User talk:Ebyabe/Archive 26

Bow down on BOTH knees
Uh huh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.159.31 (talk) 01:16, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You first, AP. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 01:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, you got blocked. I'll just have to wait I guess. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 01:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

EBYABE HELLO. you did make a mistake. :) its fine i shall link it to a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.121.173 (talk) 02:54, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope, no mistake on my part. You can't use Wikipedia itself as a source. Whenever you can find reliable sources that Jack Whitehall and Gemma Chan are dating, or Gregg Sulkin and Bella Thorne for that matter, go right ahead and add them. You might wish to check out WP:VERIFY for how to do so properly. Cheers. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 04:35, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Unclear the point
Of this edit  Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 22:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It looked correct. If it wasn't, thank you for reverting. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 22:55, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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July 2015
Hello, I'm SweetHeart.MonaLisa. I made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Jesse McCartney. I actually have a video clip of BUS Radio station interview of Jesse McCartney. He himself announced his full name and I have the clip link for you right here "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L46ogMM_xB0". I know Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people. Well I'm kinda new on editing Wikipedia page and I'll be very glad if you help me getting things right. (I know my English is horrible, hope you can understand me). Thank you! ‖‖ Mona Lisa 18:39, 5 July 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetheart.monalisa (talk • contribs)
 * Ironically, by itself that may not be considered a reliable source according to Wikipedia. I have started a discussion on the article talk page to hopefully come to some resolution. Cheers! -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 18:48, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Undid revision 670266992 by Dave souza (talk) restored original word "view" instead of theory. All citations preserved
Hey there, I'm new to editing, however, the article on Intelligent design (ID) which you and others keep on reverting, is highly biased, and does not meet wiki standards of:

"verifiable, do not give undue weight"

The first line claiming ID is "pseudoscience" in unverifiable, and the article throughout gives undue weight as the view itself (ID) is neither proven nor disproven.

Notice, in my edits, I preserved all the citations claiming it was "pseudoscience", while clarifying it is still a "view" nevertheless. Hence my edits are factual, and meet wiki standards.

The article still has many defects showing clear bias and "undue weight" in such a fashion as to mock the view of ID throughout.

Can you at least allow the simple edits as made, since they did not remove any citations, but merely clarified it is still contested grounds?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.45.106.84 (talk • contribs) July 6, 2015


 * You can express your concerns at Talk:Intelligent design. Discuss what you want, rather than constantly reverting, there's a good chap. Though the article is pretty much fine as it is. Good luck. You'll need it. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 23:57, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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 * Response has been left. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   State of the Union   ‖ 14:00, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Intelligent Design
User:Ebyabe, Hi. As you can see by this French Wikipedia page on Intelligent design (French: Dessein intelligent), they give both sides of the argument, presenting the subject in a more neutral tone. They write (translated from the French): "Intelligent design is presented as a scientific theory by its promoters, but in the scientific world it is considered as a pseudoscience, for reasons that both the internal facts of biology and also epistemological criteria cannot be rectified (the proponents of intelligent design appearing to biologists as having ignored numerous arguments, the more notable of which being the falsifiability criterion of Karl Popper)..." I am, therefore, quick to admit that the WP article on Intelligent design should at least attempt to show that ID is viewed differently by different folks, and that even if it were not a scientific theory, per se, it is still a philosophical question suggestive of something else beyond what is seen by our naked eye, and that some biochemists (i.e. Michael Behe) and physicists (i.e. Albert Einstein) have entertained that notion as a real possibility, given all their scientific experience. Do you think that it would be possible for us to incorporate something along the lines of the French article into our own English article, and to admit that there is a philosophical question that has been the subject of debate (or of mere musings) by some respected people of the scientific community?Davidbena (talk) 22:21, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * In a word, no. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Union of Opposites   ‖ 23:36, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Article
I see that you have edited the Tampa, Florida article. So if you are interested you could atleast take a look at the article about Oba Chandler. I have invested quite some time editing it over the years. Thanks :)--BabbaQ (talk) 17:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have looked. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 17:41, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Doubt

