User talk:Eebahgum/Archive 1

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Doctor Faustus
Hello, I'm not sure what sort of template you might be talking about. Are you perhaps talking about the infobox that the Novels WikiProject uses on some of the articles? You can put that if you want. I read Doctor Faustus quite a few years ago, so I don't feel quite competent to contribute much to it at the moment. If you are looking for article models to emulate, The Old Man and the Sea is a featured article.

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I hope this helps, and nice to meet you! -- Kyok o  14:18, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

St John 1380 version
Well it must be wonderful to be able to be so specific. I look forward to seeing the research that led to this, as much as I am sure you are. Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 11:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Re Maria Ivogün please read WP:CIVIL
OK, so I made a mistake with my German! Please read WP:CIVIL. We don't make abusive edit summaries here. If you make a habit of this - especially if you attack people who make small errors and typos etc. - you will be blocked. -- Kleinzach 07:23, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I had only just translated it - you shouldn't be so quick to jump in when you haven't got your facts right. I was criticizing you for your bad manners, not your 'typo'. I translated the word out of German because not all readers will know what that term means. Your reaction above is OTT and inflammatory, quite unnecessary. The term I used was extremely mild, almost affectionate in its intentions, and you have gone off like a steam-whistle. I have never found it necessary to use any such term to any other editor, so there is no question of 'making a habit of it.' Your threat, however, is an extremely violent and absolute one, quite disproportionate: I find it a very abusive response, given your experience and status here, and that this all started with your mistake. As you say, that is not how 'WE' should behave in Wikipedia. I apologise for my impatient remark - I know you have a big edit history in classical singing, and respect your work. Please show some respect for me, and for my contributions. Eebahgum 15:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I accept your apology assuming good faith. If you don't want your work edited before you have finished it - which is perfectly reasonable - then you should use a 'sandbox' page connected to your userpage. When you have finished you can then put it on a public page. Thank you for your kind words about my WP work. I'm sure you'll get on famously here if you don't compare your fellow editors to animals. I look forward to reading your other pages. -- Kleinzach 00:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I have made the apology and you have accepted it - thankyou. The rest is superfluous, for you, too, admit that you made the original edit too hastily. We can both learn. I am interested in writing useful articles, and have no wish to engage in personalities whatever. No doubt we shall meet on another page and I hope that when that happens we can proceed with mutual respect and professionalism. Eebahgum 06:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Eebahgum,

thank you very much for your message and your help!

Best wishes, AL31T —Preceding unsigned comment added by AL31T (talk • contribs) 12:23, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Gladys Ripley
Hi Eebahgum, Thanks for your note. I've put the discussion on Talk:Gladys Ripley for the benefit of future editors. Nunquam Dormio 10:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Norman Walker
Dear Eebahgum, Great username! I guess I was thinking of the format rather than the internal links. There might have been a better tag, perhaps. I'd be glad to change it/delete it if it's better for me to do it. Plse advise. --AndrewHowse 03:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks great now. btw I was surprised there's not an article on Look Up and Laugh, although I found Sing As We Go - sometimes google does a better job of searching than wikipedia's own search engine. Something to do with capitalisation of words, I think. --AndrewHowse 12:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Falkner
Great work on the Falkner and Boyce articles. I was pleased to see them appear. I checked the Cornell University library catalog for the Dichterliebe, and it doesn't show up in the Music Library or the University Archives. However, an article about the performance did appear in the student newspaper in 1952: http://cdsun.library.cornell.edu/collect/y19523/index/assoc/D53.dir/doc16.pdf —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cornell2010 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Asylum...
Eebahgum, Thanks, I would really like that! My previous tutor/mentor Equazcion seems to have taken a leave of absence... Thanks for The Duenna feedback, I'm going to add a plot asap, any other things I can add? I'd quite like to collaborate with someone on an article, are you up for this? Lord Foppington 01:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Martha
Dear Kleinzach, I have had a go at shaping up that passage in the Martha article, which you felt could be kept and amended. (It was not mine originally.) Do you think this helps? The article could do with a bit of a facelift altogether... Eebahgum 16:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks good - I was initially surprised by the link to St Martha but then figured it out. I've removed the tags. The production history needs writing up properly but i don't know if you want to do any more on it. Best. -- Kleinzach 23:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

DYknow nom.

