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Image:Barrencrossatomicarena.jpg
That image does NOT have a valid rationale. βcommand 23:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes it does, why is it invalid? Your bot is malfunctioning.--E tac 23:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 10 (c) The name of each article in which fair use is claimed for the item, and a separate fair-use rationale for each use of the item, as explained at Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. The rationale is presented in clear, plain language, and is relevant to each use. quote from our WP:NFCC policy, something that image fails. βcommand 23:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I added what article it is for, will you and your bot leave it alone now? If it is still inccorect wouldn't you be able to fix it since you seem to be an expert on this policy. Be proactive. --E tac 00:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Three revert rule block
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Indeed
Why thanks you! I appreciate that. The line break does indeed seem superior idea for many reasons over the comma breaks. Navnløs 23:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Album infobox genre delimiters
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A POV edit that I don't agree with
Perhaps you won't either? see this. To me Christian metal has every right to be included in the Heavy metal template. I do not see where the POV for removal is coming from. An long-term music editor put the term back. And it was removed again with a talk page message that has more "anti-Christian" overtones to it than it has "anti-genre" reasoning. I know that I am a Christian. And I listen to all sorts of Christian metal. And I don't consider it to be any less "metal" than any other form of heavy metal. Just thought you'd like to know. 156.34.219.206 10:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I always believed Christian metal to be a valid 'stand alone' genre. "Thrash metal" bands w. Christian lyrics typically get tagged as Christian metal first. Or any other "X" metal band who lean on pro-Christian lyrics get tagged for their lyrical content ahead of the music style. My observation anyways. 156.34.219.206 11:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The template is a prot so it is beyond my reach. Under my former username I had over Wikipedia 20000 edits. I rejected my account for the purity of anonymous editing(it's what Wikipedia was built on) I was also tired of being nominated for adminship every other week... something I have no desire to be. I have close to 30000 edits as an IP now and I am not about to go backwards to my old account just to rv a template. Inhumer is on the VandalProof blacklist. So he's obviously made someone angry along the way. Maybe for edits like his recent one? 156.34.219.206 11:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Boston Beer
Check Sex for Sam out for that revert today.-- T HE F OUNDERS I NTENT  TALK 13:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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 * You won't get past Wikipedia's non-free content policies by deleting comments of others that you don't agree with. The text of the template in the image description page clearly states "Please do not remove this tag"; you should respect this and wait for an admin to decide.
 * Regards, High on a tree (talk) 06:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not deleting what I don't agree with, I am deleting what is wrong. The image does not fail the first criterion as stated in the images fair use rationale. --E tac (talk) 19:26, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * As you seem to be determined to edit war over this to push your personal opinion through and evade a neutral decision by an administrator, I have now nominated the image for deletion. Regards, High on a tree (talk) 21:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

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Christian metal project upgrade
Hi. Could you take a look at the Christian Metal Wikiproject talk page and give your opinion on the project page and system upgrade suggestion? Since you started the project your opinion would be quite valuable. --Azure Shrieker (talk) 11:51, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Yo pal
I have previously talked to you in the past, and know we agree on the line break issue. I have also noticed that we have amassed some of the same enemies, such as the 156 IP address user w/ a billion different IP addresses, who often calls you a vandal. I have also noticed many of your edits around wikipedia, and you don't seem a vandal to me at all. Anyways, I figured I'd tell you I made a comment on the Iced Earth talk page about genres. See ya around. (ps im Navnlos, if you didn't know)  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 23:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Lol, I also noticed we have both been blocked once before for breaking 3RR on the Iron Maiden page...how ironic.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 23:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Resemblence of Childress to McRaney
Please see the discussion I started on the Childress talk page. Tanthalas39 (talk) 20:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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DevilDriver and Graveworm
Graveworm is a Black Gothic Meatl band. DevilDriver Is Groove Metal. On Top of that Dark Tranquillity has no influence on Children of Bodom. DT plays the The Gothenburg style of Melo Death Metal. Chidlren of Bodom does not.

Please for the love of God look into those band before you just readd them into a gerne they don't play or have any influence on. I listen to DT and I can tell you it's nothing like CoB if Graveworm is what is called power metal then people need there hearing checked. --Turemetalfan (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * They arent added into the genre--E tac (talk) 23:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

That's right becasue I had to take them out. For the fact that neither band plays that stlye of Metal.--Turemetalfan (talk) 23:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Someone else will probably add it back in, you aren't worth arguing with, you don't seem to get the fact that influences are often a different style and that is why they are listed as influences.--E tac (talk) 23:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you even now what the The Gothenburg style is? CoB dose not even come close to playing that style of metal. Dark Tranquillity has as much influence on Exterme Power Metal as At The Gates, In Flames, and Arch Enemy which is none. The influence they have is on other bands that play Melodic death metal. You might want to listen to the bands before you start helping someone add them in. And you might want to really look into what Graveworm plays. Have you ever heard anything Graveworm has ever done? How about DevilDriver? --Turemetalfan (talk) 23:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I do know what Gothenburg metal is, how does me listening to a band or not, or you listening to them or not have anything to do with if bands have stated them as influences or not?--E tac (talk) 00:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Becuase if you really listened to it you would not CoB does not play that style of Melo Death Metal.

