User talk:Ebyabe/Archive 23

Carrabelle River
I used your photo for an article I started on the Carrabelle River. It is weirdly difficult to find basic information on the river like its length and geography. I'd like to add something about the Carrabelle River Bridge that I think crosses it as part of 98? Maybe i'm just slow today. Take care. Happy travels. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Okey-dokey. That's one of my favorite areas of the state. I highly recommend visiting, if you've not already. Yeah, the bridge is part of US 98. The view's pretty nice, I think. Cheers! -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 20:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

camera
Hi,

You've inspired me to get a camera and take some pictures of areas in Florida I think are overlooked and not represented. I can't believe there's no photos of Kissingen Springs, for example. And the article is horribly neglected though there's many sources.

My neighbor has a Kodak EasyShare camera (probably like yours) that she's had for a while a really likes. So maybe I'll get one of those, since you've gotten such good results.

Everywhere I look I see things that could be photographed for the encyclopedia - though I'm not systematic like you! Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 20:54, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Huzzah, I'm inspirational! :) The camera I have now (EasyShare C195) I got last year at Wal-Mart for about 60 bucks. I highly recommend it. You needn't spend a bucket of money to get a good camera nowadays. I rather like the Peace River area; there's lots of wide open spaces. Good fortune with the photographing. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 01:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. I love Florida rivers and springs. Used to canoe a lot - canoed through the Everglades without seeing another person besides my fellow paddler. The crystal clear waters of the rivers in Central Florida - beyond words! Going to get my EasyShare C195. MathewTownsend (talk) 16:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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Daytona Beach Historic Districts
I found a website with some info about Volusia County & Daytona Beach Historic Districts. It appears to be run by the County, so the info documented may be considered Public Domain. http://www.heritagepreservationtrust.org/ Perhaps if enough data can be gleaned from it, new wiki pages could be created. I also have an interest in saving two roads from the AFD Squad. Gamweb (talk) 06:53, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * County Road 4040 (Volusia County, Florida)
 * County Road 4050 (Volusia County, Florida)

Photos of Shopping Centers & Malls
I was browsing through the pages in this category and found that several places need photos. Something right up your alley. Gamweb (talk) 10:31, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Category:Shopping malls in Florida

St. Bernard de Clairvaux Church
Hi. You don't think it might be exaggeration to describe this building this way? "It is the oldest building in the Western Hemisphere". Here is Wikipedia's idea of the Western Hemisphere. Shall I change what you wrote? Eddaido (talk) 00:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * go ahead -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 17:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, the source says "one of the oldest", which is what the article says. Should it be clarified as "European built"? -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 17:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places
Could you comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National_Register of Historic Places?

This is regarding a key part of the upcoming WLM-US photo contest. Smallbones (talk) 12:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Suwannee River‎
Hi,

Really nice picture you added! Best wishes, MathewTownsend (talk) 17:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I took it a while ago, I dunno why I didn't add it sooner. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   State of the Union   ‖ 17:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Love to get your reaction
Please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Historic_Places

Smallbones( smalltalk ) 15:08, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I only have a dumb phone. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 16:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Category:Hotels by year of completion
Category:Hotels by year of completion, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:37, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Opa-Locka Thematic Resource Area
Hi. Please see Talk:Opa-Locka Thematic Resource Area. I think the article oughta be renamed/moved. Could you comment? -- do ncr  am  21:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Photos of pending listings
Do you upload photos of pending listings, and/or do you know of others who do? I'm considering creating a Commons category as a holding pen for such images, and I'd like your opinion on whether it would be useful. Please reply at my talk page, since I've also asked for input from Ammodramus and Smallbones. Nyttend (talk) 13:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I used to, and don't know anyone else who does. I've not been roadtripping much of late, but when I was, I kept track of pending listings. Since I also maintain the Florida NRHP lists, what I do is invisibly add pending listings ahead of time, then "reveal" them when they're official. I'll add the photos if I have them at that stage too. I didn't create a special "pending" category for them. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 17:36, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Lanark Reef
Are you familiar with this area at all? I haven't had a chance to do much with it. Any assistance would be most welcome. I also started an article on Mercantile Bank building (Tampa, Florida), FYI. Take care. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:33, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Only vaguely familiar. I've driven that stretch of US 98 a number of times, but don't really know much about it 'cept it's pretty. Sorry to not be of more help. :( -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Union of Opposites   ‖ 02:52, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

invisible edit?
Hi, why would you make this edit with edit summary emphasizing it is invisible. If there is a new NHL, it should be added. Is it not official yet?

