User talk:Egl.marketing

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Egl.marketing/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be blatant advertising which only promotes or publicises a company, product, group or service, and which is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages; user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

If you can indicate why the page is not blatant advertising, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion  tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy deletion candidate). Doing so will take you to your user talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also edit this page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would help make it encyclopedic. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. ₪ Stormmeteo   Message  21:17, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * RE: User name change - To change your user name visit Changing username/Simple, also you can check if the user name you want is available by clicking this link Special:ListUsers. Best regards &#8362; Stormmeteo   Message  21:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I see you have been blocked, follow the instructions in the block note under ;What can I do now?. &#8362; Stormmeteo   Message  21:53, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended for publicity and/or promotional purposes. If you intend to edit constructively in other topic areas, you may be granted the right to continue under a change of username. Please read the following carefully.

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, website or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but such groups are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.
 * Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Probably not, although if you can demonstrate a pattern of future editing in strict accordance with our neutral point of view policy, you may be granted this right. See Wikipedia's FAQ for Organizations for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, organization, or clients. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit Wikipedia again.
 * Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?


 * What can I do now?

If you have no interest in writing about some other topic than your organization, group, company, or product, you may consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead. If you do intend to make useful contributions here about some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:


 * Add the text on your user talk page.
 * Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
 * Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text below, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:45, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

unblock request
I'm not sure what I need to do to demonstrate that I understand the conflict of interest policy. As I mentioned, my article would be no different in tone than that of Emory University. The article will be educational and updated with educational materials that would be interesting to Wiki readers. There will be no promotional content. If I'm unblocked, I would be able to edit the article so that you can see there is no promotion and if it still doesn't meet Wiki criteria, I could revise it again. Wiki says they work with people to ensure that articles are compliant so I'm asking for the opportunity to do that.

unblock request
Two things:
 * 1) Have you read WP:REALNAME? It would be a bad idea for you to start using your real initials as your username without reading that page first — it's permitted, but it can have unintended consequences, so you should only use your real initials as your username after thinking about it a little.
 * 2) I'm still rather concerned by your intentions. Frankly, the conflict-of-interest policy is downright hard to understand, and it's easy to get the wrong impression of our expectations from it.  Please read Suggestions for COI compliance, which is much simpler to understand.  You'll note that it doesn't really talk about creating pages about subjects with which you have a conflict of interest; that's partly because doing such a thing is just almost always a bad idea.  As long as you're creating neutral and educational articles about things to which you're unrelated, that's great; is that what you were meaning?  Yes, most of the easiest articles are taken care of, but we have tons of subjects on which you can write; for example, Georgia has over two thousand federal historic sites, and just about all of them either have no article or have an article that really needs help.  So in short, as long as you want to write about unrelated subjects and you understand the possible ramifications of using your real initials, I'll probably unblock you.  Nyttend (talk) 05:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

continued conversation with moderator
I guess I need to change my username then to something else. Thank you for alerting me to that issue. May I request LEO14? Regarding the subject matter, I'm in the field of genetics, which is why I was wanting to write an article on a lab here in Atlanta, GA: Emory Genetics Laboratory (EGL). As Wiki users read and add to the article, I think the focus will be more around genetic medicine and genetic research, which is what Emory Genetics Laboratory does, but again I don't see the focus being on EGL. I would love the opportunity to resubmit the article for review before trying to publish it, if that would alleviate your concerns. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egl.marketing (talk • contribs)


 * There are a couple of issues right now:
 * you already have an active unblock request, with a requested username. From that point on you simply need to reply to the conversation, and not create additional unblock templates - you're only permitted one at a time.  If you have decided that it's not the name you want, replace it above in the blue unblock request, don't create a new request
 * you're clearly stating that you intend to continue to create an article about Emory Genetics Lab - which is contrary to WP:COI and WP:PROMO. You work in marketing for that organization - and that's not permitted.  If you intend to edit ANY article to which you're related, you're not likely to be unblocked.  Genetics labs have strict ethics codes - I'd expect their marketing folks to abide by that code as well, and this is quite obviously an ethical concept
 * D P  11:46, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Dear Moderator. Pardon my lack of understanding regarding the name change; I wasn't given confirmation that the name change had been approved so I thought it was necessary to request it again. Regarding the page, I can't find it now, but I did read somewhere that Wiki does allow company pages, though they are discouraged from containing any promotional content. As stated, there will be no promotional content. I also read that Wiki works with writers to bring pages into compliance, but I have not been given a chance to submit my content for approval. We're part of Emory University, a major academic university, and our content would be in-line with the content of the university. Wiki is about teaching and information-sharing and that is all I'm trying to do. I'm not clear why I'm not being allowed to demonstrate that the article is non-promotional and of interest to Wiki users. I'm asking for the chance to demonstrate the content is Wiki-compliant and I'm not being given an opportunity to do it.

Here is the section to which I'm referring: First, see the question directly above this one. If your organization is notable enough to deserve an article, and you wish to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest, the best thing to do is to provide any useful sources and request that an independent editor create the article. Specifically: 1.On your user page, disclose your relationship to the organization. 2.Go to Wikipedia:Requested articles and find a category under which to list your request. 3.Describe the very basics of what your company is, no more than a couple of lines, and avoid puffery. Be up-front about your conflict of interest by mentioning it in the request. 4.Find at least two independent reliable sources that have substantial information about the topic, and provide links to them in the request. Your own organization's material about itself does not count as such a source. 5.Optionally, find a WikiProject related to your organization's campaigns, products or services, if one exists. On the WikiProject's talk page, post a link to your request, and make sure to mention your relationship to the company so the person who creates the article understands where the request is coming from. If the topic has promise, a member of the WikiProject (or any editor that regularly responds to article requests) may start an article in article space based on your sources. Keep in mind that due to the nature of Wikipedia and its community, being honest in your relationship with your company will increase the chances of your article being improved by the community, rather than deleted.[1]It may be helpful to create a draft of an article in a user subpage, for example here. You can also submit a draft through the Wikipedia:Article wizard, if you feel strongly that you can meet the requirements of neutrality and sourcing. However, be aware that even in a user subpage or through the article wizard, advertising is forbidden, so you should not create a draft unless you are reasonably certain you can do so within Wikipedia's expectations. Do not be surprised if such a draft ends up deleted as advertising, and be willing to adjust your approach.If you have little or no experience with editing on Wikipedia, please realize that starting new articles that are not soon removed can be very difficult for new users. Wikipedia has a lot of policies and guidelines that are not very obvious and may trip up new users who start from a blank page. The result is that we delete many articles from Wikipedia every day; see Why was my page deleted? A gentler introduction to Wikipedia is to begin by making small edits to existing articles, to gain experience and understanding before adding new articles, and to demonstrate a good faith interest in helping the Wikipedia project and not just your own organization. See our Cleanup and Maintenance pages for lists of articles that need work. You may also request adoption by an experienced user who will help you learn to edit productively here. If you can find a similar organization that already has an article about it, then examine its style and tone and its wikisource and use that as a model for building your article. Take your time and build your article in a page under your own userpage. When you are ready, have an experienced editor review it and then deploy it by copying it into as a regular article with an appropriate article title.
 * I have been forced to decline: you're clearly not reading about COI. Many of us have tried to help you and guide you, but you seem to believe that you have a right to violate key policies - this is a private website - as someone else recently stated, "your house, your rules".  D  P  12:19, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I did read the policies you referenced and I'm not sure why my responses have solicited such harsh, insulting words from you. But as you said, your house, your rules. Please delete all login requests.