User talk:ElEditordeWiki

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 * Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.     Thank you. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:23, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Discuss things
This is a collaborative effort; discussion of disputed material is required if you want it to remain in the article. Multiple editors have reverted your edits to the lead paragraph of Mexico City. Whether or not your re-addition of the material occurs 3 times in a 24 hour period or not, you are edit warring. Please discuss your additions on the talk page of the article before adding them again. If you reinsert them without prior discussion, I will block this account from editing in order to prevent disruption. --Floquenbeam (talk) 11:22, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Floquenbeam,

Thank you very much for the message you sent me regarding the article on Mexico City. And thank you for offering me the opportunity to discuss the material I have on numerous occasions had to re-enter as a result of it being repeatedly removed without valid reason.

Here is the situation from my perspective. As you can see by looking at the current version of such article (as of 1:18 am Eastern Standard Time), there is a sentence that reads:

"It is the most important political, cultural, and economic center in the country. "

If you notice my previous edits, I have broken down the above claim into two parts: 1) the part that claims that it is the most important political center in the country, for which support is provided immediately above the claim, i.e. "it is the current seat of the Powers of the Union;" and 2) the part that claims that it is the most important economic and cultural center in the country. This part has absolutely no reference supporting it. In fact, on various occasions I have requested that a reference be entered to back up such claim. And as far as I am concerned (you might be able to verify this), no one has ever supported this claim with a verifiable reference.

Following Wikipedia's rules, I have offered a different view to the second part of this claim. And I have provided verifiable references to support my view. Specifically, I have offered a view that counter-argues the claim that it is the most important economic center in the country by pointing out that, as the federal distric, which belongs to the entire federation, this city receives financial aid from the Mexican federal Congress, which is controlled by the 31 Mexican states. I have provided a specific example by pointing out that the head of government of this city recently asked the federal government for the return of the tortibono program (tortilla coupon program), a federal government funded program that for an extended period of time allowed a substantial number of the inhabitants of this city to eat tortillas for free. My external reference to support my view follows: Kindly note that the above reference is for an article associated with Televisa, one of the two major television networks in Mexico. Therefore, the reference is not only verifiable, but it is also from a reputable source. I understand that it is in Spanish, but, as you will be able to notice by going over the list of references in this article, many of the references in this article are in Spanish.

I also offer a counter-argument to the second part of the claim that states that this city is the most important cultural center in the country (which has never been supported by a reference.) My counter-argument is that this Mexican city, unlike two other Mexican cities, has never been named American Capital of Culture. To support my counter-argument, I provide an external third-party, verifiable reference, which follows:

Invariably, however, my view, counter-argument and associated third-party, external, verifiable references are always removed (which may constitute vandalism.) And, not surprisingly, the same unsupported, reference-lacking claim that this city is the most imporant economic and cultural center in the country is re-entered.

Given that, as per comments entered by numerous users in the discussion section of this article, such as those entered by user Thelmadatter, who maintains " this page is changed so frequently and vandalized", I would like to recommend that this article be DELETED, as it puts Wikipedia in utter disrepute.

Thank you again for giving me the opportunity to discuss the material I have entered adhering to Wikipedia's rules, as well as for your consideration regarding the DELETION of this low quality article.

Sincerely,

ElEditordeWiki (talk) 05:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, we aren't going to delete the Mexico City article. If you have changes that keep getting reverted, by multiple people, then discuss it on the article's talk page.  If that doesn't solve things, follow other suggestions in WP:DR.  --Floquenbeam (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2010 (UTC)