-communist" and you don't call it divisive?  Mel sa  ran  14:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC) As for Prester John, it's certainly not anything I would want to have on my userpage, but I think he's well within his right to express that particular opinion. If it bugs you, here's a novel concept: don't visit his userpage. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The name of the template is irrelevant. The content of the template is a declaration of position. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll gladly change to a "this user is against war criminal George W Bush (i.e without the BLP violation). Just out of interest by the way - if Bush were ever convicted of war crimes then we would be allowed to describe him as a war criminal right? --Lancastria 16:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Similar thing, who thinks this:- "The Great Seal of the United States. Note how the Eagle holds an olive branch and 13 arrows. This symbolises how the USA will give a choice between War or Peace. YOU do get to pick, but always remember, that whichever way you choose, it is going to be done OUR way" is divisive? I do. --Lancastria 16:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * About the struck bit... It'd be better if you just left it off entirely; just because you've visually struck it doesn't remove the sentiment (or the insinuation; if I were to insinuate that you raped babies, but not actually say so, would you be any less upset?). If he were to be convicted... actually, I'm not even going to bother with that. Extremely hypothetical situation, that can be addressed when it actually happens.
 * No No No the strikeout was just an indication. I wouldn't do that in the userbox itself. --Lancastria 19:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay then. Yeah, it'd be fine. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Commons Helper
Thanks for the pointer, worked a gem and Waratah, New South Wales is the better for it. Orderinchaos 17:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent, glad to hear it helped. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

How to be an admin/holmes.sherlock
In order to be an adminn, what can I do, EVula? Please reply on my talk page. I really want to be an admin. Please tell be how to do so. Cheers Holmes.sherlock 02:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd respond, but Chrislk02 just gave you some excellent advice. EVula // talk //  &#9775;  // 02:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

And if I do so, how long should I be doing this, and who will 'invite' me to be an admin? Holmes.sherlock 02:26, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Given your rocky start, 9 to 12 months of solid editing would probably do it. I'd be happy to nominate you if you drop me a line after that time. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, nevermind, I just saw the comment on your talk page that your death is imminent. I guess 9 to 12 months is a bit too far away for you. Sorry. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Can you do me a favour?
Can you block Do Not Feed The Dereks (vandalism)? &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  02:27, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, Riana got him. &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  02:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I happened to see him... oh well, there are few people I'd rather have beat me to a block more than Riana. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * : ) I was going to ask her (the vandal hit her first after all), but I thought she was offline. &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  02:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * IRC had me under its spell :p All fixed now... ~ Riana ⁂ 03:22, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm back
Hi, I'm back to wikipedia, I decided not to leave, because I think I still have hope of being an administrator. How long do I have to do good before I can be an admin? And will someone 'invite' me to be or I just request to be one? Can you teach me, please? I'm planning to give you a barnstar later.Holmes.sherlock 05:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've already answered this question, on this very page no less. If you're not going to read the answer, don't ask the question. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 06:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Sorry for that, I'm learning more, thanks for helping clarify and thanks for reverting my edit. --<font face="Comic Sans MS"> ♫Twinkler4♫  (Talk to me!)  17:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No need to apologize, it's just one of those things that, if you don't happen to know, looks really odd. No harm, no foul. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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Just dropping by
I know that you've had somewhat of a rough day today, so I thought I would drop by and let you know that you're appreciated as a great contributor to Wikipedia and I hope that all of the crap you've dealt with doesn't get to you. I know it's frustrated many of us. Pablo  Talk  |  Contributions  06:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)



Thanks for the kind words, Pablo, and for the dancing flower, Riana. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, last night was frustrating. I was getting chewed out in three different directions... walking away from the site for a little while is, as always, the best way to deal with it. :)

Re:ANI
"When I see the indef-block notice come up on my watchlist, I won't be surprised in the least..." What do you mean by this- you can set your watchlist to watch user logs? I'd actually been thinking about how nice user contribs on watchlist would be a few minutes ago, can you do that? Oh, P.S., you get 50 50s points for saying "Crusin' for a brusin'" -L ucid 14:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC) I use "cruisin' for a bruisin'" all the time in real life (well, as much as I can without using it severely out of context). It's a great phrase, and almost always gets a smile. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I was referring more to the notice that would be left on the user's talk page... though I agree that the ability to watchlist contribs would be insanely awesome.
 * Alright. And I'm just saying, even my mother hasn't used that term in years =P --L ucid 14:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Obviously I'm cooler than your mom. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I doubt that, my mother drives a motherfucking motorcycle, and a pickup truck when that isn't enough! Wait, what does it mean when my mom drives something cool enough to be on the motherfucking level of cool? This is deeply disturbing... --L ucid 15:00, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's, woah, creepy. I've never even heard the term "cruisin' for a bruisin'", perhaps I'm hanging out with the wrong sixty-year olds? :) ~ Riana ⁂ 15:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I, uh... do theatre. That's just as cool as driving a motorcycle, right? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * sigh* No, it isn't... damn.

Just a reminder...
After your RfB, you stated that civility was your primary area of improvement... Then I'd recommend that you try to cool down before you leave edit summaries like this one ;-) (nothing personal)  Mel sa  ran  14:05, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Crap damn shit fuck! Obscenities aren't uncivil if they aren't directed at anyone =p -_L ucid 14:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I'd never leave that edit summary (any one vaguely resembling it) outside my userspace (or, for that matter, in conjunction with any "official" action I was taking as an admin or, potentially, a bureaucrat). Inside, however, it's on like Donkey Kong. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Fresh air

 * "I'm gonna cultivate the hell out of it" is probably the wrong attitude to have towards a zen garden, isn't it? ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
And, oh dear... this is my sixth Good Humor barnstar. Shouldn't I be working on an encyclopedia or something, rather than cracking jokes? Pfft.... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yay, I'm always happy to see that other people enjoy my particular sense of humor as much as I do. :)
 * Your just too good. Onnaghar tl 18:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Interesting
Interesting that you chose to see me as the one mentioning Durova on AN/I.

I didn't open the thread. I didn't mention her first.

It's even MORE interesting that you didn't give me the same HEADS UP warning when someone opened the thread about ME!

Even handed? Fair? Just? One sided?

Certainly interesting.

