User talk:Efrenespinosa

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A tag has been placed on Efren espinosa, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. — Řÿūłóñģ ( 竜龍 ) 19:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Efren Espinosa
Some of the people, places or things you have written about may not be sufficiently well-known to merit articles of their own. The Wikipedia community welcomes newcomers. On Wikipedia, all users are entitled to a user page in which they can describe themselves, and this article's content may be incorporated into that page. However, to merit inclusion in the encyclopedia proper, a subject must be notable. We encourage you to write or improve articles on notable subjects. -WarthogDemon 04:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Espinosa
This is a user page that has been transferred to the main Wiki. Please do not add un-encyclopeadic content to Wikipedia. Happy editing. xCentaur | talk  18:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Billy Thermal
Your contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated. Please consider formatting your edits, to make them more viewer friendly. Cheers! xCentaur | talk  18:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

efren
Hi, i've made efren espinosa again. Please do take a look. Haven't seen any edits from you in a while... whats going on nowadays? Busy with recording?  xCentaur | talk  11:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Issues over Efren
First off, your username is confusing. Are you the real Efren? If you're not, then please make that clear on your userpage. Secondly, the page Efren espinosa has been deleted again. I suggest you give a few urls to back-up notability,and post a message on the talk page stating why it should *not* be deleted.  xCentaur | talk  18:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:
No problem.

But the page was deleted again, and as of now I don't think I can do much about it. The bands you were in, and their albums, those pages would have to be beefed up. Then move to add more stuff to the members, and then your page comes up. That would take care of the notability issue.

Of course, if you could put some picture of yourself with Billy or something of the sort, that would prove you are the real Efren as well.

Other than that, right now, I think its doubtful the page EE would be allowed to stay. How about taking the entire thing as your pet project? I'm sure you can find legitimate references,pictures and whatnot for the pages. Take EE,Thermal,Steinberg and related pages under your wing and expand.

Think about it. Its do-able. Cheers, and merry christmas!

xCentaur | talk  14:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Re
I'm sad to hear you say that. Please don't give up so easily.

"Never attribute to malice that which could be due to stupidity" "Forgive them O Lord, for they know not what they do"

Ever heard of those?

Come on, these are pages related to you and your history. You can't just give it up this way. Those editors don't know what they've removed. But most people don't know about most things. Thats how it is. Wikipedia needs people like you. Our community is looking for people who can tell things the way they are, to the whole world.

xCentaur | talk  07:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:
I appreciate what you've said. I just turned 17, two months back .... and its hard to not be cynical when you see things like this happening around you. Once in a while, stuff happens that makes you keep at it. Your note is one of those small sweet things that do make a difference. Thanks

I'll be looking forward to your music, Efren. Wish you all the best!

xCentaur | talk  18:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)