User talk:Eagles247/sandbox2

Can you remove the interior tool line dividers from your proposed Infobox NFL player? The interior tool lines were a distinctive graphic design feature of Infobox college football player, and I am doing my darnedest to preserve visual distinctiveness of the college and pro player infoboxes. Also, did you receive my email through the Wikipedia system earlier this evening? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just checked my inbox, but I don't see any new mail. Hope you saved a copy :)  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:29, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * . Hey.  My email to you got bounced back last night from address e********x@gmail.com.  Are you still using the same Gmail account you were using when you enabled the WP email?  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:50, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, same one. Not sure why it bounced back.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:55, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay. I think I've got the complete address from the bounceback.  I'll try to re-send directly.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:57, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've got your e-mail saved somewhere, if not.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  19:07, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Just resent -- let me know if you get it. Cheers.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ping.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  21:30, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Got it. Typing a response to send in a bit.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:17, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Teaser graphics
As a little teaser of Phase II of the CFB graphics, here's what I want the section headers for the CFB box to look like:

I'm no wiki-coder, but once I'm shown the code pattern to accomplish a particular graphic device, I can certainly tinker with it and perfect it. As things stand right now, I want to incorporate the second option above (3-pixel highlight stripes) into the current version of Infobox college football player as the next graphics upgrade. The distinctive CFB graphics will be the horizontal "pinstripe" dividers between data fields, the "varsity stripe" section headers, and the "interior justification" where the field labels are right justified on one side of the justification line and the data fields are left justified on the other side of the line. Note that the color graphics will closely resemble the uniform formatting for the college sports navboxes we implemented five years ago. That's not an accident -- I eventually want to incorporate similar varsity stripe graphics into the team infoboxes for all of the college football, basketball, baseball and other sports articles, too. Each university sports program will have its own distinctive colors (as it should) and varsity stripe pattern for its team articles, but the overall pattern will be the same for all college sports articles -- bio and team infoboxes, as well as team, coach and championship navboxes.

After finishing Infobox college football player, it's been part of the plan to update and improve Infobox NFL player, too. The NFL player box will use the interior justification line layout for labels and data fields (like the CFB box), but will not use the CFB box's horizontal pinstripe data field dividers or college varsity stripe section headers. For the NFL box, I envision continuing to use the alternating team colors for section headers with the recently added black hair line around the outside of the section header bars. Thus, the two infoboxes will clearly be similar, but graphically distinctive.

Given the first 16 or 18 parameters of the two boxes will have the same names, we will also be able to facilitate quick conversion from the CFB box to the NFL box for those modern players who play in the pros. There will be a core of 2,000+ historical CFB players, however, that will never be converted because they're dead or their CFB careers are long over. These include our core bio articles of consensus All-Americans, Heisman Trophy recipients and other major award winners who never played in the pros.

That's the vision. We just need to keep plugging along in the face of some small-minded opposition that believes everything on Wikipedia ought to look the same (think "Infobox person" graphics from the 1980s -- yuck!). So, how do you like the varsity stripes, eh? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:17, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Pretty cool, I support it. Also, ping.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  01:13, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I quite like these too. I'd probably go with the 3 px one - 2px would be barely discernible with bright colours and 4 px takes up too much vertical space. Alakzi (talk) 02:28, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup, your thinking is much the same as mine. I'm also conscious of the amount of vertical space the added accents will add.  The 3-pixel option seems the best choice for the first section header, but I would also consider using the 2-pixel option for the second, third and subsequent section headers.  It's beyond my present template skills to do a full-scale mock-up using the varsity stripe graphics, but if you could add one to the sandbox, I would be grateful.  I'm pretty sure a strong majority of football editors are going to have the same reaction as E247.  With this, we can finally make effective use of the team colors in a sophisticated and tasteful manner.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:42, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Check out the current sandbox template with the full graphics and colors package created by Alakzi and Frietjes:. If you liked the example "varsity stripe" graphics above, you're going to love this. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:22, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  00:27, 2 April 2015 (UTC)