Peace. Lsi john 16:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * As far as I can see, EVula is merely writing out the name of the thread (which does indeed have your name in it) and would probably have informed you shortly after informing Durova (of course, I cannot make assumptions as to his intentions, but the timestamp of his comment on Durova's page is 15:12, and the timestamp of your first comment at the thread is 15:13, so he probably realised that you already knew about it?) Either way, John, we have some wikifriends in common and I respect your views and opinions, but it is true that when you start suspecting conspiracy, conspiracy comes to you. That's all I really have to say on this matter. Sorry for butting in, ~ Riana ⁂ 16:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Not at all. And I'll go back and re-read the comment on Durova's page. I always appreciate a tap on the shoulder and it's entirely possible that I saw my username in the 'thread' and mis-interpreted the warning, though I didn't get a heads up from 'anyone' about the thread, which speaks to the heart of my objection here. Peace. Lsi john 16:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * After looking again, you're correct, the AN/I thread 'name' made it read as if EVula was saying Durova was being mentioned on AN/I 'by User:Lsi_john'. For that mis-reading, I stand corrected and I apologize.


 * As for conspiracy, naw. I don't think there is a conspiracy here against me. I think there are a lot of rude, hypocritical and self-serving individuals who like to point fingers and need awards to feel good. I don't believe I'm significant enough to warrant a conspiracy against me. :) Peace. Lsi john 16:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I made that comment after you'd already responded to the topic, meaning that you obviously didn't need a heads up about its existence. No worries about the confusion regarding the section name. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I do feel a bit silly for responding the way I did.. on my screen, the 'blue' doesn't always show clearly.. (perhaps thats my eyes failing).. so this is what I saw:
 * "You are being mentioned at WP:ANI#Civility and personal attacks by User:Lsi_john. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)"
 * Apologies again. Peace. Lsi john 17:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries. Like I said on Durova's talk page (just as you were posting this here), it's a very easy mistake to make. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Movieguy999
In case you haven't noticed, User:Movieguy999's edits and attitude are identical to that of User:Venom-smasher. Venom-smasher repeatedly edited and argued against consensus. He was told by User:Deckiller that if he did so again, he would be blocked. I asked Deckiller to do CheckUser for sockpuppeting, but he hasn't responded yet. I'd appreciate if you would do so, since you are somewhat familiar with the subject. Check any of the prequel trilogy talk pages for Venom-smashers comments (you have to go into one of most recent archives). But you will find that the User's beliefs mirror Venom-smashers. I'd appreciate it as it would save me a lot of paperwork. The Filmaker 18:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I suddenly got the feeling I'd just walked into a larger problem not long after I left MG the welcome message. I'm unfamiliar with Venom-smasher, but Movieguy's edits are most definitely counter-consensus. I'll be happy to start digging through archives, though I'm at work right now, so I can't do much except revert and warn. I'll try to remember to do it tonight, but I'll be getting home late (after being outside in 100° weather for about six hours), so I can't promise that I won't immediately pass out as soon as I get home. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Movieguy999 is refusing to discuss his changes and is obviously using the technique of going just to the border of violating the 3RR and then simply adding tags. Tags are used to promote discussion....... you see my problem. It's a round circle that isn't going to stop. If you would please give Movieguy999 a warning either to stop or starting discussing his edits. The Filmaker 00:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * He hasn't edited in several days at this point. Perhaps the situation is done? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:31, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Davnel03 2
I think you have closed this too early, I can count 2 Support, 4 Oppose and 0 neutral. Can you re open it, it's not like 0-8-0, is it? Thanks. Davnel03 15:37, 17 August 2007 (UTC) You're correct about the tally, however; I missed it when closing the RfA. Correcting now. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You were unblocked barely over a month ago. The chances of you passing at this time are extremely slim. If you truly want me to open it back up though, I will.
 * Yes please. Can you open it back up, if it gets like 5:25:0, then you can close it. Davnel03 15:40, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Restored. Sorry for jumping the gun. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) Davnel03 15:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

User:HBC NameWatcherBot/Whitelist
You recently added a new term to the whitelist, but you put it in the "names" section rather than the "words" section. It's rather minor and I'd change it myself, but the page is protected. Cheers, Flyguy649 talk contribs 16:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Whoops, my bad. Thanks for the catch. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

53180
User:53180, who you blocked for disrupting the RFA process, left a uncivil message on my page for opposing his RFA. I left a warning on his page. Could you please look into it? Politics rule 22:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * He did it again. I left a level 1 warning for vandalsim on his talk page. Politics rule 23:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Again! Politics rule 23:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll take care of it. I suggest not leaving additional warnings, even if they are warranted; they could serve to only exacerbate the situation. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:19, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will not leave additonal warnings, and if the problem persist, I will come to an admin, or yourself. Politics rule 07:39, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Feel free to just come to me directly; I've got the most experience with dealing with him, and several other admins have my talk page watchlisted and could jump on major problems if I'm not around to immediately take care of it (of course, if it's run-of-the-mill vandalism, a quick trip to WP:AIV would work just as well). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Politics rule 14:03, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The pains... the pains!
I take it this is what's worse than lemonparty? Or are you referring to the delightful imagery on rotten.com? Will (talk) 18:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Tubgirl is, specifically, what still haunts me. There was another one too, a severely disfigured eyeball, that severely beats out the deleted image as well. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:11, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Numbers
Always forget that the sarcasm thing doesn't work for me on WP as well (?) as it does in real life... :) ~ Riana ⁂ 19:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Help Me
You have made my hopes of being an administator destroyed. Help me become an administator. Wikipedia has very complicating questions and I need help answering them. I think to myself "All I wanted is to be an administator". Please, help me with what I have to do. --TimySmidge 21:28, 19 August 2007 (UTC)TimySmidge If you want to become an administrator, I highly recommend reading all the links I provided you on your talk page, as they've been looked at by several members of the community and they tend to agree that they are important for an editor that aspires to become an administrator. If you still have any specific questions after reading those links, I'd be happy to answer them. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It wasn't my intention to dash your hopes for becoming an administrator. Quite the opposite, actually; RfAs that have no chance of passing are often closed prematurely to prevent editors from becoming discouraged by increasing numbers of editors seemingly opposing them.

