User talk:Edgar181/Archive42

I noticed that you just blocked this user for edit filter tripping. Did you mean to only do so for 24 hours? I didn't look at the filter hits themselves, but I usually see indefinite blocks occur as a result. Just wanted to give you an FYI in case you, by chance, didn't mean to set an expiration. ;-) Cheers -  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   12:50, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * 24 hours was intentional. All of the edits that triggered the edit filter were essentially "test edits" - just adding some random text to the article - rather than anything apparently malicious.  24 hours is enough to stop the immediate disruption, but lenient enough to allow them to return if they want to move beyond test edits and actually contribute.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:55, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular
   

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Draft:Poly(ethyl methacrylate)
I have made improvements to the article based on your comments in the cleanup tag, as well as other additions. Do you feel the article is ready for publishing, or is there more that should be done? It isn't a lengthy article....  Dig deeper talk 21:57, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks good to me now. Thanks for taking the time to resolve the issues and for creating the article in the first place.  Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:02, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Great, I've moved it to the article space. Thanks for your help!  Dig deeper talk 20:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:37, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Edit on pages
Hello, I do work for Brenntag. My major edit was for the Brenntag home page to add a genuine link. We have launched a portal which I'd like to add as a legitimate addition. How do I do this without breaking the rules.

Regards, kluze08
 * According to Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines (see WP:COI for details) you should not, in general, be editing articles where you have a such a conflict. If you think the external link should be added to the article, you can make that suggestion on the article's talk page.  Then uninvolved editors can take a look a decide whether it is appropriate or not.  Personally, I don't think an external link to the company's "online platform for digital marketing and e-commerce" is necessary for the article and the link in the company's main website, which is already listed in the External links section, is sufficient.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

24.180.22.233
user:24.180.22.233 has been abusing her talkpage, and she attempted to do it again today. CLCStudent (talk) 21:24, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have revoked talk page access. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:26, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Please undo the test
I see you did a RevDel action as a test. Now that you saw the results, please revert - there's no reason for hiding this content of the log. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:45, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I thought I did.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:35, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

216.53.168.61
user:216.53.168.61 is abusing her talkpage. CLCStudent (talk) 16:43, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Talk page access revoked. Thanks for letting me know.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:44, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

159.191.138.254
user:159.191.138.254 is clearly only here to vandalize. CLCStudent (talk) 20:36, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Blocked. Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Facebook
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Facebook. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Sock of
Hi, you blocked last month for copyright and general competency. They've returned as, and it's a really obvious sockpuppet with the same competency concerns. The |mflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?users=Drama+panchi&users=BeypanahDrama+&users=&startdate=&enddate=&ns=&server=enwiki editor interaction report makes it really clear, plus they've created several articles in main space that they created earlier that are in draft space. Would you mind taking a look? Thanks!  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:38, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree, it does appear to be the same individual. I have indefinitely blocked the account.  I suspect this won't be the last one, so please feel free to let me know if you encounter other accounts with the same issue.  Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:45, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Will do - appreciate the help. Wish they'd just been open to discussion and not gone down this route.  Ravensfire  (talk) 12:07, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

New message from Thomas Westerlaken
Thanks a lot for helping out! You make my efforts to protect wikipedia from vandalism worth it, Thomas Westerlaken (talk) 12:26, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to help. Thank you to you as well. Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:28, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Please give your input, thanks. It;s not you who violated 3RR, someone who you reverted violated it. Sorry for any confusion I caused.211.26.200.179 (talk) 13:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Please copy to CLCstudent's talk page (or however his name is spelt - the real one - not one an impersonator created).
 * Thanks for letting me know. This is simple vandalism and the IP addresses involved are both already covered by a range block.  Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:12, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Don't fragment the discussion, though.211.26.200.179 (talk) 14:23, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Regarding User:Aasthabd
Hi Edgar181. You deleted 's user page for G11. Please refer to my UAA report currently there. Since all his created pages have been deleted I am unable to remember the specifics, but I UAA'ed him as his username seems to be related to the company article he created and then deleted. Thus I believe he should be indefed for promotional UAA. Regards, Optakeover (U)(T)(C) 14:38, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * In fact, you might want to refer to and tally this to his deleted page.  Optakeover (U)(T)(C) 14:39, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have now blocked the user. Thanks for letting me know.   Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Hjuhbj ssb
Why did you decline my report at WP:AIV? It wasn't a content dispute, it was pure vandalism (or at worse WP:NOTHERE). Hjuhbj ssb should be banned. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:02, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 * AIV is for obvious vandalism. Administrators are not experts in every topic and can't necessarily tell if certain information is correct or incorrect, so under these conditions immediately blocking isn't appropriate and other venues such as WP:ANI where more complex issues can be evaluated are better at handling it.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Lordbuddhasharnam
Forgot to block. Done. Cheers! -- Alexf(talk) 12:00, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that! Don't know what happened.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

