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DYK for William Gates LeDuc
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You forgot the bottom section!
I saw you just added Mildred Mottahedeh to the list at The 50,000 Destubbing Challenge. But you forgot to also add her to the 5,000 Women bios destubbed section below that! Silver seren C 00:49, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You're quite right! Thanks for catching that. Happy holidays to you and yours, and thanks for all the hard work you do here. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:55, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

A New Year With Women in Red!
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Quaker Experiences in International Conciliation
I hope you don't mind me following up my recent WP:RX request, whicn you were able to fulfil, here. I've found the chapter from Yarrow's Quaker Experiences in International Conciliation exceptionally useful for the rewrite of Adam Curle I'm working on, but have belatedly realised I also need to look at Yarrow's third chapter, "The India–Pakistan War of 1965" (pp. 144–178). I don't suppose you could send that chapter over as well? Wishing you a very pleasant remainder of the festive season and a happy new year, – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:47, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * sent Eddie891 Talk Work 21:29, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Received, thanks again! – Arms & Hearts (talk) 09:54, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing
G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team


 * G'day Eddie, I have closed off the MH awards, but given you initiated and stewarded the process this year, would you like to do the honours and hand out the gongs and pen a quick summary for the Bugle? If not, I'm happy to do it. Let me know? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * : I’d be happy to, but you caught me as I’m going to sleep. I can do it in the morning, if it can wait. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 03:13, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It can wait mate. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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 Eddie891 , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:43, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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 Eddie891 , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:45, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


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DYK for Frances Spatz Leighton
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Happy New Year! Eddie891, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Thx, 'trees! It's been great to get to know you this year. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

O Captain
Wow, Eddie, that is just awesome !!! Until User:ImaginesTigers came along, I just didn't know how to help. As I mentioned early on in the peer review, FAC has lost all of its literary people (and they aren't likely to come back considering the current environment), and it appears that I sent the Tiger to you just at the right time, and they addressed precisely the things that were needed, so big shout out and welcome to them, along with a congrats to you ! Happy New Year, Sandy Georgia (Talk)  15:19, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the congrats, Sandy, and a happy new year to you as well. Thanks as well for your insightful comments at the peer review and your efforts towards quality content this year. A huge thanks to ImaginesTigers (and the other reviewers) as well. Hopefully 2021 brings better things to us all. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It was a good article! Eddie did a great job on it. All the major issues, to me, were ironed out in the peer review (I had a look back) and the earlier comments. The prose was serviceable enough that only some little changes were necessary to bring it up to "engaging"; it was already quite professional. Great work Eddie, and all who helped you, too. ImaginesTigers (talk) 16:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mildred Mottahedeh
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Hope for 2021
Thank you for improving article quality in December, and good wishes for a time of transition. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Have a good new year 2021! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:33, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

It got a good start with FA O Captain! My Captain!! I had planned to review but was to slow. Congratulations. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:29, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

I know the wall feeling, but hope it will leave you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the well wishes, Gerda. I suspect it will prove to be temporary-- I just woke up on Monday and realized I'd forgotten why I keep editing here. I'm remembering now, though. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:46, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for This I Remember
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for This Is My Story (memoir)
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DYK for On My Own (memoir)
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DYK for The Autobiography of Eleanor Roosevelt
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Your GA nomination of Benjamin B. Talley
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Benjamin B. Talley you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 03:41, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Benjamin B. Talley
The article Benjamin B. Talley you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Benjamin B. Talley for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 04:21, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Faruki 1974
Trying to figure out the source for Special:Permalink/990716025. (I'm not watching this page –&#32;please use&#32; on reply) &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 03:26, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * missing source, I've added it now. Sorry and thanks for catching it. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:41, 8 January 2021 (UTC) :
 * [Thank you for the ping] No problem; thank you for fixing it! :D &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 15:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Whitman and Lincoln
I saw some of the work you've done on that topic--thank you so much. Drmies (talk) 17:18, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The project has been one of the most enjoyable ones I've done, and rather personally rewarding. It's a fascinating intersection of history, and (was/is) rather poorly covered on-Wiki. I'm actually learning quite a bit about Whitman as I go along&mdash; my english teacher would be proud! I see you found my draft for his lectures-- I've also gotten "O Captain! My Captain!" to FA and "This Dust" to GA. In the works are a re-write of Hush'd Be the Camps and an update of Lilacs (which is listed as a GA, but needs some love) and some sort of overarching article. Who knows, maybe I'll get a good topic out of it all! Thanks for all you do and happy new year-- Eddie891 Talk Work 17:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

 * Thx! Eddie891 Talk Work 17:55, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Heads up
Hi and thanks for all you comments for the Sir Thomas Erpingham peer review. Just ti let you know that User:Darouet is OK with me doing some of the work needed on John and William Merfold, which still has reached GA level. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 21:16, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you Amitchell125! -Darouet (talk) 21:26, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for My Memoir
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Benjamin B. Talley
The article Benjamin B. Talley you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Benjamin B. Talley for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 01:22, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Congressional seed distribution
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Mercy dog
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to chime in: the DYK led me to the page. Absolutely enlightening on an aspect of managing the consequences of combat. (Having been educated in the USA, I've learned little about WWI other than through literature.) I added the aliases from the lead sentence to the Wikidata item, and I hope in the future the page will be translated to the other languages who share this element of history. Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 12:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Great to hear! It was an educational article to write as well. Eddie891 Talk Work 17:56, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You will make it into the DYK hall of fame. Page views.  Well done!  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 14:50, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Good to know-- glad it was so well received! Thanks for your work on it, as well. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:29, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Lots of Window dressing. I do think that it is now ready for a WP:GA. But glad to help.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 15:34, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Mercy dog!
I just wanted to reach out and say that your Mercy dog article that I read yesterday filled my heart with joy. Dogs are the greatest! Thank you for that, we all need more joy in our lives right now. Cheers, Netherzone (talk) 17:41, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for First Lady from Plains
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Importance of coverage
Hello Eddie! I'll like you to please bother clearing a doubt of mine relating to the notability of the subject of an article.

I recently nominated Deviprasad Dwivedi for deletion. Although i believe that Padma Shri Padma Bhushan is not a significant award on an international level, lets, for an instance, consider it a major award that is talked about on WP:ANYBIO. Then will the subject still be considered notable and its article be kept even if he has not received even minimal coverage? To be more straight-forward, does passing WP:ANYBIO overrule failing WP:SIGCOV?