 * ...that drivers on London's Brompton Road used to avoid Italian tenor Antonio Giuglini as he played with kites? by Eebahgum

I also added a picture and infobox. OK? Victuallers 15:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC) Updated DYK query 	On November 13, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Antonio Giuglini, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Really eccentric fellow. Just the thing to liven up DYK. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Well Met
well met good Sir, you are back, rested? ready for the flights of fancy? I wish you a brilliant, constructive and fun 2008 Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 15:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Braham
Dear EBG, thanks for this note. I am not a buyer of this sort of thing, but it is of interest as a contribution to the history of Braham's downfall as a theatre proprietor - if he had to go on giving out freebies like this, no wonder he went bust! I wish you however a prosperous New Year - --Smerus (talk) 15:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Mark Hambourg
Hi, Eebahgum. HNY to you too. I've no immediate plans for Herr Hambourg, so please feel free to stubify away to your heart's content. Cheers. (Oh, I'll have mine with bacon, cheese, egg ... no, damn it, with the lot! :)  --  JackofOz (talk) 20:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Guido Adler
Dear Eebahgum, thanks for your kind words on the Guido Adler article, and your interest on early German/Austrian musicologists. I didn't actually design the original article--I just added the piece on his systematization of Musikwissenschaft--so I'm not sure what the original intention of headings like "Lost to the World" might have been. As far as I know, he spent the missing years editing editions of his friends' work (he was close with Mahler, among others), and writing his important Handbuch der Musikwissenschaft, which was the first attempt at a comprehensive reference/textbook for musicologists. I know a bit about Otto Abraham, since I have dealt with some of his writings on Japanese music; an entry on him is a good idea. If I can find the time, I will certainly add to these entries, as well as Hornbostel and Sachs, who are also key early musicologists. Thanks again! Rikyu (talk) 02:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Józef Turczyński
As far as I can tell, there is no pl wiki article about him yet. I will see if I can find anything useful for an elink section.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 21:46, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Notability of Bolesław Kon
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 * Very well then, I have removed the tag. Thanks for following the directions instead of removing the notice like most people do.--Sunny910910 (talk 03:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think that putting a notice on the talkpage is nessessary, if you disagree with me you can always put it back.--Sunny910910 (talk 03:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK

 * Thanks for creating this interesting article! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Dorothy (opera)
Hello! Thanks for the message. It's a nice photo and goes together well with Tempest's. I don't see how the article has much room for more photos, though! LOL! BTW, if you have Coffin's book, please beef up his article! All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You wrote that you have "photos for Dorothy of Furneaux Cook as Squire Bantam, Hayden Coffin himself as Harry Sherwood, and a different one to yours of Arthur Williams as Lurcher. Plus a great shot of Alfred Cellier, H. J. Leslie and B. C. Stephenson all together. These are Walery photos so all qualify for a PD-UK-known copyright expired free licence, and the book itself is 1930 so well pre-1938. This is slightly outside my sphere of operations but I'll gladly upload these to commons for you if you'd like them in here and haven't got 'em."
 * Yes, please do upload them. They will be useful in a number of articles.  It also seems to me that Cook deserves an article.  See this.  Thanks!  -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I put up an article on Furneaux Cook, but it needs more references. Can you add references from your book with page numbers? Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Fernando de Lucia cleanup
Great work on the references! Those must have taken a while to find. You can remove the tag if you wish, but keeping it for a little longer will (hopefully) encourage others to edit and improve the article as well. Maybe a more appropriate tag now would be. Suggestions? The sources could be grouped under the references heading, and those red links could either be created or removed (by taking the  brackets away from them) Think outside the box 15:41, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe the unofficial policy towards red links is to leave them if its likely they'll be created. Ah, I've just found Red link: "Red links should not be created for topics that will never have articles". Most in Fernando de Lucia are names, so I'd leave them be. Think outside the box 16:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Charles Santley
I don't watch this page (I'm more interested in Kate), but if you tell me when you are finished, I'll give it a once over for a second pair of eyes. Nice job digging up the new info. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

John Burrel FLS FES and Simon Wilkin FLS
Can anyone add to these stubs please.Bsst wishes from Ireland Notafly (talk) 13:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

St James
Hi, I have made a start on St James's Hall- please you'd like to add a bit? Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 18:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. The second hall seems a bit of a mystery- it seems to have been only used for concerts briefly, and then held a variety of political meetings upto around July, 1910. After that it seems to have been sold off- the same advertisement occurs from July, 1910 till May, 1911:
 * "St. James's Hall, Great Portland Street, For particulars of this Concert Hall, having seating accomodation for about 1000 people, with showroom combined suitable for the pianoforte trade, apply to the Sole Agents, MAY and ROWDEN, 27, Maddox street, W.".