 * You can reply to me here on my talk page, that will be OK. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Attract and Repel   ‖ 20:37, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Film recommendation
Hi E. If you like offbeat films from France then this is worth a look. Much better than the dramahz that goes on here. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:20, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Good grief. I don't know how I missed the quote from Blake's Seven on your user page. I can even see the slight curling sneer/smile on Paul Darrow's - er I mean Kerr Avon's face - as he delivered the second part of it. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:23, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * An FYI for you. I noticed the cross between FF2 and an IPs edits and mentioned it here. Regards. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:00, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I do so love Blake's 7. And I did notice the 'retirement' lapsed again. I expect him/her/it to throw another one of their hissy fits for all the edit reverts that are being done to them. Tantrums accomplish so much, don't they? :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 01:14, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

This has to stop
Listen I don't mean to bother you again, but I really think this has to stop at this moment. I just want to edit in peace on my own when i edit, it's just not right following users around and undoing there edits when they are editing. All I'm trying to do is provide sources in articles when I'm editing, I know I did make some mistakes for not providing a source for the information I added, But I learned not to forget next time, and I don't mean to forget. I'm just saying it's not right to do this when someone is editing an article after all there hard work they put in it. I'm not being rude or mean about this, I'm just saying in my thoughts that it's not really that right to do this to other users on wikipedia. You can remove this message if you want, but I already know you won't listen to this message I wrote, and ignore it too. I'm not being rude or mean at all, I'm just giving out my own thoughts. FrozenFan2 (talk) 03:00, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's the thing, you keep repeating the same mistakes. Then you apologize and say you'll never do it again. But you do. Repeatedly. Then you 'retire' for a day, after saying everyone is being mean to you. When they are just following the policies here. Unlike you. Then you come back and the cycle starts all over again. As long as you continue the same pattern of behaviour, expect your edits to be reverted. Not just by me, but other Wikipedians as well.
 * If you took a month off and didn't do ANY EDITING ON WIKIPEDIA AT ALL, I think it would do you a world of good. Go outside, take a walk, go on a roadtrip, see a movie. Heck, if you want to edit, try a Disney Wikia. Just do something else. Because if you continue on your present path, you are going to get blocked. I've seen it happen here too many times before not to recognize the signs.
 * I expect this all to fall on deaf ears, but at least you can't say you haven't been talked to. Good luck, b/c you are most assuredly going to need it. Cheers. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 03:11, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

I don't mean to forget on purpose, I'm doing the best I can. FrozenFan2 (talk) 03:13, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, deaf ears. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 03:15, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Deaf ears yourself. I'm telling you the truth, I have short term memory issues. That's why I keep forgetting what I do, but I don't mean too. FrozenFan2 (talk) 03:18, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Then perhaps you should not be editing here at all. As I have been trying to tell you. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 03:21, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Then I should have never edited those articles in the first place and you would have never followed me too those articles. FrozenFan2 (talk) 03:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Correct. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 03:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I give you this free advice. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Inspector General   ‖ 03:38, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And if you get stressed, try this. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 03:46, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey E. Now that our long national nightmare is over I thought you should see these gems. This item came early in their career and was an unbelievable "dog ate my homework" excuse. It was changed to this four hours later. Then there was yesterdays edit summary (I hope you saw it as it has been rightly removed) where, among other things, FF2 hoped that we got "stewed". Now back in the day I was pretty good at that. There are many variations on the libations but one of my fave combos was Guinness and Jameson. I'm almost tempted to recreate the experience to enjoy the weekend. I do hope that you have fun on yours. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 17:46, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Whatever will we do without their histrionics? They were pretty trippy since day one, weren't they? :)  I'll probably have my usual boring weekend, spending most of it online. But that's more economical right now, doncha know. Anyhoo, cheers mate, and hope you have a good time the next couple of days as well. -- ‖  Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 17:57, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia Uploads
I was wondering if you could help me on how to make a new wikipedia page that will not redirect to another one.

