User talk:Editorofthewiki/Archive 6

Azerbaijan
Why didn't you ask anyone before moving all of those pages? Please justify mass moves before making them, please tell me why you did it. Thanks. --Golbez (talk) 00:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Mary Meader
This article is not quite ready for GA status. Comments left on talk page. ~ Me ldshal  42  02:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot approval
Way it is going? 50 people have shown their strong support. The bot has been approved. Some people may not like it but either way it will be done. We have to plant seeds for this site to grow so don't let this fracas bother you. I've devoted to much time to this already today, just continue, I'll try to do the same but it is a little off putting I agree. Remember though with Azerbaijan the provinces don't show up   ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 13:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

No, they have no idea what thousands of these places look like for sure. We've seen many settlements on google maps zooming in that look pretty much like towns to us right where we could probably have articles on places within these places right?? It is so ignorant to assume they are all hamlets of three people. Even more so for places in parts of Asia, Africa and Latin AMerica which are highly more populated than many of the places of the same size in Amerca or the UK. Its terribly narrow minded not consider that other countries could equally have a story to tell in the same way UK and AMerica has in detail. These are exactly the sort of people who try to shape wikipedia from theor world viewpoint rather than neutrally which an encyclopedia should  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 14:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

The only valid argument against I think is that we would be vastly increasing the proportion of stubs on wikipedia which some people think would "tarnish" its reputation in the media (as if it has a great one anyway) and that it increases the area in which vandals can operate undetected. Whether they are stubs or not, the fact is they referenced and consistent, something which wikipedia has never been able to achive in seven years. How many articles out of our current 2.4 million are completely unreferenced? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 14:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Probably ~400,000. Just click Special:Random a few times and you know what I mean. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 14:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Just a load of crap that even Afghani articles can't be expanded. See Kushgag. As more info becomes available over the web why is it impossible that this could be expanded greatly if info becomes avilable. It is just so ignorant to right off these places like that. Perhaps you could exmplain to our friend that he is mistaken and that actually they can be expanded even at present. As it is, do you think the encyclopedia is better for it or worse with it. Mmm. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 16:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Well on numerous occasions altiude has been proven way out. For instance several towns on the coast of Madagascar had a reading of 280 metres and two towns in Burma only 4 miles apart had readings severla thousand metres apart. I am all for adding as much as possible but when reliability is questionable its best to leave it out I think. Oh this huge discussion really shows what many people are like on this site, gladly I rarely have to face them as it would drive me over the moon. It is amazing how peoples views can vary so greatly isn't it. This is the huge flaw in wikipedia is trying to appease evenrybody  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't think offhand now, my mind is muddled with this ordeal, but there is an element of doubt over that site in general besides being made 12 years ago. I remain optimistc that a better site with official population for everywhere may become available but is pretty limited at present  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:14, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Dabbing articles in prep for bot creation
I don't know exactly what 'dabbing' is but I'll take a shot at it. --Samuel Pepys (talk) 19:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

re: the whole mess at the village pump
With respect, the "monument to ignorance" at the Bot discussion is, surely, the wider Wiki community reacting in concern. I understand that you have an ideal you want to build, but unless I am wide of the mark no one editor "owns" wiki, and no one editor should allow a Bot to build 2 million stubs (it is still 2 million, I know the article was moved to suit an argument, was it not?) without allowing other people to have their say.

Take a look at my record - I am no crank. I have been here a long time, and I love helping Wiki build in any way I can. But there are emotions involved, here. Nobody - you, me - wants to see Wiki fail. I just don't want some "wheeze" to ruin everything in the future. Sometimes the sky /is/ falling. doktorb wordsdeeds 20:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Tourism in Tunisia
I know the proof with Ashnam etc etc. Clearly the enclopedia is better having it that not. Hey I created 1972 Nicaragua earthquake earlier to take my mind off the village pump. I think I can develop it further still. If I could be assured a bot is running I can change to developing articles rather than spenidng all my time creating them  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I;ve just read this comment from somebody who opposed on a seperate page "I feel quite sure Wikipedia is now so developed that it might be too finished before reaching 20M articles". If only they knew....  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 20:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * A monument to ignorance... I actually feel sorry, if it is quite developed why do the continue to contribute? I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 20:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

There we go Lagarde, Ariège all those people who said none of the french article "will ever be expanded". Population 194. Now these people are shunning new referenced starter articles on places with thousands of people. Such a sin to not allow the encyclopedia time to flourish  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 20:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Lazare Ponticelli and WP:TFA/R
Per Today's featured article/requests, article candidates for WP:TFA are assigned a points rating, and noms can be bumped off the page by other noms with higher points. Sorry about that, but you can always try to keep a lookout for the next chance there is an open slot. Cirt (talk) 13:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU
Hello yet again. I regretfully inform you that the bot we were using to update the user status at Highly Active Users, SoxBot V, was blocked for its constant updating. With this bot out of operation, a patch is in the works. Until that patch is reviewed and accepted by the developers, some options have been presented to use as workarounds: 1) Qui monobook (not available in Internet Explorer); 2) User:Hersfold/StatusTemplate; 3) Manually updating User:StatusBot/Status/USERNAME; or 4) Not worry about it and wait for the patch to go through, which hopefully won't take long. If you have another method, you can use that, too. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Useight (talk) 17:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons
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Potential members of the new project
See Village pump (proposals)/FritzpollBot.