 * There are a couple of images of it here, and here- I don't suppose you recognise it? Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 19:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Elkin info- it is probably still under copyright so it will need to be rewritten. The Hall was definitely an important venue- even after it closed there are numerous references in the Times (where it is referred to as the "old St James's Hall") right up to the 1930s. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 20:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Do either of you have access to this? I don't.  :(   -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Lots of good info. Can you cut the big quotes down under "other uses" and write the sense of them in your own words, so as not to copy too much of the author's copyrighted text?  Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

HM's? Huh? LOL.
You wrote: "...do you think it would be appropriate to mention Tietjens and Giuglini in the 1862-1867 paragraph on HM's?"

Sorry, do you mean the Her Majesty's Theatre article? I'm not sure where you are looking? Go ahead and make whatever change you think is correct - I'm not very knowlegeable about Tietjens and Giuglini. My focus is comic opera (especially Gilbert and Sullivan) and Edwardian musical comedy as well as other forms of musical theatre in the later Victorian and Edwardian periods, so this classical music stuff is pretty far afield of my areas of interest/expertise. I only knew about Charles Santley, because I had done some research on his sister, Kate Santley. LOL! The only reason I got involved with Her Majesty's Theatre article is because I wanted to help out Kb, who has done a lot of favors for me on Gilbert and Sullivan and related areas. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message. Interesting thought.  As far as I know, Kate never had anything to do with the Gaiety.  I am not surprised that Hollingshead did not support Santley in his effort to found a lyric theatre at the Gaiety.  The Gaiety was devoted primarily to burlesque (genre), pantomime and other broad-comedy forms of musical theatre.  Santley might have had better luck if he had approached Richard D'Oyly Carte, although D'Oyly Carte apparently didn't become interested in lyric theatre until about 1890.  But Carl Rosa was probably the right move for Santley.  Kate Santley was not really an opera singer.  She did some light comic opera roles, but she was primarily a comedy singer.  Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Carl Rosa Opera Company
If you have any sources that would help to expand the Carl Rosa article, please do so, and I'll be happy to give it a second pair of eyes. I've put into the article what I could find on the internet, but I bet there is much more to say. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Charles Santley
I tried to beef up his intro per WP:LEAD to make it into more of an overview of the article. Since you have expanded the article, it deserves probably a 3 paragraph LEAD, so you might want to add a few more highlights of his career/life into the lead. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi KBT, [maybe it was Mr ilvers?] Thanks for your input on Charles Santley. I have added him, and also Tietjens and Giuglini, and linked them, in the HMs 1860s section as they were all so prominent there (I realise it doesnt want a list of everyone), and their articles have lots more detail about productions at the theatre. Hope you think that's good, best wishes Eebahgum (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * hiya, we just did a merge from Her Majesty's Theatre/temp, please check that what you were doing is still present in the text; as it was extensively changed there. cheers Kbthompson (talk) 00:07, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The primary text is in the main article now. I am about to delete the /temp page. cheers Kbthompson (talk) 00:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

== re Alfred Edward Housman == Thanks for your comment at my talkpage; I shall reply at the article talkpage so others may opine if desired. Cheers. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I made no threats - I gave an appraisal of the situation. Verification by third party is just that - party b) referring to party a)'s critique/analysis of of the subject. Your analysis falls under party a), that is a secondary source. As such, it fails WP:V and can be removed - and in an edit war the removing party has the advantage. Them's the rules, and all I am doing is pointing them out. You are welcome to ask another editor for an opinion, of course. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

