User talk:Ecemaml/Archive 6

Chapel of Our Lady of Europe
External links concerns links that are not citations to sources supporting article content. If you're saying they are supporting cites, then please format them as such per the guideline. The article wasn't referenced to wikipedia's guidelines but I see you have added some. Please don't post on my talk page. To add, you're well aware why I changed my username and no longer use my real identity. Don't refer to it again or I will seek action against you. Wee Curry Monster talk 10:24, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


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 * Best regards --Ecemaml (talk) 10:46, 20 September 2011 (UTC) PS: I don't have the slightest idea about why you changed your nick, so your usual bad faith assumtion is only that: the usual stuff.


 * Thank you for pointing out my mistake. I have corrected it.  Wee Curry Monster talk 11:06, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

EQUO within the European Green Party
Hi Ecemaml, I have seen you have reverted twice my edits on the European Green Party article, regarding lack of references when entering EQUO as a Spanish party supported by the EGP. In the first case I have to admit you were right, no references were provided.

However, in the second case, I added two different information:
 * supported, referencing this official document from the EGP.
 * membership in process, referencing this EGP official document about how EQUO and ICV will be integrated both within the EGP (which is complicated, because it means two different parties in one country, but it would not be the first case). You can see this on the first page, to be precise where it says «The representation of the European Green Party (EGP) in Spain and Catalunya is held respectively by EQUO and ICV. As members of the EGP both organizations establish their organic and political relationships, as defined in this protocol». This is an agreement clearly showing the intention of EQUO and ICV to be both integrated within the EGP. And the EGP itself hosts this document, granting they are supporting this plans.

This is about the references. You might be doubtful or even suspicious if you do not know the current political situation about the Greens in Spain. The fact is that earlier this year, on 4th June, 35 political green parties have been integrated in EQUO, which is something historical in the green history of the country. There is still a minority of people who stay in the former Cofederación de Los Verdes (but not even a 10%). The EGP knows the situation, and most people is recognizing that the Confederación de Los Verdes is becoming an empty shell, and most green people in Spain moved to EQUO. However, to become EQUO a full member of the EGP, about 30 parties have to agree the integration of EQUO and the cancellation of the Confederación de Los Verdes. This is not going to be a problem if the Spanish greens show their intention to stay together in EQUO. However, the fact is... it requires time (which can take up to two years). For this reason, the EGP strongly supported EQUO in the past elections (as I showed in the first document).

For these reasons, I ask you to reconsider your last revert, as holding references of documents hosted by the EGP, showing unequivocal support and intention to grant full membership to EQUO in the future.

Eynar Oxartum (talk) 21:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, that's fair enough: "verificability, not truth". I should look for such a document. However, eliminating any reference to EQUO in the EGP article would give misleading information: Monica Frassoni was in several acts of EQUO in Spain, and Cem Özdemir supported EQUO publicly during the Spanish election campaign. For that reason, I think we should at least keep the supported tag (which has the best possible reference), until someone finds the concerning document to prove that EQUO's membership to EGP is in process. Eynar Oxartum (talk) 23:50, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course, it is clear at this point that EQUO should not appear as a member party until someone can provide the concerning reference. However, in the list there are also observer parties. Within the same section there should be space enough for EQUO, not just hidden at the bottom of the article, but at the bottom of the list (after the observer parties). I think this would give verifiability and trustworthiness to the article, mainly for readers who already know something about what is going on. Eynar Oxartum (talk) 00:12, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If not within the list, at least within the section (outside the list, after the comments about De Grønne, for example). Eynar Oxartum (talk) 00:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

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Hola!
¿Qué pasa hombre? Long time no chat, how are you doing? Mira, I'm becoming increasingly active on Wiki again and was wondering if you'd like to resume our collaborative project on creating Gibraltar-related articles? Un saludo, --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 18:56, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

