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Chelsea Manor Street
Thank you for your "thank"! Forty years ago I lived in Chesil Court, and WP:OR forbids me to add that so did the Longfords. I recall seeing them hovering in the lobby in evening dress one night and I legged upstairs to peer over the balcony to see whom they were waiting for. It was the then Prince of Wales. Also resident in the block were Cecil Madden and Harry Fowler, but alas I have no citation. I used to see Humphrey Lyttelton in the lobby sometimes, but I don't know if he maintained a flat there in addition to his main home in Barnet.  Tim riley  talk   22:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * And thank you for thanking me for thanking you, Tim. I have been slowly creating articles for Chelsea streets, living nearby. Almost all have notable people and buildings. Sat next to Frank Longford at dinner many moons ago. Quite a character. Chesil Court always has a fine Christmas tree in the lobby this time of year. According to Cracrofts Peerage, his son Patrick lived at 24 Chesil Court. And Roy Strong's diaries mentions a dinner on 7 July (year?) at the Longford flat. Sounds like we have some article expansion to do. Edwardx (talk) 11:19, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Natasha Farrant image
You added an image to Tash Farrant article here. I'm pretty sure that it's not the correct person- the article you added it to is about a 26-year old cricketer, and I guess that image is about a writer who's older than that. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:27, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Joseph2302. You are quite correct. I will have to start Natasha Farrant (author) if I am to use that image. Perhaps having just added my photo of another cricketer, Isabelle Westbury, contributed to my misidentification. Edwardx (talk) 15:31, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Isabelle Westbury doesn't look like the same person either. File:Isabelle Westbury running.jpg is of the cricketer, which is not the same skin colour as File:Isabelle Westbury 20191205.jpg. Looks like you need to create a Isabelle Westbury (author) article too ;) Joseph2302 (talk) 15:56, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If you look at her Instagram, esp the third one down on the left wearing a cricket cap, I think we have the correct Isabelle Westbury. Do you want to check my other photos at User:Edwardx/people? Edwardx (talk) 16:11, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yep the Westbury is fine, my mistake. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:37, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem. The image of her running could be almost anyone. Well, not me - insufficient hair. Edwardx (talk) 11:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Oskar Hartmann

 * Hallo, Edward
 * Ich finde die Artikel, die Sie auf Wikipedia erstellen, veröffentlichen und bearbeiten, sehr schön. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zillah_Byng-Thorne Ich habe mich gefragt, ob Sie einen Artikel über Oskar Hartmann, Unternehmer, Business Angel und internationaler Investor, schreiben und in der deutschen oder englishen Version von Wikipedia veröffentlichen könnten?
 * Der Artikel sollte seinen beruflichen Werdegang, seine Investitionen und seine Lebensphilosophie widerspiegeln. Ein Beispiel für einen Text, der mir angemessen erscheint
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett
 * Mein Name ist Emma Rogers
 * Ich freue mich darauf, von Ihnen zu hören. Können Sie eine solche Aufgabe übernehmen. RogEmma (talk) 11:23, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, RogEmma. There is not enough coverage in reliable sources to merit an article about Oskar Hartmann. And frankly, he is neither rich enough nor significant enough to interest me. Edwardx (talk) 12:04, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ach, schade. Cielquiparle (talk) 19:31, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Piers Court
Hi Edward, First, apologies. I got a a bit carried away with Piers Court. I hope I’ve not trodden on your toes too much! I think I’m about done for now, but I have left a query on the Talkpage. I think I might have been a bit too definite about the fate of the library. The problem is that the sources use “library” interchangeably both for Waugh’s books, and for the library fixtures and fittings, e.g. the bookcases. So it’s not clear whether both went with Waugh to Combe Florey, or whether he had another constructed at CF and the Ransom Center then bought both - and the books. I shall do some more digging. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 16:46, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, KJP1. Kind of you to apologise, but I am honestly delighted that another editor has come along and done the heavy lifting. I have plenty of other articles in need of creation or expansion. The library ambiguity is interesting. Edwardx (talk) 17:00, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Now look what you've made me do! KJP1 (talk) 11:50, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Oops. I did have a quick look yesterday, and saw it was created in 2007. Now I realise that 2007 was a redirect, and you've done the whole thing from scratch. Impressed. And they are both up for sale. But which one to buy? Edwardx (talk) 12:57, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * In my humble opinion, Piers Court is the more attractive house. And it’s £2.5M cheaper. But then there is the small matter of the sitting tenant, and their, umm…, chequered history! According to Rightmove, Combe Florey’s under offer,, so you’ll need to be quick. What both those articles really need are images. KJP1 (talk) 14:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * And handier from London for a weekend break. Or just buy both so that we can get some photos. The things we do for Wikipedia. Edwardx (talk) 14:09, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Infobox question
Hi. Could you please take a quick look at the infobox for Park Ji-hyun (politician) and let me know if it looks ok and/or how to improve? Cielquiparle (talk) 00:04, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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Artie Minson Page
Hi Edwardx - first, thanks for all you do for the Wikipedia community. Reaching out as I've tried to update Artie Minson's wikipedia with current information regarding his role and history several times. Each time I've updated the page for recency and accuracy, you've reverted the content back to previous roles making the page outdated. Is there something I need to do in order to have my updates stay live? 11201PM (talk) 15:02, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 * First, you need to make a declaration, please see Conflict of interest. Then read Biographies of living persons, Citing sources and Reliable sources. I am an unpaid volunteer. Sorry, but the onus is on you to make the effort. Edwardx (talk) 23:37, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Peter Strausfeld
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Dominic Cummings
I sort of see your point but I don't think your edit quite covers your meaning. I have done another edit which may help. Since the lead is supposed to summarise the rest of the article it might be useful to add some more of his criticisms since the Kuenssberg interview of July 2021. Do you have any details and sources? I believe there have been some but don't have the material to hand.Spinney Hill (talk) 11:25, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