please help. Will appreciate it. Zine ntleks (talk) 10:39, 23 July 2015 (UTC)


 * What page? -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 13:28, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

FF2 and friends
You know, except on rare occasions, I don't edit on the non-English Wikipedias. That's because I know I'm not competent enough in other languages to make constructive edits. I just wish other people would have the same level of self-awareness. Also that when they do the same things under other user identities, people won't figure it out. There's some definition that seems apropos... :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 03:39, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Valencian
Hi. FYI, User:HardstyleGB's apparent edit warring is being discussed at. LjL (talk) 22:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I see Valencian has been semi-protected for a while, so that should help. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 22:18, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And User:HardstyleGB has been blocked for a couple of days. I have a funny feeling that's going to get extended, but we shall see. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 22:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Ayeza Khan
Dasgourav7 (talk) 04:20, 2 August 2015 (UTC) Hi Ebyabe, What I did or edited to the profile named Ayeza Khan is very true and verified and also sourced. So, I request you to do not remove or undo it, please.
 * Sorry, but Facebook and stylentips are NOT reliable sources. So they will continue to be removed, not only by me, but other responsible editors on this site. If you want that information to stay, discuss it on the talk pages of the articles. If you continue on your current path, then you are likely to get blocked, and then what good will your editing have accomplished? Cheers. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 04:27, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Also posting the exact same wording on the talk pages of all the editors who have reverted you shows rather a lack of creativity, don't you think? Anyone can copy-and-paste. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Inspector General   ‖ 04:29, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Mary, Queen of Scots
Hi, you advised me on this page to discuss on the talk page. Actually, I've been doing that. Please feel free to join rather than adding to the edit war just for the sake of it. 80.44.64.116 (talk) 03:59, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * When the discussion is completed on the article talk page, and the changes you propose pass consensus, THEN the article can be updated. Until then, leave it as it is, as YOU are the one edit-warring. I expect you to be blocked soon for your recalcitrant behaviour. Have a nice day, sir or madam, adult or child, human or alien, since I cannot determine your true nature from an IP address. Good night. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 04:04, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I seriously doubt you even understand what the word consensus means. What happened to your contributions to the talk page by the way? You started edit warring in the name of consensus and told me I should go to talk. So when should I expect to see you posting there too? Am I going to have a long wait by any chance? I'm betting I will. 80.44.64.116 (talk) 04:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes you will. Since you are obviously always right and infallible and everyone else is wrong and why won't people just do what you say? I didn't realise I was speaking to Pope Francis. My apologies, your Holiness. Have a lovely evening in Vatican City. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 04:12, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * If you can read this talk page, I see you have been blocked. Which is the inevitable result of your behaviour. I expect you will not be able to get the changes you want made to the Mary article. That's what you get for being obstreperous and unduly froward. Have a lovely vacation. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   General Health   ‖ 04:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * So, you've been around long enough to have heard this before, but in case you want my opinion, I don't think the sarcasm is helpful. It's lots of fun, of course, but makes it slightly harder for strangers like me to drop by and see who's playing nice, and when you're this obviously in the right it's not helpful. I know it's unfair of me to scold you after you've been being baited by a nationalist for days, so sorry, but still. I'm an advocate of radical CIVILity: I think it's more useful both in the short term (making it easier for others to take your side) and long term (making the site more tolerable to useful editors).