TippieCOBLogo
Hi Ed, can you delete the File:TippieCOBLogo it seems like someone has uploaded it as nonfree media, and this one should be deleted. TippieLover1921 (talk) 19:30, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Need for registered editor to make major edit
The purported “3D” structure shown in the Abamectin box is not in fact 3D when clicked; rather, it presents this macrocycle errantly/deceptively as a planar, PAH-like form. To add insult to injury, the misrepresentation of this complex chemistry is apparently coded into the box so it cannot be changed. Can you please see to this and any related errors regarding this family of complex, truly and critically 3D (not planar 2D) structures? As well, in the long term, features of boxes that are automatically generated should contain, in the markup, some feature or mechanism to allow a knowledable general editor (not specialising in the boxes) to address cases when the automatically filled/generated information is incorrect. Appreciate your leadership on that matter as well. Thank you. 2600:1008:B10D:1089:11E2:20DA:C2FD:6533 (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * P.S. I am sorry to see so much of your valuable, expert time to be taken up with administrative matters. Kudos and best wishes. 2600:1008:B10D:1089:11E2:20DA:C2FD:6533 (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries. Thanks for catching the error and letting me know.  This problem that you have encountered is a known limitation of the website that generates the 3D structures.  It simply fails with large molecules.  To remove the link to the incorrect 3D structure, the text "| Jmol=None" can be added to the infobox as I have done in this edit.  Please feel to do this yourself the next time you encounter this issue.  Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Need help to delete a revision in revision history.
I Need an administrators help to delete a revision in revision history on a page.
 * I can help. What page, or which edit?  -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:17, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. The revision in this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rodney_Mullen&oldid=897959506
 * In general, the criteria for revision deletion is limited. I'm not sure this particular case warrants it, but for now I'll assume that the addition of one particular individual's name to the article was a form of harassment/cyberbullying and so I've gone ahead and hidden that edit.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:23, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yep that was the reason. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sellsomepapers (talk • contribs) 18:48, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to help. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Yehuda Berg
OK, I wasn't sure how to do citations, but reference 2 and 3 in article has the information that I updated cited already. I added the reference, but couldn't do the hyperlink. Thanks for your help. People should be warned of potential sexual predators and that he was latter found for malice and causing intentional harm. That was a big moment in his life and and should be in the first paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kabbalahneutron (talk • contribs) 13:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I've formatted your additions in a more typical Wikipedia style. I think it's all sorted out now.  Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

AM-1241
Hi Edgar181, you recently changed the molar mass of AM-1241 from 503.333 ot 503.340. I've checked with multiple molar mass calculators and the correct average mass for C22H22IN3O3 appears to be 503.333. Could you please double check? Cheers, Destruktor5000 (talk) 15:37, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The infobox automatically calculates the molar mass based on the chemical formula (the line "| C=22 | H=22 | I=1 | N=3 | O=3" in AM-1241). However, if the line "| molecular_weight = " is included, then the value entered there overrides the automatic calculation.  I removed the "molecular_weight" line, which should result in no net change, but there was a small change in this case, as you noticed.  There appears to be differences in values reported at various online sources: Pubchem reports 503.34, but ChemSpider reports 503.333, for example.  The issue is that there is some disagreement regarding what exactly is the average mass for each element. So presumably the infobox is using one set of standard values for the average masses for elements, whereas some other sources or mass calculators use different values.  If this is the case, then this is a bigger issue than this one article.  Perhaps this could be brought up at Template talk:Infobox drug and there can be a discussion about what is the best data source Wikipedia can use for the average masses of elements.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for clearing this up. I wasn't even aware, that the infobox could calculate the molecular weight automatically. Differing sets of standard values can indeed be a source of confusion. Will look into it further when I have the time. Thanks again,--Destruktor5000 (talk) 17:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Cooknbake
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 17:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks for letting me know.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Carbon tetrachloride
I found a box of 20 ampoules with carbon tetrachloride since 1935. Can I send you pictures of emails .. and get more answers about it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.100.245.234 (talk) 21:52, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes. Sounds interesting.  My email address is edgar181@gmail.com.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