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KBEs
Im unclear as to the reversal of the edits to various pages containing KBEs and other such titles. You state that if it’s from another country it is not applicable but that is not stated in Wiki rules or true in reality either. You might be referring to how in the UK non UK citizens cannot be referred to as Sir or Dame and the associated OBE but the designation of KBE was made for non UK Citizens and can be used freely. I will add back in this association on various pages as hopefully this clarifies the point. SamuelFisherman (talk) 23:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Policy on this is clear. Please refer to the first sentence of MOS:POSTNOM (which I have linked to in my edit summaries), "When the subject of an article has received honours or appointments issued either by the subject's state of citizenship or residence, or by a widely recognized organization that reliable sources regularly associate with the subject, post-nominal letters may be included in the lead section." None of the people concerned are or have been British citizens or residents. Edwardx (talk) 00:04, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The policy may be clear but I unfortunately dont agree that your read of it is complete.
 * Two points:
 * You are crucially missing the second part of the sentence in your analysis which is "by a widely recognized organization that reliable sources regularly associate with the subject". First part: I think the UK being a recognised organisation is obvious. Second part: In your case both Ralph Lauren and Paul Polman have clear associations with the UK with Polman even having run the UK largest company. Both maintain foundations in the UK and even own companies based in the UK.
 * You also are assuming the country of residence for none of these are the UK. Polman specifically runs a UK based company called Imagine and Lauren has been UK resident in the past.
 * Regardless of if you agree with point 2 or not, which no reason why you shouldn't, point 1 is strong enough that the KBE should be re-instated. They clearly would not have won the award had there been no UK association.
 * Interesting exercise to think through this however. SamuelFisherman (talk) 11:35, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You have misunderstood the second part of the sentence. "or by a widely recognized organization ... " means post-nominals associated with organizations such as the Royal Society (eg John/Jane Doe FRS etc). When was Ralph Lauren a UK resident? Nothing about this in his article. As for Paul Polman, was he ever formally a UK resident? Is Imagine UK-based? Sources? And where are the details of these foundations and companies in their articles? As always, we must observe Biographies of living persons, Citing sources, and Reliable sources. Edwardx (talk) 12:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * A VERY quick google and you can find the information. For example the linkedin page of Imagine showing its London location.
 * I understand there is an element of learning and I appreciate the patiences in teaching. This should now be settled as it relates to Biographies of living persons. SamuelFisherman (talk) 12:58, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * According to LinkedIn, London is their primary location. For LinkedIn as a source, please see Reliable sources/Perennial sources - "is considered generally unreliable and should be avoided unless the post is used for an uncontroversial self-description." So, okay for the London claim, but not much else. In any event, on Imagine's website Polman is listed as "Co-Founder & Chair Emeritus", so this makes no tangible contribution to his "state of citizenship or residence" for the purposes of MOS:POSTNOM. Edwardx (talk) 13:22, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Polmans own linkedin account states him as based in United Kingdom. His identity as owner of the page can be confirmed and thus is considered reliable.
 * It is uncommon to question that somebody would live in a country in which they ran a large company for 10 years and subsequently co-founded a company. There are countless links for both Polman and Lauren...again neither would have received a rare award if that was not the case.
 * Again, assuming no further comments I will leave it to you to revert or I can attend to it in time. SamuelFisherman (talk) 20:40, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Nazifuddin Najib
Reply to here: because it is the wrong way to sort Malay names, which I think you realized right away as you just removed the defaultsort in the next edit. '''Engr. Smitty  Werben''' 00:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

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Edwardx undoes changes without consultation
Biography must not be abused to harm charity association.