 * Thanks for your good work! Amazing photos. FourViolas (talk) 05:11, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I know, but it's my method of coping. I won't use expletives, but sometimes a vandal irritates the bleep out of me, and the sarcasm comes out. Plus it's an attempt to force them to discuss, in hopes of distracting from reverting. Which is a vain hope. I have duly reported myself for edit warring, b/c that's just who I am. Ironically, I was starting to sort of agree with them. Then they started sockpuppeting, and that just really sent me over. I have few qualms against those who are so thoroughly obstinate and clueless. Normally I stop myself, but tonight I was look, boom. But I do understand where you are coming from, and that's mostly my philosophy too. I'm going to bed now, 'cause this dingyness has keep me up way past my bedtime. :) And thank you for the comments about my photos. I love my historic photo roadtrips. Gods help me, I've uploaded over 20,000 photos to Wikimedia. Yeah, I know. If you are ever in Florida, I can point you to some interesting stuff that's not typical touristy. Anyhoo, cheers and g'night. ;) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Repel All Boarders   ‖ 05:22, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Troll
Re: the troll on my talk page, that's actually a sock puppet I think. Gonna file an SPI. Thanks for reverting though.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 00:54, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Took care of it.... Dbrodbeck (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I know it's not FF2, as he/she may be confused, but has never been outright mean. I've said it before, the mindset of trolls eludes me. Even when I was an adolescent boy I'd never have done this kind of childish stuff. Oh well, cheers. :)  -- ‖  Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 01:50, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Wild Heron
Your photo of Wild Heron at National Register of Historic Places listings in Chatham County, Georgia, for instance, does not match the house in the NRHP photos. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 04:41, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That's weird. I don't remember taking those pictures at all. It may have been remodeled, or that was the likeliest looking house at the location. There's no address, so I must've gone by geo-coordinates. I'm glad you moved the picture then. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Opposites Attract   ‖ 05:01, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't think it can be the same house remodeled - they are too different. I live less than an hour away from there, and I go up that way a few times per year, so I'll check it out.  Unfortunately, it is near Richmond Hill, where I got in a bit of trouble twice.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Looking at Google Maps, I see the big house with five columns, but it is probably the one with the red roof that is nearby. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:27, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * And the color photo here shows it with a reddish roof. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * You know the area better, so I will trust your judgement. Usually when I can look at a picture I took, the whole experience of taking it comes flooding back to me. I'll recall what was playing on the radio, the temperature, where I had to park, etc. For this place, nothing. Heck, even Google Street Viewing how I would have gotten there isn't bringing back anything. :(
 * Richmond Hill is where I stayed when visiting Savannah. Infinitely cheaper. Like $30/night. It's a bit of a drive up 17, but nice. Be careful whenever you get back there. :) -- ‖  Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 12:29, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I looked at it on Google Maps and the satellite view. Wild Heron Dr. goes to the house you photographed, the one I believe is the actual one on the NRHP, and one on the other side.  It ends there.  If it is a public street - no problem.  But if it is a private drive, I'm going to stay out.  From the public highway, I could easily get the house you photographed, but it is blocking the actual NRHP house.  So it depends on whether or not that is a private drive.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 15:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand. I've been kind of lucky with photo'ing houses, often meeting the owners. When I explain what I'm doing, they usually happily let me photograph the place. But then everyone doesn't have the Irish charm like me. :) Anyways, good luck and practice safe photographing. :)  -- ‖  Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 15:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I've only had those two problems. I pulled into a private driveway and one man was positively angry.  Another asked for identification, but was OK otherwise, but two or three times I asked if I could snap one quick photo, and he said nom it is private property. Often people ask me what I'm doing.  One was concerned about the rain on my camera (it was raining a lot on my trip to Peach county a couple of weeks ago.)  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * And speaking of hotel expense, everything within 50 miles of Nashville seems to be a lot higher. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It's been over ten years since my mom and I visited Nashville. We got a hotel near-ish to the airport, and I don't remember it being terribly pricey. But everything's gone up, hasn't it? Regarding the photo taking. I wouldn't pull into a private driveway. I usually park on the side of the road when I'm not in cities where I have to use actual parking spots. I'm a park and walk around kind of guy. With Google Street View, I've even taken to scout out potential parking spots in advance. And hey, at least you didn't drop your camera in a river. I was trying to get shots of the bridges over the Apalachicola River in Chattahoochee. Little did I know how muddy the river bottom was. My feet sank up to my ankles. I almost lost my sneakers. Trying to extricate myself, I dropped my camera. I got it out, but the next day or so there was an aura/fog around the edges of the photos I took. Surprisingly the camera lasted a while after that before finally giving out in Bartow in 2011. Where I got a better camera at Wal-Mart for a quarter of the price of the old one. Needless to say, I am much more careful with that camera, and don't go wading in rivers so blithely anymore. :) -- ‖  Ebyabe  talk -   Border Town   ‖ 02:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I've done some rivers, but I do it from bridges. Usually if a camera goes in the water, you can forget it. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:16, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I like getting under-bridge shots when I can, 'cause I think it's interesting to see the support structure. And I couldn't remember, so I checked the pictures. It was 4 months after dropping in the river that the camera finally phased out. So I was lucky there. What I recall more after the wet camera incident was taking my sneakers off and putting them on the dashboard to dry in the sun, since I didn't have a spare pair with me. Another thing I learned to have on hand after that, doncha know. :) -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 05:14, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I do rivers differently, see:


