User talk:El cid, el campeador/Archive 4

Notability
From the Essay WP:USCITIES "To be included in a list of notable people, individuals must still meet the notability requirements per WP:PEOPLE. A fast and easy way to establish this is if they already have an article written about them on Wikipedia, since it would have never been approved, or would have been deleted, if they did not meet notability requirements. This is not the sole rationale for inclusion, since some people who might meet notable standards may not have an article, but it is a quick reference."--Asher196 (talk) 15:18, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * - look, if you want to include the clearly non-notable trick shot pool player who you likely know personally, go ahead. I'm done arguing with you about it. Just leave me out of it. Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  15:37, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm just making a point that an article is not required for notability since you were so insistent that it was. Also, you accused me of being disruptive, and I don't take kindly to that.--Asher196 (talk) 16:00, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ideological bias on Wikipedia
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Archiving
I manually archived Talk:Iron Man because User:MiszaBot doesn't work anymore and hasn't for years now (and that's why I removed the code as well). FYI - the WOLF  child  02:34, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * - hey! Sorry about that. I did not notice until after I reverted that the bot wasn't working. I rolled myself back after I did. Cheers! ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  16:40, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Review page
Hi. Review the Sheena Allen page. Cheers

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NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers. Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
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Here is an article you can help me with
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percs ColorTheoryRGB (talk) 00:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Sumo
Can you stop flagging the Sumo article and help me add to it? ColorTheoryRGB (talk) 23:53, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for removing the notice. At least can you help me add to the Sumo article?ColorTheoryRGB (talk) 23:56, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hey, I added some sources to the page. I also unreviewed it - a 3rd party, uninvolved editor may now come and see if it passes inclusion criteria. The biggest thing to remember on WP is that you need to provide reliable sources for anything you add to WP. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  00:05, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome. And also check the other messages I sent you. ColorTheoryRGB (talk) 00:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

A NOTE
Oh, and can you help with my Sirens and Black Metal Terrorist, and Clout Cobain articles? You have hospitality. ColorTheoryRGB (talk) 00:13, 31 July 2018 (UTC) OK. ColorTheoryRGB (talk) 01:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * - when I have time later I will try and take a look at these articles you created. Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  01:39, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

66 & nowhere
When there's a draft duplicating an article, we normally emove the draft, not the article. If Iahve misunderstood, pls explain it to me on m talk p.  DGG ( talk ) 17:52, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

WP:PACKERS
Hey El cid! Not sure if you are still interested, but I have made some effort to get WP:PACKERS a little more active. It would be great to have a few editors interested in the Pack to coordinate improvements. Hope all is well! « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 17:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm down, that sounds like a great idea! I will check out the WikiProject now. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  02:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Awesome! I mostly tried to get all of the tools working and cleaned up. The article alerts, stats, new pages, etc. I have Packers sweep at WP:GAN and List of Green Bay Packers retired numbers at WP:FLC. Really just want to work on WP:FLs, WP:GAs, and WP:DYKs. Let me know if there is anything you want to collaborate on. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @ 04:12, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * - as I get more time I'm planning on going through and making sure Packers is sufficiently cited, so I can remove the template on top. After that it -should- be ready to be nominated for good article status? I've never really been involved in nominating though. Is there anything I can do to help with Packers sweep or the Retired numbers? Just let me know. Cheers, it's good to see the project being active! ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  17:58, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Replied here. « Gonzo fan2007   (talk)  @ 18:06, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Amy Tan
Hello. I disagree with you that my edits were pushing a point of view. I was only restating and summarizing what was in the corresponding criticism section. Sawnew (talk) 21:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * - please start a discussion on the article's talk page regarding this issue, so we can get other people involved in the conversation ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  21:06, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I have started the discussion. Sawnew (talk) 21:19, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

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Hathaway's Flash
No, my removal of the redirect wasn't constructive, but keeping the redirect isnt constructive either. The redirect of Mobile Suit Gundam: Hathaway's Flash to Yoshiyuki Tomino's page is a very useless move. Yoshiyuki created the Gundam series, sure, but not once is "Hathaway's Flash" even mentioned in the article, and so it's unnecessary to redirect a page to his. That's why I removed it. Sarcataclysmal (talk) 02:48, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.