I Thought You Always Won Battles
On the Arenas page on Mortal Kombat, you wanted to restore the images there until some yahoo kept saying they were unnecessary. What the hell happened? Administrators always win battles, don't they? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * ...huh? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:59, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

don't you remember me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.152.9 (talk • contribs)
 * You're editing anonymously. I generally don't recognize IPs (and furthermore, your IP has changed since the last time we spoke, as I see nothing in your contribs that suggests we've interacted before). If you registered an account, there would be a much better chance of me recognizing you. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

well forget about my IP. reply to my original point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * Clue me in to what you're talking about, and I'd be happy to respond. I don't remember a conversation like that happening at all. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Commons image query
I just uploaded my first image to Commons. Basically it was to lighten the background of the existing image, which was a USGS image. I've seen that you've done similar changes to existing images and your a n admin at Commons. So if you have a moment, could you check out what I did just to ensure I didn't do evil? The image is Image:HafniumMetalUSGOV.jpg. Thanks! Flyguy649 talk contribs 15:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC) Everything looks good to me. Always good to see more people doing touchup stuff on Commons. I've held up on doing more there because I inadvertently remove the camera metadata from images I upload, and haven't figured out a way around that (using PS7) that doesn't involve massive file sizes. Welcome to the wonderful world of Commons, by the way. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:01, 20 August 2007 (UTC) Hmm, I should probably change my status at some point, since I've been an admin for a couple of weeks now... Oh well, if it led someone to commons, it much not be too bad. ;) Glad to know I helped inspire another Commons clean-up person, too; there are tons more images than editors there, and we can use all the hands we can get. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! You haven't screwed up. :)
 * Thanks for checking it out for me. The only reason I did it at Commons was that I realized the file was there. I thought I was going to be doing it on Wikipedia! I was actually inspired to do a bit of touch-up as I came across some image that you had done. Actually, thinking about it, it might have been the images on your Commons user page (which I found from the brand! new! admin! notice on your page here). When you touch up jpegs, do you try to keep the file size approximately the same? In the example above, I used the image quality slider (in a Jurasic version of PhotoShop) to determine file size. The file size increased slightly (about 2kb). Thanks again, Flyguy649 talk contribs 16:16, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Generally, there's a little bit of wiggle room when it comes to the new file size; with any color alteration, there's a slight tweaking of the color values, which can increase or decrease the file size. As long as I'm not way off the old file size, I don't get too worried about it (though if I crop out the watermark from a 48k image and end up with a 72k image, I know I've done something very, very wrong).
 * Thanks again! I'll give it a go when I can. I tend to do a lot of fix-it editing when I encounter things unintentionally (or randomly). Cheers! Flyguy649 talk contribs 16:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:UAA
Er, hope my edit summaries weren't to confusing there just now. I think I misread and was thinking the user was somehow trying to "get around the system" by falsely claiming that everything was fine and then removing his entry. I see now that I was mistaken however. Sorry for the mess up. -WarthogDemon 19:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No no, you did well; I saw him removing those comments and had the exact same reaction you did. Ideally, he would have stopped editing under the old username and removed it with his new one, but oh well. Just don't think you need to apologize. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Kicknazz
I don't agree with your removal of this name from the username board as it clearly meets "Usernames that refer to real-world violent actions." It's talking about beating someone up after all. It also refers "ass" which some find offensive, though today it's politically correct not to. But the violence allow is enough to block it IMHO. Just my two cents, not questioning your motives or anything.Rlevse 20:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Kicking ass" is hardly on par with "shoot in the head", "I'll kill you", and similar names. You're welcome to make a case at WP:RFC/N, but I don't for a second consider "kicking ass" to be a violation of the "real-world violent actions" criteria of WP:U. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:48, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I respectfully disagree...how can beating someone up not be a "real-world violent action"? Are you calling it non-violent? Though I do agree it's not the same as "shoot in the head", but it's still violent. I'll file it at RFC/N. Not trying to pick a fight or questioning motives, just respectfully disagree.Rlevse 21:01, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I decided to go with "usernameconcern" first.Rlevse 21:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, "kicking ass" is decidedly more generalized, to the extent that it is completely apart from the literal meaning of the phrase. "Kick ass" is a common phrase for "cool", while in the sentence "I'm kicking ass in this video game", the phrase means "I'm doing well". Just the other day I mentioned to another admin, after we'd just put a personal dispute behind us, that we should go "kick some vandal ass," an obvious allusion to administrative work on Wikipedia, rather than a reference to actual violence. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:36, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's the trouble with phrases with more than one meaning-;)Rlevse 23:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Trying the usernameconcern route is a good idea. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Re; Checkuser since
Oversight since? That's probably about it, really. You could do arbcom since but that's not very good since it's not really a permission... and you eventually lose it anyway. The box was all WJBscribe's work anyway... he just put it in my userspace. :-) --Deskana (banana) 19:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

