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Mike Adenuga
Hello,.

I notice that you reverted my edit on Chief Adenuga's wiki page. What is more, all you left as a description after doing so was that my edit was "pointless".

I would very much like it if you could kindly explain to me what exactly you found pointless about my edit. Unless I'm very much mistaken, I believe that one of the citations that is used to support the lede refers to him using the pre-nominal, so it's not as if I made it up out of nothing. If that particular reference has since been removed, I can find another one which also supports my position that usage of the pre-nominal is the proper form.

In addition, referring to him as Chief Mike Adenuga is correct in our chieftaincy system. Another popular usage is to use the word "otunba" as a pre-nominal, although I don't personally believe that that is proper. I can provide a citation that supports that position. I stand to be corrected on it, though.

As I have said before, chiefs in Nigeria should be given their due on Wikipedia. I don't understand why baronets and knights are treated one way by Wikipedia, and our chiefs are treated another. Our system is legally recognized here, so why are its titles being treated with such contempt?

Yours sincerely,

O.ominirabluejack (talk) 16:07, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello again, ...


 * You failed to respond to my message. I can only assume that you have been busy.


 * In furtherance of what was said above, I went to check and I found the citation in the lede that I referred to. Chief Adenuga's pre-nominal is supported by it. I am therefore restoring it to his article.


 * Here's hoping that this finds you well.


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Speedy deletion contested: Shafat Qazi
Hello Edwardx. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Shafat Qazi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: This article has multiple sources that date to after the initial deletion discussion. Thank you. BangJan1999 14:23, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Bruce Rockowitz for deletion
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Nomination of Beate Heister for deletion
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Suppressing citizenship in infoboxes
Hello Edwardx. You have been recently suppressing the citizenship in the infoboxes of a number of individuals, on the grounds that "Most biography infoboxes have nationality and citizenship. Generally, use of either should be avoided when the country to which the subject belongs can be inferred from the country of birth". But the fact is that this inference can be made with certitude only very rarely: only if the country of birth has unrestricted jus soli, which is almost never the case outside the American continent. And of course this suppression should be made only if it is a well-known fact that jus soli is applied, and this in my opinion leaves us only with the United States of America. In any case, please refrain from suppressing the citizenship of persons born outside of the American continent. Thanks. Sapphorain (talk) 22:11, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Loft design by for deletion
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Collins's Music Hall
So glad you approved of my recent addition of an article on Collins's. As I've lived in Islington ever since I moved from Chelsea via the Barbican in 1984, I thought it was time I did my bit to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the borough. There are several other long-gone places of entertainment in Islington on my possibles list, but if you have any suggestions I should be delighted to have them. Warmest greetings,  Tim riley  talk   12:10, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Tim riley. Used to regularly pass by on the 38 bus many moons ago. I have done articles on quite a number of Chelsea streets over the years, but only recently did my first in Islington, Noel Road. The DYK has been approved, so on the front page before too long, possibly with a photo (and a rather grisly hook). Will see if I can think of anything else in your locale. Lovely to hear from you, and trust you are keeping well. Edwardx (talk) 23:04, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Emily and Jerry Spiegel
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DYK for Lady with a Fan (Klimt)
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 * I wondered why this DYK posted at such a peculiar time...and just found the answer here: Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know (We also just missed out on a full 24-hour run...) Cielquiparle (talk) 18:18, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Despite the short run, looking at the statistics it is the median image hook for the month to date with 278vph. Maybe if the hook had been "...contains a weird hidden message" or "...is actually a map to undiscovered treasure", who knows? Edwardx (talk) 19:51, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm seeing 469.6 vph in the table; 479.3 vph is the "median" between Dame mit Fächer and Ein Samiya. I actually think it would have performed better during a longer run spanning European daytime to evening, rather than middle of the night. Or, we could have written an "Asian" hook. Or something. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:15, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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What happened here?
I'm assuming the destructive impact of this edit of yours at Mais qui? was unintentional, as it unfortunately did not at all do what you thought it did per your edit summary, and left the article in a much poorer state than when you started. Because of other edits subsequent to yours that were beneficial, your edit cannot easily be undone, and will have to be painstakingly rectified manually. I'm trying to figure out what happened here, so we can apply a fix, if there's a tool involved. I'm assuming there was a tool, because of of yours, all made within four minutes of each other, all with the same edit summary. (The other three are all fine; I checked.)