My thoughts is that if the subject is a living person then passing WP:SIGCOV is must. Please have your say, if you don't mind, in the deletion discussion as well. Kindly Pesticide 1110  <i style="color:Teal">Lets wrestle!</i> 17:32, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * You're likely to get people with varying opinions on this, so note that this is just my opinion and not necessarily correct: ANYBIO is a curious guideline in many respects and you have to exercise common sense when interpreting it: for instance, what is a "dictionary of national biography or similar publication"? Do we consider an entry in the likes of The National Cyclopaedia of American Biography (which was compiled by getting the subjects to fill out questionnaires) enough? What about in a highly specialized encyclopedia? (my answer to those last two questions would be "no" and "yes", respectively) Speaking specifically to ANYBIO#1, let me use an example I'm familiar with: Medal of honor recipients in the American Civil War. Is the MOH the US Armed Services highest award? yes. Is a Medal of Honor inherently enough for a stand-alone article? I, and many others as well, would argue: not without coverage to back it up. Many medals of honor were awarded for (comparatively) trivial things in the ACW, and there are more than a few cases where there just isn't enough verifiable information to write an article with. ANYBIO doesn't, by itself, overrule a blatant failure of GNG -- in fact the section it's in specifically says meeting one or more [of the additional criteria] does not guarantee that a subject should be included. However, having a major award does make the existence of GNG-meeting coverage significantly more likely, particularly for this case, where I'm not familiar enough with the award and the region to say for sure that coverage does not exist in a different language. And, as you note, what a "well known and significant honor" is is subjective and there's not a clear consensus on what that means. Hopefully that's of some help? Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 19:05, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * That's more helpful than i expected it to be. We need more editors like you here, Eddie. Cheers, <b style="color:NavyBlue">Pesticide 1110 </b> <i style="color:Teal">Lets wrestle!</i> 01:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Dana expeditions
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Your Dana expeditions hook generated 5,390 page views and therefore joins mercy dog at DYKSTATS January. Keep up the great work. Cbl62 (talk) 09:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln
I smell a WP:DYN entry coming soon. Please self-nominate. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  00:14, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations on mercy dog!
Congratulations! With 43,554 total views (and 3,630 views per hour), your hook on the brave mercy dogs is the most viewed DYK hook for quite some time. Accordingly, it has been placed at the top of the list at DYKSTATS January. It has also been inducted on the All-time DYK page view leaders list. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 18:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ! Fascinatingly, it also got over 100,000 views yesterday (presumably driven by a reddit TIL). I'm very happy the article has gotten some attention, it's one of my personal favorites. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:48, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Adding my congratulations too. Your hooks get better and better! Yoninah (talk) 12:36, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Napoleon's penis
Hello, I have passed Template:Did you know nominations/Napoleon's penis, but per your note upon nomination, if you want to suggest some ALTs I would be happy to look over them as well, so long as this is done before it is promoted. Best, CMD (talk) 12:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021
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DYK for Index Thomisticus
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Dear Sir: I wish to thank you for all your comments regarding the User Page Mark Allen Baker. Per your instructions I have worked hard to streamline the page and add a significant number of secondary or tertiary sources, paragraphs have been edited down, quote boxes have been removed and the entry reads far better thanks to all the comments and views of the Editors. The subject's career began when Wikipedia first started. The subject is now writing his 25th book and has sold numerous copies worldwide. PLEASE support this entry and keep it on Wikipedia. I will make any and all corrections you request. Have a great New Year and Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autograph3 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/The Creators Society
Hi Eddie891, I saw you closed this discussion as soft delete, however, I don't think it is eligible because it has been previously proposed for deletion and deleted, and was proposed for deletion again with this recent creation and removed by the page creator (though the recent PROD wouldn't have been eligible since the page was previously PRODDed). <span style="background:-webkit-radial-gradient(red,blue);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;">Dylsss(talk contribs) 02:30, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * --You're quite right and i'm rather embarrassed that I didn't catch that. I'll certainly be more careful going forward. However, I do feel that 'delete' was the right outcome here. Oh well, I've reverted my close. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 02:52, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Vond
Hello! Regarding Articles for deletion/Vond: soft redirection ≠ soft deletion. Anytime something is redirected to a local target within the mainspace, a hard redirect is used. Other cases, e.g. soft redirecting to a sister site such as wikt:, are handled by specialized templates. Moreover, the plain soft redirect template I went ahead and remedied the situation at vond; it is up to your discretion whether or not you would like to amend the closure. Warmest regards, — Godsy (TALK<sub style="margin-left:-2.0ex;"> CONT ) 13:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've amended it. An embarrassing oversight on my part, one that I will be sure to not repeat. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Natalie Duddington has been accepted
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John and William Merfold
Hi Eddie891, I have done what I can with the article, my apologies for not getting back to it sooner (see here for the reason for the delay). Looking at the Merfold article, I think it has real problems being taken further and may need failing; most of the text is not about the brothers, whose only claim to notability seems to be that they spoke out against their king in public a few times—almost nothing else can be said about them. Most of the text in the article could probably be taken out as being off-topic. Can you ping me back with your thoughts? Amitchell125 (talk) 19:52, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm afraid that I've come to a similar conclusion. There's also an unresolved citation needed tag, and this review has dragged out for far too long. I think a fail may be in order, though I hate to say fail-- because certainly good work has been done here and the article isn't in bad shape, but it just isn't a good article. Let me know where you want to go from here. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:32, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'm walking away from it. Someone with better access to local history resources relating to the south of England needs to have a go at researching the Merfolds and their fate, although there may never be enough material out there to do the job. Imo it fails on criteria 3 and possible 6 as well. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 09:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

New draft for Matador Network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Matador_Network

This page was previously deleted by this user, but a new article has since been created adhering to the Wikipedia citation standards. The article is currently not marked as being reviewed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missamelia5 (talk • contribs) 17:49, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't review drafts upon request. It will make its way though the queue. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

RSN / RfC: Sherdog.com Closure Mess
Hello, an uninvolved editor named Buidhe closed Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_318 some time ago with the consensus for option 2 but somehow he used the explanation for option 3 in this |diff. That caused some confusion and then some editors in favour of option 1 complained about it here at User_talk:Buidhe/Archive_12. Then Buidhe changed his closure 2 weeks later in this |diff, again, and disregarded votes. He gave the explanation for why he changed the closure and disregarded votes 2 weeks later here at the complaint section User_talk:Buidhe/Archive_12 again. Apperantly he thought 5 options were confusing for editors who voted in the RfC and other editors perhaps voted for wrong options without knowing. So he didn't come to any straightforward conclusion and in the end the closure has become a mess that didn't close anything or reflect the consensus outcome of the RfC (or anything at all for one option or the other) although it was a pretty easy and short one with a rather clear rough consensus.

