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Someone was nominating you for the dreaded, the last thing i would expect would be a summary heading like that - the gauntlet of all the weirdos who haunt rfa debates would propably give you a swift one! cheers SatuSuro 05:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC) And as I have no interest in the process - probably the best read is Wikipedia:What adminship is not - cheers SatuSuro 05:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Indonesia - February Newsletter
Hello there! Please click here for the latest edition of the Wikiproject Indonesia Newsletter.

We hope it gets you interested in the some aspect of the project. Please contact Indon or Merbabu if you have any comments or suggestions (or do not want to receive this newsletter). regards Merbabu 08:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Time for a Malaysia Wikiproject!
Hi Earth, you are one of the more experienced Malaysian editors. What do you think about setting up a Malaysia wikiproject along the lines of the Indonesia one? I think our project has helped organize our articles and facilitated collaboration between editors, allowing us to make great strides. Would you and a few other Malaysian editors be interested in setting up a Malaysia wikiproject? It needn't be a huge amount of work to setup if you copy across the design for the Indonesia project. (Caniago 03:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

Where do I put this Image?
This is a picture of the KL Police HQ. If you know of any suitable article to place this picture in, then please do so. You can also change the licence if necessary. A better image would be appreciated since I seem to have taken it at the wrong time... --Bruin_rrss23 (talk) 05:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: I have also taken a picture of the Maybank Tower. It has a better view, but the picture is of a lower quality than the other one in the article. Is it suitable enough? You might be able to take a better picture of the tower. Regarding the licence, it's quite suitable enough so there's no need to change it. --Bruin_rrss23 (talk) 06:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Reverts to my Edits
__Earth, your efforts in reverting my edits to pages such as KOMTAR and the Klang Gates Dam as notable as they are work for Them in Their favor. They do not want us, especially us Malaysians to know these knowledge.


 * Just had a look at what was removed. ROFLMAO!!!! -- Bob K 09:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * do not mock the truth, please __earth and Bob K. It should be left to the malaysian whether the truth is accepted or not.62.30.230.62 12:27, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The Lord of Wikipedia has decided that the truth is not out there. __earth (Talk) 13:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * and how would he know, they are numerous and they are legion. be careful for they will find you i do not have an account or they can find me and blind the truth 62.30.230.62 13:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The Lord God Wiki knows, for He is omnipresent and ever knowing. None escapes the knowledge of the Lord God Wiki. All praise to all-knowing Lord God Wiki. I seek refuge only from Him; I fear not they that exist naught. __earth (Talk) 15:24, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

New map for msian city infobox
hey there Earth. i changed the map for the city Sandakan. what do u think? is too complicated? i made other models in Commons: Image:DynamicSabahblank3.PNG(with lighter border color) and Image:DynamicSabahblanknwhite.PNG(black n white). any comments welcomed. i havent got the district outline for other states tho'. kawaputra tok2me 14:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)


 * hey thanks alot. i can try create maps for other states when time permits and if i can get resources la. c how .. kawaputra tok2me 03:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Indonesia collaboration
Hello everybody. I’ve updated the current Indonesia collaboration to > > > Central Java < < <
 * New collaboration...

This article’s not in a very good condition but such a significant part of Indonesia, the cultural heart of the Javanese. Please contribute! Thanks to all those contributed to the previous collaboration Sidoarjo mud flow particularly Indon. For the next collaboration in a fortnight, I’d like to try something different. Let’s chose a stub rather than an already well-developed article. Here is a list of Indonesian stubs to choose (there’s two pages). Please check the article's importance rating – let's chose an important and significant article that will appeal to a broad range of people. Please do not choose an obscure and/or esoteric topic that is not very important. Please place your nomination here.
 * The next collaboration...