According to your edit summary at Mais qui?, you were:

and that may have occurred in some small measure (hard to find, in the the huge diff; I spotted one such, and agree with it) but for the most part, what your edit did was two things: This looks to me like an unintentional undo of the previous edit at the article. One way for this to have occurred, is if you had an old version of the article lying around in your browser from about ten hours earlier, and then edited without refreshing the page first, and ignored the edit conflict and saving the page. But checking your edit history around that time, that seems highly unlikely, especially given the fact that this was your only edit ever at the article. That, plus the series of in quick succession makes me think you must have been using a tool, but not AWB, as that tacks on a link to the tool in the summary (unless you overrode it).
 * it replaced logical names in references like,  , or   with opaque, VE-style numeric ones like  ,  , and   throughout the article (since repaired by User:Miniapolis by script);
 * it undid the recommended usage of the lang template for marking and styling foreign words, and replaced the templates with wiki italic markup instead.

Can you shed any light on what you were doing at the time? I'm concerned that there is a tool out there that somehow picks up an old version of an article instead of the current one, and if that is the case, the tool should be blocked until a fix can be implemented. Even so, any semiautomated tool (like AWB) should always present the proposed diff in Preview mode for the user to accept or modify, so even if there is a broken tool out there, as AWB triply warns, "You are responsible for every edit made." Can you enlighten about what tool, if any, you were using, and what exactly happened here, to the best of your recollection? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:50, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I simply removed the from France, Jews, etc. No tool was involved. Very odd. Edwardx (talk) 22:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate? How did you manage to find the unrelated that you edited all around the same time and executed the same edit with the same summary? From some Category, perhaps? Not sure what time zone you're in, but is it possible you found the page and viewed it around 00:05, 30 July 2023 (UTC), then left it in your browser for about 10 hours, finally editing it at 10:17 (UTC)? Because based on the content after your edit, it looks like you edited the old revision 1167803468 of 23:55, 29 July 2023, because if you diff that version with yours, you get this diff, which shows only a very small number of changes, including dropping the brackets around Jews, and a couple other minor changes; does that diff look familiar to you? So in sum: how and when did you find the Mais qui? article, and did you wait for some hours after finding it but before editing it, and did you preview before saving? Mathglot (talk) 22:38, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Cannot recall how I stumbled across Mais qui?. As for the others, they were likely either on my watchlist or near the bottom of Main Page queue. Edwardx (talk) 22:59, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Realised that the Mais qui? connection is that is was included in my "Notices", as linking to Gérald Darmanin, a page I created. Edwardx (talk) 23:03, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, that explains that part of it. Any idea on how you ended up editing an old revision? Maybe something like, found it the night before, left it in the browser, then opened up the browser first thing in the morning with the page still there, and edited it without realizing the page had moved on since then? Somehow or other, you had to have started your editing from the old, 23:55 revision, which didn't include several subsequent revisions, and when you hit Publish, it blew them all away, restoring the old version, plus the one word you unlinked. Although that should've given you an Edit conflict page which would be pretty impossible to overlook, so it's a bit of a mystery. I'm not sure we'll ever get to the bottom of this, but it's going to be a bit of a hassle to fix, so maybe you were just going too fast in that edit series, and going forward it would help if you could ensure you're working with the latest version, and maybe do a quick diff before you publish, then at least you'll know that you're about to save the version you intend to. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:42, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I would have almost certainly have noticed if it was an old version. Edwardx (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
 * But, clearly it was an old version, you see that, right? Did you look at the diffs? Here's what you actually did: diff—just look at how huge it is, with changes all over the article, blowing away all the refnames and the templates. No way you intended to do that, given your edit summary and what you've been saying here, but that is in fact your edit. And here's what I think you intended to do, something like this diff, which is a diff of your edit against the old version of 23:55 29 July: notice how it's a very small diff, just an unlinked term and other minor stuff. I'm not sure if that was the exact revision you picked up, but if it wasn't that one, it was pretty close to that one. I don't know how you missed the old version, either, but somehow you did; that's the mystery part. I'm going to let you be, because no way we're going to figure this out more than we already have, but given that it's happened, maybe just go a mite slower and double-check before saving, that's all I'm saying. Happy editing, Mathglot (talk) 00:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Ari Rennert for deletion
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DYK for Yellow sticker
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Talk page
Hi Edwardx,

