User talk:EchetusXe/Archive 2017

Callum Brittain
✅ GiantSnowman 20:24, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--EchetusXe 20:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Terry Bartlett (footballer)


The article Terry Bartlett (footballer) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable sports figure with only one local reference. Orphan

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Happy Birthday!

 * haha, thank you.--EchetusXe 16:39, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Deniz Mehmet
✅ - but I'll leave you to update if that's OK? GiantSnowman 13:35, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll get it done by the end of the day.--EchetusXe 13:42, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

James Gibbons footballer
Hi

I was editing James page and was wondering why you are undoing the edits?

Cheers.

(A1973 (talk) 10:28, 10 March 2017 (UTC))
 * It is sourced and adequately written as it is. You are removing details and introducing one line paragraphs, which don't look good. I am wondering why you are changing them! There isn't any negative information on there and you are just paraphrasing what is already written. Comparisons of teenagers to great players is a bit pointless but if you really want the Mike Pejic thing on there I'll add it in.--EchetusXe 12:08, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Some of it is incorrect. He got injured in his 5th game and returned to Vale. The loan period then ended a week later, meaning he missed the final game of the loan spell. So he made 5 starts during the months loan and didn't return to Leek. The injury information he feels is now irrelevant really, if not now it will be in the future as his career progresses, however ref 4 is a good article for him. Criticising a one line paragraph as it doesn't look good is subjective, (it looks fine on plenty of other wiki profiles), and separates his loan information from the subsequent Vale senior information. The comparison to Mike Pejic relates to his style of play, and I like the extra info you've added there from the Sentinels article. Why am I changing them? I'm his dad. (A1973 (talk) 08:49, 13 March 2017 (UTC)),
 * OK, I have looked again and found I didn't actually write the bit about the abductor muscle, someone else added that in and it isn't supported by the reference, so I have removed it. I'd say generally keep a paragraph for each season, and the Leek loan and the Port Vale debut happened in the same season. Thanks.--EchetusXe 12:56, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. It looks better. Are you the unofficial updater of information like this on specific teams or just Vale? (A1973 (talk) 13:13, 13 March 2017 (UTC))
 * Just the Vale :)--EchetusXe 14:13, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Jim Wright (footballer, born 1910) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jim Wright (footballer, born 1910) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Removal of short names
Why? GiantSnowman 08:12, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have never known it before but ALTNAME says "If a person has a well-known common hypocorism, used in lieu of a given name, it is not presented between quote marks following the last given name or initial, as for Tom Hopper which has just Thomas Edward Hopper."--EchetusXe 10:04, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Durham City players
Hello EchetusXe. A couple of articles you created on players have them at Durham City from (e.g.) 1914–1919. However, the club was only formed in 1918. Were these typos? The articles in question are Martin Golightly, John Clarke. Cheers, Number   5  7
 * The English National Football Archive gave those dates for when they joined the club. I guess they were mistaken and actually joined the club when it was founded in 1918 unless it existed in some capacity before that time.--EchetusXe 19:32, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Waterford F.C.
Why did you request so many deletions of the pages I created for Waterford FC players? Me being an inexperienced Wikipedia user I feel this was nearly a form of bullying as I had no solutions how to fix the problem you faced me with. The info you gave for the deletions were inaccurate and I have no way of getting them back now. I just want to know why you'd do such a horrible thing. BluesFan1930 (talk) 12:03, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. I only flagged up the article that didn't meet the notability criteria. They would have been deleted it at some point, it is just a shame you put the time in to make quite a few before they were spotted. There are still plenty of ex-Waterford and a few current Waterford players to be getting on with. The information I gave was accurate, and if they do go on to play a professional game then they can be recreated. If you want to access them now then you can find them on deletionpedia.org. So if you want to put the articles on another website then you can.--EchetusXe 14:39, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Well why have you put so much effort into the page of Shane O'Connor. Kenny Browne, Dean O'Halloran, Patrick McClean, David Mulcahy and Mark O'Sullivan are all on professional contracts and are bigger names than Shane. I wouldn't have minded as much but the page Kenny Browne has been around for years and wasn't created by me and he is a very big name in League of Ireland football. These players would be far more relevant than Shane O'Connor in Waterford and in general and I can back that up also. Also the info you gave was extremely inaccurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BluesFan1930 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
 * How do you mean? I just checked to see who had played in a professional league or not. If Browne was such a big name you could have said on his discussion what coverage he had. O'Connor might not be that big a deal now but he used to play in the English professional leagues, once someone needs the criteria they have it forever, they don't have their articles deleted because they became worse players or whatever.--EchetusXe 11:03, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