User:Htvpk360
I think that user page was self promotion, given the username. The draft article should be deleted altogether.211.26.200.179 (talk) 11:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree there's an apparent conflict of interest, but I don't think it's exclusively promotional to the point of being speedy deletable. Please feel free to nominate it for deletion at WP:MFD, however, if you think that's the better option.  Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:29, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't include the word speedy in the post, though. The only exception is if draft articles get deleted, it's always the speedy kind. 211.26.200.179 (talk) 11:32, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Draft articles that do not qualify for speedy deletion are routinely deleted through MFD. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:34, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you do that please? I'm not confident. Thanks.211.26.200.179 (talk) 11:37, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure. Here it is:   Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:HTV.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:53, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I may have forgot to raise this question: Isn't it clearly stated that Wikipedia isn't for soap boxing or promotion? That should, in my opinion, be enough to delete the draft right away. I don't see what's not promotional.211.26.200.179 (talk) 12:02, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, a neutrally worded article could be generated from this draft with a little unbiased editing. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:09, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * But the blocked user shouldn't edit it, even if he changes his username, right?211.26.200.179 (talk) 12:15, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Htvpk360 is softblocked so they are permitted to create an account with a different username. If they have a conflict of interest, the conflict of interest policy strongly discourages them from editing the article, but does not forbid it.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:45, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks and bye!211.26.200.179 (talk) 12:55, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Viridiflorol molecule
Hi there, I don't really know where to post this, so I figured out your talk page may be the best place.

I think there is a mistake in the Viridiflorol molecule that you sketched, and that illustrates the related Wikipedia articles. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Viridiflorol.svg

The -OH group is not linked to the proper carbon I think, which I am quite sure after some searches on google https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Viridiflorol

Hope this can help ! Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.18.224.93 (talk) 07:49, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're correct. I have now uploaded a replacement image to correct the error.  Thanks for catching the problem and letting me know.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:57, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Criticism of Huawei
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Alkanes
Hallo Edgar, I wonder why the link I added (melting point of alkanes / visualization) is inappropriate? Dr. Mukick
 * In general, external links should not be referred to in the body of an article like that. Maybe it would be ok for the "Further reading" section at the bottom of the article though.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:25, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

The IP 5.172.235.211 who undid tons of templates
Is there a way you can undo all of the edits, tried undoing some of them but it was becoming too much (As I said same thing happened last night with the same person under another IP) Wgolf (talk) 17:34, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. I have the tool User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js installed.  I don't think you have to be an administrator to use it.  I don't use it often, but it sure is handy in cases like this - one click and you're done.   Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:03, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Revdel request
Hi. Out of an abundance of caution, could you please revision delete this edit? I found you using the recently active admins tool. Anne drew 15:03, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Definitely worth revision deletion. Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:05, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Community consensus
If a user has been blocked for promotional username with related promo in userspace, it should always be deleted along with the page it's on. It should never be a draft because it usually won't be edited because the related user will be blocked and COI is an issue even if the account is renamed. That should be what community consensus suggests. Thanks.211.26.200.179 (talk) 12:57, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you point to a discussion where that consensus has been established? -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:59, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm raising this issue here because such discussion has never existed or been started according to my knowledge.211.26.200.179 (talk) 13:01, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, it would not be a good idea to make a rule that such pages should always be deleted and should never be a draft. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:03, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Why?211.26.200.179 (talk) 13:06, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sometimes those pages have useful content. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:07, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * But doing so would be self promotion, only by a different person.211.26.200.179 (talk) 13:09, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Through the AFC process, draft articles are reviewed by experienced Wikipedia editors. If the article content is too promotional, the draft will be declined (or the reviewing editor may edit the article to make it acceptable).  Declined and abandoned drafts are routinely deleted if they aren't edited within a certain time period.  So the net result is that anything valuable to Wikipedia may be salvaged and anything that isn't valuable will be deleted.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
 * But what's so notable about these things?211.26.200.179 (talk) 08:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * That's an evaluation that is best done when/if the drafts are completed and submitted. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:51, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Then why have such drafts in the past been deleted before submission?211.26.200.179 (talk) 12:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Without a specific example, I can't say; but drafts that are not edited or submitted for six months are routinely deleted per WP:CSD. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The one you nominated on my behalf was deleted in a week!211.26.200.179 (talk) 12:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * There are different standards for different deletion processes. That article was not sufficiently promotional to be immediately deleted (WP:CSD requires the page to be "exclusively promotional") so declining speedy deletion and instead having discussion at MFD was the appropriate action.  If it had been even less promotional, leaving it be until it was either submitted through AFC or it qualified for G13 would have been best.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello Edgar181
Would you help me create an article to translate from Wikipedia in Spanish? The article is Víctor Díaz Rúa

