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Your submission at Articles for creation: Hindu economic system (December 26)
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FeralOink (talk) 22:43, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Hindu economic system has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Hindu economic system. Thanks! SwisterTwister  talk  22:46, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

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Third-party

 * Hello Kautilya3, Doesn't Economic Times, Times of India qualify: A third-party source is not affiliated with the event, not paid by the people who are involved, and not otherwise likely to have a conflict of interest or significant bias related to the material.? Can you point me to specific phrase that disqualifies them -- to say what Mr Beans think about the Mr Beans show (that is a limited view for a limited perspective). --Ekvastra (talk) 13:09, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The sources are third-party publications, but the views you have included in the article are those of the staff of the Organiser, not third-party views. If you include third-party views, and add the views of the Organiser for balance, that would be acceptable. But you added an entire section with only the views of the Organiser. That is WP:UNDUE and goes against the principles of Wikipedia. The news articles say, for example, that the Organiser is normally thought of as a "mouthpiece" of the RSS. That would be a third party view, which you have chosen to exclude. - Kautilya3 (talk) 19:31, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay. How to integrate it? The article already says that, so how to present the published opinion of the editor? It should be attributed to him, I understand, and not presented as a fact, and should not be in a separate section also. Right now it excludes these opinion altogether. --Ekvastra (talk) 01:08, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You can't. Self-denials are needed only when there is an overwhelming amount of criticism from third party sources (something like 5-10 sentences of criticism, balanced by one sentence of self-denial). In this case, there isn't such criticism. No self-denials can be included.
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I moved your !vote (but didn't alter it)
Hi. Just to let you know I've moved your vote on the Hawkeye RfA to place it in chronological order. In things like that, we add our votes at the end of the relevant section. It's nothing to worry about: I haven't altered what you said and moving it won't change its effect. Regards, --Stfg (talk) 13:37, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

About geonotice
Geonotice --naveenpf (talk) 11:21, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Vivek Agnihotri
Hi Ekvastra, could you point out which part of the content that you removed from my profile seems loaded and biased to you? I'd have to agree that the citation I gave was from a blog... but there seems to have been new media coverage of the incident since, and I'd like it if his Wikipedia page showed that he and his team have treated the student of Jadavpur University unfairly and has come up with false accusations against them. I do not think I have a biased viewpoint on the matter. Is it possible that you are misunderstanding and/or jumping to unwarranted conclusions?

I think that is not good practice to delete somebody else's content purely on grounds that you disagree with them/find them biased. Discourse on the issue in question is still in underway and there is significant difference in opinion among media groups and journalists. As such, I'd be delighted if Agnihotri's Wikipedia page doesn't "take a side" and label him as either a victim or a culprit. But if somebody (with a twitter page OPENLY preaching right-wing propaganda, if I may add -- and no, this isn't you) adds content to the page that shows the lef-wing in an unwarrantedly negative light, I would feel bound to ensure that the page shows both sides of the equation. Does this sound reasonable? --sdnomlA 07:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Please share your references. Thanks. --Ekvastra (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

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