I've bought a 450 page book on Burkina Faso!! Bradt guides to Niger, Sudan, Benin, Ghana and Gabon are also available. See if you can buy one of the books off ebay or something and we can start contrubting some useful to the stubs or start a few. If you or EJF bought one of the books we'd be able to do stuff!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 17:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Where are you America or UK? Type in Bradt guide on ebay look in either auction but mostly buy it now from sellers. I spotted ones on Mali, Ghana, Gabon & Sao Tome, Cape Verde, Nigeria, Sudan etc earlier. They are recommended books by Michael Palin as they cover smaller places and topics. Some of them have near 500 pages. I;m going to try to get another one on Benin or Ghana. If we could get a book each between the thre eor four of us then we could work on a country each. There was of course a Lonely Planet Algeria, don't know if you have this or not   ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Did half of what? Did you check out the books? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 19:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Please use flag templates
Hi, I see that you create a large number of new pages with. I strongly encourage you to use the standard template for flag icons instead of hard-coding images. For example, instead of, you would use. There are several benefits of using flag templates: Please feel free to ask me any questions if you have any. Thank you. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) It ensures consistent image rendering across Wikipedia.
 * 2) It is simpler wikicode to read and write.
 * 3) It generates alt attribute text for screen readers, per Accessibility.
 * 4) It wraps the flag icon in a CSS class so that individual editors can control output from their own monobook.css preferences page.
 * Um, please? You've created several Burkina Faso stubs in the last hour and continue to use inline image code.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 00:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Copied from user talk:Andrwsc: Is Iit really much of a problem? I'll do it from now on, but I'm going to stop with Burkina today. Ok, thanks! I guess in the big scheme of things, it isn't disastrous, but just as we should use the correct citation templates etc. I think it's important to use the flag templates for all the benefits I listed above. It's even recommended in the Manual of Style: WP:MOSFLAG says Flag images should have alt text and/or captions for accessibility (the standardized flag icon templates do this automatically).  Thanks again, — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 02:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Article is good and clearly adequate, you know the coordinates? Just remember to use flag icons as that leaves the choice whether to have them or not in preferences. Somebody recently informed by of this too  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 10:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Playa Zancudo
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 * Ah everyone just loves those ugly maintenance templates when there are no other refs and being given templates messages that assume you're 2 days old. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Editor review
I was going to post this on your Editor Review page, but I realized that page is over 3 months old. Still, I based my review on your last couple thousand contribs, so hopefully this will still be helpful. (despite being worded a little strangely)

Random header for readability
Review by J.d ela  noy gabs adds

First, I have to say, I have not seen many people come to Wikipedia and plunge right in the way you did. It took me more than a year to get really involved. Excellent job diving in so quickly!

I also see a lot of stub creating and minor-to-major (I don't know what lies between those two) article work, which, IMHO, is A Good Thing™. However, it would probably be good to try to do some more in-depth article work as well. Getting involved in the GA and FA process would be good, and if you could get an article that you started to FA status, that would be excellent. (Of course, with the banner I have across the top of my userpage, I'm probably not the person to talk to you about "in-depth article work"...)

Although I hate to say this, because you have quite a bit of good article work, if you are planning on running for adminship, you should definitely get involved with more "admin-y" things. More AFD participation, vandalfighting and some newpage patrolling would do a lot to build up your experience with admin activities. Also, a good way to learn more about admin stuff is to watchlist WP:AN and WP:ANI. Comment on threads where you think your input would be helpful, and even if you rarely comment, just reading the threads and following the discussion surrounding various issues will help you to better understand the things admins have to deal with. With this knowledge, you will be much better prepared when you stand for RFA.

You stated that one of the main reasons you wanted to get reviewed is because you were seriously thinking about RFA. Honestly, based on my experience watching various RFAs, I do not think you would be able to pass at this point. I personally would most likely (weakly) support you, but you would get a lot of

"Oppose - Too little experience in admin areas. Example (talk) 00:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)"

If you haven't already, you should look at some recent passed and failed RFAs. See why they failed or passed, and ask yourself how you resemble the candidates.

