User talk:Ebyabe/Archive 22

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Hey, how do I go about creating a map for National Register of Historic Places listings in Downtown Davenport, Iowa? I'm planning on using File:National Register of Historic Places listings in Downtown Davenport, Iowa.png C T J F 8 3  19:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey back. :) I knew I talked about this previously, and here it is. Thank goodness for archiving. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   State of the Union   ‖ 19:14, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I started something like that, I guess I just need to put the dots on. Do you recommend I just use a image edit program and put dots on, then map out and link the sites? The other way of finding the longitude and latitude looks like a pain. C T J F 8 3  19:22, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ack, my bad. That's for stuff like counties. What you want is Location map+. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 19:30, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ya, see, that looks like a pain in the ass to find all the longitude and latitudes for these places, unless you have a suggestion for that? C T J F 8 3  19:33, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The only other way is to do it as XY coordinates, like the infoboxes used to be. Talk about a pain! I wish there was an easier way. Looking at the google map, I'm not sure it'll work anyway. With so many sites clustered together, it's going to look very clumpy. The reason the NHL maps work is b/c the sites are relatively spread out across a state. Even then, it can take some jiggery. See Florida NHLs map. Back to you. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 19:48, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ya, I was hoping File:National Register of Historic Places listings in Downtown Davenport, Iowa.png would be zoomed in enough to have enough room for the properties. Then again, it won't be that big on the article page. You have far more NRHP experience then me, what do you think? My original map of just the outline area? Putting dots with a photo editing program and then linking with your first suggestion? Or your 2nd suggestion, and try to figure out the long/lat of the properties? C T J F 8 3  19:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, outline is probably the best, and if someone wants specific locations, they can use Google maps link. C T J F 8 3  20:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I keep thinking of stuff....can I export all the points from the Google map link, and import them on a free map? C T J F 8 3  20:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just like me. Once the mind starts going, you can't make it stop. Damn you, brain! :) If you have some photoediting program, like Photoshop, I guess you could copy a free map and add the dots in that way. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 20:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll have to see how it looks on the page. Thanks, C T J F 8 3  20:08, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * (stalker) You could do a 1,2,3... think like is seen in many tourist brochures (e.g. this one that I found through a random google search) and identify the numbers in a caption. I did something like this with Historic districts in Meridian, Mississippi and File:Meridian, MS Historic Districts.PNG. Just a suggestion.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 21:37, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