The name Tan Hong Djien
You have a page on my grandfather. The name Tan Hong Djien isn't right the official name is THE Hong Djien. Can you please change the name because we can't. Lefty The (talk) 18:35, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
 * OK then.--EchetusXe 21:02, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Harly Wise for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Harly Wise is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Harly Wise until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Jo(e) Cummings
Hello. I can see that you created the page for Jo Cummings, the Charlton Athletic footballer. It seems that he prefers his name to be spelled Jo, rather than Joe. I feel somewhat guilty for this as I originally added him to the squad list with the incorrect spelling but don't know how to change it on the overall page. Trequartbeasta —Preceding undated comment added 19:05, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I've moved it for you. Thanks.--EchetusXe 22:48, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Re: Come back plz
Found myself browsing Lawrie Wilson's page in the early hours (having just read that Wilson had been training with Stevenage for a lot of the close season before his move to Vale) and then stumbled across your message. Appreciate the kind words! Might try and give a few of the bigger articles a bit of a tidy up at some point down the line. Keep up the excellent work! SBFCEdit (talk) 03:01, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you!--EchetusXe 09:29, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Derek Dougan Blackburn quote
Hello. I just came across the repeated removal and restoration of a quote from the Derek Dougan article, and have started a discussion at Talk:Derek Dougan. Your input is welcome. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Ciaran Clark
Hey, how sure are you that Ciaran Clark was last season's NUFC player of the year? Can't find anything relating to it, asides from a player's award. APM (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * This headline says Newcastle’s Player of the Year can’t wait for the Premier League to kick-off. Did he not win the award?--EchetusXe 22:51, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I thought it was that article, here's another one by the same author, which reads like a opinion piece. In recent years, the player of the year award has largely been forgotten about: Rob Elliot was awarded it on the last day of the season, the 2015 "ceremony" was cancelled due to the relegation run-in, and Ben Arfa's win in 2014 looks to be a protest vote. I've just found out that the disabled supporter's assoication are holding their ceremony on the 20th, so perhaps the actual award hasn't been given out yet? Wouldn't surprise me with this shambles of a club. APM (talk) 02:20, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * wow, the award has been going from the 70's so unbelievable that they have just forgotten about it, especially after winning promotion! OK, perhaps it hasn't been decided yet, I'll leave it up to you.--EchetusXe 09:17, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll leave it as it is for now. It's plausible it could go to Clark, though it could also go to Ritchie too. It looks like it's the Newcastle United supporter's trust award, Daryl Janmaat won it in 2015, not much of a ceremony there! And according to this, Loïc Rémy won in 2014...as good a player Hatem Ben Arfa is, there's no way that he won that year, he only scored 3 goals that season! APM (talk) 11:51, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It is strange. I haven't heard of supporters voting someone ironically for their main award. I don't know if it some kind of protest against Mike Ashley. I don't know why it hasn't been more widely reported. Very odd.--EchetusXe 12:04, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * HBA was a fan favourite, and was repeatedly played out of position by Pardew, so I'd imagine it was a protest against him, rather than Ashley. However, I have edited in that Rémy win, as it looks to be the right pick. APM (talk) 17:30, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Oh dear
thank you for sharing that... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:21, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Claus Bech Jørgensen
Hi, Thank you for your contributions to this page, however, I wanted to ask why you deleted my last edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slowsoften (talk • contribs) 22:02, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your edits too. The statistics section goes before the honours section. Thanks.--EchetusXe 00:48, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Ok fair enough, but couldn't you just move it instead of deleting it completely? Cheers, Slowsoften. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.43.169.245 (talk) 21:44, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing was deleted, by reverting your edit I did move the text.--EchetusXe 09:08, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing

 * I will apply, thanks.--EchetusXe 01:11, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted
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 * Please consider helping get the huge backlog down to a manageable number of pages as soon as possible.
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 * You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted - be formal and polite in your approach to them too, even if they are not.
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 * Great, thanks.--EchetusXe 01:32, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination of William Tempest for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article William Tempest is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Talkback
ansh 666 19:39, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

New Years new page backlog drive
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