To conclude, you are an excellent contributer, you just need to gain more experience in admin areas, and maybe try to get a GA or an FA under your belt. J.d ela noy gabs adds  17:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know how you feel, and I agree that contribs to ANI and AIV should not be as "important" as they often become in RFAs. I was not aware that you had any FAs or GAs, because I didn't look really deep. Either way, I do not think you should stop writing encyclopedia articles, its just that I know that it will be difficult for you to pass an RFA without AIV and ANI stuff. J.d ela  noy gabs adds  19:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * AWESOME!!! Like I said, I was too stupid to really pay attention to your contribs. Keep up the good work! J.d ela  noy gabs adds  00:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

1992 Earthquake
Sorry for tagging your article too fast. Can you fix the part where it says a 1992 earthquake occurred in 1994? --Blanchardb- Me • MyEars • MyMouth -timed 10:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. :) I'm glad you think so. As I say I am really sorry; I've been accused of being too lenient before. Gone rouge... But seriously, I appreciate your confidence, and the article looks excellent now. A bit more work and it'll be DYK quality. If you need any articles blatantly unfairly deleted looked over, don't hesitate to let me know! :) PeterSymonds (talk)  20:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Earthquake
Heh, good, undeleted. I didn't realise you were the author. It looked fishy because of the dates (1992 and 1994, and the lack of any other content). Nothing personal. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk)  10:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA
Hello, Editorofthewiki, and thank you for your recent participation in my RfA, which was closed per WP:NOTNOW after reaching a vote tally of 5/15/2. While I am disappointed in the outcome, I understand that it - as well as the comments left by yourself and others - was in the best interests of Wikipedia at this time. I plan to take everything that was written to heart and improve myself here on Wikipedia with a goal of perhaps accepting a nomination again in the future, should someone choose to nominate me. As a way of gathering further feedback, I have created a page in my user space for other editors to leave comments about things that they might have observed during my RfA and to continue my "education process," as it may be considered. If you would like to contribute to that page, it may be found here. Again, thank you for participating and I appreciate your comments! --InDeBiz1 (talk) 18:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Stubs
Could you place a stub marker on the short geo-articles you are creating, such as Bogonam? This would make sorting the articles much easier. Thanks--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 14:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Your comment at my RFB
You said, "I would support, but your attitude as an contributor, with IMO not enough contributions in the mainspace for your time at wikipedia, and as a coach and RFA voter, of which some of my views differ." I was hoping to get some more clarification on your comment as I'm always willing to improve. Your part about me not having enough mainspace edits, okay, clear enough (but I would like to mention that if you divide my total mainspace (6829 by the number of months I've been actively editing, 13, you get 525, which isn't horrible). Anyway, that wasn't my point. I was actually hoping for some more details on the other part of sentence quoted above. What is it, exactly, that you don't like about my coaching and RFA voting? If I'm doing something way off base, I'd certainly like to know so I can improve upon it. Thanks. Useight (talk) 01:26, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

1992 Nicaragua earthquake
I have picked up the GA review of this article and left comments at the talk page. Please visit and follow my suggestions. By the way, i consider at least 15 references enough for a good article. Just for future reference. Thanks, ~ Me ldshal  42  20:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Earthquakes
Would you be willing to join this project? I started it a couple of weeks ago, and since you have worked on 19992 Nicaragua earthquake, I wanted you to join. ~ Me ldshal  42  20:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

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GAs
Ah it will be over in two weeks or three weeks, I'll have to try to get as much done in the middle of the day as I can before my eyes start pouring waterfalls again! Wow thats amazing. A GA already? And in following with my 1931 and 1972 articles. I see you;ve been busy with the tourism series too. We could probably develop 1972 into a GA too with some extra work. Too much of the 1972 article relies on one source which should be avoided I think. You should find some PD images of it. I would suggest an earthquake series for each of the countries in Central America such as Template:Earthquakes in Nicaragua, Template:Earthquakes in El Salvador etc and connect the articles together and also add red links for earlier earthquakes. I remember that Guatemala and El Salvador have several hundred articles that could be written, there is a google book on it of about 800 pages. Keep up the good work  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 17:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:Earthquakes I'm pleased to hear about, too much emphasis I think is given to hurricanes. Central America is definately a weak point of wikipedia all over. I've added an image to Otto Soemarwoto. Good stuff! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 17:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes information is gradually beocming available online from such places, this is why I am optimistic that eventually we'll be laughing at the people who didn't want "non notable" articles on places around the world when we know eventually a great deal could be written on them. If you are interested in working on earthquakes amidst Burkina here is a directory of notable earthquakes. Could prove very useful fgiven that the site also has PD images of some of them,  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 17:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes i know. One thing though I'm not sure about using (number 2) in a title though. Perhaps it could be worked out what the nearest settlement and change it e.g Biolo (5km north of Douasse). Also I think the population figure is 2005 rather than 1996. I checked it out once and it read as 2005. Some readings are very confusing in that data which is supposed to be 2005 shows a marked pop growth from another reading which is supposed to be 2005 and I did find something which suggested one is 1996. But given the current link you are using I'd keep it as 2005. Regards  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes thats fine I think. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 18:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Going well I've added more red links and fixed dabbing. One thing though can you start using pushpin_mapsize=300 in the infoboxes like Daribiti (13°26′N 1°45′W). It makes a difference to the map detail with a little boost, cheers  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Also Alamini. Is it 704 or 204 the population? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 19:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 704. I mistyped. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 19:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Remember to start using
 * pushpin_mapsize=300