RFCN closing
I closed that one for you. The relevant templates are {{subst:rfcn top}} and {{subst:rfcn bottom}}. Flyguy649 talk contribs 19:40, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thank you. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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Small and unnoticeable canvassing. -- <font color="black" face="Comic Sans Ms">Dark Falls  talk 11:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You are an odd, odd person. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Eyrian has reverted your edit
Please see this edit. He refers to things way in the past before I entered the adopt a user program in his edit summary as well, which is unfair and insulting when I am discussing his other concern in a civil manner on my talk page. I find it disconcerting that someone currently under fire for their efforts to delete material would go after me when my participation in deletion discussions is greatly limited and I have tried to improve Wikipedia in different manners by improving the first lines in articles, uploading images, welcoming users, etc. I entered the adopt-a-user program as a learning process and have been in contact with Durova and Chaser for their suggestions and guidance throughout. I respect these administrators' opinions and suggestions and am doing my best to follow them. Eyrian and I have ideological disagreements that are causing him to go after me now unjustifiably. I suggested we avoid each other at one point, then Chaser suggested to me to offer an "olive branch" which I attempted to do by making some minor improvements to some articles Eyrian created. I don't know what more I can offer this editor so that we can work to improve this site in a constructive manner. If you have any insights, I'd appreciate them. Sincerely, --<font face="Times New Roman"> Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 20:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like my comment was supported by Chrislk02, who restored the resolved tag. I'm not sure what additional advice to give, however; dispute resolution is not my forte, and it seems that the topic is receiving plenty of attention from people better versed than I. What I do feel comfortable saying, however, is that I've found Welcomeg to be quite sufficient when welcoming users, though there are plenty to be found at Welcome templates. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the constructive reply. Sincerely, --<font face="Times New Roman"> Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance, but the last thing I want to do is start handing out crappy advice left and right. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Understandable. It seems like we're having a nice discussion now over there anyway, so I'm confident things will work out one way or another.  Anyway, I have decided to just use the generic welcome template suggested on the AN as evidenced by recent edits.  Would it be best to move the discussion on AN to my talk page or just keep it there and let it be archived there?  You need not reply, as it would probably be bad form for me to do so, so I'll leave it up to you or another to decide that.  Best, --<font face="Times New Roman"> Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 21:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Generally, those things are best left alone; the AN thread will get archived once it is inactive for a spell. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks again for all the fast replies! It is storming here, so I'll probably have to log off soon as the lights just flickered!  Best, --<font face="Times New Roman"> Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 00:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Consider yourself lucky. We are in a bit of a drought, and the temperature is routinely hitting 100°. Ugh. Though at this point, I think a solid rain storm would just make it muggier than cooler... bleh. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 00:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, we aren't totally lucky here. Here's part of my lawn yesterday: [[Image:Ohio flood picture August 2007.jpg|500px]]--<font face="Times New Roman"> Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 00:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, you win. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 01:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sadly, this one, I wish I didn't win! :) --<font face="Times New Roman"> Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles Tally-ho! 01:54, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Atlanta Wikimania bid IRC meeting
Hello, The first of likely many IRC meetings to coordinate the Atlanta Wikimania bid is being held tonight (Aug 23) at 7:00PM EST in #wikimania-atlanta on irc.freenode.com. If you can, it would be great if you could log on. If not, I am sure there will be plenty more times to discuss the bid :). --Cspurrier 16:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I saw that. However, there's no chance for me to make it; I'm the assistant house manager for the Nashville Shakespeare Festival, and will instead be at a park for about five hours instead (and the high today will be 105°; trust me, I'd much rather be on IRC). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can make it, the second of likely a long series of IRC meetings is being held Friday (Aug 24) at 7:00PM EDT in #wikimania-atlanta on irc.freenode.com. --Cspurrier 19:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll try to pop in when I can, but while I'm busy with shows (see the wikibreak notice at the top of the page), my spare time is extremely wonky. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:27, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Request for help
EVula, I noticed your comments on the talk page of a mutual friend, BillCJ. I wonder if you can look into a problem with the Amelia Earhart page. A conspiracy theorist has come back after being reverted by at least two editors and one admin, but he has again reverted every change made by Gwen Gale who has been a major contributor to the article for over a year. She did a very careful analysis of his recent edits and rewrote the article, establishing a referenced and supported section on disappearance theories related to Amelia Earhart. I do not want to get into a revert war but our "Saipan theory is best" editor has been cautioned on both the article discussion page and his own talk page, that his assertions are untenable and do not have consensus support. He will not listen to me and only an admin can return the article to its original state or to the version that Gwen Gale proposed. Help... Bzuk 23:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC).
 * Looks like another admin already locked it down (not surprising, since it's taken me several days to respond to this). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:29, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

CSD AutoReason Updated
Attention spamlist! I've just updated CSD AutoReason to account for the new image deletion page. If you'd just hard refresh (Ctrl+F5 in most browsers), you'll get the new version and be on your way.  ^ demon <sup style="color:#c22">[omg plz]  <em style="font-size:10px;">17:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for doing the honours. Now it begins.... -- Anonymous Dissident  Talk 21:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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actually
i have a source that iLiKETRAiNS are branded as "Wikipedia Rock". http://www.soundsxp.com/3886.shtml so i think it should be reverted =)

sorry about editing the manual of style i changed it back afterwards you'll notice. *nods* Rooty 10:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC) And no, you didn't change the Manual of Style back. You only edited it twice. The fix was done by me. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * "Wikipedia Rock" isn't an actual genre of music; just because some website says it doesn't mean it exists. If you can provide a more notable source (or evidence that multiple sources cite them as such), that'd be different.

afd !vote
I think you have inadvertently misstated my position. Best, THF 15:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, I didn't read it at all (my bad); I was making a general statement based on what someone else said (specifically, ElinorD's "The subject clearly does not want this article" comment). I've rephrased my comment to (a) not say that you want it deleted, which is incorrect, and (b) better illustrate that I'm making a general comment, rather than one directed specifically at you. Thanks for the heads up on my mistake. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Noobs
Bold doesn't get the point across? What about underlining it :-p. I was such a n00b. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  Wi ki  her mit  03:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehehe, classic. Ah well, it matters less how you started out, and more how you've ended up. I'd say you've done a fairly good job of putting that behind you. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:37, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania Atlanta bid team meeting
Hello, The Wikimania Atlanta bid team meeting is being held nightly on weekdays. This week meetings are starting at 9:30EDT and running for a few hours. If you can make it to the meeting (or at least pop in) that would be wonderful. Meetings are in the IRC channel #wikimania-atlanta on irc.freenode.net.--Cspurrier 21:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've got a production meeting tonight, and shows Thursday-Monday. :( EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:10, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:IAR
Could you please restore the phrase "or maintaining" after "improving"? Before that wording was added, users sometimes tried to exploit this apparent loophole by claiming that the policy only enabled editors to ignore a rule for the purpose of making changes for the better (and not to prevent changes for the worse). —David Levy 05:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

A descriptive header (Can't think of anything else)
"On the contrary, DF." I think not... your policy will be crushed by me, and my home-baked chickens... :)-- <font color="black" face="Comic Sans Ms">Dark Falls  talk 11:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Favor
Hi EVula, I was doing RC patrol, and this IP really sent up flags, for a number of reasons. First, the sheer volume of edits to seemingly random articles (2-5+ per minute), suggested, at least to me, some kind of bot. Second, some of the edits are valid, but edits like this redirecting an article that was up for merge. Most of the edits seem to be removing links to common images (that were placed incorrectly) or fixing improper "italic text" tags left by inexperienced editors. Finally, their talk page has a number of warnings placed on it. Since I realize at times that Wikipedian administrators may use IPs, I did not take any action on this, but I thought I'd ask someone to look into it. Please let me know if my concerns are unfounded. Thanks! Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ Gold 21:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to point a friend of mine, User:Jmlk17 here to take a look, as he's online now. Sorry to bother you! Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ Gold 21:34, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Never mind, he's not online either. [[Image:Face-sad.svg|25px]] Ah well. Ariel <font color="FF69B4">♥ Gold 21:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Help
Hi. I'm just wondering what the basic requirements are for being an administrator. Since you you seem to know much on the subject, I've decided to ask a few questions that I hope you may be able to answer (I had a recent unsuccessful RfA)
 * How many edits do you recommend? Is 1000 enough?
 * What should I do to gain support?

I have other questions, but I don't want to give you too much right now.