St James Hall
Thanks for your message- I will see what more I can find on the Monday and Richter concerts over the weekend. I didn't mention this, but a relative of mine George Leslie was the secretary to St James Hall. He was a partner in Frederick Patey Chappell's solicitors firm and also his brother in law (they both married Drakes from Norfolk!). George's brother Henry David Leslie was quite an important figure in 19th century music, being a founder of the short lived National College of Music and later the Royal College. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 23:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Harvard referencing in "Honest Tom" Martin
I'm sorry to revert your hard work, but WP:Harvard referencing isn't really supposed to be mixed with inline citations... it's either one or the other. --Yamara ✉  22:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I meant mixed with footnotes... --Yamara ✉  22:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

re Christian Urhan
Thinking back, I imagine it's most likely that I got it from the fr:Christian Urhan page, so it's probably not much use to you. Tomkeene (talk) 12:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

References and sources
I saw your comment on Marleau's page. Hope you don't mind me commenting on it, but I think your second point about references/sources may be worth mentioning on the Opera Project. BTW, personally, when I start an article and give a source that means the whole article is based on that one source, so if I've used Grove and you have Viking you can go ahead and add the Viking info. Best. -- Kleinzach (talk) 02:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply, but over to you on this one - I'm sure the project would prefer to hear from you directly! Re capitalization did you see the discussion on French capitalization here? Voceditenore explains the background very well. Khovanshchina has been done - not sure how well but it's substantial. Good luck with Josef Tichatschek! BTW do you know the List of article-worthy Wagner singers. Lots of scope there. -- Kleinzach (talk) 02:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah! Congratulations on the makeover, if that's the right word . . . why not join the Opera project? We need to be all working together. -- Kleinzach (talk) 04:20, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your welcome, but Heinrich Schlussnus is not my doing, all I did to the article is link it to German Opera Singers. I try to avoid personal POV - but I like when there is some kind of mention of what a singer was all about, beside just repertoire. As for sources, I am not sure I understand what you mean. Best ! Marleau (talk) 12:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Brigadoonery?
No, surely that's Scottish, but I don't know what the Irish equivalent is. There must be one. It's very good to hear from you. I enjoyed your book, it put things into context. That's the trouble with the brigadoonery. Modern writers are forever comparing and contrasting and disagreeing with what T. F. O'Rahilly, or Eoin MacNeill, or whoever it was said sixty years ago. I haven't the first idea of what they might have said, so it's rather like trying to make sense of a phone call when you can only hear one end of it. Anyway, I do hope you're now feeling 110% recovered. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 03:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

References (cont.)
You did an excellent job. I just noticed the format was slightly different from ours and thought I should let you know. It's only a minor point. Best. -- Kleinzach (talk) 22:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Signor Brocolini
I added this new article. Any comments/changes welcome. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message. Oops!  I get it!  LOL!  Best regards,  -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Albert Niemann
Hi, the original article was about a person who devised a technique for isolating cocaine. Therefore you are safe to write an article about a tenor without worrying about copyright violations. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Albert Niemann
Thanks. See the picture - it's always worth checking the German Wiki for German singers. Incidentally the reason for putting him in the Tenors cat is that we are about to do a large scale move of articles from 'Sopranos', 'Tenors' etc to 'Operatic Sopranos', 'Operatic tenors' etc. --Kleinzach (talk) 11:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm aware of all that - we've had a huge volume of discussion in the past about all this. --Kleinzach (talk) 11:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Re the pic, I think it's OK. Grove also has a photo, not the same one, but it's obviously the same man. --Kleinzach (talk) 11:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

The Duenna
Thanks for the Michael Kelly anecdote; I've never read his 'Reminiscences', is it worth a read? I've actually never heard of Sheridan taking such an active role in his own plays after 1800 so I found it very interesting. Glad you ewnjoyed the article. I might have to finish it sometime and then start on the rest of Sheridan's works! Yours,Lord Foppington (talk) 14:10, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I might have a gander at it, anyone's life in the hands of Hook must be worth a read! I've been pretty busy with my dissertation on James Thomson so my Wikipedia activity has suffered! Thanks for the talk page compliment. It's been nice to be welcomed back into the community! Lord Foppington (talk) 01:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Singer categories again
The category reform is almost complete. From now on opera singers will be in two categories: Category:Operatic sopranos, Category:Operatic tenors etc. and Category:Belgian opera singers, Category:Belgian opera singers etc. The top categories of Category:Sopranos, Category:Tenors etc are now depopulated except for anomalies.