Any questions, please let me know. Kind regards --Merbabu 05:02, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy Earth day
--Ancheta Wis 20:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Hope you enjoy Earth Day
Let's hope humanity realizes dangers posed by Global Warming and dangers of polluting our environment in general. If we don't stop pollution of oceans, destructions of forests and wild animals, then I see no future for humanity - we are dummed to destroy ourselves. Bosniak 22:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

too fast...
Re in Malay (ethnic group) - you beat me to it! They are far superior and I often put them into articles. I guess you know that provides two columns although for some reason it doesn't work in Internet Explorer. regards Merbabu 04:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Laksamana
Do you know if Laksamana is a term used in Malay states other than Malacca and Johor? I posted this question on the article's talk page. I hope you know because you seem to know heaps about Malaysia's history.Wai Hong 13:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Your revert in ketuanan Melayu
I'm sorry you misunderstood my edit and reverted it. My edit reasons are as follows: In Wikipedia, encyclopedic content must be verifiable. I can't verify a statement if I can't read the source given. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. Good day. &mdash; Bluerです. なにか? 12:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The references from Jeff Ooi's blog given could not be reached. I tagged it so that a better citation can be given.
 * For Aliran, if it is a publication please put a precise citation format for it.
 * A source was cited twice, which was better if it shared the same source tags.
 * A citation must be accessible to everyone to verify its claims. The Malaysiakini link needed a reader to subscribe to it.


 * You are dead wrong. Reference stripping is considered grossly antisocial behaviour and has attracted extreme penalties in past arbitration cases. Don't do it. - David Gerard 17:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That these were subscription links is of course no reason to delete them--but they are dead links -- I may or course be wrong, but isn't that another matter--how do links that lead to no information contribute? (I'd suggest not deleting them, but commenting them out)DGG 19:04, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Some of the links is available in periodical, despite dead link. The (deleted) reference provide the titles of that articles in the periodical. My main reason of wanting to keep them was to keep from losing the ref. The format maybe wrong but that best way is to turn it into proper format, not deleting it outright. After all, the article is a featured article. Any deletion might downgrade the article quality. __earth (Talk) 19:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * if it had the reference to the print, then you are undoubtedly completely correct to keep it--the ref. to the print is, among other things, intended for this purpose. as for other dead links,I see it needs further discussion. DGG 05:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

new post
Hello Earth,

You seem to have looked at the binary economics article and could only comment that it was weird, sounding like pseudoscience.

I am really surprised that you, interested in environmental issues and a keen recycler, found nothing remarkable in this economic theory apart from its "weirdness".

Reading a blog entry of yours I find this: "Economics somewhat completed my ideological transition and thanks to it, my political thinking reached some sort of maturity (still idealized nonetheless; not too matured still)." and am further surprised that you do not see much wrong with the dominant economics framework.

However misshapen the presentation of binary economics is in the wiki article, the new economic paradigm it offers can free the world from bad economics that is driving us to make a living on the planet by destroying it.

I hope you will not dismiss me for my obvious lack of NPOV, but looking at the world in turmoil at the start of a new century (at the age of 70) makes me sad (no longer angry).

I think that too many words bury the truth, so I come to my point (which is not necessarily to do with binary economics):

All the environmental, social, and political problems facing the modern world are symptoms of bad economics. Neoclassical economics has gutted political economy by making the most important factor of production -- land -- disappear under "the skirt of capital" (The Corruption of Economics, Gaffney and Harrison (1994)). How can we hope to stop abusing the earth if economics does not see natural resources (land as living space being one category) as a special, primary factor on which the other two depend for their meaning and existence?

Thanks for listening. -- Janosabel 14:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

So, Earth, you find it weird. Four universities have made agreements to teach the subject and about ten are likely to want to in the immediate future. Are they weird as well?