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How do i stop the abuse of Exwardx ? Johnvandeput (talk) 13:33, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Exwardx is always doing that, particularly when the edits are bad. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:52, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Edwardx has friends here

Can someone of his friends stop Edwardx ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnvandeput (talk • contribs) 14:05, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I am not the only long-established editor to have reversed your removal of well-cited content. Fram has kindly explained all of this to you at Talk:John Caudwell. Edwardx (talk) 11:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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Fanous
Thanks for the revert in Fanous (surname). Definitely missed that somehow. Cheers, --Engineerchange (talk) 19:10, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Easily missed, Engineerchange. We could probably do with a page for Famous (surname), although it will likely need a bit of code to find the other Famous people. Edwardx (talk) 19:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thank you. Feeling much better today. Edwardx (talk) 21:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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List of country houses in the United Kingdom


Added your house to the list! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:26, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. But it is not my house! Edwardx (talk) 21:47, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course not. It's too small. Cielquiparle (talk) 03:32, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

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Rain Newton-Smith
Thanks for creating the article. I'd already done so, but then some busy-body deleted it before I'd had a chance to add a reference (he could have just added the reference himself - there are plenty now available). Wikipedia is so frustrating at times. Good idea to add that banner at the top to stop these over-enthusiastic users. Pikemaster (talk) 12:50, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

You're nicked!


A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 01:29, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * In case anyone is curious as to what this "attack page" might be, it was a simple redirect from "Rich Boy Rishi" to Rishi Sunak. This was part of a batch created in October 2022, along with redirects prompted by Joe Biden's mispronunciation of his name as Rashee/Rashi Sanook, and redirects for his parents and children. Perhaps "Rich Boy Rishi" was a redirect too far, yet hardly an attack page. It was somewhat used at the time, but never achieved the popularity of say "Dishy Rishi". Edwardx (talk) 13:02, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Are there reliable sources using "Rich Boy Rishi"? If not it seems like a bit of silliness that should be deleted. I have never heard the phrase. Agree the warning about creating an attack page is nonsense. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:06, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The leading search engine returns 3,200 results for "Rich Boy Rishi". It does get at least passing mentions in reliable sources, but never achieved wide currency. Perhaps it was too obvious and a tad boorish. Rishi Rich was already taken, and Richie Rich has a long history dating back at least to a 1953 comic book, Richie Rich (character). The later may well have been inspired by the notorious Richard Rich, 1st Baron Rich (1496–1567). Edwardx (talk) 11:01, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * But plenty are "rich boy Rishi" and "rich boy" Rishi which are very different to "Rich Boy Rishi". Not sure if there is a rule about it but I would think that nicknames would need very strong evidence before being valid redirects, particularly as there are plenty of Richs and probably Rishis around. I will nominate it for deletion if I can find the button. Sophia Money-Coutts really exists and always makes me smile. But she's not nearly as wealthy as Rishi. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:45, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No need, the redirect was deleted 33 minutes after the notice was posted on my talkpage. Edwardx (talk) 11:53, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * What a shame. I was hoping for some drama, like an attack page on Rahul Ligma. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:50, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I assume one may say what one wants about fictional people. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:58, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I can only offer my most humble apologies to anyone who may be disappointed by my abject failure to create a proper attack page. Edwardx (talk) 12:01, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That's quite all right. Some skills cannot be taught. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:39, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Create a fictional character and get it all out of your system. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:02, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


 * In our household, he's known as Dishi Rishi and I find that we have a list of nicknames of prime ministers of the United Kingdom. Rishi's score is 4 so far... Andrew🐉(talk) 17:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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Cini Boeri
Hello Edwardx, thank you for tidying-up the Cini Boeri (and Vignelli) articles. One of the awards may actually merit inclusion in the Infobox (and certianly in the article itself): the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic, which Boeri received in 2011 (this honour is presented by the nation's president in a ceremony at the Quirinale presidential palace in Rome, and is probably similar in importance to a KBE in the UK). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:04, 22 April 2023 (UTC) PS: I looked into this a bit more and learned that Boeri was also the recipient of the Ambrogino d'oro, which is a high civic award conferred by the mayor of Milan. I've added a note about these two awards on the Talk page of the article. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 07:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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