though  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 20:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you disagree with me?? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 20:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No worries just copy the parameter I gave you it should work. I've nearly finished adding to Template:Banwa. I'll have to leave in about ten minutes though as its been getting bad again last half hour. I'll try and return mid day tomorrow  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 20:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Library of Congress
Can't believe we are still missing articles like this. I have a book on Seychelles so I'll try to expand a few, the Wildlife article in particular I have a fair bit to add. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 20:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes OK, I've noticed some confusing branches of places too and incorrect commune structures etc. I;ve been looking about, I;ve found a Benin government site for statistscs of communes but it is not that easy to follow. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 10:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm having server difficulties today. My computer is very noisy as if it is suffering from a virus, I;ve just started Institut National de la Statistique Benin and the external site is linked. I found it via city population.de which lists the population of the main cities and towns of all countries. This should be used initially to get articles on the main cities or communes by country at least with a population figure and reference  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 11:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I;ve found a statistics site for Niger too here and Ivory Coast. Googling in French brings up some surprising results  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 11:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I've been drawing up a full list of official statistical sites by country at List of national and international statistical services. Then this can be copied to the new project. Sound good? What I also want is to create an extra column in the project space for the email addresses of these countries and sites so we can request a brochure of population statistics and other data that they have on a personal. I believe as the project is set up we need to email each of the countries to maximise our chances of obtaining the data   ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 13:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK nom of Iran-Cuba relations
Hi - there are a few issues with this article and its DYK nom which you may want to examine and address. Some problems with the article are likely shortness of length and that the main source is the Islamic Republic News Agency, which is a mouthpiece of the Iranian government and thus not really WP:NPOV or without WP:COI. Please comment at the nomination on T:TDYK. Thanks, Vishnava  talk  16:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I still think that a hook cited via IRNA is a problem - if you have the original BBC report, then you should just use that one. I've given what I think is a better suggestion - check if its ok: using the Christian Science Monitor-sourced data:

... that Iran-Cuba relations have grown stronger under the rule of the President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? Vishnava  talk  17:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Tourism in Africa
Hi, I noticed from the new bluelinks on Tourism in Africa that you have been creating articles about tourism in African countries lately. I've been working articles in this area too (great minds think alike :p) and I was wondering if you have any more of the "tourism in country X" articles researched/prepared for Wikipedia that you haven't yet posted? If you do, I can skip over the countries you have done and tackle some of the other missing ones. All the best, Bláthnaid  18:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool. I work differently, and research and write quite a lot before I post anything on Wikipedia, so I thought I'd check with you in case you do the same. I try to do a bit towards countering Wikipedia's systemic bias, but my effort is very small compared to yours! Bláthnaid  19:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I noticed User:Blofeld of SPECTRE's name on Special:Newpages back when all the French location articles were being created (his name is kinda conspicuous!). That's an almost inhuman--and very commendable--amount of work. Bláthnaid  16:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. When you add the names to the nav boxes can you make sure that they are listed along the lines rather than in a column. Otherwise it affects the line coordination. Good work on those earthquake article BTW. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 18:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

See Nassere here. Note that the Nassere links are not organized like the others. The links should be going across the page rather than in a vertical list -it upsets the balance  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:18, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB
Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Earthquake-related article
Hello, Editorofthewiki. I noticed when I was reviewing DYK noms at Template talk:DYK that you've created some earthquake related articles. Do you think you can help me expand Coalinga, California earthquake? You seems to be expereinced in that area. I'm planning to nominate this one for DYK also. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk ) 05:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Thanks. I'm trying to spread my contributing to various places, other than baseball as my adopter recommended. Nice to hear that you'll help with the article. We've got 5 days to do what we can. I'll be a little busy with this so I'll help a bit later. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk ) 09:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I quick search around google doesn't show a big story to tell. I just plan to make this at least a DYK. An image would be nice, but that should be at the end. --RyRy5 (talk ) 10:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't notice. Scratch that. I'm not very good at images, so I can't be of help to you in that area. Trust me, I'm just horrible with images. -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 10:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and do you think it is ready for DYL nom? If so, what hook should be used (there's a lot of different hooks to choose from). -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 19:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Your welcome. Well, I'll see how it goes, considering that I commonly review DYK noms. I'll alert you if anything that needs attention to the hook/article comes up, if you want of course. -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy5 (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 19:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