Astroview120mm 05:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


 * There isn't a fixed amount of edits that is recommended. What is more important than edit count is experience. Participating in various deletion discussions, working to improve the quality of our articles... stuff like that shows that you've got good grasp of how things work around here. If you really want an edit-count baseline, my RfA passed when I had 9100 edits (and I've now got just under 21k). In addition to the links I provided you when I closed your RfA, I'd recommend checking out some of the recent successful RfAs to get an even better idea of what is and is not expected of administrator candidates. If you've got anymore questions, feel free to ask me. EVula // talk //  &#9775;  // 15:03, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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vandal question
Hi, I want some help with starting to deal with vandalism and I think your an admin that's interested in vandalism, so I'm asking you. If not, please just tell me and I'll go find someone else. I just found | this diff and I posted a vandal warning at the editors talk page. Did I select the right warning, am I supposed to do anything else? Thanks in advance for any advice. Pdbailey 19:44, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I watch EVula's page. Looks fine to me. You can mark reversions as minor edits, but I often forget. Your addition of a comment to the standard "Undo" summary was helpful. You gave uw-v2 for a first instance, which I think can be ok although you can also start with uw-v1. The only thing I'd do differently is say which template you left in the edit summary. I literally say "v2" or "vand2". It's helpful in case the user blanks his warnings, it's easy to see what they've received by looking at the talk page history. Flyguy649 talk contribs 19:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tips Flyguy649, I was using the guidance in Vandalism, specifically the text next to the warning templates, but it sounds like I should start with 1, then do 2, et cetera? Pdbailey 23:10, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I do start with level 2 frequently. It's a judgement call, but if you don't think the edit was in good faith, level two is fine. However, you may get a difference in opinion on this. I'd probably have used level 1 in this case, but I don't think the difference is a big deal. I probably give level 2 on some days for vandalism that I'd give a level 1 to on others. As long as you aren't vastly over warning --e.g., level 3 here wouldn't have been appropriate. I guess if you have any doubt that level 2 is correct, start with level 1. But look at the contributions of the person before you warn. If it's a marginal level 2 and they're in the middle of a spree, go with the level 2. I don't know if that clarifies it at all! Feel free to ask more. -- Flyguy649 talk contribs 03:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

re: hungry goats
Okay – sounds fine to me. I semiprotected mountain goat after rolling back one person who took their humor there. I was knitting, then I saw the joke, said, "oh, crap," opened my PowerBook, and 12 anon IPs had _already_ hit the article, all in the space of about 20 seconds. I was in Florida during the Colbert thing last summer but wasn't an admin then. Hopefully this dies down sooner, but that's not likely until at least Wednesday morning, because they'll rerun this show several times Tuesday morning and evening. Thanks for watching out for me! :-) - Krakatoa  Katie  04:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Image formatting
I asked Flyguy about image formatting, I was told you would know more about it, then I met a bunch of new people hehe. Anyhow, I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of some sort of help page for the format and layout of images. I have been contributing images but have just been mimicking the formatting code of the other images. Thanks. Wordless symbol 15:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you mean by "image formatting"? I'd love to help out, but I need to make sure of what you're talking about before giving out advice. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Comment on Temlpate:resolved
If you have a moment, would you mind commenting on this thread, which you had participated in before and which is now open again. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 18:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up; it had indeed slipped past me. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Betacommand 2
Thanks for your imput at WP:BN. Everything seems to be OK. Thanks again.--U.S.A. (talk contribs ) 15:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, I did not know that below 50% equated to WP:SNOW. I always thought that it would have to be 0/5/1/, 0/10/5, or something like that.--U.S.A. (talk contribs ) 15:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all of the help!--U.S.A. (talk contribs ) 15:53, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You would make a great bureaucrat canadate! I'm aware there is this one year standard for bureaucrat canadates, but I think in that time, you would be more than qualified for the job.--U.S.A. (talk contribs ) 22:42, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, I've already made an attempt at an RfB, but it fell a bit short. I'm hoping to re-run at some point either later this year or early next (really it just depends on when I feel I'm ready to try again; I'm certainly busy enough without the added workload of being a 'crat). Thanks for the support. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Re: no userfied interwikis
Don't the bots get confused or something and add more of those if they're already there? It isn't against any rules to remove them from user subpages anyway, is there? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:56, 14 September 2007 (UTC) There aren't rules per se about removing them (one way or another), but there's no reason (as opposed to commenting out Fair Use images and categories) for you to do anything to them. If someone was working on an article in their userspace and someone suddenly commented out perfectly valid content, I'd certainly understand it if they got pissed about it (which is reason enough not to do it, in my estimation). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC) Hmm, the Tupac bit is a bit more complicated, in my opinion. Check out the instructions at Requested moves; you could probably gain consensus for it on the talk page of Tupac. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No, as the bots don't stumble across the userfied pages (besides, they generally don't keep track of how many articles they've found, plus they generally don't check for interwikis in the user namespace).
 * Understood. However, the user is still breaking policy by re re-placing those fair use images and article space categories on the subpages, see TimySmidge's contributions. I reverted them (again), but could you assist in keeping an eye on him/her and undo them and warn the user if neccessary? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Absolutely, that is a problem. I'll keep any eye on his contributions, and drop him a note if he continues. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. And since you're a sysop I have a request: since a name like Elvis forwards to Elvis Presley per popular name, can you move Tupac to Tupac (disambiguation) and have Tupac redirect to Tupac Shakur per the same case? I see no grounds of a discussion needed in this matter, so may you perform this simple task? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:43, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh boy, now I know why the name looks familiar; I closed his RfA per WP:SNOW, and have had to revert his attempts at removing it from the failed RfA page. Looks like this may have gotten a bit more interesting...
 * Well, what do we have hear (I'm angry), I private conversation about me?! YOU EVIL PEOPLE!!  I HATE YOU ALL!!  SHUT UP ABOUT ME!!  (I'm really mad)  --TimySmidge 20:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. I'm a boy, you jerks.  --TimySmidge 20:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please read Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. I'm sorry if our conversation about your editing upset you, but to be blunt, get over it. It's not malicious, it's functional. You've been violating Wikipedia's policies regarding Fair Use images, and this discussion is about that; if you don't like having your policy violation-related edits discussed, don't violate policy. End of story, move on. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't want to be mean like my dad, but my dad does have a point. My dad tells my not to talk behind people's backs.  I know I sound like a 7 year old, but that's because I am.  --TimySmidge Jr. 18:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ...right. Excellent grasp of English for a seven-year old. Makes up for not knowing what "talking behind someone's back" means. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:08, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
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Credits
This RFA thanks was inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks. So unfortunatly this is not entirely my own design.
 * oooh, pretty... EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Question
Okay then. I will hit you up for a question. What is the biggest problem I will probably face as a new admin? -- Тhε Rαnδom Eδιτor 12:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * People getting pissed off at you for doing your job. Lots of people have their own ideas about how things should be done, and will get upset if you correct them (such as POV-pushers, vandals, and spammers). Welcome to the party... ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 16:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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Go ahead and...
... delete those subpages by, if you'd like. He hasn't responded so he apparently doesn't care about a violation. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that he'd been active since the last time people had left him messages. I'll do it later today (I'm about to head out to work right now, and I'd feel silly about showing up late because of him...). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 13:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, this is a reminder in case you forgot to delete those subpages. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:13, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

