User talk:El C/Sam Spade apology

my apologies
I see that you have left. I admit that almost made me happy for a moment. However, after some reflection (and admittedly conversation with persons whom I respect), I have realised this is a bad thing. While we havn't gotten along well for a long time, and I assume you have a rather ugly opinion of me from how we have interacted, you have a number of friends here. Overall, your interactions with other wikipedians were overwhelmingly positive (I should know, I have your talkpage on my watchlist). Me chasing you off, particularly in a circumstance such as this one, is not a positive occurance, neither for me personally, nor for the community as a whole.

I apologise, formally and without reservation, for having placed you on that list. It was inaccurate, and done due to anger, rather than rational contemplation. Due to how things have played out since then, I feel that list is unhelpful, and have asked for it to be deleted. We may disagree about alot of things, but I am going to try to avoid confronting you. I will still consent to mediation if you prefer, but I will certainly not insist on it. I ask you to return, you were a good editor, and a benefit to the project.

Sam Spade 23:46, 30 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Alright, I accept your apology and I hereby return. I don't want to sound ungraceful, so I will not expend words beyond that at this point (esp. wrt some of the criticisms levied against you), but for the record, my protest had as much to do with some editors focusing exclusively on the signature, while ignoring the personal injustice committed against myself. And that was very hurtful to me. I want to thank all those who stood up for me, and who appealed to my better judgment throughout this stressful time, your support was invaluable and I will not forget it. Finally, the film I watched was Red Beard, which I highly recommend as one of the masterpieces of modern cinema. El_C 02:21, 31 May 2005 (UTC)


 * YAY! Welcome back! Welcome back! Kim Bruning 07:22, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Kim. It has been an exciting three days! El_C 07:28, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi. You probably have no idea who I am, but I just wanted to pop by to say that I'm glad that you haven't let SS drive you out of here. We need editors like you, while I'm in the minority who believe that we could live happily without him. At the very least, having a Grateful Dead lyric on your user page makes you one of the good people, in my books. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:29, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Filiocht! No, our love won't fade away! I'm seeing the Allman Bros. this month, and Warren Haynes is back on lead guitar! (yet Gvt. Mule is on tour right now, I'm sure there's a perfectly scientific explantion) :) El_C 08:52, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * [insert jealous noises] Enjoy. In my rural Irish backwater, I rarely get to see any good gigs. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:55, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

If I didn't like them, there's a reasonable joke to be had about your missing the "e" out of the "Allman Bors", but I suppose I'll have to wait for someone else to make it... Doh! Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 09:11, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Emberassing typo! The Allman Brothers Band are anything but that! El_C 11:37, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Two things: Hurrah for the brevity of your exit; Hurrah for SS's apology; Hurrah for your courteous acceptance; Oops! That's three things. [Note to Mel: NPOV requires that only an Allman fan can make that joke]. --Theo (Talk) 10:13, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the hurrahs (plural) ! El_C 11:37, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

hullo El C -- I may have missed a thing or two, but you didn't actually consider leaving the project because Sam featured you on that stupid list, now, did you? In any case, cheers for showing the format of accepting an apology, and keep up the good work. cheers, dab (ᛏ) 10:19, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * As a form of protest, absolutely I was prepared to. Thanks! El_C 11:37, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

YAY! Che's back! El, you had every right to be angry, and upset by the lack of support. We are a community here, and we should support each other. "You have my bow". --Elven ally Hewwo 10:48, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you, yes, that was exactly the point behind my protest. To change things for the better, sacrifices need to be made, there is no other way. But had it not been to my loyal supporters and friends, it would have amounted to nothing. El_C 11:37, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

I also am glad to see you back and reverting vandalism. Thanks!!! Trödel| talk 12:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)