New project to coordinate GEOBOT proposed at WP:Councils
WikiProject Council/Proposals has been formally requested. Please feel free to add further comment. The sooner we get an official framework to coordinate established the sooner the bot can start work! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 19:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hell's Gate National Park
I would be glad to help. i have left some initial comments on the article's talk page. Thanks. ~ Me ldshal  42  20:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I was waiting for you to leave messages at the talk page. ~ Me ldshal  42  19:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

6/14 DYK

 * Hi - Bedford mistakenly dropped it off on my talkpage. All the best, <font face="Verdana"><font color="Red">Vishnava <font color="Black"> talk  03:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * We have some people who are sloppy when putting things on the next update, and don't pay attention or follow the correct updating. I apologize for the error.  Whoever placed your entry for next update didn't pay attention.-- Bedford  <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  03:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Question
Hello. I've seen you also started articles from the Tourism in ... series. I recently blocked a disruptive editor who've been deliberately avoiding discussion and warred here. Continent specific templates are created, like, similar to other ones as or. I see no point in having a huge Tourism template, including links to tourism articles of about 200 countries plus other toursim topics articles. I think we should use only "Tourism in ..." specific templates. What do you think about it? Congrats to your barnstar by the way and very good Africa new articles. Thanks for them. - Darwinek (talk) 11:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That disruptive editor promised he will again re-add all these countries to the main template and the main template to specific country articles after his block will expire. Hope I can count on you if other non-involved editors would be interested about this situation. I am afraid he will present it as a two-men dispute. I am sure vast majority of users share our view of the use of this template. - Darwinek (talk) 17:08, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

1556 Shaanxi earthquake
Could you please nominate this article at GAN? I will review it, of course. ~ Me ldshal  42  11:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:) LOL
No, I just wasn't paying as close attention as I should have been and rolled to the wrong edit. Another editor was able to revert it before I could correct myself. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 03:10, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hi editor don't worry about editing all the countries. It gives me a headache too to think how much needs doing for so many countries. If you continue with your work on Burkina as this week, I'll be more than pleased. Ideally I;d like to get the same process going for the other countries but we need more editors! and can't write the entire African encyclopedia between us!! If there are people willing to work in a given area, I do think though that they can be encouraged to develop it in their own right. Sheeks you seem to have gone earthquake mad! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 09:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I've nominated Inhambane for a DYK. I'm pleasantly surprised I managed to find some info on it. If we could get every city and town in Africa beyond a stub things would develop massively. Some day much of the content will have been started and we can concentrate on writing the articles all the time rather than spending most of our time stubbing!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 12:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you add the settlments to Template:Boulgou -you may need to start again to ensure all the settlments are added. ONce thats done we can work through it together. Sound good? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 11:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well it is probably best we ensure all the african towns have infoboxes and maps first before adding new content anyway, particularly as cities ar emissing infoboxes for many parts. If you could go through Chad I'll do Guinea now  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 11:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey if you want to be an "editor of the wiki" this requires stamina!! Just kidding. I'm having some lunch now, I'm half way through Guinea, I had intended on starting on Chad afterwards. If I add the infoboxes and map can you add the population from world gazetteer or statoids and reference it? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 13:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I couldn't edit without eating first, I wouldn't have any energy either. When I eat my brain suddenly comes to life. I don't smoke, and I don't drink much, I find plenty of ice cold water, chocolate and coffee more rewarding. Thats my trick  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 13:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I finished Guinea and finished up to Bousso where you left off. I'm curious as to why you can't concentrate for long on one task? Are you worried about something? Aren't you feeling relaxed? I'm going to complete Chad now, I always think of it the sooner it is done the sooner I can have a long break, knowing it is one less thing out of the way. Please can you help add the population in the article and infobox when you are ready. Thanks  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 14:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I can't concentrate on a monotonous task for two long either it isn't my idea of fun but it needs doing, thats why I work all across wikipedia and work on something that I feel like. One minute I'll have the energy to go through a whole category adding infoboxes, another time I'll just feel like taking it easy or writing an article like earthquakes etc. I think it is good to mix it up so long as things do get done soon enough. As long as you make a note that is needs doing gradually no probs. Thanks for your help. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 14:33, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thats Guinea and Chad nailed in one day! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 15:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

There isn't anything particularly wrong with it as such, they look better than most of the other set maps I;ve seen but they were created long before the pin maps began appearing in Africa. I have removed most of the old set poin maps from most of the African countries, Not all the Malawi articles have them so if we kept the old ones it would be inconsistent.

