User talk:Editor in Aus

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Editing with a possible paid conflict of interest
Hello Editor in Aus. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Editor in Aus. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. --SamHolt6 (talk) 07:10, 7 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello Editor in Aus, do you know "Con J. Kittos" personally or professionally? GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 12:47, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

I am nor personally or professionally associated with Con J. Kittos. It came to my attention that this page was under development and I thought it appropriate to correct the entry, remove excessive sales-type comments and to tell the truth of his company having been accused of fraud in the ParentsNext contract. Editor in Aus (talk) 06:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Where did you get File:Professional Photo of Con Kittos.jpg from? You uploaded this image as your own work on commons-wiki so, can you please shed some light on this? GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 06:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

He has used this photo on various platforms and forums over the years, including LinkedIn and Facebook. Editor in Aus (talk) 06:59, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I looked everywhere and wasn't able to find can you send the link? GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 07:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I found it from a news story on his company web site peopleplusaustralia.com.au in a news post. Also, try his Facebook page 'Con Kittos' and LinkedIn but I think in both those places you will need to connect as a friend Editor in Aus (talk) 21:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The facebook account is https://www.facebook.com/kittos if you ask to connect with him then you should be able to see all his posts and photos including where I copied this one from. LinkedIn is https://www.linkedin.com/in/kittos/ and the image is in one of his posts from the Company that he reposted there but I cannot locate that again now. There is another post on his company site that has the same picture and that is here https://blog.peopleplusaustralia.com.au/news/peopleplus-continues-to-deliver-strong-performance-with-5-star-jobactive-employment-services Editor in Aus (talk) 00:32, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Con J. Kittos (March 7)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SamHolt6 was:

The comment the reviewer left was:

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SamHolt6 (talk) 07:11, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Con J. Kittos (March 7)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GSS was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Con J. Kittos and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Con J. Kittos, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 07:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
A sockpuppet (WP:SPI) investigation concerning your account is underway at Sockpuppet investigations/Olivalenzuela. You are invited to participate. SamHolt6 (talk) 02:01, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

I am not a sockpuppet and am not receiving any payment or related to the subject matter. This page was brought to my attention and I thought it appropriate to correct the record. There are other related pages that I will also be making edits to after this comment. Editor in Aus (talk) 06:02, 8 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your speedy consideration. The Wikipedia Draft Article for Con J. Kittos was listed in a google search I have on this person and that google notification came to me on several occasions, that is how I become aware of it.Editor in Aus (talk) 10:56, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You will need to make another unblock request, to be reviewed by a heretofore uninvolved administrator. 331dot (talk) 11:36, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * "The Wikipedia Draft Article for Con J. Kittos was listed in a google search" (bolding added by me). Drafts don't get listed by search engines (see WP:Drafts), so it appears that you are trying to deceive us. Tknifton (talk) 20:06, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I received two google alerts for the name 'Con James Kittos' from Google alerts referencing a page in Wikipedia; the last being on the Feb 17 this year. The link is in fact still there and it points to a Spanish Version of a deleted Wikipedia page for Con James Kittos here] Editor in Aus (talk) 23:22, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Editor in Aus, I asked you to provide a link "to the image" that you uploaded as your own work, but you have not yet provided the link. I looked at his website, Facebook, LinkedIn etc. and still can't find it so, can you? GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 08:00, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The facebook account is https://www.facebook.com/kittos if you ask to connect with him then you should be able to see all his posts and photos including where I copied this one from. LinkedIn is https://www.linkedin.com/in/kittos/ and the image is in one of his posts from the Company that he reposted there but I cannot locate that again now. There is another post on his company site that has the same picture and that is here https://blog.peopleplusaustralia.com.au/news/peopleplus-continues-to-deliver-strong-performance-with-5-star-jobactive-employment-services Editor in Aus (talk) 00:32, 18 March 2020 (UTC)Editor in Aus (talk) 00:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * As per the archive version of the above link to blog.peopleplusaustralia.com.au the picture was not available when it was last archived on Feb 29, 2020, and then on March 15th it was archived again and there you can see the image. So, I have no idea whether it was uploaded before or after I asked you to provide a link. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 04:16, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I said right at the beginning of this thread and again that I took the image from his social media page. I did not take it from his website, I simply explained that the same image is on his website.Editor in Aus (talk) 04:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Further to my unblock request and the submissions I have made above I would like to ask that the block be again addressed.

1. The account "Editor in Aus" has only been used to modify the page created by Olivalenzuela Articles for creation: Con J. Kittos. This is entirely correct. Earlier in this block dialogue, I explained to GSS 💬 12:47, 7 March 2020 (UTC) that "It came to my attention that this page was under development and I thought it appropriate to correct the entry, remove excessive sales-type comments and to tell the truth of his company having been accused of fraud in the ParentsNext contract. Editor in Aus (talk) 06:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)". I created the account "Editor in Aus" so that I could not be identified by the original creator of the page.

2. The photo I posted was downloaded by me from his Facebook page. I note that this photo is also located in an article published on his company web site www.peopleplusaustralia.com.au as well as on his LinkedIn. @GSS asked where I got that photo from and I explained that I found it on his facebook page but also noted it was also posted in other sites. Despite my response to @GSS he refers to a search he did on Con Kittos' company site.

3. The suggestion that there is a possible paid conflict of interest is hard for me to disprove. However, the nature of my edits indicates that I have been more interested in correcting many of the inconsistencies and claims made by Olivaenzuela.

4. It might be useful for an Admin to request a checkuser so that the Admin could consider any technical evidence which might support or reject the assertion that my account is a sockpuppet.

5. @Tnifton asked how "The Wikipedia Draft Article for Con J. Kittos was listed in a google search" since drafts don't get listed by search engines and he concluded that it appears that I am trying to deceive the Admins. I explained to @Tknifton that I received two google alerts for the name 'Con James Kittos' from Google alerts referencing a page in Wikipedia; the last being on the Feb 17 2020. The link is in fact still there and it points to a Spanish Version of a deleted Wikipedia page for Con James Kittos here] Editor in Aus (talk) 23:22, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Thank you for taking the time to read my response and I trust that I have adequately provided evidence that I am not related I am not a sockpuppet of Olivaenzuela and that I have adequately answered the questions raised by the other admins. Editor in Aus (talk) 07:32, 28 March 2020 (UTC)