 * It's warm down here in Florida, so let's trade. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Inspector General   ‖ 20:46, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * lolz wish I was in Florida! this section needs updating, they make it sound halfway decent: Frostburg,_Maryland  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xtgyal (talk • contribs) 20:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Only been thru the Delmarva Peninsula part of Maryland, so I'll take your word for it. Been to Wheeling, which is close. I envy your mountains, since this is what counts for a mountain in Florida. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 23:59, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Pinellas County list
Thanks for the input at WT:NRHP. Just one question — do you avoid photographing empty lots for destroyed properties? I note that you have a clear address for the Potter House, which was destroyed before 1991. I generally do that myself, and I've had to do it a lot in some places — my SHPO doesn't delist very often, and some lists (e.g. Allen County) have tons of parking lot photos. Maybe that's why we have the third-highest number of listings? Nyttend (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * After several trips, I only recently found the info about the Potter House being gone. I have a picture of the site, but there's a modern building there that's part of the USF St. Pete campus. Weirdly, it's next to the John C. Williams House. Maybe I'll take a photo of it next time I'm down there, now that I know.
 * Actually, I tend to take pictures of sites of destroyed buildings, then add them to the articles with a caption. Like Dixie Court Hotel and Hibiscus Apartments. It always makes me a bit sad when I find those. Once I got home and verified, I did report them to the historical folks up in Tallahassee. And I noticed a few weeks ago that they finally on a pending list for removal, along with some others I reported.
 * It's kind of odd now, since most of Florida's photographed. Plus I visited almost all the state parks, which is how this started. I'm hoping to get motivated again to roadtrip, since there's still a few odds and ends that are accessible. Down in the Keys, and some closer to home. Plus I can get better shots of some sites. Now that the weather's getting nippy down here, that tends to get me going, since it's ideal photography weather. As can be seen by the St. Joseph Peninsula State Park picture at the top of my userpage. Anyway, 'nuff rambling. Happy holidays. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 03:40, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I really hate taking pictures of driveways and hedges, when you can't get close enough to see a house. I've got a few like that. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Union of Opposites   ‖ 04:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, you've got quite the advantage being in Marion County. I've gotten the majority of Indiana listings, but I'll likely not be able to get vast numbers of other photos; there are five counties with 40+ listings I've not photographed, and four of them are too far away for a grad student's time and money.  A pity that I'm not able to be in Ohio for more than occasional visits, as Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, and Cleveland have vast numbers of sites without images.  Ohio's gone the MPS route a lot more than Indiana; the typical Indiana county with lots of sites simply had lots of individual listings, while many Ohio counties (e.g. Champaign County and the Erie County sites that I visited today, including the burned boat) are sparse except for close clusters in specific areas: apparently they wanted to nominate HDs in these areas and found too many intrusions, so they just nominated every wouldbe HD-contributing-property individually.  Nyttend (talk) 04:16, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Part of why I like living here is it's strategic location. It's about six hours to Pensacola and five to Miami. So daytrip-able in either direction. :) I like Ohio. My Mom and I were up there in '04, during my two week vacation. We drove thru 12 states in 12 days. Did Nashville to Newark in one day, for example. My boss at the time lived in Indiana, so I waved in that direction as we drove through Cincinnati. Ohio was one of the highlights. Dawes Arboretum, downtown Newark, the Great Circle, and Velvet Ice Cream Company. All unplanned too. Which for me was an eye-opener, overplanning OCD guy that I am. :)
 * What part of Indiana do you live in? Mayhaps you could hit some of Michigan or Illinois or Kentucky. My last major roadtrip was down the Georgia coast from Savannah south. Maybe I'll daytrip to West Virginia. Yes, I am potentially crazy enough to daytrip to West Virginia. I really hope I can go to the big Wiki meetup in DC. That way I can visit Mom and Dad at Arlington. We shall see. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 04:39, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm at the main campus of Indiana University in Bloomington. Michigan is definitely too far away for me, and I've gotten everything or nearly everything in all the Illinois counties along the Wabash.  I hope to get some Louisville pictures — I've completely skipped Indiana's metro Louisville counties because I don't want to do them and skip Louisville.  That, in turn, will need to wait a while yet: with a bridge out, they have signs on I-65 as far north as Indianapolis telling travellers that it can take a long time to get to Louisville — sometimes it can take an hour or more just to cross the Ohio.  And thanks for the Newark photos; I photographed the earthworks (and Flint Ridge, too) while visiting a relative in Licking County, but I've not yet gotten the chance to go downtown and duplicate your Sullivan bank photo.  Nyttend (talk) 14:58, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There's Missouri, that's not too far from you. But you may have gotten all the nearish stuff already. Evansville and Owensboro, maybe? I hear you about construction. Mom and I would joke that a trip wasn't a success unless we encountered construction. My suspicion is that it's b/c so much federal road money got released to try counteracting the recession. So projects that would have been spread out got going all at once all over the place. I'll be happy when you get more Licking County photos. I took those with crappy disposable cameras, since I didn't go digital until 3 years later. Btw, Sullivan bank? I don't remember that. I recall shooting the courthouse and the theatre. When you do get there, go up to Utica to the Velvet Ice Cream Company. It's worth the trip. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 23:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You can get lucky though. When I got to the address for the Dr. C. B. Wilson House, there was a bank there. I took a photo, to show where it was. But when I got home and did research, I found it hadn't been destroyed, but moved, and even got the address. When I was there a few months later, I found it (with a bit of difficulty) and got shots. The old site and the house are in the category for it at WikiCommons. Sometimes you get lucky. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 00:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was thinking of the Home Building Association Bank (image); turns out it was photographed by Carptrash, not you. I went through Utica a year ago on the way to the same relative's house for our (late) Christmas celebration; the same trip yielded the rural Dixon Mound and the Fuller House in Utica, plus this church in Utica that used to be part of my denomination.  Definitely didn't notice the ice cream place; perhaps I'll try to return at some point.  To address your first point — I just finished Evansville this month, along with three other counties in southwestern Indiana.  Owensboro was too far out of the way, but I considered Henderson across the river; however, I spent a lot of time at lunch visiting friends I'd not seen since the 1990s, and finishing up the Indiana counties between Evansville and Bloomington was a bigger priority than getting the Henderson County sites.  And Missouri is simply too far away for me right now; it would be a 500-mile round trip, which is more than going even to the farthest part of Indiana.  I guess I'm stuck with knocking out more of Indiana; since there are so many rural counties with just a few sites, my accomplishments are more of adding counties to the fully-illustrated list and less of adding raw numbers of sites.  For me, the southwestern quadrant of Indiana is the counties that are at least partially south of Interstate 70 and at least partially west of State Road 135; if I can photograph 12 specific locations, I'll have photos for every single NR-listed location in southwestern Indiana.  Nyttend (talk) 23:44, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

