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Source for DW interview
https://skating-to-music.blog/2020/08/23/a-coming-of-age-story-david-wilson-talks-about-his-collaboration-with-shoma-uno/ Do you think that's a reliable source? Editor120918756 (talk) 18:43, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems to be a blog so no. Artemisia (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It's a lengthy interview though, the publisher himself is a musicologist and professor. Editor120918756 (talk) 19:03, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The problem is it is self-published, so we can't use it per WP:SPS. Artemisia (talk) 19:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Can we use videos? TSL and some of the older Korean videos had comments from him. TSL might still be a blog, I guess... Editor120918756 (talk) 19:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a Japan Times article that summarises some of his comments on TSL. That might be preferable to using the actual videos. YouTube is usually discouraged as a source. Artemisia (talk) 19:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm trying to skim through some articles and see if they're on archive, just found the one you linked actually. One from Dick Button too. https://web.archive.org/web/20171120160109/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2017/10/17/figure-skating/olympic-legend-buttons-advice-hanyu-dont-overtrain/#.WhL8X-TP1ZU
 * And one from DW: https://web.archive.org/web/20180822123445/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2018/08/21/figure-skating/choreography-legend-david-wilson-man-demand/#.W31YiOTP1ZU
 * Also, is soompi legit? https://www.soompi.com/article/482408wpp/rising-young-chinese-figure-skater-meets-her-idol-yuna-kim Li Zijun idolised her haha Editor120918756 (talk) 19:29, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * No, Soompi is considered unreliable per WP:KO/RS. Artemisia (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! I am back and am far less busy now! I hope to get the two articles I took up done by the end of the year!! Editor120918756 (talk) 05:32, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! I have also been busy recently but I will try to get some more work done over the next few weeks! Artemisia (talk) 14:58, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Done! I made the changes in the main article now, you may proofread. With the korean citations, I'd be grateful if you could double check and also give the translated titles in the references. Editor120918756 (talk) 05:38, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Source collection
IFS 2009: https://ifsmagazine.com/yuna-kim-riding-a-golden-wave/

JT

https://web.archive.org/web/20160717091712/http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2016/03/15/figure-skating/choreographer-wilson-regrets-transformative-kims-early-retirement#.V4tNJXbP1PZ

https://web.archive.org/web/20171120160109/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2017/10/17/figure-skating/olympic-legend-buttons-advice-hanyu-dont-overtrain/#.WhL8X-TP1ZU

https://web.archive.org/web/20180822123445/https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2018/08/21/figure-skating/choreography-legend-david-wilson-man-demand/#.W31YiOTP1ZU

https://www.soompi.com/article/482408wpp/rising-young-chinese-figure-skater-meets-her-idol-yuna-kim

https://web.archive.org/web/20140314060055/https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/02/the-sad-perfect-end-of-kim-yunas-figure-skating-reign/283986/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-KRTB-5726

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2020/02/25/yuna-kim-vancouver-2010/

https://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Sports/view?articleId=119282

https://web.archive.org/web/20100815031717/http://goldenskate.com/articles/2009/102309.shtml Editor120918756 (talk) 09:32, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

tech sources
https://thediplomat.com/2014/02/yuna-kims-silver-medal-politics-or-poor-sportsmanship/

https://www.reuters.com/article/businesspropicks-us-olympics-figure-skat-idUSTRE61N1KD20100224

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2013/12/06/yuna-kim-figure-skating-golden-spin-zagreb-short-program/

https://www.korea.net/NewsFocus/Sports/view?articleId=171654

https://olympics.com/en/news/yuna-kim-the-queen-of-the-rink

https://web.archive.org/web/20140303044845/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/02/13/sports/olympics/figure-skating-jumps.html Editor120918756 (talk) 20:39, 31 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Only two citations needed for skating technique now, can you proofread the section, and maybe see where we can find the other two? And should I add about the triple loop and injury? The sources have a lot of old information. Editor120918756 (talk) 09:09, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Also have three sections in Artistry now, because I found a lot of things, including allusions to SLB working with her, Bezic's thoughts on Bond, the team work on various programs, so on. Also felt Homage to Korea deserved a larger description. Editor120918756 (talk) 08:16, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20121229111001/http://yunaforum.com/wiki/2011 also this should be informative about philanthropy and olympic bid!! Editor120918756 (talk) 09:16, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Last question for now - according to this, don't we need to restructure the article sections? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Figure_Skating/Manual_of_Style#Sections Editor120918756 (talk) 15:06, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We don't need to strictly adhere to the structure recommended here, we can adapt it depending on the article. You can see discussion of this on the talk page. I am afraid I am going to have to review this at the weekend as I am pretty busy right now, hope that's all right! Artemisia (talk) 00:12, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That's fine, we can be slow, just a wiki article. Haven't edited much myself in the past couple of days. Editor120918756 (talk) 06:10, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, I have finally been able to get around to this. I think the triple loop is definitely worth adding as it is sometimes cited as one of the reasons for her loss in 2014. I believe her back injury also prevented her from being able to perform the Biellmann, which was one of the requirements for a level 4 spin at the time. I have not been able to find a source for the I-spin so far; I don't think it is as famous as her other signature moves anyway so we can just remove that if we don't find anything. I did find a few sources for the layback Ina Bauer, though they don't mention the difficulty. This source discusses her replacing the triple loop with the layback Ina Bauer into 2A and mentions that she has been praised by commentators for her excellent edge control. This article has a quote from Shizuka Arakawa where she praises the speed and distance Yuna achieves. This source says that the layback Ina Bauer has become so associated with Yuna it has been nicknamed the "Yuna Bauer". Artemisia (talk) 17:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh wow, thanks! I'll add that in, and hopefully I'll get it to the proof-reading stage by the end of the week. Editor120918756 (talk) 17:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
 * “믿을 수 없다. 스케이트 날이 엇갈려 활주하는 상황에서 경이적인 속도와 저런 비거리가 나올 수 있을까”라고 극찬한 바 있다.
 * Can you translate this? The google translation seems to indicates something about difficulty in it. Editor120918756 (talk) 11:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about the exact translation but I can ask at WP:KO. Artemisia (talk) 13:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. BTW, how do you do references? I just got dinged by a reviewer on a different article, saying that ones on there are inconsistent, maybe because I do them by hand. Since we are working on a GA article, we should keep ours consistent. I'm pinging her here, in case she has suggestions. Editor120918756 (talk) 14:46, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I use the Citation Style 1 templates to format references (usually cite web). It's helpful to include as much information as possible, such as author(s), date, access date etc. I also use this tool to archive everything quickly. I am planning on going through the article and checking all the references before we submit it, so don't worry too much if you're unsure. Artemisia (talk) 18:22, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. BTW, no one's translated yet. I subscribed to that question, didn't get a notification. Editor120918756 (talk) 07:58, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

other sources
https://time.com/5141402/yuna-kim-olympics-2018/

https://web.archive.org/web/20121229121236/http://yunaforum.com/wiki/2009

Editor120918756 (talk) 19:53, 1 November 2022 (UTC)