It would be far better if an experienced administrator like you closed the RfC once and for all, and erase this mess the closing editor caused because it affects a lot of articles in the Wiki and cause edit wars that rely on that RfC. Thanks in advance.78.190.169.101 (talk) 14:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but no thanks. 1) It's out of my comfort zone, 2) there are users far more qualified than myself to respond to this, 3) I wouldn't call myself an 'experienced' administrator when it comes to RfC closures such as this one, 4) I don't have the time or interest, 5) this reeks of block evasion or something else above my paygrade. courtesy ping to . Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * See User talk:Wbm1058. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . And here I was, thinking I was special... Eddie891 Talk Work 15:24, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It was quite unfortunate that the discussion was run with different options than are usually used at the board. Any closure with regard to the nonstandard options risks confusing those who are looking at the closure but don't realize that the options are different than those usually used. I do think that my closure was the best way to compromise between users who believed that it was fully reliable and others who argued that it was less reliable than standard newsorgs such as ESPN (keeping in mind WP:NOTAVOTE). (t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Terry Grosz
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

building preps
Hey, Eddie! I'd be happy to help you through building your first prep, if you like! Building preps is really good experience for admins who want to work at DYK or ERRORs. It is a bit daunting at first, but once you've done a few you see that it's really just a puzzle you're putting together, and it's actually quite fun. —valereee (talk) 13:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the offer! I'd appreciate any advice you may have on getting started. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 15:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure! You've got lots of experience nomming/reviewing. The person building the prep is trying to build a balanced prep, which means no more than 4 US hooks (and preferably 2-3 if we aren't currently overwhelmed with US hooks), generally no more than one from any other country, 4 bios/4 non bios (in alternating order), ideally no more than 1 on any subject if possible -- music, military, biology, whatever. You also need to pay attention to length, as if all the hooks are short or all are long, the MP will have an awkward blank space. And ideally each set alternates starting with a bio/non-bio in the image slot, so that if Prep 1 had a bio, Prep 2 gets a non-bio. And of course the final hook is the "quirky" slot.
 * The first thing to do is check to see if there are any special occasion requests for the date (when we're in two-a-days, take into account whether there are time zones where that hook wants to be in the daytime; for instance, a hook mostly of interest to the US should run during US daytime) and slot those in (or reserve space for them if the hook is still being reviewed.)
 * Most prep builders will attempt to build an entire prep, although sometimes you'll get stuck and leave a slot open, hoping someone else will fill it or something good for that slot will be reviewed by then. Most prep builders start with the image slot. For each slot, you scan the list of approved noms (generally top to bottom, as we want to get those older ones slotted), looking for something that works in your prep. When you find one, you do a review; how complete it needs to be is something you'll pick up as you become experienced. When I see that both the nom and the reviewer are highly experienced at DYK and the article is GA, I know all I need to do is check to make sure the hook is cited to the sentence. When I see that both the nom and the reviewer are inexperienced at DYK, I know I'm going to need to do a full review. Sometimes I need to ask for another alt or for corrections to be made before I can move. Once you've reviewed, you move the hook to the prep, then start again.
 * The main guidelines and instructions are at Template:Did_you_know/Queue.
 * Let me know when you start building and I'll watch your progress. As you can see from the above, it's a lot of stuff to consider. Prep building is an art, and it takes some time to learn how to do it well. But if puzzles appeal to you, you may find you really like it. —valereee (talk) 16:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thank you! how does something like what I've put together at Template:Did you know/Preparation area 7 look? I removed c. 1510 from the first hook, and am not sure that "attempted buyer" is really a valid phrasing. I'm also not sure what to put as a 'quirky' hook-- would something like Template:Did you know nominations/Crowd Cow work? And of course, if this is the stuff I noticed, I'm sure that there is more I missed. Let me know what's what, please. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 21:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, Eddie! Yes, I think Crowd Cow could work as a quirky. I think you did a good job balancing the hooks in general, although to me that looks like an extremely western set -- which, as we're enwiki, sometimes is what we have available to us -- but it's also very easy for an unconscious bias to creep in! You might look at whether or not there's an item or two from Asia/Africa/South America that you could swap in. —valereee (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I forgot to mention -- when you're building a prep, always look for hooks by other prep builders, as prep builders cannot promote their own hooks or ones they've reviewed, and some of prep builders are fairly prolific nominators and reviewers. Other prep builders will do the same for you, as you can't promote hooks you've already touched. As an admin, you can move to queue a prep that includes a hook you nom/reviewed, but you shouldn't move a prep you were the primary builder of. —valereee (talk) 21:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * you're definitely right. I considered Template:Did you know nominations/Manek Premchand, but there's already one hook focusing on a film so I thought it would be too much. Many of the non-Western hooks are images or have unresolved issues. . . I swapped a south American hook in and I can use Template:Did you know nominations/Zéna M’Déré in as the quirky one instead. What do you think about that? Eddie891 Talk Work 22:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * lol I love Zena M'Dere as a quirky! Yes, both those changes are great! :) And yes, sometimes it's not easy to balance by western/other areas, we can only use what people submit to us! :) —valereee (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
 * If someone is looking for a non-US bio to promote, there is Template:Did you know nominations/Agitu Ideo Gudeta. On January 17, Yoninah said on my talk page to wait for at least another week of the article being stable. SL93 (talk) 01:11, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Napoleon's penis
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DYK for Walt Whitman's lectures on Abraham Lincoln
Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 12:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

War identification?
You're a military history person, as I recall—could you or one of your watchers help me figure out which war is referred to in the following (original text here). I'm trying to reconstruct the history of a 19th-century mission over at Draft:Seneca mission. (Text of the draft is a total mess atm, so don't worry if it makes no sense.)
 * During the 7 first years of Mr. Hyde's residence among the Indians [beginning, I assume, in 1821], he seemed to labor almost in vain. He suffered much from ill health, was entirely unacquainted with the language, and labored under many disadvantages from its acquisition. The war, which commenced soon after his arrival, greatly impeded the prosperity of the mission.

This is in upstate New York, near Buffalo. Am I just gobsmackingly ignorant? I can't think of a war that would have been happening in the early 1820s in that area, and neither History of New York (state) nor Military history of the United States is giving me much of a clue. Probably my paltry history education talking; any hints appreciated. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 05:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * as you may or may not be aware, I live in upstate new york (near Syracuse, New York, as it happens) so if you need help tracking down sources for this article, I can probably be of assistance. I think you're looking for the War of 1812 which had major influence and impacts in the region, notably after the attempted Invasion of Canada. Your source says In 1811, Rev. John Alexander and Mr. Jabez B. Hyde were sent to this tribe [...] During the first 7 years of Mr. Hyde's residence among the Indians, [...] The war, which commenced soon after his arrival, greatly impeded the prosperity of the mission. 1812 -- soon after 1811. Let me know if I missed something entirely or can be of any more assistance. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:43, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ahh, thanks. I guess I must have had the dates confused; the War of 1812 certainly makes sense. And yes, any/all assistance welcome! I've managed to find quite a few sources in the PD which I'm cobbling together at the moment, but I fear I'm a bit out of my depth so would certainly be open to help/suggestions. Thanks! AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 14:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Now at Seneca mission if you'd like to take a look. Still developing, but I thought it was done enough to move out of draftspace. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:16, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Looks like some very good work you've done there! I'll take a closer look later today. Eddie891 Talk Work 16:28, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks—and, of course, no rush! Only if you're interested. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Prep 7 credits
Hi Eddie. Just noticed on Prep 7, I think you've accidentally credited me with an article on me instead of The Troopie.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 13:52, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes you're quite right. Should be fixed now-- Eddie891 Talk Work 13:57, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. (By the way, good job on Napoleon's penis! I've added it to the all-time list for you).  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 13:58, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for William Cline Borden
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QAI
I tried to give 2021 a good start by updating the QAI project topics. Please check and correct. For moar private "happy new year" see here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:44, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Happy Wikipedia 20, - proud of a little bit on the Main page today, and 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, look: create a new style - revive - complete! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