Rodney Shakespeare. 23.50 29th May, 2007

External link deletion for perak
Hi Earth, i have some question on the external link and need to understand from you the reason for the deletion for perak.info. www.Perak.info containing information for perak state. If you really browse through the website, there are lots of useful information about Perak State. Is there any reason you delete the link? Under which rules allowed you to delete the link? Thanks Regards --KeithChee 14:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Earth, what do you mean by above? Are you trying to warming me or what? I'm trying to be polite and please be polite too. I'm here for discussion. I do nothing wrong here and I'm not affraid to stamp my name in every action i have done. You haven't answer me why you consider www.perak.info as spam and delete it? If you check the website content, it is all about the perak state information and not in the Perak. The website match WP:LINKS criteria. How to you charge on it? Thanks --KeithChee 04:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Just my two cents. I suspect that the sites were removed because they can be construed as falling under the criteria of Links to sites with objectionable amounts of advertising in WP:LINKS. Almost all the pages that I visited in www.perak.info contains some generic information about the State and seems primarily to consist of Google Adsense links; which I suspect is the main reason why this site along with a few others that I've seen around have been posted on Wikipedia articles. - Bob K 05:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Bob. Just want to have some discussion. How about __earth? Earth put his own external link www.maddruid.com, probably a blog with google adsense and etc. Is this same case as www.perak.info and violate the rules? Anyone will take action on this? I just want to get some answer by comparing the content. Or does it mean google adsense is doesn't matter as long as the content is helpful? In this case, www.perak.info should be useful and helpful. Thanks --KeithChee 05:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't place my blog on Wikipedia articles; it is on my user page instead. You might be free to place your site on your own userpage. Besides, if you are connected to the site, read WP:COI. Therefore, the case is quite different. __earth (Talk) 06:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Earth, thanks for your reply. Here is my reply on your doubt
 * Perak is not able to provide as many and up to data. Does Perak contain enough photos and info? i dont think so.
 * if you didn't tell me that it's selling thing, i dont realise it. It only have a link to the store.
 * Frankly speaking, I'm not the website owner. I got the URL from the web and i find it useful.
 * I'm not sure about the adsense. As far as i understand is the website have lots of information about the perak state and it's more compare with perak official tourism website. i have check both. Please correct me if i'm wrong, else please advice if the website is suitable to put in wiki. thanks --KeithChee 06:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * wiki Perak State should display all the information about Perak including travel. This is what i understand. If not, why Tourism Perak allowed to be in? Need your explanition.
 * This is not my problem. I'm just want to be a contributor.
 * Wiki is a place to share information. Useful information. If this is useful for me, i can share with others? Am i correct? Else if i think Perak state is not important in wiki, can i delete it? Definately cannot, right? I think we need to discuss your point 3, which is "You find it useful not it violates Wikipedia rules. So, it would be best if you use it for yourself.". Is this what wiki should be? Are you insulting me?
 * Tourism Malaysia is more to official thing and not really give enough info on certain place. Perak.info do.
 * I want to get thing right and know what is the reason, you can based on your own judges but please be fair. --KeithChee 09:28, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia articles are supposed to be encyclopedic, not promotional in nature. Arguably one can say that historical and administrative information is more important and there isn't enough information of such as well. To quote from WP:5P; Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Wikipedia is not a trivia collection, a soapbox, a vanity publisher, an experiment in anarchy or democracy, or a web directory, nor is Wikipedia a dictionary, a newspaper, or a collection of source documents - Bob K 10:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Bob K, That is why i put it as External link. I believe this external link can help wiki visitor to know more on Perak state. Perak.info containing history, culture, heritage, events & festivals, travel guide and etc. I believe this info can help wiki visitor to understand more on the term "Perak" in wiki.

this diff
Hi. I was curious if you could explain that... if the image is unfree then you should label it as such and have it put up for deletion... if it's not deleted as unfree then it should probably remain in the article. gren グレン 09:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You may very well be right but you need to put it up for deletion because... it should be deleted if it's not in any articles and unfree... but, I don't think you should remove it unless you at least try to have the image deleted as a copyright violation. gren グレン 18:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Your recent report to WP:AIV
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Your stop on commercial
Thanks a lot on this revert. Baseless defamation by highlight competitor names using wikipedia is unethical. No proof no names. Get rid of all those business attacks unless concrete facts are presented. this is what we should do - put back to the normal facts

Hi!

Am sad that your last revert was OK but latest revert as NOT OK. Can you help fix this Jeff Ooi posting by "Relaxtoday" defamation work? Refers to : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Johnleemk#165.228.129.11.27s_edits_on_Jeff_Ooi

(Again, I am new here, totally don't know how to fix the unjust issue. Getting blocked, you can read, find the truth and judge ethically please.)

Go Bucks!
If its reminiscent of last year when I rushed the field after we killed you, I doubt it. =) hmwith  talk  13:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Negaraku
Can you help me clean up the article? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You can consider this my act of penance. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Gratitude
Thankyou so much for your Excellent translation effort!

I am very very Grateful.

May you prosper!

