User talk:Efmcleanckm

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WikiProject for Librarians
Take a look at WikiProject Libraries -- sign up, and monitor their talk page. That's a good place to leave questions or comments about what you're doing. –SJ + 16:48, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Other related projects:
 * WikiProject Museums
 * WP:GLAM - notes for Libraries, Museums, Archives and other cultural institutions.

Thank you sj! I have been using the WP:GLAM along with work that the British Museum (Liam Wyatt) has been doing in this area. Efmcleanckm (talk) 18:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Setting citation style for museums and archives

 * Manual of Style (visual arts) -- this visual arts style note doesn't address a lot of things: When/how to introduce an inline cite, when/how to introduce an inline thumbnail or page-shot of a primary source, and the citation format for such things -- including materials in a collection at the WDL but owned by a different institution. –SJ + 16:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

The Library WikiProject may be interested in the above; so will the GLAM wikiproject:

ok as of 10/8/2010- here is where we are with our citation style for external links pertaining to WDL / Partners:


 * World Digital Library presentation of 黄帝内经素问 or The Su Wen of the Huangdi Neijing. National Library of China. Primary source book with summary description and 67 images with enhanced view and zoom features, text to speech capability. Chinese. Links to related content. Content available as .pdf.  Wang Bing's Jin dynasty edition. The earliest printed edition of The Su Wen.

Efmcleanckm (talk) 13:17, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

External link style comments
Be careful with right-to-left text when pasting in a line -- doublecheck that it comes out the way you intend.

Explain that you are linking to full online versions of the source material. That's not normally what people link to, and it's a wonderful part of the WDL. If you're going to include mention when there is an audio recording of a page's text, do it for all materials -- and clarify that audio of a curator's notes, not audio of the piece itself.
 * It would be appropriate to add an extra half-sentence about each piece to clarify exactly what it is -- say "Full pdf of the original manuscript and curator's audio comments."

When adding general further reading or primary source material rather than a cite for a specific fact, you don't need to include a "Retrieved on" clause. If you were citing a specific datum from a curator's comments, then a "Retrieved on" would be appropriate. –SJ + 21:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

LOC Context
For topics such as Naxi scripts, where the LOC has an entire collection, it helps to provide some context for a specific WDL entry. For instance, there is already an external link to a page describing the LOC scripts collection (which doesn't link to the gorgeous WDL piece!). If you can put those two refs into context, it will help readers find what they want right away, and make better use of the WDL work. –SJ + 21:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply; leaving me a note in my talk page is appropriate! –SJ +  19:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Gregorian calendar
I wanted to let you know I reverted your EL addition at Gregorian calendar only because the document to which you linked is in Spanish; being a non-English text, it can't be expected to be a lot of use to readers of the English wikipedia; it would be fine to add on the Spanish wikipedia, though. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 23:24, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Format
Hello again! Yes, you should add this to the GLAM wikiproject talk. Cheers, –SJ +  01:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

* World Digital Library presentation of original language title or translation of title. Partner Institution. Primary source {item type} with summary description, {#} images with enhanced view and zoom features, text to speech capability {with curator video}. {Language(s) of the source}. Links to related content. Content available as {file format). {Brief statement of notability.}

Helping to build the encyclopedia
Dear Efm,

If you would only take another minute to add context when adding a link, your contributions would be vastly more helpful and illustrative.

For instance, your link on the Gregorian calendar page:
 * 1) Explain the relevance and notability of the link.
 * "A four-page edict issued by King Phillip II of Spain in 1584, decreeing the change from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar. Produced by Italian typographer Antonio Ricardo, who helped the Jesuits in Lima establish the first printing office in South America."
 * 1) If the connection is not clear from the text of the article, add a sentence about it in the article under the relevant section, along with a footnote.
 * "King Phillip II of Spain decreed a change to the Gregorian calendar in 1584.[1]"
 * "King Phillip II of Spain decreed a change to the Gregorian calendar in 1584.[1]"

A footnote in context is more useful than a raw external link, and with it you are adding more meaningfully to the encyclopedia. Making wikilinks out of proper names and significant concepts likewise helps people find this article when browsing related topics.

In most cases, the linked LOC page already has good text introducing the link, so you don't need to do a lot of new writing yourself.

Regards, –SJ + 02:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

World Digital Library add like links
I would just like to point out that your edits of this nature are being reverted because peole think there adds...I have fixed a few to removed the personal and instructive dialogue. This would not be appropriate as per External links. So i will help fix them were i can before there deleted because they are useful. Hope we did not loose to many to people who did not see the value of the link and just saw the wording. Moxy (talk) 01:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Great work since October~ It looks like your recent work has all been received well.  Congrats on working out the initial kinks.  Have you gathered data on the Library's end regarding how many people have viewed the original articles?  Have you received any direct comments on the inclusion of these works in Wikipedia?   Regards, –SJ +  07:51, 21 February 2011 (UTC)