... and today proud of Vision pictured (not by me), with Arik Brauer in the news, so art in Vienna twice --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Very nice, glad to see it! Eddie891 Talk Work 14:51, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and today Jerome Kohl, remembered in friendship --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK Template issue
Eddie891, regarding the DYK review for Willem Krul (Dutch Navy officer). I changed (moved) the article title from Willem Krull to Willem Krul as I discovered that this is how Willem signed his name. However, when you click on the Willem Krul template now it says the template does not exist. The template is still listed in the DYK nomination page under January 14, but again, when you click on 'review or comment' it says the template does not exist. Any ideas? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:37, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * It exists at Template:Did you know nominations/Willem Krull (Dutch Navy officer). the DYK template should stay at the old name AFAIK. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:40, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Apparently the redirect didn't include the template.  I'd like to move the article title later, if it doesn't create issues, as again, this is how Krul spelled his name. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:44, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, I just saw that the article title still has the new name, but the template is back to where it was before my last edit to it. In any case, thanks for your help. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:51, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Justice and Jurisprudence
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Help please
Hello there. I notice you did a lot of work at WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/October 2020 so I'm just reaching out for some help please. I'm currently reviewing Tesla, Inc. for GA, but it's been almost a week and I've been trying my best but I've still got quite a way to go. I feel like the quality of the review has been deteriorating as I've been further bogged down. I was just asking if you would be able to review some of the article (perhaps a couple of sections or so) and then I can hopefully finish the review off later. If you don't want to, I completely understand. Kind regards, Willbb234Talk (please &#123;&#123;ping&#125;&#125; me in replies) 12:26, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm unfortunately not sure I have the time to help out at the moment-- I've got quite few projects of my own that need finishing up, and the article is outside of my area of expertise. I can try to check in later this week, but I'm not optimistic I'll be able to carve out the time. Really sorry and best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 15:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, not to worry. Regards, Willbb234Talk (please &#123;&#123;ping&#125;&#125; me in replies) 17:33, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Ebs Akintade
Hello you deleted my Wikipedia page as a Presenter. Due to Covid and so much I have the independent links that prove I am a noteworthy presenter at the BBC, host for the Landscape Institute awards, host of National Park City awards in London and much more besides. I can’t add the links as the page has been deleted. How can I appeal to get the page ack and make the necessary amendments? Ebuaki (talk) 09:37, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Beulah Mae Donald
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A barnstar for you!

 * , Thank you very much! It's been nice to get back into WIR. Thanks for all your contributions as well. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 00:28, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 20
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#606060; background-color:#f8f8f8; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);" class="plainlinks"> News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (January 2021).

Hello everyone and welcome to the 20th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Scripts Submit your new/improved script here
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Ajbura's anrfc-lister assists with listing discussions at WP:ANRFC to request that they receive a formal close
 * Bradv's endlesscontribs provides for endless scrolling of contributions pages
 * Evad37's livenotifications displays notification alerts and messages in a little popup box, (almost) live as they happen
 * Terasail's Edit Request Tool allows users to reply to, close or remove protected edit requests
 * ToBeFree's clear-watchlist allows emptying your watchlist even if the watchlist is too full to be edited or cleared by conventional methods
 * Dentonius's GlobalRecentChanges allows you to monitor recent changes across various wikis.
 * Yahya's SNA (Start New Article) allows you to start a new article or draft from the navigation bar.
 * Nardog:
 * CatChangeLinker bluelinks the "(diff | hist)" part of category additions/removals on your watchlist.
 * CatChangesViewer lists recent category additions/removals on a category page.
 * Consecudiff adds links to diffs of consecutive edits by the same user on watchlist, history, etc.
 * DiffFontSwitcher allows you to toggle between fonts for diff by clicking a line number.
 * MoveHistory lists the past moves a page has gone through.
 * Novem Linguae:
 * UserHighlighterSimple is a fork of Chlod's UserHighlighter with a simplified color scheme.
 * VisualEditorEverywhere displays the Visual Editor edit tab and section links on pages that don't normally have them.


 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg User:Evad37/TimestampDiffs – fixed compatibility issues with various scripts/gadgets, including Comments in Local Time. For discussion archives, now looks for revisions on the base page.
 * User:Enterprisey/undo-last-edit.js - no longer tries to load on special pages.
 * User:Ahecht/Scripts/pageswap - version 1.4 fixes reading destination from form field if destination is not in article namespace, and fixes self redirects.
 * XFDcloser - version 4 brings a new user interface for dialogs, some preferences for customising XFDcloser, major behind-the-scenes coding changes, and resolves various issues raised on the talkpage. Also, since version 3.16.6 non-admin soft delete closure have been allowed at TfD.



Open tasks
 * As a reminder, the legacy javascript globals (like accessing  without first assigning it a value or using   instead) are deprecated. If your user scripts make use of the globals, please update them to use   instead. Some global interface editors or local interface administrators may edit your user script to make these changes if you don't. See T72470 for more.

Miscellaneous
 * For people interested in creating user scripts or gadgets using TypeScript, a types-mediawiki package (GitHub, NPM) is now available that provides type definitions for the MediaWiki JS interface and the API.
 * A GitHub organization has been created for hosting codebases of gadgets. Users who maintain gadgets using GitHub may choose to move their repos to this organization, to ensure continued maintenance by others even if the original maintainer becomes inactive.

Pending requests
 * A script to ease reviewing Good Article nominations
 * A script to help manage Z number templates
 * ...and many more, all available at User scripts/Requests

As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, including nominating a featured script, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy new year! --DannyS712 (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Newspapers.com and public domain
At long last, I've finally gotten access to Newspapers.com via the WP Library, and I'm already finding great stuff. As I recall, you have Newspapers.com access too and I wondered if I could get your opinion on a copyright question.

