User talk:Ecoveger

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Hello, Ecoveger, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! AdAstra reloaded (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
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Copyright problems with EducationWorks
Hello. Concerning your contribution, EducationWorks, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://educationworks-online.org/about/. As a copyright violation, EducationWorks appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. EducationWorks has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message. If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) then you should do one of the following:


 * If you have permission from the author, leave a message explaining the details at Talk:EducationWorks and send an email with the message to . See Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
 * If a note on the original website states that it is licensed under the CC-BY-SA license, leave a note at Talk:EducationWorks with a link to where we can find that note.
 * If you hold the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL, and note that you have done so on Talk:EducationWorks.

However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While contributions are appreciated, Wikipedia must require all contributors to understand and comply with its copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. AdAstra reloaded (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Why the article was deleted
You said: The content of EducationWorks website is not copyrighted. The organization know I am using the text on the web site for some of the wiki page, and it is not the final text, just a way to organize the content.

Sorry, but this isn't going to work. First, almost all material found on the internet is subject to copyright. It cannot be used unless there is a specific, compatible license, or we have written authorization (some exceptions, such a works of the Federal Government.)

Second, for a subject to be notable, there should be discussion of it in multiple, independent sources. The best practice is to review all the sources, then write something in your own words, occasionally using exact wording when editorially appropriate, but in thoe cases the material should be in quotes and sourced.

Feel free to work on a draft in user space, but the resulting draft should be referenced and in your own words before moving to main space.-- SPhilbrick  T  17:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


 * to expand a little, for the organization to donate copyright it must do so exactly according to the detailed provisions at WP:DCM. But see below for why that would not be advisable  DGG ( talk ) 18:21, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of EducationWorks


A tag has been placed on EducationWorks, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit |the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mean as custard (talk) 15:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article for the 2nd time, as advertising, and need to give you some advice:

A Wikipedia article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. You also need to write like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization, say what it does.. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what it has accomplished. Remember not to copy from a web site -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable.

Include only the material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the organization and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the organization, or to prospective clients--that sort of content is considered promotional. Keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive.

For further information see our FAQ about business, organizations, and articles like this and also WP:FIRST.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of the organization wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know.

If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, do so, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity. I do not want to discourage you, but to urge you to write a proper article if it is possible; if it is not, please help us by improving our other articles on related topics.  DGG ( talk ) 18:02, 3 August 2011 (UTC)