Of course the categorization doesn't cover oratorio and lieder. In my view there should be categories such as Category:Oratorio singers and Category:Lieder singers but they don't exist at present AFAIK. This would need to be checked out and explained on the relevant project - Classical music. Perhaps you'd like to do this for oratorio? I guess you're the most involved/concerned editor. Best. --Kleinzach (talk) 05:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * We've been using AWB to move the cats - and all voice types have been finished except Basses. I hope we have caught all your articles though our coverage is certainly not perfect.


 * As for interfacing with Classical music, it's amatter of taking the initiative as this project is not very active although it has a huge remit. I'd suggest something along the lines of  "Hello. Is anyone here working on oratorio articles? I'm thinking of making some new categories for non-opera singers. Does anyone have any experience/interest in this?"  and see whether you get any response. The only person I can remember working in this field was Fred Sienkiewicz - Handel I think - you might like to talk to him. Does this help? --Kleinzach (talk) 11:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Da Ponte
Hallo, deine Anfrage: ''Hi, Wetwasserman! Das Bild, das du zwei Jahre seit beigetragen hast, von Lorenzo da Ponte, war neulich bei admin User:ChristianBier (auch Benuetzer im Deutschen WP) zu dem neuen Namen Beaumarchais (neue Identifikation) umhergeziehen, sehe. Sehe auch hier. Aber das Bild steht immer im Artikel im Englischen Wikipedia von da Ponte. Kannst du sagen, bitte, wenn dies Bild wirklich von da Ponte oder von Beaumarchais sey? Dann kann ich sofort es bestaetigen oder ausstreichen im Artikel. Ist deine Quelle klaar oder war es ein Personverwachslung? Wenn du willst, bitte zu antworten (auf Deutsch oder Englisch) an meinem Diskussion-Seite im Englischen Wikipedia, hier. Mit vielen Dank und freundlichem Grussen, Dr Steven Plunkett 14:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)''