One great thing I've found is a good quality image of William Edgar Easton on this page from a 1915 issue of the California Eagle. Since it was published in the US in 1915, it's in the public domain. But I didn't know if I could just go ahead and clip the image for use on the article, since I don't want me or the WP Library to get in trouble with Newspapers.com if they claim some unusual copyright status for the works on their platform. (For instance, "We OCRed it and scanned it, so we have copyright in the modified files on this website, hence they're not in the public domain"). So I wondered: have you used Newspapers.com for public domain content like this? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:45, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * : Yay, newspapers.com access! An absolutely vital source, I've found. This is an interesting question and one I'm not quite sure on-- check out ancestry.com (newspapers.com's parent) 's terms of use: all Ancestry Content is owned by or licensed to us and may be used only in accordance with these Terms, including Ancestry Content that may be in the public domain (“Public Domain Content”). You agree: To use the Ancestry Content only as necessary for your personal use of the Services or your professional family history research; To download the Ancestry Content only as search results relevant to such research or where expressly permitted by Ancestry; To keep all copyright and other proprietary notices on any Ancestry Content you download or print; Not to distribute, republish, or sell significant portions of any Ancestry Content; and, To contact us to obtain our written permission if you want to use more than a small portion of individual photos and documents that are Public Domain Content. I think this may fall under 'distribute significant portions' but am not well-versed in the area. It may be worth asking at WP:MCQ for a more qualified opinion. Sorry to not be of more help and best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 22:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Very helpful, thanks. I assumed there'd be something of this nature. Not clear if that language is legally enforceable, but certainly gives me pause. And yes, it's truly amazing what one can find on the site; a shame it's not more widely available for researchers. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 22:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I've just been informed on the WP:DISCORD by minds smarter than mine that these terms of service are "immoral" (I agree) and commons doesn't care about anything other than the fact that the images are public domain -- they can't be protected by copyright. So I think it may be beneficial for you to look around for someone better versed in the area than me for a complete answer. on an unrelated note, thanks for the typo fix-- I didn't intend to write an article about a pot and a politician :P Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 01:01, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Note
Just wanted to leave a note of appreciation for your comment and good faith assumption on my behalf at the GA discussion! Thank you and kind regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Ruth Wright Hayre
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DYK for Howard at Atlanta
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DYK for Tell Them We Are Rising
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DYK for The Hill We Climb
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DYK for Elizabeth Pulane Moremi
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DYK for Moremi III
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Your GA nomination of Walt Whitman's lectures on Abraham Lincoln
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O Captain! My Captain!
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for March 17, 2021. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/March 17, 2021. Congratulations on your work!—Wehwalt (talk) 17:54, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Walt Whitman's lectures on Abraham Lincoln
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Your GA nomination of Shrek!
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DYK for Tignon law
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Thank you ...
... for improving articles in February! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Gerda! This month, Black poetry in honor of Black history month has filled my time. Next up, "If We Must Die" by McKay. Eddie891 Talk Work 02:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * good to know, thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Shrek!
Hello! Your submission of Shrek! at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Morgan695 (talk) 23:03, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Centering
Please don't use <center ></center>. This hasn't been valid HTML since the 1990s. Most cases of centering (or centring, if you prefer) can be done with AKA, including the centered note at the bottom of your "Good article drive notice" delivered by bot recently, and probably also all the centering instances on this talk page and your user page. Using "dead" markup impedes our migration to HTML 5. For more information on that, and to get involved, see WP:LINT and WP:HTML5 (the latter of which also has advice on more complicated centering tasks, in a section about that). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  03:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * OK,, let's try this again: 1) Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I wasn't aware. 2) I've read through the pages you link and I get that it shouldn't be used, will make a mental note to avoid it. 3) I don't actually understand why it's 'wrong': It works, so why can't it be used? 4) I also don't get why we should care about a migration to HTML 5 and have no interest in getting involved, but thanks for the offer, I guess. Cheers and best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 18:32, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * It "works" in the sense that it visually forces content to be centered, in browsers that still elect to support deprecated elements, but this cannot be guaranteed, especially for WP:REUSE purposes; a strict parser will either choke on it or ignore it, and either way it will not have the desired effect. And it doesn't "work", in the sense that pages with <center ></center> in them fail to validate as HTML, which can have undesirable secondary effects, like forcing various browsers into "quirks mode", in which they behave like old browsers instead of modern ones. This isn't really the place for a big spiel about using standards-compliant code. WP:HTML5 gets into it a little, and it relates to Semantic HTML, Semantic Web, Web 2.0, code portability and manipulability with XML tools, etc.  Our own internal tools can also become simpler if the code is standardized. By way of a more human analogy, most people (native speakers, anyway) will know what you mean if you say "thou" or "speaketh", but this obsolete English, and there generally isn't a reason to do it.  People who are using the CSS and JS we've set up for detecting and fixing bad markup will see instances of <center ></center> stick out like a sore thumb (as red, well pink, blocks). Kind of like how someone walking around talking Elizabethan all the time will grate on people. Heh.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  13:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)  PS: I saw the original version of your response; to address the embedded question in it, the issue is that <center ></center> isn't valid HTML. It's been deprecated for 20-odd years, in favor of using CSS for centering. In this respect it's like <font ></font> and several other old obsolete HTML elements that only served a presentational not semantic purpose.  Most browsers are written to be able to still understand the old markup, but that won't be true of more specialized parsers, and may not be true of general-use browsers forever.  Unfortunately, the CSS for doing centering is a butt-pain, so it's much, much easier to do it with  (which is shorter than <center ></center> anyway).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  13:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks so much for the response! It actually makes sense to me now&mdash; the analogy was very helpful. I'll take care to use center when centering things. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 20:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021). Administrator changes
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 * A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
 * A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Page mover/delete-redirect.
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 * There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.

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 * There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (T275322).

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 * By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people. Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.
 * The Kurds and Kurdistan case was closed, authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed.

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WikiCup 2021 March newsletter
Round 1 of the competition has finished; it was a high-scoring round with 21 contestants scoring more than 100 points. Everyone with a positive score moves on to Round 2, with 55 contestants qualifying. You will need to finish among the top thirty-two contestants in Round 2 if you are to qualify for Round 3. Our top scorers in Round 1 were:


 * Epicgenius led the field with a featured article, nine good articles and an assortment of other submissions, specialising on buildings and locations in New York, for a total of 945 points.
 * Bloom6132 was close behind with 896 points, largely gained from 71 "In the news" items, mostly recent deaths.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 ImaginesTigers, who has been editing Wikipedia for less than a year, was in third place with 711 points, much helped by bringing League of Legends to featured article status, exemplifying how bonus points can boost a contestant's score.
 * 🇷🇼 Amakuru came next with 708 points, Kigali being another featured article that scored maximum bonus points.
 * Flag of the United Nations.svg Ktin, new to the WikiCup, was in fifth place with 523 points, garnered from 15 DYKs and 34 "In the news" items.
 * 🇧🇼 The Rambling Man scored 511 points, many from featured article candidate reviews and from football related DYKs.
 * Standard of Oliver Cromwell (1653–1659).svg Gog the Mild, last year's runner-up, came next with 498 points, from a featured article and numerous featured article candidate reviews.
 * Bennington Flag.svg Hog Farm, at 452, scored for a featured article, four good articles and a number of reviews.
 * 🇺🇸 Le Panini, another newcomer to the WikiCup, scored 438 for a featured article and three good articles.
 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Lee Vilenski, last year's champion, scored 332 points, from a featured article and various other sport-related topics.

These contestants, like all the others, now have to start again from scratch. In Round 1, contestants achieved eight featured articles, three featured lists and one featured picture, as well as around two hundred DYKs and twenty-seven ITNs. They completed 97 good article reviews, nearly double the 52 good articles they claimed. Contestants also claimed for 135 featured article and featured list candidate reviews. There is no longer a requirement to mention your WikiCup participation when undertaking these reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of Round 1 but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or something else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews.

