User talk:Ed Neil

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Original research
Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Harold Camping, but we cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. -- Brianhe (talk) 04:09, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Ed Neil (talk) 04:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC) This is not original research, it comes directly from Harold Camping's book, Adam When? the latest edition of which, according to amazon.com, was published in 2000. My copy dates from the 1980's, but it's unfortunately in storage. Most, if not all, of the information, including that one specific quote I mentioned, is also found in one of links that a previous contributor had referenced: http://www.asa3.org/asa/PSCF/1970/JASA9-70Camping.html. I will have to compare what I wrote with what's found in that link (admittedly, some may be from memory). Would it be better to simply move the footnote to the bottom of the section I edited to indicate that's where I got everything from?
 * Examples. You added the following statements to the article, which need to be cited as coming from a reliable source.  Otherwise they are liable to be viewed as your own research or bare opinion.
 * This is a fascinating and startling turnaround...
 * It apparently never occurred to Camping...
 * ...no evidence that the inhabitants of the Antediluvian world kept track of time in this way...
 * Your conclusion that his research is "bizarre" has been removed from the article as a pretty clear example of personal judgment incompatible with the encyclopedia's goals. -- Brianhe (talk) 04:06, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * P.s. There is a great deal of helpful information on how to write about living persons at Biographies of living persons policy page. My comments above are expanded on at the "tone" and "reliable sources" sections. — Brianhe (talk) 04:11, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Ed Neil (talk) 07:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC) I thought better of some of what I had written and certainly could reword it more objectively, however, I do stand by my use of the term "bizarre" regarding Camping's method of working out a Biblical calendar. About halfway down the page in this link http://www.asa3.org/asa/PSCF/1970/JASA9-70Camping.html there is a critique by one Edwin M. Yamiusehi of Miami University, and he states, "His system of a "biblical calendar" based on the choice of an individual who was born in the year of a predecessor's death is unattested in any ancient calendaric system." That certainly does make Camping's system bizarre by any standard, but I'll concede the point. Yamiusehi's statement also confirms what I had written: ...no evidence that the inhabitants of the Antediluvian world kept track of time in this way... It's not my personal opinion, but a documented observation by someone 40 years ago, who in turn referenced 6 different sources in his footnote a little farther down the page in that same link.