KDR's SSP report
Do you think it would be wise to delete Suspected sock puppets/Kyle.died.rich? I was mistaken in reporting him, and I do not wish the mere existence of an SSPR to stain his record. <font color="Black">J- ſtan TalkContribs 15:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think so. If you want it gone, just let me know, and I'll remove it under G7. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be for the best. I've blanked and tagged it for G7. <font color="Black">J- ſtan TalkContribs 15:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Voila, I just deleted it. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! <font color="Black">J- ſtan TalkContribs 15:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you unblock User:Kyle.died.rich? he was autoblocked, when he has proven that he hasn't done anything wrong. <font color="Black">J- ſtan TalkContribs 00:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks like someone else has gotten it. Groovy. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
EVula, thanks again for your spirited and welcome defense. You articulated what I wanted to say much better than I could have and that support means a lot to me. Thank you.--Chaser - T 06:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. It always irks me to see admins get harassment just for doing the job; "threatening" a block is just a part of what we have to do, and getting flak for it is absurd. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Info
You put a short block on User:190.129.118.1 - according to Open proxy detection it is an open proxy - cheers -- Herby talk thyme 11:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ...I hate to admit it, but I've got absolutely zilch experience dealing with open proxies. I've given an indefinite block with "Block anonymous users only" and "Prevent account creation" checked, and subst:ed blocked proxy on their talk page. Is that it? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 14:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Mail :) -- Herby talk thyme 15:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yay, I'm not being called a fema... oh, wait, nevermind. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you read my message?
I tried reminding you, but it seems you accidentally skipped it. Well, those subpages by TimySmidge will have to be deleted now. Or would you prefer that I tag them with speedy beforehand? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I did indeed forget to do it. As soon as I wrap up what I'm working on now, I'll take those pages out. Thanks for the reminder. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Voila, pages deleted, user informed of their deletion. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm watching this user BTW in case he/she does it again. I'll let you know of anything. Happy editing! Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikimaina Atlanta meeting
We will be holding a meeting tonight at 9:30pm EDT in #wikimania-atlanta on irc.freenode.org. For more information about IRC see Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/IRC. Please try to be at this meeting as it is one of the last ones before bidding ends and we still have lots that need to be discussed. --Cspurrier 19:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if I'll be home by 8:30, but I'll try to make it. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:48, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Humour

 * I hate it when I use a funny edit summary and nobody sees it... makes the ones that are seen all the sweeter. Thanks for the barnstar. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 're welcome. Your seventh good humour barnstar? Geez, I thought I was being original here. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm just a funny guy, what can I say? ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Good faith
Actually, I was warning them for their last edit, and as I looked through their edit history, I ran across the I hope you die comment, and went to WP:AIV to report it, and it got deleted right away because you had already taken care of them. :) Corvus cornix 20:52, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, it's fun when everybody is doing the same things at the same time. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Considering the comments in those edits, I have requested on WP:ANI that User:Burgz33 be indef. blocked. Corvus cornix 20:57, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh? Where's the tie between the Burgz and the IP? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The IP is claiming to be vandalizing the User pages in order to prove to them that they can't keep Burgz33 blocked. Corvus cornix 21:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, figures. I didn't even read the entire thing. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for removing the vandalism/"hope you die" bit from my talk page. Cheers.--Yankees76 23:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Collection of insults...
That's comedic gold! Collection of threats... sort of morbid. How do you attract these sick freaks?  Lara Love  23:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC) And, to be fair, a good number of the threats are from this one particular sockdrawer that I somehow got drawn into, so they could have been done more for effect than out of actual anger (though the person was clearly off their rocker to begin with). I do love that section of my userpage, though... if I ever retire from Wikipedia, I'm stripping my userpage down to nothing but a goodbye notice and the insult collection. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Pretty easy method: liberal application of WP:BOLD to my administrative habits. :)
 * Mind if I but in? Those threats are disturbing as well, I've read Jimbo's comments on it; and I agree if you want to keep them up, they're a good read! Phgao 06:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Jimbo commented on it?  Lara Love  17:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed he did. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 18:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, EVula! Yeah, they set it up Saturday (the day after we moved in), and 3 service calls later, we finally got it working (today, Thursday). I was honestly dying. I don't think one can realize how addicted he/she is to Wikipedia, or the internet in general, until it is not readily available. It was death. hmwith talk  17:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC) (incidentally, this is my 666th edit of my talk page. creepy...)
 * Yeah, I had no clue how much I used the internet. I even had applications that used the internet that I didn't even know used it... and took others for granted. Not knowing what the weather was like for the next week, or what was on the radar, or what traffic was like with just the flick of a button was maddening. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 20:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * [Cue eerie music] hmwith  talk  22:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Mistake
You have a mistake in deletion. I am attempting to change these, but I haven't gotten around to it. Please restore them. By the way, they're Dragon Ball articles, not Dragon Ball Z. --TimySmidge 20:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm in tears
I was on TTN's talk page, and you were talking about me. I came here to give a message (this one), when I saw you talking about me. I'm scared and in tears. People are talking about me behind my back and no one's told me. Please keep me in touch. Also, don't ever call me Smidge again. If your going to nickname me, call me "Timmy" (TimySmidge is short for TimmySmidge, my short name and my nickname). --TimySmidge 20:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't talking about you "behind your back"; that insinuates that there was some sort of malicious purpose behind the note I left on TTN's talk page, which there wasn't. It was me coordinating my editing with another editor, which is perfectly reasonable. As for "keeping you in touch", the entire conversation was talking about messages that were already left on your talk page; there isn't much more that could be done to keep you in touch more than that.