Thank you! --Mega809 (talk) 15:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't speak Spanish, so I don't think I could be much help translating that article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:24, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Ed. Just letting you know that I've modified the block you placed on this account to a hard block - I appreciate that you were probably trying to go easy on this user, but having viewed (and G11'd) their sandbox, I see no merit in allowing them the freedom to create a new account; based on their unblock request they clearly have no intention here beyond telling the world how great their product is. If you've any concerns with this modification, please feel free to drop me a note. All the best, Yunshui 雲 水 07:43, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * That’s fine with me. Thanks for letting me know.  Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:21, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing for my faculty
Hi Edgar,

I hope you're doing well. I recently received your response to my inquiry regarding editing and creating content on Wikipedia for my faculty members in my department. Since I do work for the department, I have an internal relationship with them. Our goal was to update and provide current information about our professors and their work. I'm hoping this doesn't violate any policies or mean that there could be a conflict of interest. Can you please let me know how I can create and edit the content on Wikipedia without it being removed? However, if the content is removed daily to verify the accurancy and validity of the content, I completely understand. What would be the steps I need to take to properly provide information to Wikipedia? I mainly want to add awards/honors, their backstory, and their current information (nothing too personal) on their wiki pages. Thank you very much!

Best, Julio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikijg (talk • contribs) 16:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Put simply, Wikipedia guidelines suggest that someone in your situation is strongly discouraged from editing articles about UCLA faculty. You can instead suggest changes to articles using their talk pages and let an uninvolved editor evaluate the suggestions.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:00, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

37.72.112.6 Editing Block
Hi Ed,

You recently put a block on the above IP address which is due to expire this evening. I would recommend you make this a permanent block from editing, I'm the Network Administrator for the school which has this public IP. We recently had a change of ISP which has resulted in a new public IP address, therefore some students have figured they can vandalise pages.

I'd rather save a number of different administrators the headache of undoing changes.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GandalfSpy (talk • contribs) 09:41, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
 * In general, we don't block IP addresses permanently because (as you note) they can change. So I have placed a 6 month "soft block" on your school's IP address (anonymous editing is not permitted, but registered users can still edit while using the IP address). If vandalism from the IP returns after the block expires, a block of greater length can be applied.  Thanks for letting me know about the issue.  Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:27, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Jimbo
Many thanks for protecting the page. This particular socking vandal has been regularly at it since last month (i.e. ). Just in case you think a single day at a time may not be enough... Thanks again, — Paleo Neonate  – 00:43, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know this particular vandal is persistent, but Jimbo prefers to have his user page unprotected as much as possible. That’s why I only protected for a couple of hours.  The vandal will be back regardless, but there’s enough people watching the page to keep things under control.  Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 01:18, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, — Paleo Neonate  – 02:19, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

New User:
Hope all is well, I truly hope that I am using the correct section to query you since I am trying figure everything out on my own due to an overwhelming plethora of information on the Wikipedia site as a whole. First, I'd like to say thank you for being extremely thorough as an administrator, & overall productive citizen; I respect your passion for order, & balance. With that said, I simply need your help.

I am trying my best to help a recent Pennsylvania State University graduate, & young hip-hop/rap artist from Connecticut continue to build his image, & creditability within the music industry by consolidating some of his experiences as a "local celebrity" (if you will); to strengthen his online presence.

I've noticed that the page I worked on pertaining to the said musician, was deleted, & I'm hoping that you may be ever so gracious to share with me in a more detailed manner, as to- why […] & if possible, do not hesitate to share a suggestion/solution in reference to your rationale. I thought it may have been the amount of photos, or dimensions of the photos, but I do not understand where I went wrong, & would love to correct it immediately with your help!