 * Altamaha River
 * Willacoochee River
 * Satilla River
 * Brunswick River (Georgia) - this one was from a pier (as were some others).
 * St. Simons Sound
 * Lincoln Memorial Bridge (also at Wabash river).

Trip plans
Planing NHRP photo trips is fun. I plan that I can hit these counties if I go this route, these counties if I go a different route, etc. I started with ones close by. Then I made some trips that I could make in a few hours. And some trips I'm going somewhere anyway, and get things in the area or along the way. I've about run out of stuff that I can do without staying overnight, but I've got a couple of overnight trips in my mind. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:05, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the planning part too. 'Cause I'm kind of OCD and I overplan. Spreadsheets with all the spots, maps of the best routes, and always more spots than I'm likely to able to visit. I don't want to run out part way through. Which has never happened. :) Actually, I have preparations for all of Florida, at least what I haven't seen yet. And places I want to revisit and/or get better shots. I also throw in other things, like museums and bridges and rivers and state parks. Which is how it started with me, wanting to visit and photograph all our state parks. One trip I'd like to do is US 441 through Georgia. I've driven all of it in Florida, and bits in Georgia, but not the whole way. Also there are a few covered bridges in Georgia I think and I'd like to see those. Anyway, luck and fun in all your travels, and enjoy the journey as well as the destination. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Welfare State   ‖ 00:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Signature
Hey there,

I noticed your signature is no longer showing up on mobile devices as it contains depricated HTML elements, however this is easily fixed. Can I suggest you change your signiture code to, giving  -- ‖ Ebyabe talk -  General Health  ‖ (the same result as before). Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 16:24, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I have a randomized signature. I made some tweaks, so let's see if that's better. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   Health and Welfare   ‖ 20:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. Thanks for the headsup. I don't do mobile devices, so I am completely unaware of an discrepancies therein. -- ‖ Ebyabe  talk -   State of the Union   ‖ 20:04, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The basic changes that could be made are changing the  to, should fix all the issues. Mdann52 (talk) 20:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, did that. Is it better now? -- ‖ Ebyabe talk - General Health  ‖ 20:19, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Maple Leaf (Shipwreck)
Hello, I can provide you with any graphics regarding NHL Maple that you could possible dream up. Please do ask if opportunity arise.

Kindest regards, Romeo Murray Romeo murrey (talk) 02:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Faizan(Actor)
You're welcome (for the thanks). I wonder if User:Faizan(Actor) should actually be deleted as promotional, if it is similar to their deleted BLP page? 220  of  Borg 03:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The user hasn't editted since January. I'm actually surprised they hadn't been indef blocked, based on their user history. I'd support deleting the user page. Oh, and than you for the welcome for the thanks. ;) -- ‖ Ebyabe talk - Border Town  ‖ 04:01, 27 August 2015 (UTC)