(In the future, if you ever need any article to be translated into the Chinese language, then I would be glad to help you). --Jose77 01:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

The article has been created here. --Jose77 02:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I made some minor amendments to the translation; primarily in the terminology used. - Bob K 04:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Cyberjaya related
Hi Earth, i am pretty new to wikipedia in terms of adding contents. As I am a photographer myself, I would be glad if I add photos of cyberjaya and some other description related to cyberjaya. And the reason I want to inform this is, if I make any mistake please help me out. thanks a lot =D Avijit Paul 08:35, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Brunei
No one's answered so I'll just ask you. What does the word Darussalam mean in English and would Brunei's official name be the State of Brunei as Wikipedia gives or the Sultanate of Brunei as Brunei is a sultanate and this was what Wikipedia formerly gave. I've moving to a different home soon and don't know how much computer time I'll get so a quick response would be kind. Many thanks! Therequiembellishere 04:30, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * But since when is the Library of Congress right? I mean, the CIA World Factbok has so many holes in it, it's a shame. Does Darussalam mean Abode of Peace? Therequiembellishere 14:41, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That is really interesting. Therequiembellishere 15:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

A2
Unfortunately, I don't live there anymore. Sorry. Funnyhat 17:48, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

UMNO
Not according to Encarta's article. I was looking for an official site in English, perhaps you can point one out and I'll change it back. Dreadstar †  16:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Just FYI, I temporarily put the WP:V source for the name here. When you've examined the evidence, I'll remove it.  But, yes, absolutely, if the name is registered with the British version of the word, then it definitely should be put back RS or no RS to the contrary... Dreadstar  †  16:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It would be great to have a truly authorative source for the name. a Google search shows a lot of hits... Dreadstar  †  16:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You know, to save all this back and forth on such a relatively minor issue, I'll put it back until I can check the orgs own site. I believe you, especially since Malays' English is derived from the British.  Dreadstar  †  16:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh. I see. You've already moved it back; within a minute of your note to me. Why even bother asking me to do it? You should have just stated that you'd already taken care of it. Thanks a lot. Dreadstar †  16:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Khazanah Nasional
Hi, I entered the Khazanah Nasional public lecture yesterday which you deleted by saying its a one time event that gives too much emphasize on lecture whereas khazanah is a sovereign fund, not about organizer of public lecture. Although they are a sovereign fund, this public lectures do hold strong importance. I attended both the Kofi Annan And Prof Yunus lectures and I can assure you this event goes along with Khzanah Nashional's role in the country. If you just walk around near KLCC or attend any of the next lectures you will understand what it is more than just a "one time event". And after your visit to any of them, if you still feel it doesn't deserve a place, you can keep it deleted. And talking about one time event, why does wikipedia have entries on sept 11 ?

Regards

I c. Well, since you are from that group, you know more then me then. But after attending both lectures, I still felt it was something very strong and it should be mentioned. But well, having said that, as you are more experience then me and you are from that group, i will obey your decision. thanks. Paul 01:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Labor
Hey Earth, I've noticed you pulled my LaborFair.com links from the labor related wiki pages. I work for a company that works in the Labor industry in the US. I didn't mean to post as spam, I just wanted people to be aware that we are a for profit company with a social mission that is fighting for the rights of temporary labor workers in the US. Please let me know what I need to do to get our organization on wikipedia. I have a number of articles from publications in the US. Would links to these articles be appropriate?? Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Justinohan (talk • contribs).

You're Invited!
Apa Kabar,

I have just joined WikiProject Malaysia and have contributed to the article Malaysian Indian by expanding it. Hope you like it. Regards.

Sriwijaya
Hello Earth, and thanks for the warning. I have replied in the Talk:Srivijaya page, Anda Djoehana 04:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Indonesia collaboration = Jakarta
Hello there, this fortnight's Indonesia project collaboration is > > > Jakarta < < <. Please contribute. The most important thing is to find reliable references for all existing information, and for any new info added.

Also, please help nominate an article for the next collaboration at the collab nomination page. An underdeveloped or stub article is preferred over a long and developed article. Please nominate up to two articles. any questions, please let me know. Kind regards and happy editing. --Merbabu 11:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

undoing of Sabah's Indepence Date
Why do you undo all the references, legal documents and school history books? The pretext that they are repetions is a fallacy. The fact that there are disputes as to the dates must be recorded but it is offical wikipedia policy to favour offical and legal documents over websites or news editorials as references.