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Florida cultural events
Hello Ebyabe

I now live in Saint Augustine, Florida, and plan to work with cultural organizations and institutions in the area. Since you are a fantastic article creator in all things related to Florida, I want reach out to you. :-)

In particular, I want to talk about coordinating the local Florida events related to Wiki Loves Monuments 2012 that will happen in September 2012. Since, the United States 2012 event plans to focus on photographing sites found on the U.S. NRHP, I would like to talk with you since you have created a large number of the current images, articles, and lists in Florida. While living in Kentucky, my husband and I took and uploaded images of places on the NRHP so I have a general idea of the process. I'm most interested in finding the gaps in coverage of historical sites in FL, and figuring out the best way to get these covered. We have a good amount of lead time so I think that this is doable.

Additionally, I plan to work with the Saint Augustine 450 Commemoration (a four year initiative to celebrate the founding of Saint Augustine and settlement of FL through educational and legacy projects) to see how that we can add value to their current events, and possibly plan some joint initiatives.

Would love to hear your thoughts? FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 21:32, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I will do some thinking, then. :) As far as photos, Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Florida is a good place to start. I've managed to get photos of most of the NRHP sites in the state. I have a list though (this one) of ones that need photos, or could use better ones. To see them on a map, go here.
 * Good that you're wanting to do this. And oh, St. Augustine. One of my favorite-ist cities. I'm looking forward to visiting for Taste of St. Augustine at the Amphitheatre in April, then heading up and hitting downtown for the day. Perchance we could cross paths? :) That's it for now. Look forward to hearing more ideas and thoughts about this. Florida's 450! And she doesn't look a day over 375. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 00:33, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yay! this list is exactly what I was looking for. :-)


 * In general, how complete was your picture taking in Historical Districts throughout the state? I was thinking that many Historical Districts would likely benefit from more images being taken if we were going to get them beyond a stub, and especially if our goal is GA or FA. Do you have a list of addresses where you took pics? Additionally, we might want to focus on getting more detailed architectural pictures of some other places that would be good candidates to be featured articles.


 * It would be great if we could get together in April. St. Augustine is a fun place to hang out especially if you like historical stuff. :-) FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 20:31, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Waah! And I thought I was the only one who could have 15 thoughts in your head at the same time. Think you got me beat. :)
 * You know, I forgot maybe the most important link, to WikiCommons. All the Florida NRHP photos live in Category:National Register of Historic Places in Florida. You can root around there and see what you think might be needed.
 * As far as HDs, I always try to take photos of several buildings in each one, to try to get a representative sampling. If it's a small HD, I can get nearly all of them. I did that recently in Cassadaga. But if it's a big one, I'll usually take half-a-dozen or so. As far as elevation beyond stubs, it's more about sourced info for the articles than number of photos. Though photos help.
 * As far as addresses, I didn't keep track, per se. But if you tell me which ones you'd like addresses for, I can use my memory (and Google Street View) to figure that out.
 * Ironically, some of the articles I'd recommend trying to improve are the St. Augustine related ones. With it being the oldest continuously inhabited city in the continental US, there should be more GAs related to it. Any particularly unique places would probably be good candidates for improvement too. The Alligator Farm (one of the oldest tourist attractions in the state), St. Bernard de Clairvaux Church (oldest European built structure in the US, kind of a fluke), the House of the Seven Gables in Mayo (not NRHP, but oddly interesting), you see what I mean. That'll do for now. Later! -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 21:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

A long-delayed response
While responding to a note from Smallbones, I saw the "Fish cabins etc" section and remembered the idea of having you go SCUBA diving, so I decided to look it over again for fun — and then I saw that you'd responded there back in October to a comment I made, and I'd never before seen it. I've been able to learn locations for most sites here in Indiana; archaeological surveys were published (not just in the archaeological community, but published in general) for many counties, and as a student at Indiana University, I have access to many of these through the library system. The Sullivan County site where I was going to use flashers (I didn't end up using them; it was along an isolated dirt road, and the only mammal I saw was a farmer's dog a few hundred feet away) is Daugherty-Monroe. No widely-published archaeological survey has been produced for Sullivan County, but the site was published in the Proceedings of the Indiana Academy of Science in 1971. Nyttend (talk) 20:49, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

