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The Christian teaching of ultimate universal reconciliation(UR) or "the salvation of all" is based on a syllogism(deductive reasoning) developed from five basic portions of scripture. In Colossians chapter 1 verses 15-20 Paul states "And He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,  and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

In Ephesians chapter one Paul says the same thing using slightly different terms Eph 1:7-10 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace which He lavished on us. In all wisdom and insight He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth.

In 1 Corinthians chapter 15 verses 21-28 Paul states For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ's at His coming, then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death. For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.

In Romans Chapter 11 verses 32-36 For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all. Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways! For WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR? Or WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK TO HIM AGAIN? For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever(eis aion-to the ages Young's Literal translation). Amen.

The syllogism is as follows. A:Being as that Christ created all and is over all, what is there that is not included in that all things in heaven and in earth that will not be reconciled- and still consist of all things. B: Being as that the mystery of God's kind intention which He purposed in Christ is an administration fulfilled in the summing up(gathering together) of all things- which things are not going to be gathered together in Him- and still consist of all things C: When the last enemy is made subject, being death, and Christ returns all things (having been now summed up, or gathered together in Him) so that God may be ALL IN ALL, what then can be not gathered together, and through what can God not be all- and still be all.

In other words, what can be eternally tormented or annihilated and still be reconciled? What then can be eternally tormented or annihilated and still be gathered together? What can be eternally tormented or annihilated and still be handed over to the Father so that God may be all in all? If all things are from Him through Him and To Him, what can then be eternally tormented or annihilated? No being, still in torment, or having been annihilated, can be reconciled, gathered into one in Christ, or have God be all in them.

If death is the last enemy to be abolished, how can death be destroyed if multitudes are tormented in the lake of fire which is the second death? If death is destroyed how can there remain anything other than life for all things?

Concluding that the "all things" of His creative work is the same "all things" of His redemptive work there is only one conclusion. Eventually-"an administration suitable to the fulness of times" and "each in his own order" -every knee shall bow and every tongue confess, whether on earth or in heaven or under the earth, that Jesus is Lord to the glory of the Father.

Combine this reasoning with the fact that the translation of various forms of the greek word "aion" meaning age- a time with a beginning and an end- into the several words, forever, everlasting and eternal- as can be clearly seen in any greek interlinear. Also, the translation of the hebrew word sheol(meaning the unseen or the grave)into the word Hades or Hell in over 60 instances in the old and new testaments- the word Hades or hell is never once an appropriate translation of Sheol, Tartarus(2 times) Gehenna(one time).

The difference between Ultimate Reconciliation and Unitarian Universalism is this. UU teaches that all paths lead to God. UR teaches that all will be reconciled- through the blood of Jesus Christ and submission to His Lordship- in a process of ages (some believing there will be measured punishments for the incorrigibly wicked in these future times to bring them into submission to God's love) wherein the plan of God will be consummated at a time in the future, having brought all beings into harmony and union with God the Father, and then abolishing all rule power and authority.

1Jn 2:1-2 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

Rom 5:18 So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.Eaglesway (talk) 01:49, 2 October 2009 (UTC)Eaglesway