I shall therefore undo what you've undone. If you insist on a war, then I shall refer you to wikipedia. You can take a look at the text book Sejarah tingkatan 3, 2005, and my blogspot, sabahcolonised.blogspot.com for pictures of the legal document on the formation of Malaysia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Othmanskn (talk • contribs) 15:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Malaysia Day
Hey Earth, u are from Peninsular rite? Just wanted a confirmation from you. Currently, Malaysia Day (September 16) is not a public holiday in Peninsular Malaysia, rite? Im quite sure it is not, but im not 100% sure. Can u confirm this? kawaputra torque 17:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks Earth! I wasnt sure when editing Malaysia Day page. Personally i find this a bit odd. But thats another matter la. :-) kawaputra torque 12:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

May 13 Incident
I've noticed you have made a huge editing on the 13 May article of most of the users submitted. I need to tell you i've put it up again on the article that u deleted. Those article and comment was based on actual reference to Malaysia Encyclopedia ^ a b c Professor Dato' Dr. Zakaria Haji Ahmad. The Encyclopedia of Malaysia, "Government and Politics". ISBN 981-3018-55-0. Please refer to this article if you are not happy with the content. The editorial consist of all the proffessors, dato's, tun and other prominent names which you can refer on the book.

WikiProject:Malaysia collaboration of the Month is Malaysia
Hi there. Based on our votes we have selected Malaysia to be our Collaboration of the month for October. Please feel free to contribute and make suggestions to improve the article. Thanks! kawaputra torque 05:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Explanation needed
The information I put in to the Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909 was both factual and relevant to the understanding of the history of the region. Why has the fact been removed?Devraj Singh 08:17, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Eastern Plaguelands
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KC
Hi earth, I have been trying to interact a bit with KC on his user page. I feel we need to go that step to try for concensus, and if not then to request perhaps an RfC - what do you think? docboat 04:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:20071110BersihRallyHafiz.jpg
Hello dear Earth, I am sort of curious - wanted to ask you one thing. Is it possible to upload these kind of pictures to the commons, so that other wikipedias can use them too, or even other wiki projects - I sometimes write for the german wikinews project, which can use multi media files only by having these pictures uploaded to commons.wikipedia.org. Best regards --Lofor 14:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I think it was "Drimagasie", no? ;) Cheers, --Lofor 15:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, at least I tried :) I was in KL beginning of August this year and especially after watching the things on YouTube I must say, in a certain way it's nice too see that malaysian people do something and protest, on the other hand it is quite terrifying how the police reacted. But thanks a lot for the pics ... I send you the link as soon as my little wikinews article is published ... Cheers, --Lofor 16:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, you should consider to use the Commons-Project to upload your pictures in order to make those available for other Wikipedias, or Wiki-Projects. I felt free to upload picture. As "promised" here a link to the german Wikinews article. Cheers, --Lofor 17:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

WP Malaysia December 2007 collaboration of the month
Hi there, based on this month's total votes, our collaboration of the month will be none other than our capital city as well as Malaysia's primate city of Kuala Lumpur! Please feel free to make improvements on the article, or comment or give ideas on ways to further improve the quality of the article. Thanxzsz kawaputra torque 03:58, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Yvonne Foong
May I draw your attention to the Yvonne Foong article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Foong). It seems like a vanity piece to me. Can you examine it? Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.184.30.44 (talk) 01:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

WP Malaysia: January 2008 collaboration
Hello, based on the total votes collected in December, our collaboration of the month will be ♦ Mahathir bin Mohamad ♦. Please feel free to make improvements on the article, or comment or give ideas on ways to further improve the quality of the article. Thanks. kawaputra torque 18:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Revamping bus route lists on railway station articles
If you haven't notice, there has been quite a number of tables of bus routes added in articles on railway stations by some anon on a rotating IP, including those of the local LRTs and Monorail. It's not so much the usefulness but rather the proportion of the table against the rest of the article, which often drawfs more relevant info on the stations (ie KLCC LRT station), all while list of RapidKL bus routes could be used as a centralised article, while all the redundancy could be minimised into links of routes (ie 66th Street–Lincoln Center (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line)). What's your comment? - Two hundred percent (talk) 12:47, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for comment on Category Redirect template
Because you are a member of WikiProject Categories, your input is invited on some proposed changes to the design of the Category redirect template. Please feel free to view the proposals and comment on the template talk page. --Russ (talk) 22:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)