I saw that you sent me a message on my talk page. Thanks so much for the information. I have no connection whatsoever to Forbes. I literally just copied what was mentioned in the sources that I added, but if that sounded too promotional, I apologize. That was not my intention whatsoever. I only just wanted to add any interesting additional information I could find in sources I read online. I will make sure to read the guidelines that you sent to me. I would just like to learn how to add info to articles that I find interesting. It really is not my intention at all to puff up this article. Again my apologies if it came across that way.

Thanks again. Lingodu (talk) 18:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Lingodu. I have copied your reply to User talk:Lingodu, and will respond there. Edwardx (talk) 11:51, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Jim Goetz
Hi Edwardx, I just noticed you'd added a Personal life section on the biographical article Jim Goetz. You may not be aware, but just a few days ago I had asked at BLP/N that information about his family members be removed—notwithstanding the availability of sources—in accordance with applicable policies; you can see that discussion here. Mind reconsidering? WWB Too (Talk &middot; COI) 23:11, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, WWB Too. I note that you work for Goetz. Many businesspeople seek to keep a low profile. The previous sourcing was inadequate.  What little I have added is well-sourced and uncontroversial. Edwardx (talk) 23:20, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand that view. Although, as I explained at BLP/N, my understanding of of BLP policy is that sourceability and non-controversy are not necessarily the end of the discussion, so I will be raising the matter again there. And indeed I am representing Mr. Goetz, as noted in the discussion I linked for you. I believe you are editing in good faith, and I hope you'll extend the same courtesy regarding my participation, even where we may disagree. WWB Too (Talk &middot; COI) 13:42, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Emily and Jerry Spiegel
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Chat
It was good to catch up with you and others at the Wikimeet today. As ChatGPT was discussed, here's a link to the research project FYI: Implications of ChatGPT for knowledge integrity. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:10, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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Profile Pic for Natashia Williams
Can you please assist me; I’m trying to understand the issue with the Vampire Diaries profile pic update. There seems to be some warring about about this and for not explicit reason. The older picture is not in use anymore for marketing; Is there an issue with the newer picture? Thank you for your reply and helping with this. The notes say you removed the last picture edit. Happy2Be100 (talk) 05:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Happy2Be100. You should continue to discuss this at Talk:Natashia Williams. I have reverted your latest changes, and note that on the article talkpage you state that you are the subject, so have left you a "Managing a conflict of interest" message on your talkpage accordingly. Edwardx (talk) 11:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you for all your help!
 * I went ahead and placed a request on the talk page for Natashia Willams (SELF) and asked for specific assistance there. I know there’s some stringent guidelines for all forms of communication & writing here; so I’m hoping I did this correctly. If you wouldn’t mind or have a moment to please see for yourself; and if it’s lacking in any way, please do let me know. I respect you all for running such a tight ship- it requires much effort, understanding & attention to detail! It can be a bit intimidating for us regular folks but I’m doing my best🙏
 * -xx Many Thanks Again Edwardx
 * Natashia
 * Happy2Be100 (talk) 14:21, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello Edwardx,
 * I just declared the on the talk page and when making the edit. Sorry to keep bothering, I’m trying my best to do this correctly. Is it ok to keep the current edit up? Thank you for your continued help and patience with the matter
 * Happy2Be100 (talk) 16:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)