Es ist schon zu lange her, ich muss erst nachdenken und recherchieren, bevor ich Genaues sagen kann. Bitte gib mir etwas Zeit. --Wetwassermann (talk) 18:53, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Eebahgum,
 * now I'm sure. The picture shows Beaumarchais, look here. The picture is painted by Paul Constant SOYER after Jean-Baptiste GREUZE. You can find it at  Versailles ; musée national du château et des Trianons. Many regards --Wetwassermann (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Joseph Hislop
The only reason I deleted was because of the copyright violation. I'm sure the subject warrants an article, but the entire history of that one was a violation. --Golbez (talk) 21:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Mimi Coertse
Das Zitat von Countess Schönfelft vom März 1996 ist enthalten in: Helmuth Furch, .... Kammersängerin Mimi Coertse, eine Wienerin aus Südafrika, S 5-6, das Zitat von Karl Löbl, ebendort, S 31. Danke für Deine Hilfe. Helmuth Furch 21:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Composer names
Hello, thank you for your note. I don't think there is a Wikipedia standard. I have only been putting in links to specific pages where the link was previously to a disambiguation page like Frank Martin or Dvořák (which is a very common Czech surname). Sometimes it seemed sensible to add the first name also (when naming the composer: X was taught by Antonín Dvořák), and sometimes not (as in Dvořák's New World Symphony). The most important thing is to get accurate information into the articles, cited if possible, without worrying too much about format details! Keep up the good work. Best wishes, RobertG &#9836; talk 06:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response. I don't think missing the odd link to a dab page is "laziness"!  You posted interesting thoughts about singers.  I have no strong feelings, and more questions than answers.  I notice Category:Sopranos is a sub-category of Category:Opera singers, which sort of implies that all sopranos are necessarily opera singers - this seems very strange, since there exists the category Category:Operatic sopranos.  I would rather Category:Sopranos were renamed to Category:Classical sopranos to distinguish them from people like Mariah Carey who are a different category.  However, I long ago gave up on categories for discussion, which I now view as something of a Slough of Despond, and I now view Wikipedia categories altogether as of somewhat questionable utility.  Category:Lieder singers should perhaps exist and be described as "Classically trained singers who regularly perform(ed) Lieder".  It might include people like Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, Christine Schäfer, Anthony Rolfe Johnson, but it's not simple.  There are singers who are clearly "Lieder singers", but would you include for instance Thomas Allen who is probably primarily classified as an operatic singer but who made a volume for the Hyperion Schubert Edition?  Should there also be a Category:Lieder accompanists for people like Graham Johnson, Roger Vignoles and Gerald Moore - and would it include people like Alfred Brendel, who has accompanied Lieder?  Difficult!  Best wishes, RobertG &#9836; talk 14:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps our two brands of eventualism are two sides of the same coin? You state "Wikipedia's ideal Platonic form will never be realised in a finite universe", while I state "Wikipedia is in a constant state of necessarily partial but nevertheless somewhat useful completeness".  Best wishes and kind regards, RobertG &#9836; talk 09:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is indubitably less useful than it could be. Andrew Undershaft rationalises his amorality: "Remember the Armorer's Faith. I will take an order from a good man as cheerfully as from a bad one. [&hellip;] I can make cannons: I cannot make courage and conviction."  Just so here: Wikipedia (the Undershaft) can make articles (the cannon), but it cannot make honesty and gumption, either in its contributors or its readers.  Wikipedia will accept a contribution from (and divulge its content to) a good contributor as cheerfully as from (to) a bad one.  Calling me "recklessly optimistic" is the best thing anyone has said to me this week :-)   On a tangent, I speculate that human limitations render the whole universe (which is precisely "that perceived by humans") "incomplete", and even were we granted a glimpse of the Platonic Ideal Wikipedia&reg; we would therefore not recognise its absolute completeness .  By the way, I am indeed enjoying the sunshine - I just wish I were out in it!  Best wishes, RobertG &#9836; talk 11:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Guthrum II
Hello! I hope the weather is as nice as it is here. We've had more than a week of blue skies and sunshine. I should be out and about, not sitting in front of the computer! I have a problem with Guthrum II of "East Anglia". I left a note at the reference desk, but I'm not terribly optimistic. I don't want to keep you from enjoying the good weather, but perhaps you'd have an idea when Guthrum II became a historical non-person? All the best! Angus McLellan (Talk) 12:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Stevenson's edition of John's history is on Google books, here. Guthrum is mentioned on pages 543 and 545. On page 543 "Gitrus" or "Gytrus" is baptised by Alfred, and then he returned home "to his own country". On page 545 "Gytrus" is recalled by Edward and Æthelstan from Denmark and is *given* East Anglia. Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Age of Enlightenment
I agree. This occurred to me soon after I set off on my disambiguating way. And disambiguating 'Enlightenment' seemed such a Platonically ideal kind of task. William Avery (talk) 21:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. I have a few real-world things to attend to now, but will catch up tomorrow. William Avery (talk) 21:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Sizewell Hall removed link
Not sure if I should reply here or on my own talk page. I see your reasoning now about your link removal - as you saw I just thought you wanted to express the reference in full and hadn't meant to remove the link. In fact I hadn't noticed it was the same editor who put it in as took it out! I suppose my thinking is that for Wikipedia it is best to provide sources where possible, and if a source is available online then it is better to link to it. I don't think it is our place to decide whether things are prurient, nor to second-guess who might be reading the article and why. Having now read both the Guardian and the Paradigm articles properly (which I confess I had not done before; as I say I thought I was doing a mere "technical" edit) I think that the debate between them, whether prurient or not, is entirely irrelevant to the Sizewell Hall article. Perhaps the answer is just to list both references (since both mention the link with Sizewell Hall) without further comment, thus: If indeed you do think it is prurient, the more you draw attention to it the worse it is.

PS FWIW (which is of course nothing) it seems to me that the rhymes were written with "rude words" in as a sort of reward for the boys who could be bothered to translate what they were reciting. Young boys have always revelled in such words. You don't need to invent a whole gay subtext. Rachel Pearce (talk) 11:55, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

BasieBasieBasie!
Bastard to navigate - Better - Gareth E Kegg (talk) 18:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

