User talk:Edgerck/start

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Richard Feynman in The Character of Physical Law wrote "The energy associated with motion appears as an extra mass, so things get heavier when they move." This POV and the associated name "relativistic mass" are outdated and not used in physics today. The opposite view, that ("things do not get heavy when they move") and that the only type of mass is invariant mass, is not the least controversial today (see WP:RS source below). This article is in violation of WP:NPOV and WP:RS. Historical references may mention the previous use of "relativistic mass", as done in the version of 03:09, 24 May 2007 (ref. below).

I am sourcing this comment under WP:NPOV and WP:RS, to (inter alia) Mass.

The last version that is not in violation is 03:09, 24 May 2007, as edited by 137.132.3.11.

I formally request the editor who reverted from 03:09, 24 May 2007 to reinstate that version in a timely manner, preventing other WP editors from working on the current version visible -- with the subsequent loss of work.

Regarding the "error" claimed in the source cited, I kindly suggest you follow WP:NPOV and WP:RS policies. You can find it in a peer reviewed publication at least as authoritative as the source cited, or publish your correction of it in the same verifiable manner, and then use it in this discussion. Otherwise, you are not following WP:NPOV and WP:RS.

WP policy says that "Zero information is preferred to misleading or false information". Thus, what did not meet WP policy should (as it was) deleted. Please provide a WP:NPOV and WP:RS compliant reference for every affirmation of article content you make above (eg, example about the atomic bomb) or please do not use them in WP discussions or articles.

EDIT POSITIONS ON MAY22/07
Conservation_of_mass: Revision as of 00:43, 22 May 2007

Mass-energy equivalence: Revision as of 04:28, 24 May 2007 Mass in special relativity: 23:37, 21 May 2007

early results
On May 21, 2007, I received a disputed 3RR warning because someone else reverted my edits +3x and I was not silent about it (it was an "eye-sore" case). This shows that there are indeed strong forces binding editors, including myself, to material in the articles. This also shows that the seeded information may not survive very long, as there is no binding force to other editors!

NPOV tag reversal
Please be respectful to others and their points of view. This means: Do not simply revert changes in a dispute. A tag calling the dispute a dispute -- see WP:NPOV and references -- should not be reverted unless there is a resolution. I disagree with its removal.

I kindly ask you to please reinstate the tags and follow WP policy.

Wikipedia relies on what reliable sources have said about the matter. By relying on what sources have reported about a subject, WP limits the influence of an editor's POV. The incorrect information in this page is not accepted in the mainstream, and it is easy to find numerous sources taking the "correct", or mainstream, position.

I have made all the proper requests according to WP policy. I have no need to repeat myself, as WP has all my comments and edited pages in the archives. I am now entering a disengage phase in the hope that this will be helpful.