If it is merely that you are inserting a new item in a long numbered list, and you don't want to take on a big renumbering task, just put it in at a half number(e.g., enter at number 69.5, if between items 69 and 70). You don't have to take on the bigger renumbering, which another editor (SanFranman59 can do easily with some tool). -- do ncr  am  13:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep, I didn't want to do the renumbering. On the Florida and Georgia ones I maintain, I put in the pending ones in like that. When they're approved, I add the date and "reveal" them. I hadn't thought of the ".5" option; seems a bit dodgy to me. But I guess that's an OK stopgap measure. I'll try it, and if it's considered problematic, I'm sure I'll hear about it. Off to the races! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 13:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Neal Terrace
Hi. Thanks for adding Neal Terrace to the National Register of Historic Places listings in Cuyahoga County, Ohio page. The new listing probably should go in the National Register of Historic Places listings in Cleveland, Ohio page instead, since the Cleveland listings have their own article. - Eureka Lott 19:37, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you
Thank you for "repairing" the vandalism on the page for Joseph S. Pulver! Very much appreaciated! LadyLovecraft (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:27, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

US 90 in Florida
I finally finished that article on U.S. Route 90 in Florida, although between your edits and mine, it's kind of long. The talk page for my sandbox on the article has been archived as well, and anything else you have to say about it should be moved to the talk page of the article itself. I'm debating whether to move Beach Boulevard to the new article or just convert it to a US Streets article instead. ---User:DanTD (talk) 20:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Huzzah! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 20:54, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you're happy about it. So do you feel like adding a few images to the article? I've considered searching through the commons gallery for some, but I can't decide which ones to use. -User:DanTD (talk) 00:39, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I was wondering about that. Yeah, I'll peruse and see what I can come up with. Will try not to get carried away. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   State of the Union   ‖ 13:27, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Infobox templates
From your contributions to Infobox NRHP, I'm hoping you can help me out. Would you be able to add more coordinate options to Template:Infobox civilian attack, similar to those already used in Template:Infobox_NRHP Infobox NRHP. Specifically, I'm looking for at least latitude =, longitude =, | coord_parameters = ( e.g., region:US_type:landmark), | coord_display = (e.g., inline, title), and | coord_format = (e.g., dms) parameters be added to Template:Infobox civilian attack. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 01:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Re-delisting a building
Perhaps you remember this edit to National Register of Historic Places listings in St. Joseph County, Indiana, and if so, I suppose that you saw Sanfranman's following edit. I believe I know what happened — while NPS didn't mention this place being delisted on June 15, it did delist the Richmond Gas Company Building (National Register of Historic Places listings in Wayne County, Indiana) on that day; probably Teemu08 saw it and thought it was the building in South Bend. Nyttend (talk) 21:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, on the new listing in Cincinnati ("Main-Third Street Buildings") that you marked a few days ago with an edit summary of "it may be the same as the one after it" — I believe that you're right. Besides the nearly identical names and addresses, there's a longer history than may first be noted.  See its refnum, 83004654: it was originally nominated 30 years ago but failed because of an owner objection, right around the same time that 83001984 was listed as the Main and Third Street Cluster.  I'm wondering if they nominated a larger group, got an objection from someone on the edge of the district, and renominated it without that building?  !!!!

Comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/WLM-US 2013 discussion
Would definitely be appreciated. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 04:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Yahoo
Just wanted to let you know that I used one of your photos on a Yahoo article I wrote: The Lower Ochlockonee River Canoe Trail in Florida Gamweb (talk) 22:04, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 04:09, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Interesting private house in rural Holmes County, Florida
Did you see this on any of your travels in the Panhandle(http://imgur.com/bWWurZO)? This is northwest of Ponce de Leon, Florida. It may not be a historic site, but it's still interesting. I found out about it when I was working on my article for Florida State Road 10A. You should save and/or print a copy before Google makes Imgur take it down, find out if the sign is still there, and can snap a picture of it. -User:DanTD (talk) 18:31, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It's located here. Nope, I never even went by it, since that road wasn't on the way to anywhere I was going. It's only about 4 miles off US 90, though, so it's not a big detour. I'll put it on my list for whenever I get back up there. I've not been doing much roadtripping of late, as I've not had as much of the wherewithal to do so. But I do hear the call of the Panhandle, especially on cold clear days like today. So we shall see. My likeliest next sojourn, though, will probably be to St. Augustine at the end of April. I don't need an excuse to go there, but that's when the annual Taste of St. Augustine is. Plus it's at the St. Augustine Amphitheatre, which always will have a special place in my heart. If you can make it over there, consider it. The Taste thing goes from noon to 8, and it's only a couple of miles from the historic downtown. Also close to Anastasia State Park, the St. Augustine Lighthouse, and the St. Augustine Alligator Farm Zoological Park. Anyway, thanks for the info about that Holmes County spot. Cheers! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 21:33, 3 March 2013 (UTC).

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Discussion on high school's infobox type
Hi there! New user here, so I hope I am following proper processes by making this entry. I wanted to get your opinion on changing the infobox type on English_High_School_(Lynn,_Massachusetts) from Template:Infobox_NRHP to Template:Infobox_school. This is an active high school and readers may benefit more from data within the school infobox such as principal, mascot, rival, etc. Hope to hear from you soon!

Charger2 (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It'd be better to have both. The school one can be on top, and the NRHP beneath. It's also possible to embed the NRHP infobox 'inside' the school one, I think. See Template:Infobox_NRHP for more on that. Either way, only the NRHP-unique info should be in that infobox, which will reduce it in size. Hope this helps! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 23:25, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Addison Blockhouse Historic State Park
I found another State Park that is missing from Wikipedia, Addison Blockhouse Historic State Park. I don't know if you are interested in working on it, but I found a good source on the net. Addison Blockhouse Historic State Park, Florida State Parks Gamweb (talk) 03:01, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a weird park, as it has no ranger station. You won't find it on the main page. It's like the nearby Bulow Creek State Park. There are others like it in other parts of Florida too. You can't get a stamp for it in the passport book, either. My Wiki interest/involvement is low right now, so I shan't be of much help. But good luck, whatever you do. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Union of Opposites   ‖ 04:02, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Taking a Wikibreak? Well, I know you like taking photos. If you are on Facebook, there is a page where you can submit photos of Florida. They have a contest every Friday. I think the page is run by the State Tourism Bureau. Facebook: Share a Little Sunshine Gamweb (talk) 16:34, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Palingenesis
I noticed you removed the Chilean photograph from the article. Completely right in my opinion but it's a touchy subject at the moment. See. Regs,  Yinta n   17:06, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I know; that's how I found out, by reading the noticeboards. That's why I included the "please discuss on talk page" note in the edit summary. Hopefully this will get resolved, though I'm afraid the end result will ultimately be a block. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 17:20, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Mount Moriah Baptist Church and John Milton Hawks
Hi Ebyabe. I thought you and DanTD might be interested in these articles. Any assistance is welcome as always. Thanks. Candleabracadabra (talk) 14:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Demolished sites in the National Register of Historic Places
Hi Ebyabe. There are several sites in the NRHP that have been demolished (Algonquin Apartments, Priscilla Apartments , Kentucky Home ): should they be listed in a different way? Pietro (talk) 12:41, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Unless they've been delisted, I don't think so. But that doesn't mean info about their demolition shouldn't be added to the articles. Those refs should work for that purpose. I took the photos of the sites, btw. Cheers! :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   State of the Union   ‖ 22:25, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I know your pictures: great job, congratulations! Pietro (talk) 00:03, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Bot messages
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 * Thanks, Dude sir! :) In my early Wiki days, before NRHP, I stubbed a lot of the Virgin Doctor Who novels. Recently, someone's been tagging the lot of them for deletion, so I'm getting all these notices. Others at the Doctor Who Project are dealing with it now, so I really don't need to be getting these notifications. Again, gracias for showing me how to turn them off. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 12:41, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