E G Pretyman
You added some content about E. G. Pretyman to the "Colonel" George Tomline article. However, I notice that there is another article on Ernest George Pretyman who looks a bit similar and was the son of Rev. F. Pretyman. Of course that doesn't prevent him being the "Colonel's" heir but he would not need to vhange his name. Have you got mixed up?Cutler (talk) 14:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Oswald Menghin
Yes, indeed I did also patrol your page and I did not mark it with a notability tag or a deletion tag. Your welcome. Wikipedia has a higher standard for biographies and I did not see any intext citations. According to wikipedia guidelines such material can be immediately deleted, though generally I don't, even in bad cases I will sources that are dubious. Will it may seem like 'oh' how awful he tagged my page'. From the patrollers point of view one things, 'why didn't this guy use a personal sandbox and work on this article for more more than just a few minutes'. What is a personal sandbox: User:Eebahgum/Sandbox. And then next time you can work and save you edits on your new page, and in a day or 2 after you get citations and all the major stuff in the biography, you can create a mainpage and no-one will tag it (OK, so there is always a few hardcore taggers). BTW they are just tags, correct the problem in it takes a few seconds to remove them.PB666 yap 02:15, 4 August 2008 (UTC) The too short tag was removed although the lead could use another couple of sentences. If you have footnotes on the german article then just place them appropriately on text, if they have link-outs google does a decent job of translating pages.

11:33 o'clock jump
They shouldn't be blanking pages for a start, and just undo the tagging, with a link to WP:MUSIC, which shows that the Count surpasses all the set criteria. They might be annoyed that your brilliant articles don't look like standard albums. Cut and paste one like this (which I made!), and All Music Guide or that Japanese website can be your cite. I'll try and tidy a few :) Gareth E Kegg (talk) 10:33, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice
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petroglyphs
hello good sir, great to hear from you. St John he of Rattlesden is coming back soon attached to the Curator that runs the dating service! Could be interesting or interesting and bloody... Wikimania, sounds great, like you if I can help i will if not I will not. Neither of us promise what we cannot deliver so no problem there. Now after your success in sagas and Anglo Saxons on paper what's the attraction of stone and rock. Take Care Edmund Patrick – confer 18:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Figuig
Merci pour votre message, de m'avoir "retrouvé" - et une fois encore pour l'intérêt que vous prenez à ces modestes articles préhistoriques algériens. Excusez-moi de ne pas écrire anglais, malgré une lointaine ascendance (mon "Bernard" est d'origine anglaise) mais comme vous écrivez (aussi) en français, j'en profite. Je souhaiterais introduire l'image ou  de l'article en anglais ( dans l'article en français ( mais je n'y arrive pas : can you ? En toute sympathie, User:Michel-georges bernard, 02.09.08 15h32 —Preceding undated comment was added at 13:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK

 * Congrats and thanks for the note. I responded on my talk page.  00:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Sutton Hoo
Feel free to contact me. Cheers Jeremy Gilbert aka Canada Jack Toronto, Canada Canada Jack (talk) 15:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm (Tossy Spivakovsky)
Heh. Well, this is where I got that snippet of info from, and it's also mentioned in the Australian Dictionary of Biography source (see Bibliography - G. Yost). Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 00:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

You're a psychic!
Hi Eebahgum, just letting you know that you're on the Category:Psychics page thanks to your sandbox still having Florizel von Reuter's bio. Cheers, Julia Rossi (talk) 04:03, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't know why it does that – spooky. Best for the dyk, :) Julia Rossi (talk) 22:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Best wishes of the season
I do hope you and yours are well and that life is treating you kindly. All the very best for the festive season and for 2009! Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:24, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for the greetings. What an interesting year ahead it could be, what with boundary commissions, St John of ...; and everything else in this big world! What was that saying about the curse of living in interesting times. I wish you a great festive season and a brilliant 2009. Edmund Patrick – confer 07:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Return good wishes
Thanks for your message, and double good wishes in return. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 18:54, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Et ceci, en complément :. En toute sympathie,WP fr. Utilisateur:Michel-georges bernard, 06.04.09, 09h21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.170.124.28 (talk) 07:22, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

many thanks
many thanks for the chicken, not something I have eaten in a long while which makes the sentiments even more special. Our finds officer (C.M.) came across a site that mentioned an article about a certain museum service being engulfed by another museum service. He had missed that it was taken / copied from Wiki and we both appreciated going through the history of the page. Life continues bouncing from one new priority to another, multi tasking but rarely completing one thing to satisfaction. I hope the gods and goddesses are treating you well. Edmund Patrick – confer 18:06, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

