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Nomination of University of Hell Press for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article University of Hell Press is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/University of Hell Press until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tyros1972 Talk 02:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

University of Hell Press
Hi Editress13, and welcome to Wikipedia. Before creating an article, you should have a quick read of some of Wikipedia's introductory guidelines and some of the basic rules relating to notability, verifiability and reliable sources. Now that you have created an article, and it has been nominated for deletion, you should still have a read of those guidelines and see if you can improve the article so that it meets them.

You're also welcome to make a policy-based case for keeping the article at Articles for deletion/University of Hell Press. Stalwart 111  03:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of University of Hell Press


A tag has been placed on University of Hell Press, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an acceptable page. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this page is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit |the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You are welcome to edit the page to fix this problem, but please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. As well as removing promotional phrasing, it helps to add factual encyclopaedic information to the page, and add citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the page will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Find More Sources
The biggest "hump" you have to get over is your article is it only cites a single source, the main website. Are there any other reliable sites that mention this company? In order to be notable for Wiki you need to have more then just simply a single web source or user blogs etc. We know this website and publisher exists, but we don't know if anyone else does? If that's the case then this is written for advertising & promotion which violates wiki see WP:NOTADVERTISING. To save the article find some external sources, that are in line with wiki reliable sources. Tyros1972 Talk 05:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

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University of Hell Press
You need to take a step back and have a look at why this article keeps getting deleted. Please have a read of WP:PROMO and WP:COI before trying to recreate it again. Then I would suggest you go through the normal WP:DRV process for having previously deleted articles recreated. Stalwart 111  04:15, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of University of Hell Press for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article University of Hell Press is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/University of Hell Press & until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Stalwart 111  05:55, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse!
I, and the rest of the hosts, would be more than happy to answer any questions you have! SarahStierch (talk) 15:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

About Hell Press
Hi there. I saw your message on Facebook and wanted to let you know a bit about why it was nominated for deletion. I really really hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, I can't not be honest of course! So here is why there are concerns:
 * 1) All Wikipedia articles have to pass a general notability guideline to be included on Wikipedia. Here is the link about that: WP:GNG. I am a bit unclear on if Hell Press is considered an academic journal. If so, we have notability guidelines for those here: Notability (academic journals). Here is why the sources you used do not help to establish notability:
 * these are a mix of event listings and publishing notes. all of these websites seem to be associated with the press in some way, thus making them primary sources and not secondary reliable sources.
 * First, this is hosted by Blogspot, which is always a red flag for editors. It's generally a sign of a non-significant or notable publication. However, if you had more interviews about Hell Press then these could *maybE* establish notability.
 * event listings are mere mentions, thus they do not establish notability under the "significant coverage" section of the general notability guideline. For example, musicians and bands can't use event listings to establish notability.
 * exhibiting at festivals aren't establishers of notabilities.
 * non notable blogs are generally considered unreliable. It's a self published source, which is frowned upon. You can read about why Wikipedia rarely uses them here: BLOGS.

I hope you can forgive my bluntness! I want you to stick around and edit, and not let this get you down, I just think it's best to step away and edit else where. For example, I have my Master's in Museum Studies and my undergrad in Native American studies. I've had to step back and stop editing articles about contemporary Native American artists because it often leads to me getting super stressed when I'm challenged or my articles get messed with. So now I write biographies about people I don't know anything about. Ha! But, I hope this helps some in understanding the crazy place that Wikipedia is. Thank you for your contributions and I hope you'll consider contributing in other areas. SarahStierch (talk) 15:43, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Again, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but, until UHP has established itself and received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources - think, major publications and newspapers/magazines, other major journals, or it's considered a major game changer in the world of poetry and is being lauded in poetry circles on important websites and journals related to the poetry scene, etc. - it might be WP:TOOSOON for this press to have it's own Wikipedia page.
 * 2) On the even more depressing side - repeated creation of this subject will mean that the Wikipedia page for it will be salted after this deletion discuss - meaning it won't be able to be recreated for at least a year. Also, if you do have any association with the press, you could be blocked for repeated promotional creation of it, which is not pleasant to think about. You can read about conflict of interest and why Wikipedia really dislikes it, here: WP:COI. So, I'd focus on editing in other areas and work helping University of Hell Press promote themselves to secondary reliable sources.

Other stuff exists
Oh, and here's an essay that's good to read: Other stuff exists. People often say "but other articles exist like mine!" and Wikipedians basically ignore that. Or they go hunt down those articles and then nominate them for deletion or mess with them. It's sort of crazy. So..sit back, be patient, and perhaps in a year or so the press can have it's own Wikipedia page. SarahStierch (talk) 15:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes agreed with SarahStierch on this. You seem like a nice guy and I am not trying to get your article deleted because I have anything against you or your company. I know how it is to for a small start-up to want to get into wiki, I have many myself and they are not in wiki, as it indeed can be "promotion" BUT that is not what Wiki is about. Unfortunately you have to get the promotion and advertising through other means, YouTube, GoogleADs etc. and once you are established then you can be notable for wiki. Good luck and don't give up. Tyros1972 Talk 07:08, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Tyros1972 and SarahStietch, for your valuable feedback and positive attitudes. I appreciate that you recognize my honest efforts; some other comments I've received have been less gracious.  I am very grateful for your kindness to this newbie (for the record, Tyros1972, I'm a girl)!  I have endeavored to edit the existing article to meet Wiki standards; now, we wait.  Thanks again!!Editress13 (talk) 12:17, 6 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I am sorry about that Editress13, but the title sounds like a guy thing (Hell and all) I should have just said "person" but you seem like a nice Girl now that we know! For your information I want you to know on the AfD since your page has been recreated a member has asked for that the article be salted. If it is you will not be able to recreate it again, this is a practice for common SPAMMERS and I do not believe it is necessary for you. I explained the process to you which you can read up on and I have posted in the comments a No SALT do this discussion. Tyros1972 Talk 13:15, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:University of Hell Press logo.jpg)
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