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DYK for Mother to Son
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Harlem (poem)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Negro Speaks of Rivers
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 15:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Vami IV -- Vami IV (talk) 02:21, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Help Me
Eddie891 Hello Admin. I was working on a page called District FM which you recently deleted. Please can you help me move the deleted page to draft please so I can work on it better? Thank You, sirInnocentuzoma (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, before restoring to draftspace, I'd like to see the sources you feel are reliable, provide in-depth and independent coverage of the article. The consensus at the deletion discussion was pretty clearly to delete and not draftify, and No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. Bst, Eddie891 Talk Work 13:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln
The article Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 19:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln
The article Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 02:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Eurovision Song Contest 2022


A tag has been placed on Eurovision Song Contest 2022 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, at Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 May 29. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. — Smjg (talk) 21:54, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day
The article Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hush'd Be the Camps To-Day for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Vami IV -- Vami IV (talk) 20:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Colorized Whitman
Saw this image of colorized Whitman and thought of your admirable work on his articles! Apologies on never getting to review "O Captain! My Captain!", I'll be sure to keep an eye out for any future Whitman work of yours at FAC. Aza24 (talk) 00:37, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Great to hear from you, ! Hope you and yours are well. It is remarkable what they can do with technology these days &mdash; thanks for linking this over here, I really appreciate that you thought of me. I've got some more Whitman in the works, he's proved really rewarding to work on. Recently created a Good topic nomination for the Whitman and Lincoln topic and I might open a peer review for the main Whitman and Lincoln article in a month or so. Thanks for all the work you do and best wishes-- Eddie891 Talk Work 01:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Mopping
Hi, I see on your user page that you've been an admin for just 6 months and are still learning the ropes. I've been an admin for 15 years and I often feel the same way :-) Don't sweat it, you'll figure it out.  -- RoySmith (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Cheers,, good to hear from you! Thanks for the message, It's reassuring to hear I'm not alone-- I learn something new every day, just about! I suspect I'll be learning the ropes for years to come, possibly indefinitely. Thanks for all you do and best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 22:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Help Inquiry
Hello! I wanted to come to you and see if you had insight on helping me add and create this article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Nouveau_Shamanic Draft:Nouveau Shamanic / if it’s a valuable contribution to Wikipedia in your eyes. To me it adds significant information. Let me know your thoughts! Elvisisalive95 (talk) 23:26, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, seems like an interesting topic, but out of my area of interest/expertise, unfortunately. If you aren't having luck creating a stand-alone article, consider whether you can add anything to Nicolas Cage. Sorry I can't be of more help. Bst, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:02, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I truly appreciate your response and tips on what to do if I don’t have luck getting it approved as a stand alone! I hope you have a great rest of your week! Elvisisalive95 (talk) 23:06, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mildred Mottahedeh
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Mildred Mottahedeh you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Z1720 -- Z1720 (talk) 02:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mildred Mottahedeh
The article Mildred Mottahedeh you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Mildred Mottahedeh for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Z1720 -- Z1720 (talk) 03:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mildred Mottahedeh
The article Mildred Mottahedeh you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Mildred Mottahedeh for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Z1720 -- Z1720 (talk) 16:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of If We Must Die
Hello! Your submission of If We Must Die at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! MartinPoulter (talk) 11:13, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
Hello, I'm Dicklyon. I noticed that you recently removed content from War of the Fifth Coalition without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Dicklyon (talk) 02:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I'm rather familiar with editing, thanks. You would do well to read WP:DTTR. Had you looked, you would have found the FAR. Culling the background is reasonable, as outlined there. Eddie891 Talk Work 02:45, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry about the templated warning. But still, an edit summary explaining what you were doing would have been useful to those with the article on watchlist. Thanks for your work on this. Dicklyon (talk) 02:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , In retrospect I shouldn't have assumed that everyone can read my mind-- poor choice on my part! Would you object to my restoring my edit with a proper explanation? imo cutting out should come before building back up but, of course, if there's a problem with what I removed, I'd be happy to discuss it further. Eddie891 Talk Work 02:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and do your edits with explanatory summaries. I probably won't object. Dicklyon (talk) 03:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Sympathy (poem)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Robert T. Kerlin
Hello! Your submission of Robert T. Kerlin at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SL93 (talk) 00:25, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

AfD Close & Move of Page
Hi Eddie, you closed the AfD for Mya Thwe Thwe Khine, I have absolutely no problem on this, of course. But with what I have an issue is indeed the final move of the page by User - the AfD Disc was about a WP:VICTIM Article named "The Death of..." and it is somewhat irritating that hours before closing the article is (once again) moved back to be a WP:BIO Article. Since the AfD Disc was not about a WP:BIO I need you to ask to revert this move. Thanks in advance. CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:35, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I don't see the relation to the afd-- the article nominated, after all, was Mya Thwe Thwe Khine. Based on Aafi's edit summary, I don't think they would mind if it was moved back, but won't speak for them. Discussion about the proper title can take place on article talk. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 23:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I am sorry to read this because I have to disagree - since the article was after AfD Nomination directly renamed and the whole (!) AfD Discussion concentrated on the question if it is a WP:VICTIM or WP:BIO article and formally you closed a WP:BIO article because the move was shortly made before you closing it. Honestly I have to consider taking this move to ANI since the motivation for the final move is quite obvious. CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:53, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The consensus in the AFD was not to delete the article. I'm sorry that you feel this way, but I just don't see a strong consensus one way or another as to the title. Discussion as to where it should be located can still take place at the article talk -- Eddie891 Talk Work 00:42, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , *This move by Taung Tan is definitely undiscussed. It says, Taung Tan moved page Mya Thwe Thwe Khine to "Death of Mya Thwe Thwe Khine" – and they did it right after the AfD was initiated. Later, moved page Death of Mya Thwe Thwe Khine to Mya Thwe Thwe Khine and Taung Tan reverted Commander's move saying, No, you have nothing permission to move this. In this scenario, all of these moves were done against any sort of consensus, and thus are best described as "undiscussed". The article nominated after all was Mya Thwe Thwe Khine. An editor has initiated a RM to get the article renamed. Thanks. ─  The Aafī on Mobile   (talk)|undefined  05:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Babel Proclamation
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Davey
I just saw the above discussion. Wouldn't a Mr. America (contest) winner be presumptively notable under WP:SPORTSPERSON? Or am I missing something? Powers T 18:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, it depends on several things. SPORTSPERSON explicitly says the championship only means that the subject "is likely to have received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." If we can be reasonably sure they don't have that SIGCOV, then deletion may be appropriate. Additionally, you get into the weeds of what a major/significant sports contest is.At least one participant in the discussion also cited the criteria of WP:NMODEL. Most of the participants, however, felt that the subject failed WP:GNG/WP:BIO (note the phrasing at WP:SNG: topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG or the GNG may still be deleted or merged into another article, especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found(emphasis mine)). Regardless, consensus is determined by the reasonable, logical, policy-based arguments presented at the AFD. Admins are not expected to go looking for other arguments afaik. If you're interested in restoring the article and feel there is sufficient coverage, I'd be happy to restore it to draftspace where it can go through AFC. Not sure if this is helpful or even understandable, let me know if you want further clarification. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:55, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the insight. Mostly I was puzzled why no one had brought that factor up in the discussion (and perhaps concerned that no one had realized during the discussion that he had in fact won a major bodybuilding competition), and I wasn't sure where to ask short of deletion review. (I'm also a little concerned by the link removal, leaving him one of the few in the list of Mr. America winners not linked, but that's a more minor issue.) Powers T 17:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Robert T. Kerlin
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey Eddie, I wanted to note that I'm fully in agreement with 's edit to this hook. Can you take a bit more care on this in the future? Thanks! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:14, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * First of all, yes, but second of all, I didn’t write that hook and wouldn’t have written that hook that way had I. You don’t know my background, but (and, yes, the problem did occur to me several times) I’m not educated enough or confident enough to override someone else on pretty much anything, so I gave them the benefit of the doubt (assumed they knew something I didn’t). Eddie891 Talk Work 10:08, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Restore request
Hi there can you restore Nickelodeon Networks please i didnt think it was needing deleted or anything like thatKarrotfan22 (talk) 22:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * At the AfD it seems that there was a general consensus the organization didn't exist, so no. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 22:29, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
 * well sorry to ask you this but can i add nickelodeon networks infobox on ViacomCBS Domestic Media Network underneath the Bet networks lineKarrotfan22 (talk) 00:35, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you provide verification that the organization is actually a real org and not a made up group? Eddie891 Talk Work 00:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

