User talk:Eduardopascal

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September 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Wikipedia pages. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello Binksternet

Don't you think that wikipedia should give the information about the only tango label in the world on the page about Tango Music ? Or do you condider the tango to be a dead musical style ? I don't consider wikipedia as a soapbox, I consider it to be the place where people who are really interested in a subject go to find knowledge. So yes, please help me. (Eduardopascal (talk) 13:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC));
 * I am not Binksternet. If you want to ask Binksternet a question, you should go to his or her talk page at User talk:Binksternet.  But I will try to answer your question as best I can.
 * Your edits were considered to be advertising in part because there were no sources. A policy of Wikipedia is that content must be verifiable with reliable sources.  This is also required so it can be determined whether the subject is notable which cannot be done without references.  If you have reliable sources for the content you wish to add, that will help make it follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.
 * Please let me know if there are any more questions. Thanks!  --Mysdaao talk 13:58, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, Eduardo Pascal, I considered your additions to be promotional advertising because there were no secondary sources listed confirming that the new tango record label was notable. I'm not against new tango labels, but to be mentioned here, the label must have gained notice in magazines, newspapers, or similar secondary sources. Can you quote a review? Binksternet (talk) 14:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, these are reliable sources (International newspapers) that talk about Mañana :

UK : http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/mar/21/worldmusic.shopping2 http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/album-melingo-maldito-tango-manana-816081.html France : http://www.telerama.fr/musiques/26582-maldito_tango.php Argentina : http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1041338 (Eduardopascal (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2009 (UTC));
 * In my opinion, those sources aren't enough to show that this record label is notable enough to be included in the article. Three are reviews of albums released by the label with no other mention of the label itself, and the other source contains an interview with an artist on that label with one mention of it.  I don't believe these sources alone are enough to show that this one record label belongs in an article on the entire history of tango music from its origin to today.  If you have any more sources that can show notability, feel free to tell me about them, and I'll be happy to help out more if I can.  --Mysdaao talk 19:37, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I think you are right. Mañana is maybe not famous enough to be mentioned in an article about Tango Music. But what about the artist Melingo ? This singer and his album (Maldito Tango) have had a lot of chronicles and articles in international newspaper (see above) he is now nominated for Best Tango Album of the year in the Latin Grammy Award (http://www.latingrammy.com/nominados/13-traditional) and his name is not in the article about Tango. What can we do about that ? (Eduardopascal (talk) 14:29, 25 September 2009 (UTC));
 * Daniel Melingo does appear to be a notable musician, but the article would grow too long if every notable tango musician was included in Tango music. A Wikipedia article is often split into multiple articles if it becomes too large.  There is a separate article for musicians called List of tango singers.  I suggest you add him there.  --Mysdaao talk 19:19, 25 September 2009 (UTC)