P.S. why don't you make full use of the space on your talk page, every time I message you I keep searching for an edit section and there isn't one  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Good going with the Malawi population, if possible though can you try to have the demographic section as near to the top as possible. Cheers  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow the Mulanje one looks good. Thats what I want is to have an article on every place and have images which show these places as they really are and a full article. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 19:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Am Dam

 * 1) In this edit,, you say "remove misleading information" in your edit summary. Now, as near as I can tell, the information you removed says that the population of the Sub-prefecture is 77,593, so why is it misleading? Is the source not reliable? (I admit that the link didn't work, but do you think the number is wrong?) Phlegm Rooster (talk) 15:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Karanacs RFA
Re. this response, I'd already suggested that Tan39 remove his or her comment. If he or she does so (as I hope), I hope also that you can remove your response, though I understand completely why you made it. I would like us not to get distracted at this RfA. Many thanks, and again also thanks for your participation. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 21:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ignoring for the moment my stance on this, I would be okay with a mutual agreement to remove my comment (along with EotW's response). <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">Tan  |  <font color="#21421E" face="Papyrus">39  21:09, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be fantastic, and a really great show by both of you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs)

Queen of Bollywood
Hi. I have revamped the article, and I think it's now a credible stub. Please take another look at the article, and see if your opinion has changed. Best,-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 21:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

For all your efforts on the encyclopaedia
I know your collection is mounting up but still, you've earned this: Simply to say, some of us know what your "priorities here at Wikipedia" are, despite what the ignorant may think. You are a credit to the encyclopaedia. Best regards, EJF (talk) 22:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC) PS To you and Blofeld: I should be editing again regularly on Friday - I have very little time at the moment.

"The judgement to be an admin"
Just a heads-up that I am supporting you in the opposition to that admin candidate who addressed you in such a sour manner. I would be furious if anyone spoke to me in that manner, and considering your work on Wikipedia I am shocked that you were addressed with such rudeness. Keep up the good work! Ecoleetage (talk) 03:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sorry that I annoyed you in voicing support for your position in the RfA hue and cry. Obviously, my input is not required. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I was born in Mozambique to Portuguese parents, but I grew up in Lisbon. I don't live in Africa. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I was born in Maputo. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: An award
(copied over from my talk page:) Very kind. Thanks so much. I do think it's unfortunate when RfAs get off track, and particularly when people who oppose become the subject of critical discussion, rather than the candidate him- or herself.

More generally, I think people should be allowed to make mistakes. The wiki is funny in that way: on the one hand, it really doesn't matter what kind of mess you make, because the glory of the set-up is that someone can come by and fix it; on the other hand, it keeps this record of just about every keystroke you've ever made.

And when you (we, anyone) make a mistake, I think it's fine and proper for someone to call you on it. But, so long as you learn, and we're all learning, and show good faith, those mistakes shouldn't have to come back and haunt you. And yet at RfA, in particular, they often do. And what's worse is when !voters have their activities scrutinized, as well as candidates!

Sometimes I think that as a result there are some editors who are scared to make mistakes, especially if they are considering running for adminship at some point. That's a pity. I like editors who aren't afraid to speak their mind, so long of course as they are also prepared to listen to others.

This is, incidentally, one of the reasons I like Karanacs: she doesn't shy away from the difficult situations, and generally she handles them very well indeed. I don't run into you so often, but I can believe that you act similarly in the parts of the encyclopedia in which you're active. I hope so, at least.

Anyhow, sorry for all this rambling on. Thanks again for the award. I hope that the discussion dies down about your ANI thread (which as I said, I think was just fine, even though I disagreed with you). All the best. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 22:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: African elections and places
Hi. To answer your question regarding why I stopped creating articles on African elections and places – It was no reason in particular. I just started working on other things, but am still open to editing Africa-related pages if needed. Thanks. --Acntx (talk) 12:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd noticed that already when I went to propose an article at DYK. You shoudl put the picture of the beach in the article!! Good work! I started Minkébé National Park and stubbed the other Gabonese parks this morning and several others to fill in red links such as CARPE and expanded Lobi too! One of my aims now is to get the national parks of africa up to B class. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 16:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Have a read of my new Guinean town article Tondon. Fascinating story but rather sad. This is exactly the sort of content that is missing in the thousands  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