To really make the point Dark Tranquillity zodijackyl lights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhEY2XghR-E Children of Bodom - Downfall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbr89uDTr9Y

Yeah that's a really big influence DT has had on CoB. They both play melodic death metal. Though CoB does not play the Gothenburg style. In fact DT never even started using keyboards until there ablum Projector (album). That's like seven to six years after CoB started up and at lest two years after CoB first major CD came out. What made DT melodic death metal was the melodic guitar riffs, melodic solos, and acoustic guitars not the keyboards. What makes CoB medolic death metal is the fact that on top of using the meldoic guitar riffs and solos they also use keyboards. Which they used from the start. DT did not use keyboards from the start in fact most DT fans feel the there frist CD Skydancer at times hit a little into the Black Metal area.

Well they both play Melo Death Metal it's different styles. The best exmaple of this is really In Flame compered to DT. --Turemetalfan (talk) 00:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You don't seem to grasp the fact that influences are not always the same style of what they are influencing.--E tac (talk) 00:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

And you don't seem to grasp or bother to show any proof where as I have. Would you care to back up that DT is any influence on CoB? Becasue I can keep going on and on as to how DT has not had any kind of influence on CoB. Becasue on like you I listen to almost ever kind of Mele Death Metal band there is and. DT, In Flames, At the Gates all started the Gothenburg sound and At The Gates never used keyboards. In Flames from time to time has but like DT use it more as Atmosphere for there sound. Where as CoB has the keyboard going full blast like most Power Metal band have done at times. But if you still don't get it. Let's go with yet another band. Amon Amarth - Runes To My Memory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFq2YJKYa-k

Like DT they play Melo Death Metal. But not as much in the Gothenburg sound. So do yoiu care to back up of how DT has influence on CoB and Extreme power metal. Because I have yet to see where they have any kind of influence on it when CoB goes in a total different path of Melo Death Metal then DT, At The Gates, Arch Enemy, In Flames and Amon Amarth. Those bands have more influence on Metalcore then Extreme power metal. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Why don't you tag it as needing a citation using the " " tag, then and see if whoever put it in there can back it up, if they can't then it will get removed.--E tac (talk) 01:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

That's assmuing the person ever comes back. The person is a classy case of edit page and never return again. Besides the whole Extreme power metal has been taged for the past two months. One of the reasons having to do with CoB and the debate that keeps going on about what gerne of metal the play. Kind of like the Slipknot page. :p Though I don't listen to Slipknot at all. --Turemetalfan (talk) 01:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Glen Drover
There really is no source needed, it is just a fact, but here it is:  Burningclean  &#91; Speak the truth! &#93; 01:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you read the article? It isn't a rumor. He will anounce the new guitarist next week. Burningclean  &#91; Speak the truth! &#93; 01:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I guess you can replace it. My money is on that he left. Megadeth is practically Megadave. Burningclean  &#91; Speak the truth! &#93; 01:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Photo at Gang
The photo was deleted along with nonsense covering the "broad street elite," as the photo appears to portray the same people in the BSE MySpace page. DavidOaks (talk) 02:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


 * In response to the message on my talk page -- well, if you say so. Nonetheless, if we're going to post this photo as a "typical street gang" we're going to need a lot more documentation -- not the names of the persons depicted of course, but location, affiliation -- I gotta say, the lunchy guy in the cowboy hat, the thoughtful looking fellow seated on the ground, and only one guy flashing generic sign, all in front of a pickup truck -- naaah, not very credible. Otherwise, it just doesn't belong as an authoritative illustration of the concept. DavidOaks (talk) 13:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, would you mind commenting on Featured article candidates/Alice in Chains? The FAC discussion was not closed, but it was re-started by the FA director. Fell free not to, that would be fine by me. Thank you, &mdash; Burningclean &#91; Speak the truth! &#93; 21:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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I meant that they wanted to become more notable for creating a wikiproject. Oh I think I know what you thought, what I really meant was that they would become notable like you, because I had never heard of the user and I had never heard of you or I would not of heard of you if I did not join the WP:CMM, I knew about Azure Shrieker because of the high quality of their articles, I went to their user page and found the WP:CMM so I join, I then did a little research and found your the creator of the project, I most likely would never of heard of you if you weren't the creator of the project. – Jerry  teps  23:11, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Plus to edit my talk page you should of made it like this;

What did you mean by this edit here?--E tac (talk) 22:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Like this.

– Jerry  teps  04:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm i'm going to make a simple version. i'll send the new version when i'm done. – Jerry  teps  04:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

New version:

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So Dark is The Con of Man —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.234.19 (talk) 21:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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I'm doing the best I can to improve Nostradamus (album) so I can justify changing my vote; I really don't like supporting the deletion of anything at all, and was hoping that I could get someone else to do the legwork of improving the article to the point where other people can read and not complain about it. There are some things that I think should be in it, such as it being a 'concept' album, but I don't know enough about the subject material to write about it. At the moment, I'm still scouring for more references. Cel Talk to me  05:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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Nostradamus (album)
Did KK Downing say "there's over 90 minutes of music so it could be Priest's first double album"? Or did he just say they recorded all that music and he doesn't really want to cut it down? — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  17:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)