New Wikipedia User
Hi, I just started using Wikipedia for an English project and needed to find some other users to help me make sure I'm headed in the right direction. If you have time, would you mind reading over my article and giving me some feedback? My article is on the Charleston Tea Plantation. Thank you. Ballerina311 (talk) 16:21, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Very good, especially for a first article! I added some tags on the talk page, which might help it get some extra attention. Some pictures would help. Check around at WikiCommons, the repository for many pictures. If you're able, perhaps you can get some pictures, or know someone willing to make a roadtrip to take some for the article. Keep up the good work! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 17:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your help! Ballerina311 (talk) 20:40, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Bubble Houses (Hobe Sound, Florida)
Hi, thanks for your message about the Olympia School. I took those pictures on the way back from Jonathan Dickinson. I did the Bubble Houses (there are two) in the morning on the way down. I just posted the article. clariosophic (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Huzzah! I think next time I'm in the area, I'll have to check them out. Love kitschy stuff like that, doncha know. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 23:48, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Even though I've lived in this part of Florida for over 45 years, I had never heard of the Bubble Houses until the recent controversy. For more kitsch, you'll like the Shell Bazaar in Port St. Lucie. It was built in 1953 on US 1 in the middle of nowhere before PSL was even thought of, so I've known about it as long as I've lived here. It's easy to miss for newcomers, though, because it in the middle of wall-to-wall strip malls, restaurants etc. clariosophic (talk) 02:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Articles you started
I'm having trouble accessing the list of articles you started. The link on your userpage doesn't seem to be working. I thought I had seen a page previously with listing in various categories? I had wondered why they weren't wikilinked...

As far as photos... I haven't searched extensively, but it would be good to add some shots to the articles on:
 * Fort Homer W. Hesterly Armory
 * Taco Bus
 * Pigeon racing in Shady Hills, Florida
 * William Dean Chocolates
 * Dupree Gardens‎

Assuming I can find adequate sourcing I am planning to add articles on Broccato's, Hot Rod's Barbeque and maybe Life Force Academy.

What about dead historical figures?

Take care. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:32, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure to which link you're referring. I don't think there's a link that directs to article I've started. Plus I've not done much article creation for a while. I've been more into the photography thing.
 * Speaking of which, I can add the ones you mentioned to the list. If you can give me addresses for the others, I can see about adding them as well. I see that they're mostly in the Tampa Bay area. The next time I'm planning to be down in that area is October of this year. But if I get there sooner, I'll letcha know. As far as dead historical figures, my TARDIS is broke at the moment, so can't help with that. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Inspector General   ‖ 16:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay. Not sure which link I'm thinking that I saw. On your userpage there is "The whole swotting mess can be found this way", but the "way" link doesn't seem to work for me. Happy travels. I will try to touch base before Oct. :) Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, frack, you're right. It wasn't a list of articles, just an activity count, brokend into where edits were made (mainspace, templates, categories, etc). It looks like the account under which that tool was has gone away. That's sad. Anyway, look forward to hearing from ya later. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 17:38, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Pine Island
Thank you for catching that. 98.82.90.121 (talk) 21:02, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite welcome. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 22:42, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Meadow Brook Hall question
Hi, I saw the below on the Meadow Broom hall page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadow_Brook_Hall I went to it to see what was related and it's a dead page. I went to take it out and don't know how. Do you? Thanks

References

Inline


 * 10.^ Drew Stanton (22 July 2009). "My Crazy Summer". drewstanton.com. http://drewstanton.com/blog.html. Retrieved 2011-11-17.

General — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.66.207 (talk) 00:49, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Tagged as a dead link. Thanks for the note. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 19:35, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.66.207 (talk) 15:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Velimir Ivanovic/ć
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For you

 * Thankee. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Inspector General   ‖ 16:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Florida Architecture, 100 Years, 100 Places
Hi you might be interested in this: Buildings listed on the AIA's Florida Chapter list of ''Florida Architecture: 100 Years. 100 Places'' I've created a cat for it and have started adding article to it. I also have some in my sandbox for it. clariosophic (talk) 18:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I was looking for more excuses to roadtrip! :) I'm hitting A Taste of St. Augustine this Saturday, and maybe I can add some stuff from that list. I notice that there seem to be a lot of more modern architecture than I'm used to photographing. But I kind of like the Prairie Style/Frank Lloyd Wright style, and it'll be interesting to see something other than Queen Anne/Victorian/Mediterranean Revival stuff. Oh, the Bounty will be at St. Augustine this weekend, which is a fringe benefit. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 02:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That's odd, there's nothing in St. Augustine on the list. Closest is Ponte Vedra Beach. I guess it is mostly modern-ey stuff. That's OK, I can still add stuff to my lists. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 02:33, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The list covers the last 100 years, so older buildings like the Tampa Bay Hotel are excluded. It seems to focus to me to focus mostly on a few areas, perhaps where the AIA had active voters, and buildings with well established legacies. Interesting anyway. Thanks for sharing Clarion. Candleabracadabra (talk) 13:20, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Weather cooperated, so I was able to get shots like this. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 03:07, 1 May 2012 (UTC) St. Aug HMS Bounty and BoL01.jpg and Bridge of Lions]]