What would you say to drawing up a core list of African cities and towns using world gazetteer and tryong to get each one beyond a stub class? I don't think a one liner on a city with 200,00 is acceptable do you? At least if the main African cities are beyond a one liner its not as bad as before. I don't know about you but with the maps and population already its beginning to take shape. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 19:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Could you try to expand XAI-Xai using these sources here and here. The latter one I think is Botswana so might not apply. Its always good to google book search places. Make notes on paper if necessray and try to write it in. Thanks   ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I see on looking at it. There is a site called www.questia.com where you can read all of the books, an online library but you have to subscribe. If the wiki sorted out a free library rather than the crappy wiki books thing we'd be able to survey books to write the encyclopedia. I think I'll have browse through this and see if I can find any free online libraries with decent info. My library has been shut for over a year ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 22:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Victor Munyaka is on the phone - he demands a rewrite
Hey, I am doing New Page Patrol and I see your Kenyan articles coming in. Keep up the fine work -- you are making Wikipedia a better place! Ecoleetage (talk) 20:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Efiting location names on pages recently edited by Tonkie67
Hi. I see you corrected several locations that I had added to pages related to Airports. I was aware of the concensus on writing locations (places + countries) but as I was editing Dutch and English pages at the same time I mixed the way we tend to write names and locations. Tks for correcting, --JanT (talk) 05:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Farris and CSD
For the record, I believe that my AfD nomination of Farris (mineral water) is justified because the original article reads like an advertisement. Whether the AfD process will support my justification remains to be seen, and I will respect the final view (although the Norwegian delegation seems to be packing the discussion). On the CSD front, your comment that need to be "more conservative" doesn't seem to be in sync with the fact that the overwhelming number of articles that I have tagged for CSD have gone straight to erasure. I have yet to receive a "thank you" from anyone for that work, but on the fairly rare occasion that a choice is turned down I inevitably get some comment telling me that I need to "slow down." More often than not, those articles get erased when I present them in the AfD process, which confirms my instinct that the articles didn't belong in the first place. Ecoleetage (talk) 11:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I was offline for a bit, just came back, saw the extensive rewrite and withdrew the nomination in view of its new and much improved state. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating geo lists
Hi I've made an intital suggestion at the GEOBOT talk page in that it would be an excellent idea to generate a full lists of places in a tabled list. Once this is accomplished we can work through what articles could be started in their own right if there is enough info avilabale. I see it as a solid comprehensive base to build geo content on if we have a full world list organized like this. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot. Please offer your thoughts thanks  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Believe me I'd rather have a full article on everywhere but the problem is that if I create several thousand stubs like Alenane and blue link that template the articles will generaly remain untouched for months, years most likely. Its kind of a dilemma knowing that so much is missing and that drawing a line between generating a great deal of effort into creating sub stubs, and the level of quality that is expected for them. Either way I don't think its accpetable for the encyclopedia to ignore vast areas of the planet like so but I also don't think it is acceptable to have thousands of one liners with basically nothing other than location. Its kind of a mixture of quantity and quality which I want to see but its difficult to have both with so few editors working on them. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 17:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

re: Hell's Gate
I have not been "claiming" anything regarding you at the MFD, whether directly or indirectly. I made a broad statement about recent suspect happenings at GAC, which certainly covers a large base, so I do not see how you can assume that I was referring to you unless you're reading into things. Obviously I do not agree that the Hell's Gate article fulfills the GA-requirements, but you're not responsible for it having been erroneously passed. No reason to be paranoid. María ( habla con migo ) 14:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Ryan Murphy (Politician)
I am interested to know why you think that a politician running for a seat on the Queensland Legislative Assembly is running for "an unimportant position"? It even says in the article that it's the position held by the Deputy Premier, which is quite an important office.

I agree that you were correct in calling for deletion (no refs, and crystal ballery), but it looks an awful lot like a drive-by AfD vote without a lot of thought behind it. Lankiveil (speak to me) 05:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC).

Featured list candidates/List of heads of state of Gabon/archive1
I'm sure Scorpion will get back to you about this but I'd like to add my support to his archival of the FLC. You had one support and one oppose, and frankly there are still some issues with the list, such as: So I think there's still some work to be done before it exemplifies "Wikipedia's finest work." The Rambling Man (talk) 14:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Bold links in the lead - this contravenes the WP:MOS.
 * No explanation of what the political party acronyms are.
 * "Prime Minister from 1957&ndash1961." needs a semi-colon.
 * As does " 1961&ndash1963."
 * Ref 1 has p. 24, ref 2 just say 19
 * The lead is talking about presidents but you said M'ba served as Prime Minister until 1961 - did he become a President at all?
 * "This consisted of..." the "this" here logically would refer to the coup - obviously it should refer to the committee so it needs clearing up - and what is the significance of the guys? They're all red-linked right now...