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gibraltarpedia
needs you Victuallers (talk) 07:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Ecemaml, it does need you indeed! I've noticed you've been active recently. Could you help us out? --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 11:00, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gibraltar Museum
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:05, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well done for the DYK (one of 17 so far) - we shall be organising stuff in gib in September Victuallers (talk) 16:50, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Evacuation of the Gibraltarian civilian population during World War II
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File:Palazzo della Civiltà Italiana, Rome, Italy.jpg
DO NOT tag it for uploading on Commons, please. It has been already deleted on the ground of no FOP in Italy though the photo is a work of mine. If you upload it on Commons it will be deleted again. -- SERGIO  aka the Black Cat 15:49, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * :) that's why I said "DO NOT" tag it, please. Should I be rude I woudln't write please ;-] In Italian the difference between kindness and rudeness is that please. -- SERGIO  aka the Black Cat 08:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I had already acknowledged indeed, I misread the diffs. -- SERGIO  aka the Black Cat 09:55, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Hi
I'm sorry to hear that. I was actually hoping we could resume our collaborations... :( I'll look into the Gib Museum thing. If you happen to change your mind, please remember to contact me here or via email. Best regards, --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 11:18, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Re:Huge image in talk pages in the Spanish Wikipedia
On behalf of whom are you speaking? Oh, don't matter; I'm not really interested to know... - Al Lemos (talk) 23:45, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Ecemaml, I wondered if I might help? As you know Tyson's idea has taken off and we have people helping gib teachers to introduce wiki into lessons = and other good stuff. Our support from Morocco is pretty good but I would like to make sure we improve the number of articles about places in Spain and in Spanish. One of the reasons why we thought Gb was interesting was because it is at least bilingual. Do you have any advice about working with the Spanish Wikipedia? Victuallers (talk) 08:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear of your ban. However, despite the wiki drama, we are not paid to improve the image of Gibraltar - I'm not qualified in PR and I don't know how to do that. The main crux of our work is to deliver QR plaques but we are doing other works with schools and 3D modelling etc as part of the project. We have posted our job descriptions on the project page. I think its a pity that you are not involved as I though the article you' created on the evacuation was very good. I really wanted this to include Spanish and other languages and not be too anglocentric regards Roger Victuallers (talk) 11:31, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Gracias tio
For your recent Gibraltar-related contributions, they're appreciated even if only temporary :) --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 23:45, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Fantástico! I'll help out as much I can. I'm on a family holiday in Barcelona this week so it'll have to wait till I return :) --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 18:23, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Re:Do you know...
Hola, just got back from Barcelona this weekend and been catching up. I loved it there, it's a beautiful city - con ganas de volver pronto...

The image shows George Augustus Eliott, 1st Baron Heathfield (Governor of Gibraltar during the Great Siege) holding the Keys of Gibraltar), the crest of the Royal Engineers and a Koehler gun. It's found at the entrance to the Great Siege Tunnels. --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 00:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks I added it to the article. --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 12:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: The Mount (Gibraltar)
Hi Ecemaml. Yes, it is one of a handful of places in Gib licenced for civil weddings. It has nice gardens (though I chose to marry at the Alameda Gardens). It's located just off Europa Road and you can also book the tennis court there (free of charge) through the Gibraltar Sports and Leisure Authority. I'm afraid I don't know much more of the history than is already in the article... I've added an infobox showing its location on the map. --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 12:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: Gibraltar Heritage Journal
Hi Ecemaml. I had a few of them but I seem to have lost some when I moved house. I've got No. 14 and No. 16 on my shelf. I don't think they're available online though. What book are you reading? --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 20:31, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The synopsis sounds interesting, I may well have to order a copy. I'll try asking Dennis in case there are online versions available somewhere (he's hard to get hold of though). You could also try emailing the Gibraltar Heritage Trust, I know they sold and mailed copies of other publications of theirs such as A Year in the Life of Gibraltar to international buyers so it's worth a shot... --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 11:09, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi
Hello Ecemaml, just sing in here for a moment to send you a GREAT thank you for all your contributions and your tremendous work. Bravo and keep looking always on the bright side of life! ;-),SanchoPanzaXXI (talk) 14:43, 26 November 2012 (UTC)