 * Y'all might be interested in the Florida Artists Hall of Fame. Take care and happy travels. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:48, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Gale College Historic District
I'm working on an article for the defunct Gale College in Galesville, Wisconsin. I used google to search and I keep running across in websites refering to the Gale College Historic District but I see no listing in National Register of Historic Places listings in Trempealeau County, Wisconsin. I see it on the nrhp and I generated an infobox from the Elkman tool. Would you look into it please?  Royal broil  01:50, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, it appears to be a legitimate listing. Possibly it wasn't added to the original list. Looks like the Second Street Bridge (added 1987 - #84000608) should be on it too. Though they may be "determined eligible, but owner objected" ones. Just checked the NRHP database, and can't find the bridge. The HD is there though. Text and Photos haven't been digitized, but it does appear to be a valid listing. I think it'd be OK to add it to the list. Hope that helps. Back to sorting through my St. Augustine from Saturday. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 03:03, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking it out. I added it. I photographed it a few years ago just because it was a defunct college which is also interesting. I didn't know it was listed until now!  Royal broil  00:01, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! :) I've deviated from my planned itineraries more than once to photograph something that caught my attention. Gotta go with the flow, doncha know. Glad to be of help. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Union of Opposites   ‖ 00:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Edwinola
FYI. Used a couple of your pics. Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 17:18, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:FLparkhrs
Template:FLparkhrs has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. ...William 12:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for helping categorize them all. Yeah, I have taken a few photos around the state, haven't I ? :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 23:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hope I'm not screwing things up. Let me know if I am. I'm just getting the hang of the Commons and the category stuff. You have done great things there. And opened my eyes to Florida (which I thought I knew.) MathewTownsend (talk) 23:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * p.s. Maybe you could explain the "gallery" stuff vs "category". I can't find an explanation on the Commons. MathewTownsend (talk) 23:12, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You seem to be doing OK. It's best to not have too many photos in a category, I think, which is why I try to create subcategories where I can. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 23:19, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Could you explain to me what those arrows mean on the category thingie? Also, what direction to they go in? Like, what should be first in the lineup and what should be last? And how does one rearrange the categories, or does it matter? I can't figure it out. (Most of the way I do it now it out of frustration from not being able to find what I am looking through by using the categories.) Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 00:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You know, I never noticed the arrows before. I just use +/- (the plus sign over the minus sign) to add categories. Gimme an example or two of where you're confused, and I'll see if I can suss it out. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 02:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Arrows like here: (this one I don't care about) - just an example) commons:Category:Gasparilla Pirate Fest. I've tried the little skinny one's out, but I don't see what they do except produce a SAVE button - but I don't see the point of that button either. Does it matter what order the categories are in? Is there a way of changing the order if it does matter? MathewTownsend (talk) 17:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * For the example you gave, if you mean does it matter if "Parades" or "Culture of Tampa" is first, no. I've never noticed the other arrows either. Do you mean sorting a category within another category? That's not extremely important. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 22:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

p.s. You have done an awesome job! (Also, there is a historical marker for the Babe Zaharius Golf course in Tampa, but I can't find any mention of it. Or pics. And I'm sure there used to be some. MathewTownsend (talk) 00:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I didn't even know there was a Babe Zaharius Golf course, much less one in Tampa. So obviously I didn't take any photos of markers. I can add it to my list, but I dunno when I'll be getting back down there. October, maybe.
 * Babe Zaharias? Candleabracadabra (talk) 19:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Btw, I have a blog that I ramble mostly about food and travel. I'm starting a regular feature where I'm going to give roadtrip itineraries around Florida. Scenic and historic stuff, with map links. Just FYI. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 02:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I did find your blog and really like it. Regarding Babe Zahariaus, there is a golf course, her husband bought it for her and she owned it for seven years. For some reason, I can't find anything on the web about her, but I'm sure it was given historic status a few years ago, after the city buffed it up. MathewTownsend (talk) 17:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Well deserved Barnstar. Thank you for you photographic contributions and other collegial efforts to improve the encyclopedia. Candleabracadabra (talk) 18:54, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 22:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)