Please do not hesitate to contact me at your earliest convenience to being a part of helping a young man's (fellow human being) dreams come to fruition. Thank you for your time, & energy.

From my family to yours- Peace, & Prosperity.

Hope — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yumi4us (talk • contribs) 15:11, 14 July 2019 (UTC)


 * In general, your user page is reserved for information about yourself as it relates to your contributions to Wikipedia. As a promotional article about someone else, User:Yumi4us met criteria for deletion.  Advertising and promotion, as you describe is your intent here, is simply not permitted on Wikipedia either in user pages or in articles.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:14, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Chandana Jayaratne
Hi, you deleted the above article following this Afd. Would you consider WP:SALT the article (and Chandana Jayarathne) as has a history of recreating articles which have been deleted via Afd without improving on the deleted versions?--Obi2canibe (talk) 16:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:16, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Electronic cigarette
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Electronic cigarette. Legobot (talk) 04:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Woohoo
Thank you! -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:48, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

37.111.236.184
Could you please block user:37.111.236.184. She is persistently vandalizing. CLCStudent (talk) 16:22, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:23, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Glutaconic acid
Hi Edgar,

Could you find a CAS number for Z-glutaconic acid (cis-glutaconic acid)? I have already this one of E-glutaconic acid = 628-48-8. Thanks --Titou (talk) 15:49, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I added CAS numbers to the article for cis, trans, and uspecified isomers. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:09, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * okay thanks! I add those too on the french version. I have another question about Nitrendipine on which there is one stereocenter. In fact, it would explain the second CAS numbers (86052-02-0, in addition to 39562-70-4) that I found on ChemIDPlus and said (+/-)-isomer. So what is 39562-70-4? and could you find the CAS numbers of the two enantiomers? --Titou (talk) 15:52, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Here's what I found:
 * 39562-70-4 (+/-)-nitrendipine
 * 80890-07-9 (+)-(R)-nitrendipine
 * 80873-62-7 (-)-(S)-nitrendipine
 * Chemical Abstracts lists 86052-02-0 as a "Deleted CAS Registry Number" at the record for (+/-)-nitrendipine
 * Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181)

Nice to meet you

 * I'm glad to help. Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for the IP block on 84.64.30.253 :)
 * You're welcome. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Tom Kratman close
Thank you for the kind words. I just want to add that we got in some good teamwork here and User:Nihonjoe and User:E.M.Gregory were great in digging up useful sources. Despite everything, it was AfD at its best. Haukur (talk) 01:20, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks to all of you, and a question. The fellow who initiated the AfD, has to be one of the most Obvious Socks Being Obvious this side of Kermit, no? Qwirkle (talk) 06:22, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, obviously not a new user. The account appears to have been created solely for the purpose of trying to get a related group of articles deleted, knowing that doing so under their own name would damage their reputation.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:09, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, it seems to have been created because people asked. See  and User talk:73.76.220.8. Uncle G (talk) 08:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * 73.76.220.8 is currently checkuser-blocked for three months, so obviously there is abuse going on here. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:05, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * For the record, this individual has also used open proxies including 208.84.152.0/22 and 209.209.238.149. -- Ed (Edgar181)

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User talk:61.255.223.178
You may wish revoke talk page access. IP has returned to editing after being blocked. VictorTorres2002 (talk) 04:18, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for letting me know.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:09, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

File:Sulcatone.svg
Hi Edgar181,

Thanks for patrolling and checking new chemical pages and adding images.

I saw you uploaded File:Sulcatone.svg, but it appears to be missing one carbon atom in the chain. What you uploaded here was 5-methyl-4-hexen-2-one. So perhaps it could be renamed, or you could replace it with a correct version. A correct structure appears to be on. Note our original IP author for the Sulcatone page appeared to have a wrong stdinchi. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You're right. I have corrected the image now.  Thanks for catching the error and letting me know.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:06, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