How do i do provide verification?Karrotfan22 (talk) 00:44, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you find reliable sources that establish its existence? Eddie891 Talk Work 00:50, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Yeah Following the recent integration of Paramount Parks and Viacom Consumer Products under the leadership of Nickelodeon Networks president Herb Scannell, Leigh Anne Brodsky and Al Weber have been promoted to new positions, consolidating the leadership of the licensing and recreation businesses under Nickelodeon Enterprises, the ancillary business unit of Nickelodeon Networks. Brodsky has been named president, Nickelodeon and Viacom Consumer Products, and Weber has been named president, Viacom Recreation. Cyma Zarghami is the President of Viacom Inc's (VIA.A and VIA.B) Nickelodeon Networks Group, overseeing all creative and business operations for the company. Now in its 34th year, Nickelodeon is the world's most widely distributed kids' channel, So thats why it must existKarrotfan22 (talk) 00:57, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, nobody is contesting that Nickelodeon exists, rather that there is no organization called "Nickelodeon Networks". What reliable sources refer to such an organization? Eddie891 Talk Work 01:00, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Well i found these on Linkedin and awn.comKarrotfan22 (talk) 01:16, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The user keeps reinstating the article. I have requested salting. IceWelder  &#91; &#9993; &#93; 20:33, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations
Your DYK hook about Robert T. Kerlin drew 6,739 page views (562 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of March as shown at Did you know/Statistics. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 19:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The Babel Proclamation also made the cut with 5,602 page views. Nice work. Cbl62 (talk) 21:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for If We Must Die
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Shrek!
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Triple Crowns




Hi Eddie. While I was reviewing your nominated articles I couldn't help but notice that according to Talk:Evelyn Wang, the article has been at DYK twice, exactly a year apart. That's not a problem for your award, I just thought it was very strange and can only assume it's a mistake. I thought I should bring it to your attention in case the talk page needs to be modified accordingly. Have a great day. Damien Linnane (talk) 04:03, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , Thanks very much for processing this. I noticed that too a while back and it actually turns out it is not an error. The hook ran normally in 2018 and was added in the following year for "main page balance". Not sure why, but it happened. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 12:15, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations, Your Majesty. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  11:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion#Sujit_Bose_%28Indian_politician%29
Could you please check my request as I'm in busy in working with 2021 West Bengal Legislative Assembly election. Pardon me if I have disturbed you.TTP1233 (talk) 13:42, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Fish kick
Hello! Your submission of Fish kick at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Andrew🐉(talk) 17:51, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 12:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

April editathons from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC) via MassMessaging

DYK for Caroling Dusk
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for An Anthology of Verse by American Negroes
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Book of American Negro Poetry
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Negro Poets and Their Poems
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for We Wear the Mask
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Stupendous Stuff
You're a magnificent editor, I really relish the voyages of Wiki wandering and discovering that you lead me on through the vagaries of poetry, history, DYK and BLM. A thousand thanks! No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It means a lot, particularly coming from an editor who has done so much great work, such as yourself. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 16:51, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks very much, ! That's a very cool image. I was shocked to see that these major anthologies were missing articles (and this itself comes from a 3 article project about Langston Hughes's (perhaps) most famous poems) and am glad I've been able to help expand our coverage of these valuable works. All the best, Eddie891 Talk Work 16:57, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Rupert Richardson
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

WikiLoop 2020 Year in Review
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TFA
Thank you today for O Captain! My Captain!, introduced "Arguably Whitman's most famous poem, considered by many critics these days among his worst. I personally am a fan."! - Thanks from the cabal! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