 * As for the deleted pages, they were deleted because you'd resumed editing after you'd had messages left on your talk page asking you to clarify their purpose. In the future, it would be best to respond to talk page comments when you come back.


 * I'll also refrain from calling you "Smidge" again; it'll just be "Timmy" for now on. I wasn't aware you had a preference; my apologies.


 * I'll restore the Dragon Ball articles, provided you (a) actually keep working on them (from what I could tell, there were only minor modifications that had been made; unless you're doing an entire overhaul of an article, it's best to just make the edits to the articles themselves), (b) only work on a couple of them at a time (keeping your focus on just a single article at a time will help move everything along faster), and (c) don't restore the Fair Use images again. That was the whole reason that they popped up on my radar at all, and you were unresponsive to previous attempts at informing you of the Fair Use violations that they posed. I'm not going to restore the articles if you're going to keep on ignoring the editors who are removing the images (and, for that matter, the categories). If you can agree to those three items, I'll restore the articles for you to continue working on (though I'd recommend only restoring a couple of them right now). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Deal. I agree.  My apologies for my outburst above.  --TimySmidge 21:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Plus, look at my userpage. You'll see what kind of person I am.  --TimySmidge 21:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Requests for adminship/Ronnotel
Just so you understand, I'm rather single-minded on admin candidates lately. I've watched a lot of them who are good at mopping up (let's call them janitors), as opposed to one's who are leaders (let's call them admins). I seem to think that admins should be out in the project helping it grow through edits, building consensus where there contentious behavior, and not get stuck on rules. For example, I just dislike WP:CIVIL, not because I am inherently an uncivil human being, but because I don't like a judgement call (what precisely is civility?) being used to silence one editor over another. I do care about an editor who builds the encyclopedia. Ronnotel, based on his writing style and editing, can't be much more than 15 years old. If he is, I'm not sure he should be an admin, if he is older, I am not sure he should be an admin. My thoughts about admin candidates is both consistent and deeper than a few sentences. I respect your edits and what you have done for the project, so I wanted to explain myself to you, so that you don't lump me in with all of the trolls (or worse yet ban me from the project). So I hope you understand. Orange Marlin Talk• Contributions 21:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Trolls and the newest account, TimySmidge Jr.
What this new user said contradicts exactly what the first TimySmidge claimed. I wonder who is the boy, the father, or is it the same person all along? I'm going to revert their edits on my talk page and the edits they did to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Peter Vogel. But before I do though, it would greatly help a lot if you could share your expertise on this matter before I make any rash decisions. Any additional thoughts ? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:24, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I read "boy" as more a declaration of gender, rather than age; still seems extremely odd, though (one of the reasons I just archived my talk page was to clear that out of here). The edits made to the SSP page I've already reverted and refactored, so no additional work is needed there. I'm afraid I don't have much more to say on the matter; my experience with sock puppets is rather limited. I'd recommend just letting it run its course naturally; I'm a big fan of giving people the rope to hang themselves with. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I think I'm starting to regret not using WP:CHECKUSER to get the job done quicker. What approach would you had taken instead? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm going to put back the sock tag on TimySmidge's userpage. With what little to no "proof" given, other than an appearance of a mysterious new account and claims such as "innocence", I see that these trolls are just abusing usernames and toying with us at this point in time. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:02, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, I'd leave the tag off; getting into an edit war will only serve to exacerbate the situation. I will readily agree with you that the "proof" is exceptionally weak, though. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I made an amazing discovery. I found yet another TimySmidge.  His name was User:Harry Potter fan AKA TimySmidge, and even wrote on TimySmidge's talk page "Hello, self".  As a user that finally got a user name (I've been on Wikipedia long before this), I will help you with this as much as I can.  Keep in touch!  P.S. I don't want to be rude, but don't you think "EVula" sounds a little feminine?  --ChristianHJH 20:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a sock. I'm having this investigated further. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 02:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Help!
I forgot my password! Can you help me? --64.107.161.130 22:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)I'm Really TimySmidge Jr.
 * I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do to help. Administrators can't retrieve or reset passwords. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Is there anyway my son can still edit as "TimySmidge Jr."? --TimySmidge 22:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not as far as I know. Did the account have an email address attached to it? EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. Sorry about the image on the VeggieTales thing. I forgot.  --TimySmidge 22:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it. Just don't let it happen again. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I got a new username now! :) --TimySmidge Jr. 22:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Matrix
Howdy again, after my own rather unpleasant experience with an imposter discussed over on Phaedriel's page, I asked Alison if I could use her matrix, but I sat here for hours trying to figure out how to get new accounts I made to it, and I'm not a programmer, I don't know what all the code means, so I just couldn't figure it out. I took a look at your code, and it seems a lot easier, would you mind if I tried to do my matrix with your code, instead? If you don't want people copying it, that's fine, I would understand. Thanks, Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ Gold 14:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * By all means, do whatever you want with it. As it is, I took the original code from Lar's matrix. I just added a fair amount of code to make it my own. For example, he doesn't display the local translations of the "user" and "user talk" namespaces, and I've yet to see another matrix with an equivalent to my "Ref." column (though that's not surprising). If you need any help customizing it, just gimme a shout (here or on Meta); I'm also working on Phaedriel's matrix (though admittedly not as far along on it as I'd like). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't need the Ref column, so I'm not really sure how to deal with that, I'll mess around and tinker with it and see if I can get it to work, lol. Mostly I just change/add/remove stuff and see if it does what I want (normally it doesn't, lol) and keep plugging along until I can get it, or I give up, whatever comes first, lol. But the way yours is, with the individual places to just add "name" etc., well, it was just easier at first glance than Alison's/Kylu's. I'll see how I do, lol. And thank you for giving me permission to use it! (And of course, to Lar as well). Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ Gold 15:39, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Originally, I had the entire matrix hard-coded like Alison and Kylu... then Lar showed me how he did it, and I had to do it all over again. Grr. At least you're starting on the right track from the get-go. ;) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol, yeah, having it done this way with the little 'mini tables' inside is awesome, although admittedly, it really threw me off with the two sub-pages I needed. I didn't create those, and whoooo hooo did it look funky without them! Hee hee. (As a side note, why is it Jimbo linked for those pages? And is it okay that I changed it to me?) Anyway, I have it up, although I've not created every page yet, lol. Time consuming, plus making different passwords for each, sheesh, lol. Thanks for your help and letting me use it! Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ Gold 22:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you mind
if I use your wiki account matrix to set up my own? &mdash; Timotab Timothy (not Timdagnabbit!) 15:46, 25 September 2007 (UTC) At any rate, if you have any questions about making yours, just drop me a line (here or on Meta, though keeping it all on meta seems like a good idea). EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * By all means. I apologize in advance for the lack of documentation... perhaps I should write down a bit more than what I've got, since it seems like matrices are becoming more popular.