2002 Iran earthquake
I have put the article on hold. And i promise you, this time, my review is more like it used to be, very in-depth. Meldshal42  (talk)  15:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Xai-Xai DYK nom
Hi - there appears to be some issue with this nomination - please have a look. <font face="Verdana"><font color="Red">Vishnava <font color="Black"> talk  16:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I got a bit distracted, just came here to let you know but I was beaten to it :). Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp  16:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Deux Balés National Park
Hi - there is also an issue with the DYK nom of Deux Balés National Park. Please have a look, 17:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Deux Balés National Park
You created an article about Deux Balés National Park, and linked its location to a reference, as west of the Black Volta in Black Volta Province, however, you marked the location in Benin on the wrong side of the divide, at the most it could possibly be in far eastern Est, which is on the wrong side of Burkina Faso. Please be more careful. There is a Wiki project Africa and possibly somewhere there could have helped with the location, however, the Black Volta is on Wikipedia, and easy to find on maps on line. --Blechnic (talk) 02:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio - Beth Wambui Mugo
Any reason for this copied directly from here? --Stephen 07:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, EOTW, there is a discussion about the Beth Wambui Mugo article copyvio here. Bebestbe (talk) 21:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, Section 25.(4) of the Kenya Copyright act applies to copyright works in Government and Section 45 addresses works in the Public Domain. Bebestbe (talk) 21:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * When a web page says (c) Office of Public Communications, 2008 it's best not to make any assuptions about public domain. Do you have any other instances where you have copied from a web page wholesale? --Stephen 23:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi Editorofthewiki. Thank you for your comments on my talk page. I am really sorry that the discussion at my RfA occasionally degenerated into a focus on you–that was unfair of those who were posting. I had hoped that by staying out of that discussion it would die down but that backfired a bit and I think I waited too long to try to stop it. I wanted to post here earlier, but I waited because I didn't want you to think I was doing so only because people were watching during the RfA. I don't know if I've ever stated it clearly, but I really do think that you provide value to the encyclopedia; it is a big deal for a relatively new editor to get their first FAC nomination promoted. You should be proud of that accomplishment, and while I wish that you'd chosen a little different way to express that pride originally, I also wish that I had moderated my response a bit. Even though I don't believe I violated any policies, you are right that my words were probably too strong for the occasion. I promise that I will keep your comments in mind in my future interactions. I hope to see you at FAC again soon! Karanacs (talk) 13:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Malawi and Mozambique
Excellent. I know did you see how many references there were too!. At present I'm still not sure if the best way forward would be to stub all places. WHile I think lists would be needed anyway, even stub articles with a locator map and location is encyclopedic and every new stub is towards filling everything in. I;m kind of in two minds as to whether to just expand the main cities, or to fill in places in thousands of square miles that are missing, or to do both. Its kind of the quality vs quantity thing and it isn't easy to settle for one, ideally we want both! I thought you might have been on holiday, good to hear from you and keep up the good work. You may be interested in the Coffee production in Costa Rica series I have started. I;ve red linked the others in the template. There are also ones like Banana production in Honduras, Tea production in Bangladesh etc missing. You'd be surprised how encyclopedic such articles can be! An encyclopedia such as wikipedia should have case studies on important industries in each country, others include Sugar production in ... etc.  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 15:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC) COuld you see if you can expand Ancuabe. Cheers  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 15:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Economy -cool. Its a pity there isn't more available. I wonder how long it will be before such places have their own websites. I came across several Somalian websites the other day on towns. Somalia is probably one of the poorest countries in the world. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:32, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

RE:2002 iran earthquake
I'm starting to become a regular editor to this page, and I'm the reviewer! 32 edits already! :) -- Meldshal42  (talk)  20:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Hello! I believe the good people at the DYK department are aware of whether or not an article meets the requirements for citation. Suggesting that Yared did not deserve the honour is a bit tactless, I believe. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:15, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact remains that it was honoured and I am grateful for the DYK team's consideration of this article. I don't give backhanded compliments and I prefer not to receive them. Please do not continue this conversation. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

2002 Bou'In-Zahra earthquake
I just wanted to let you know the article is really good. However, there just seems to be something wrong...

And regarding that ref... It was not visible for me unless membership was made. I don't think that makes it very reliable :(

Anyway, I asked Nikki311 to take a look at the article for me. Just to make sure it was good enough before GA. Thanks, -- Meldshal42  (talk)  01:24, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright. You can keep it.  By the way, that article was B-class. Thanks, -- Meldshal42   (talk)  01:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Trouble
I had slow access getting it earlier too. EJF is on holiday for a week or two. I don't know why it was slow either. My computer has also been slow of late  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Bendogo
Hi - I think I've finally worked out what you wanted, and I've moved the dabbed page to Bendogo over the redirect. Are we done?! Regards, BencherliteTalk 17:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I have serious doubts about fallingrain. Here the estimated population is 9,000 in a 7km radius. Absolute tosh. 40,000 is the current population. Even for some of the Mozambique places the altitude on some places on the coast has ready as 100 m. Perhaps that site should be blacklisted  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 12:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)