... and more thanks today when we got Featured topics/Walt Whitman and Abraham Lincoln. Excellent stats for the poem, a few thousand more to come today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, ! I'm really quite happy with how the Whitman/Lincoln topic turned out and was pleasantly surprised to see the poem on the mainpage. I hope to get some more articles in the topic to FA in the months to come. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Today Bach's cantata composed for today, - perhaps listen. I hope the cantata will be TFA a year from now. Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Pueblo speech
— Maile (talk) 03:09, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations
Your DYK hook about We Wear the Mask drew 11,041 page views (920 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of March as shown at March 2021 DYK STATS. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 18:40, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Shrek! also made the cut with 7,707 views. Nice work. Cbl62 (talk) 19:09, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Eddie!
Hey, were you planning on doing a DYK submission for Marion Miley? I've been spending this evening expanding it, there's quite a lot of news coverage to go through. Silver seren C 01:40, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I was, but have been having a complete mental block coming up with hooks for it. Please feel free to go ahead and nominate it, if you're interested (just please include me as a co-author), and thanks for your work to date. I'm going to sleep soon. If you want, you can use Template:Did you know nominations/The Duke and Duchess of Windsor in conversation with Kenneth Harris as a QPQ. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 01:45, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I think i'm done with the article for now. There's definitely further improvements that could be made to it, but i'll leave that to others. Too many articles from the 30's to sift through. :P Silver  seren C 23:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Walt Whitman & his rebel soldier friend Pete Doyle, Washington, D.C., 1865
Hi Eddie891, I saw your request for clean up of a photo on Adam Cuerden's talk page (down the rabbit hole of restoring photos and canvassing etc). I thought I would let you know that the photo exists in a restored state on the Commons. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:49, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 March 2021
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Thank you for what you said on Yoninah's talk! ... and the cantata is FA now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Chris Meyer Actor Page
Hi Eddie, you deleted a page for actor Chris Meyer today - the requests to delete were clearly malicious in intent. Can you restore the page please? It would also be a good idea to place the page in protection. The page in question has been victim to near constant vandalism by a stalker who needs to be reported to the police. The actor in question has a clear, legitimate career and is in the public eye. IMDB page — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZacharyFilmFan (talk • contribs) 00:37, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
 * 1) REDIRECT []
 * Sorry, I'm not sure why you think the AfD discussion was malicious. The criteria an actor must meet for an article is WP:GNG/WP:NACTOR, which participants at the discussion felt he did not meet. I suggest you read those guidelines, because it isn't a question of whether someone has a clear, legitimate career, but whether they have significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. If you feel my decision was incorrect, you can bring it up at WP:DRV. All the best, Eddie891 Talk Work 11:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Doyle (transit worker)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Newgen Software closure
Hey, thanks for closing this. Since there have been 5 more deletion discussions in past (and hence multiple creations must have happened), do you think it would be good to protect this page from creation? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 08:44, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive and create a worklist at WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Query...
I've recently created Negress head clock, do you think the section on blackness is adroitly handled? I'm glad of any advice, put-downs or ridicule! I really admire your stellar work on historical attitudes to race. No Swan So Fine (talk) 12:37, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , In my opinion, that's a very nice article and a fine section. I un-linked Africa as I'd consider that overlinking but otherwise found it well-done. I did some trawling for a PD image, found one but am not sure about the quality. Would this or this (different scan of the same image in the article currently) be better? Thanks for your work, Eddie891 Talk Work 13:04, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm also a little confused how someone can be depicted as being clearly 'Moorish'. I'd be inclined to fold that into the quote from the Hillwood Museum (i.e. "The Hillwood Museum describes the allegorical woman of 'Africa' as being historically depicted as "...a Moorish woman (dark-skinned Muslim from Northern Africa), partially nude...") so it's clear where the connection is coming from, but don't feel too strongly. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:09, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much. I've just found the Met's HQ images. It would be great if we could see the clock in situ in either of the royal palaces. I'll try and look into creating Africa (allegorical representation) next. You're quite right on Moorish, I just wanted to refine the quote. No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021). Administrator changes
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Moving a draft to mainspace
Hello, I was wondering if you, as an administrator, could move a userspace draft I created to mainspace for me? The title is protected from creation because it has been created two times before without being adequately sourced. Thanks, OakMapping (talk) 08:31, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've gone ahead and removed the protection per your request and the fact that I don't see the logs as providing a justification for salting. I don't review drafts upon request, but you should feel free to submit the draft for review or move it to the mainspace yourself. Best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 15:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, OakMapping (talk) 15:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for José de la Cruz Mena
—valereee (talk) 00:03, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Notable Black American Women
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Team KART page
Hi Eddie, The wiki page of Team KART was deleted on 9th April 2021, 12:48(UTC). This page was actually an informative page for the freshmen and sophomores of the college Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur. And guides over 3000 people each year to recognize the opportunities for research on the campus. The reasons for deletion were mentioned as promotional even though we took good care of not posting any such material related to sponsorships and promotions on the page. It would be great if you could guide me to the problems on the page so that it can be restored. Swarnimraj9 (talk) 09:01, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Do several independent, reliable sources provide significant coverage of the topic? The consensus at Articles for deletion/Team KART was that this was not the case. Further, as a COI editor, please have a read of WP:COI, WP:PSCOI, and other relevant guidelines. The purpose of Wikipedia is certainly not to promote any organization. Let me know if I can answer any further questions. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:00, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Luis Abraham Delgadillo
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 1
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Marion Miley
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

soft delete
Hi! I saw that you relisted Articles for deletion/Ajay Kumar Garg Engineering College for more discussion when a soft delete would have been apt as pointed out by the bot. Can you please reconsider. Thanks! VV 13:47, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , The discussion was already relisted by, indicating that he did not think a soft delete was appropriate, which I took to be akin to contesting a prod, rendering soft delete innapropraite. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:49, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, I just generally relist empty discussions in the hope that somebody will voice an opinion, irrespective of any soft deletion considerations.  Sandstein   14:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Beverley Anderson-Manley
Thanks for starting Beverley Anderson-Manley. However, I am not sure if the title, nor the heavy use of "Anderson-Manley" throughout, is the most common nor appropriate. For her memoir she uses the name Beverly Manley, which is the preferred name form in WorldCat and all VIAF databases. The majority of citations in the article seem to use "Beverly Manley", as does C-SPAN, In Darrell Levi's biography of Michael Manley, usage of "Beverly Manly" outnumbers "Beverly Anderson-Manley", although the latter is used when the author directly acknowledges the subject (acknowledgement, interviews, etc.). Articles in The Gleaner seem to use a mixture of both (sometimes in the same article), in addition to the more recent name Beverley Duncan or Beverly Anderson Duncan (with and without the hyphen). In total, I think "Beverly Manley" is the most widely used and recognized name and should be the article title per WP:COMMONNAME, even if "Anderson-Manley" or "Anderson Manley" was her legal name during and after her first marriage. What do you think? --Animalparty! (talk) 05:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , quite right. I've moved and edited accordingly. Thanks. Eddie891 Talk Work 11:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 April 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here. If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 02:09, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

War of the Fifth Coalition rescue

 * Happy to be able to help,, though most of the credit should go to you. It was a pleasure work with you, as always Eddie891 Talk Work 00:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Could I get some eyes on User talk:Whitney Gaines?
User accidentally edited while logged out. New librarian user has been badgered a bit today by a well-meaning established user who noticed the new user placing uploaded images which didn't meet that user's quality standard. It would be nice if someone besides myself was encouraging to this GLAM user who means well and engages on talk. If you read the talk page you'll get it. Thanks. BusterD (talk) 01:18, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look tomorrow, off to bed now Eddie891 Talk Work 01:20, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks as always. BusterD (talk) 01:27, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Disappointed I couldn't get there in time... Not what I wanted to start my day by seeing :-( Eddie891 Talk Work 15:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry for calling on another admin. I was concerned about urgency because I was afraid we'd lose the new editor. By the time I called on you, the situation was already worse than it ever should have been. They have blanked their pages, and I have hopes they'll be back. As I mentioned on Hog Farm's talk, none of this was Whitney's or Holly's doing. They merely attempted to add pages uploaded in bulk as pdfs by their IT group. Sad. I'm not giving up. Thanks for your help. BusterD (talk) 16:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you ...
... for improving articles in April! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for The Sleepers (poem)
— Maile (talk) 12:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

March 2021 GAN Backlog drive

 * Like previously, thank you for coordinating the drive. — <b style="color:#000000">The Most Comfortable</b> <b style="color:#8500F2">Chair</b> 17:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

FAC of R. A. B. Mynors
Hi Eddie891, I hope you are doing fine. I'm contacting you because Gerda Arendt mentioned you as a person with relevant FA experience. I'm about to nominate R. A. B. Mynors for second run at FAC after addressing issues that were raised at the previous nomination. Since Gerda recommended you, I was wondering whether you might want to contribute a review when the article arrives at FAC. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 22:10, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can take a look, though feeling rather unmotivated when it comes to higher-class article writing and reviewing at the moment. Regardless, I should be able to manage it Eddie891 Talk Work 23:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Eric Anthony Abrahams
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

ygm mail
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The Signpost: 25 April 2021
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Discontent Content Issue 2
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

May 2021 at Women in Red
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