request to remove looping redirect
PLX7486

Thank you Mfernflower (talk) 17:08, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Assuming you are asking me to start an article about PLX7486, I will take a look a later today and see what I can find. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:52, 7 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Perhaps deletion is better as seems all information on structure of the drug has been stripped from internet Mfernflower (talk) 18:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think the information was stripped from the internet, it just hasn't made it there in the first place. For business reasons, details about drugs in the early stages of drug development are often considered proprietary and kept confidential for as long as possible.  In regards to an article about PLX7486, I don't think it is yet sufficiently notable enough to warrant an article (and, as you have noted, there isn't much publicly known about to use to write an article).  But since it is mentioned at Plexxikon, a redirect from PLX7486 to Plexxikon is good to have because someone looking for information about PLX7486 should be redirected to Plexxikon where it is mentioned.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:16, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Chemical formulas again
Hi, Edgar! I created ~1000 formula redir pages manually but there are more ~3000 to create. I want to use a bot and opened a discussion about it. If you are interested in... Gyimhu (talk) 18:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

request for svg image
sybr safe

thanks Mfernflower (talk) 02:35, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Huge amount of chemical redirects?
If you have a minute, I have a question that’s been tugging at me for a little bit now... (Regarding the amount of chemical redirects I see in the RfD) James-the-Charizard (talk) 16:59, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Please ask. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:03, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Why are there so many of these wrong redirects...? It’s baffling how many incorrect ones were made... Was there some problems with a bot or user...? James-the-Charizard (talk) 21:07, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * There are many thousands of molecular formula redirects and set index pages. Up until now, all were created manually by many different users over the years without any kind of review.  User:Gyimhu is currently making a thorough effort to curate them all and to create missing ones, and he's sending the errors that he finds to RFD. So that's why you're seeing so many in recent days or weeks.  These incorrect ones seem to be mostly the result of simple typos and actually represent only a very small percentage of the total.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:15, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree. I checked 8375 of the 15457 carbon-containing formulas. ~50 redirects were bad: not much. The typical bad redirect is old: before 2010. The formula often changed in the article, which was not followed by the formula page. Gyimhu (talk) 22:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't know it was actually mostly correct... Whoops... James-the-Charizard (talk) 04:11, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Joann Store Locator Page
Please note that Jo-Ann_Stores doesn't have Jo-Ann Store locator which confirms the information mentioned on this sentence "Jo-Ann Stores are located in 49 states. The only state without a Jo-Ann Store is Hawaii, although Jo-Ann Stores will ship to the location via its online store." I had purposely added joanns-coupons.com/store-locator Joann Fabrics Store Locator to it.Jayesh2002r (talk) 19:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Your coupon website isn't an appropiate reference to use on Wikipedia. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:30, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Indian Super League
instead of useless blocking, fix this page where they gave pune and delhi different names without appropriate source!!!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Indian_Super_League_season — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.188.139.101 (talk) 21:30, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to tell me. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:13, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

47 Meters Down
Hello! The vandalism on 47 Meters Down: Uncaged has started again. Will you please readd the protection? MushroomDiamond (talk) 18:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thanks for letting me know.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:47, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Sakshi Talwar
Hello Sir, new users is continously adding advertising materials and also unsourced contents to the articles. Earlier you blocked user:Rugsandbeyond1 for advertisement and now this user is adding the same content again. Could you semi-protect the article for some period of time or block the new user? Thank you. Tolly 4  bolly  13:05, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I protected the article for 3 days. If the problem returns after the protection expires please feel free to let me know or report to WP:RFPP to have the protection extended.  Regards,  -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:08, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Edgar181
Sorry for an inappropriate link in the encyclopedia? Thank you! I'm sorry, but I don't understand why this links are not approprite for encyclopedia?. --chem2019 (talk) 22:35, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * You were replacing high quality references to academic and government sources with links to priyamstudycentre.com, a very low quality, poorly written commercial website. Please do not attempt to do so again. I recommend that you have a look at Wikipedia's guidelines regarding reliable sources, Reliable sources, and external links, External links.  Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:28, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Francesca Verones
Hi Edgar 181,

I see that you deleted a page on Francesca Verones in March. I was planning an article on her (see User:KataMaren/Francesca Verones), could you please explain why it was deleted? KataMaren (talk) 09:45, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I deleted the page as a result of the discussion at Articles for deletion/Francesca Verones. I suggest making sure the concerns about notability that were raised there have been addressed in your new version.  Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Untitled
hello Edgar thanks for the good work ,a have read an I have understood the topic.I am a medical student at mbarara university in Uganda.i am interested in going further in research — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.230.108.30 (talk • contribs)
 * If you need assistance editing Wikipedia, please let me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:28, 5 September 2019 (UTC)