No Brainers?
My vote wasn't necessarily a majority vote if that's what it looked like I was going for. :P To me, a "no brainer" vote includes: Of course, these are not what I see as requirements to support. Just the "no brainer" ones; if they're not "no brainers" then it takes convincing for me to vote support. So far I've only given two of those including this one. Is this a poor way of looking at it? - Warthog Demon  22:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * NO weak supports (like the pointing out of some minor issues that are "not bad enough to not support"
 * At least 50 supports.
 * NO Neutrals or Opposes, even those that later change to supports.

Thanks
That gave me a well needed laugh. Thanks! --Kbdank71 20:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Hopeshopes
I don't get it. Is this a known troll? Or was some attempt made to engage this editor that I didn't see? --JayHenry 01:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I actually just opened a topic up about this on the incident noticeboard exactly two minutes before you posted here. :) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 01:30, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * ~*Ariel whistles the Twilight Zone theme... Spoooky! *~ Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ Gold 01:40, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Ilmari Karonen has already asked Hopeshopes what the cause of that was (and asked about a minute after I blocked), and he's yet to respond (I hadn't thought of the parent's protection script idea, and I'm too unfamiliar with them to know if that's a viable excuse or not). I'm gonna wait and get a general reaction at ANI before doing anything else. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 01:58, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ha, I must have checked whatlinkshere from user:hopeshopes about one minute before you started the thread, and then debated for three minutes whether or not to bring it up. I'm a bit sensitive to this sort of stuff -- my first edit was pointless trivia, my second to DRV of all places!   (Feel free to use me if you ever need that as an example.)  Today, I really think I would have been blocked as an SPA, and I doubt I would have given the project a second chance.  I like to think I turned out to be a semi-helpful contributor.  I'd maybe explain what happened on hopeshopes talk page, give him a chance to respond.  Because of the speed with which that weird script was inserted, I'm guessing he's a kid whose parents have some filter installed on the computer. --JayHenry 01:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say you've turned out just fine. :)


 * Note (to myself, mostly): archived ANI post is at Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive303. General opinion seems to be that the block was justified. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 19:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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You commented on "List of minor Star Wars Sith characters" AFD, you might also wish to comment on "List of ancient Jedi" AFD, which is where the nom came from. Viperix 07:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've voiced my opinion there, too. EVula // talk // &#9775;  //

Inflating wikipedia space edit count
This is just such a cheap way of inflating your wikipedia space edit count. I will so oppose you over that, should you ever run for adminship!!!1! — Please indulge me, it's the evil spirit that dwells in the beer. I should just log out instead of trying to be funny, rarely works out my way. — aldebaer⁠ 23:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, damn, I'm caught. Hopefully I won't be submitting an RfA for myself any time soon... (a true statement, actually) EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 23:16, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Damn, thanks for having a sense for that kind of humor. — aldebaer⁠ 23:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hahaha omigosh that's too funny! Ariel <font color="F64A8A">♥ Gold 23:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

More socks?
Regarding this section, who is ? There was at first a TimySmidge Jr., now there's a TimySmidge Jr (recreated). And recently, TimySmidge (the father?) moved Cars (video game) to Cars (game). Can you revert this per the manual of style at WP:VG? At least now we have TimySmidge Jr.'s ip in case blocking is needed (have you read this ip's edits BTW? They're unrelated to the current user's contributions. Totally strange). Interestingly, all of the Peter Vogel socks stopped with the random re-additions of fancruft to the Dragon Ball-related articles. Why? Can you comment on this? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I helped my son get a new username because he forgot his password. That's why there's now a recreated.  --TimySmidge 21:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You're all socks. I've been meaning to block everyone except this, your primary account. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 21:07, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No we're not. --TimySmidge 21:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I've got a CheckUser case that says you are (and was executed by an editor who I trust implicitly about it), plus there is certain behavior that is indicative of sockpuppetry. Sorry, but I'm not particularly inclined to believe you. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I figured as much. I'll take care of the sock tagging, how come you did not block the puppeteer per policy? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Strangely, User:Harry Potter Fan AKA TimySmidge, User:TimySmidge Jr (recreated), and User:TimySmidge Jr. have not yet been blocked indefinitely as it seems. Those pages that TimySmidge worked on he moved to innapropiate titles and he is (again) using nonfree images. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're curious as to why I haven't blocked them yet, please see the note at the top of the page. I try not to do too much wiki-editing at work during the day, and my time at night is extremely limited for the next couple of weeks. I'll start taking care of the edits now. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 03:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm at a loss as far as what to do about the moved articles. I'm too unfamiliar with Dragon Ball Z to know if I should copy/paste the new versions or just delete them outright. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 04:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into this and I apologize for not seeing your hectic schedule. As for those DBZ articles, go ahead and delete them, they're just copypasted from the original pages. It probably violates the GFDL anyway so you might as well. I'll try not to bother you too much this month. Cheers! Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 07:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, they should at least be moved back to the way they were before and then the "(extended)" redirects should be deleted. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, undoing the moves seems like the least destructive course of action. I'll fix them when I get home from rehearsal tonight. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 22:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

This is a reminder about the "page undoing" in case you forgot. And I'm hoping you could answer my question from before, why wasn't the sockpuppeteer blocked? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC) I haven't blocked the sockpuppeteer because the socks weren't being used abusively per se. I need to have a conversation with TimySmidge about both the socks and the most recent DBZ stuff. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 05:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks for the reminder; I got sidetracked once I got home. I'm taking care of them now.
 * Whoops! You missed one. I'll also check if any of the TimySmidge's created these pages too. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 09:18, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, that was a brand-new copy/paste article (done by one of the socks). I'll take a look at all the contribs to look for more such articles. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 15:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Let me go over some things. The one with the numbers is our home computer, so it's me and my son.  I admit that the Harry Potter one is me, but I was an immature user at the time.  I don't know who ChristianHJH is, but TimySmidge Jr., and TimySmidge Jr (recreated), who are the same person, is really my son.  Is there something wrong me having a son? Oh!  And what's a CheckUser? --TimySmidge 20:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)