devambez
New experience trying to write you on your Talk. I hope im not making another mistake! You have done a great job! Thank you so much. I think it's a great idea to write on all these great artists. Now I have to improve the text on the French wikipedia. Have a nice day. Superstudio (talk) 07:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi again, Your idea to develop a Chimot article is very good. I took the text from Devambez and have created a new Edouard Chimot article. Please, when you have a chance, give me your feeling. Bonne journée.. Superstudio (talk) 07:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You have done another miracle with Chimot! Superstudio (talk) 16:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Its great to add neil link to his blog. Neil and I have written the Devambez text together. His blog is beautiful Superstudio (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ive a small concern, when one is typing chimot on the wikipedia search engine our article is not showing, what should we do? Superstudio (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Bonjour Eebahgum,I hope you are well. I really need your help. Neil has sent me a long list of footnotes and links and I have no clue, how to introduce them in the wikipedia text and what is the wikipedia rules regarding this issue.

Can you please help me? Devambez footnotes: (Transferred by Eebahgum to Devambez article & Talk:Devambez) Thank you so much for your time and consideration. This morning I got an email from a Gus Bofa expert! Superstudio (talk) 12:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You have no idea how much I appreciate your support. Its a first since a very long time that I got so much help and one is not asking for something in return. I guess its the Wikipedia spirit. You took the time to explain me every details. Now I will practice. I told Neil that I thought it was not a good idea to have all the links to idburyprints because one might think that we are using wikipedia for selling the prints. We might try to write a small article on each artists but it will be a long work. Speak soon. Superstudio (talk) 07:55, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Bonjour Eebahgum, I trust you are well. I have worked on the French Wikipedia. I think it looks as good as the English one! Can you please give me your feedback when you have a chance. Thanks Superstudio (talk) 09:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Jean Pougnet
Do you have any information on Rene Pougnet, who at one time was quite a well-known performer of light music, mostly in collaboration with the better-known composer-pianist Clive Richardson. David Peacham (talk) 18:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Which Hooker?
Thanks for adding the link in William Kirby (entomologist). You updated the text to point to W. J. Hooker instead of J. D. Hooker and then linked to the former. Looking at the dates for the two (father and son) I strongly suspect that your update is correct, but do you have a reference for this change? If so, perhaps we should add the reference to the article. There is no explicit ref for J.D., either, but I think it might have been in the original Britannica article. If so, a better ref is really needed. (Note: merely adding the link was very powerful and useful. This is what Wikipedi is all about, and it allows a general reader to ask questions of this sort.) Of course, Kirby may have been introduced by both Hookers, the son being younger than 20 at the time. -Arch dude (talk) 11:51, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Based on your comment, yes, a better ref is a good idea, but the prior content is known to be wrong adn was itself unreferences, so let's leave it. -Arch dude (talk)

Catching up
Hi, it has indeed been a long time, I don't come on here much anymore but I still potter around every now and again. The reason for getting back in touch is that I am now researching my first local history book and whilst researching in the Ipswich records office this morning I happened to have need for some work by Nina Layard (I am researching the Ipswich Martyrs), no prizes for guessing who's edited collection helped me out there. Thanks!--Edchilvers (talk) 14:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Great to hear from you but not so great to hear you have been unwell, I sincerely hope you are back to full health as soon as possible. I don't use Wikipedia so much for my research as I am unsure as to the reliability of some fields and the quality does tend to vary, mostly I am down the Suffolk records office. I am actually trying to complete a history of the Ipswich Martyrs Memorial - I see you did quite a bit of work on the wiki article yourself, I am going through the East Anglian Daily Times archives at the records office for 1902/3 reading about the controversy and debate which surrounded the memorial around the time it was built, and put it in the wider context of religious tensions at the time. Fortunately my legal issues on Wikipedia are for the most part cleared up and try to stay away from controversy as much as possible these days! --Edchilvers (talk) 16:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I've also found a very interesting correspondance between Nina and John Glyde which took place in the letters section of the EADT in early 1903 in which Glyde argues against erecting the monument at all pointing to past Protestant oppression and basically saying that at times both denominations have been as bad as the other. Sadly for Nina she rather slips up on this one by suggesting that there were no Catholic martyrs in Ipswich, she forgets about 'Blessed John Robinson,' who was hung drawn and quartered in the reign of Elizabeth I! At least she manages to keep her disagreement with Glyde civil though as opposed to some of her supporters who write in calling Glyde 'repulsive' and accusing him of 'gross abuse!' --Edchilvers (talk) 17:36, 19 August 2009 (UTC)