New Adventures
Thanks for your comments on my Talk page. I've started with Return of the Living Dad and Cold Fusion (Doctor Who) given the AfD/deletion discussions, but I hope to move on to all the others in time! Bondegezou (talk) 08:35, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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FL NRHP template
On your newly created Template:National Register of Historic Places in Florida, Hernando County, Florida is listed, but it won't show up for some reason. I can't figure out why. -User:DanTD (talk) 18:10, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * UPDATE - Never mind, I fixed it. You had an extra non-linked county in there. -User:DanTD (talk) 18:12, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not exactly new (I created it in 2010), but thanks for noticing and fixing. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 22:24, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

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RE: Steve Kuhn article
Hi,

I'm trying to get an article published (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LaYinkaS/sandbox), which was deleted before. I feel it's a notable subject, hence I have made a new article.

Is there any way to ensure that it does get published rather than deleted once again?

LaYinkaS (talk) 13:16, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe WikiProject Articles for creation can help? Or the help desk. I haven't created articles for a while. Apologies. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 20:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Schuylkill Navy Page
Hi! I saw that you edited the University Barge Club page! How did you get to be involved? Would you want to do more? I'm editing the Schuylkill Navy page for a Cornell University class project, and would love some added input! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyp25 (talk • contribs) 11:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I can't see that I made any edits on that page. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 13:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Jefferson College (Jefferson Military Academy) in Mississippi
I recently left a note on the Talk Page of the article you created on the now defunct Jefferson College (Jefferson Military Academy) in Mississippi. I'm pointing this out to you in the event you might have some input, which would be appreciated. Thanks much and best regards.

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 * That's because I assessed the article 7 years ago. I've not paid attention to it since. Thank you for the notification, but I have no opinion about the article one way or the other. Thanks. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 13:21, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of 24.13.244.169
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Sarasota School of Architecture
Do any of the Sanderling Beach Club photos show the club? For example I was working on some Sarasota architecture articles. Thanks for any assistance you want to provide. Take care and thanks for you work and photographs. Candleabracadabra (talk) 21:08, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think the club exists anymore. At the address, there's only beach and condos. That's what's in the distance too. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 18:14, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The address in the NRHP is 105 Beach Road, and this is what it looks like. There is a Sanderling Club further south, which may be the correct one, but I can't be sure. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 18:42, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... It seems the Sanderling is supposed to be open to residents in a gated community and included: cabanas, a clubhouse and an observation tower. "Rudolph's innovative approach included curved plywood rooflines for the cabanas, which were symbolic of sea waves. Although the tower was later torn down because of structural issues, the cabanas and clubhouse have been fully restored and are now on the National Historic Register of Historic Places."article in Herald-Tribune. Anyway, thanks for all the photos you've taken. I created some stubs on some of the more recently added NRHP properties and a few of the architects who designed them. Happy Holidays. Candleabracadabra (talk) 18:53, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation link fixing one-day contest
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St. Lucie Village Historic District
You don't happen to know which house is which in your photos of the District on WikiCommons? If possible I'd like to use a picture of the Russell-Padrick House at 2817 N. Indian River Drive. Thanks! Gamaliel ( talk ) 19:24, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * How is that one notable? -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 20:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've just written an article on the builder of the house, William F. Russell (Florida politician), and thought I could add a picture of the house if one was available, in lieu of an actual picture of the man.  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 20:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm rather afraid it is this one. See here for some more info. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 20:30, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * And here too. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 20:32, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, it did survive floating away in a hurricane, so it could be in much worse shape. Thanks for your help!  Gamaliel  ( talk ) 20:43, 26 November 2013 (UTC)