User talk:Eatingslowly

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Kenja Communication
Please do not remove sourced information as you did in the Kenja Communication page. (Specifically, the Cornelia Rau section, as well as the note it was overturned on technicality.) Also, your comment "many thousands of Australians have in fact, passed through the doors of Kenja and relate extemely positive experiences of the organisation. But whoever keeps editing this article doesn't want people to know about that." is unsourced, the second sentence is a violation of WP:AGF and in general inappropriate for an encyclopedia, and a violation of WP:Undue Weight as evidenced by the type of media attention Kenja attracts. If you are either a member of Kenja or employed by Kenja please be aware of the conflict of interest policy of Wikipedia. Thank you. RB972 03:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Got your first point - no probs. Re member or employee - nup. No conflict of interest. Know of them and thought article was just amazingly biased against. Still is. Newcomer to Wikipedia, so some understanding of the rules pls. Not sure what violation of Undue Weight means, but thought the whole premise of Wikipedia was to be unbiased and would not like to see anyone referred to in the terms you have for these people. Undue weight for or against ? Of course you can reference stuff (reference Jerry Springer if you like) but where's the fairness in referencing only those who want to fling mud? If you do stand for balance, seek out some positive references re self-development! Jeepers. Anyway, not my fight to fight.


 * Where are there positive references? I haven't found them. Concerning the undue weight part, well, it's not up to you to decide how much weight is valid, it depends on the reliable sources. That's how Wikipedia works; see WP:Verifiability, WP:Reliable Source and WP:No Original Research. Potentially, this can lead to injustice. The reliable sources can be wrong. However it's not Wikipedia's place to right this wrong. You need to get (or find) another reliable source to publish a contradictory view, and then it can be put in Wikipedia. Concerning your fairness comment, a source deserves to be used depending on how reliable they are, not what they actually say. Every article does not deserve to have positive represented as much as negative; it depends on the sort of media attention it gets.


 * If you are so concerned I would suggest your best bet is to re-add the quote from Justice Kirby back in. However, I don't know if there are any other pro-Kenja stuff which would get past WP:Verifiability. Hope that clears things up, RB972 04:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Cheers and thanks for tips Eatingslowly 06:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)