 * Project news
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 * As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.


 * There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See New pages patrol/Coordination for more info to see if you can help out.


 * Other
 * A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.


 * Moving to Draft and Page Mover
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 * If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
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NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
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 * There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.


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Kettle war
I changed it because it was Called the kettle war because that is the only thing damaged/broken Pedropostman (talk) 16:57, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Ted Hawkins edits
Thanks a lot for these. Great work. ―Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:55, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * - It's my pleasure! Thanks for the recognition :) Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  23:22, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bootleg Series
Sorry about mistaking the topic of the AfDs. The PRODded article (about 10K of text) was on the Bob Dylan albums, however. It had the rationale "All of the information is covered at the respective album articles--all that's needed is a mention at Bob Dylan." Would you like me to refund the PRODded version? Dekimasu よ! 20:28, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * - hey, no worries! I... just didn't really think it through. I wanted it to serve mainly as a DAB page, but didn't consider that links to DAB pages need to be disambiguated. It was my mistake and right now I think it's fine as a redirect. Thanks for following up! And sorry that you probably got a notice that I reverted your edit. Best! ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  20:58, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
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KF Llapi squad listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect KF Llapi squad. Since you had some involvement with the KF Llapi squad redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Stefan2 (talk) 21:46, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

ElSidCampeador
Hello, El. Do you think this user - ElSidCampeador, is pretending to be you?-- Flooded. Treated like dirt by many admins since 2016 (sig inspired by Hullaballoo) (talk) 13:30, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * - hey, thanks for the heads up! However, it looks like it might just be a coincidence. El Cid was referred to as El Cid and El Campeador, and also El Cid Campeador. Since it's not a vandalism account (from what I can tell) I assume it's in good faith. HOWEVER, I genuinely appreciate you bringing it to my attention. Thank you! Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  13:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Great! So I guess we have nothing to worry about. -- Flooded. Treated like dirt by many admins since 2016 (sig inspired by Hullaballoo) (talk) 13:40, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Talkback
RhinosF1(chat) (status)(contribs) 18:57, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Don't blame me...
... when someone comes along to call you a sexist. See Wikipedia_talk:Disruptive_editing. Or maybe you're mocking a disabled person. Or both. EEng 14:28, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * haha I was not aware of the conversation, so I apologize. I assume you're kidding, but either way, feel free to disregard my edit. I was trying to make a compromise - i.e. include 1 picture as opposed to 0 or 2. But, as I said, I was unaware of the potentially satirical discussion, so feel free to pretend like my edit didn't happen. Cheers! ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  14:51, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You have nothing to apologize for. I suggest we let the thought police decide between 1 and 2. EEng 15:57, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * haha sounds good to me! Thanks ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  16:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.17


Hello ,


 * News
 * The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.


 * Discussions of interest
 * Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
 * db-blankdraft was merged into G13 (Discussion)
 * A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.


 * Reminders
 * NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD  because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.


 * NPP Tools Report
 * Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
 * copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
 * The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828 Looking for inspiration? There are approximately 1000 female biographies to review. Stay up to date with even more news – subscribe to The Signpost.

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NPR Newsletter No.18


Hello ,

, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
 * Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.
 * Reliable Sources for NPP

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.
 * Backlog drive coming soon


 * News
 * Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.


 * Discussions of interest
 * A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
 * There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
 * What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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Keeping up with those IP edits
Thanks for keeping up with the disruptive edits from Basquiat by IP 24.91.224.247. You left them a message on their Talk page which they ignored and I am counting six straight disruptive edits coming from that account. If you report that IP account as not doing anything constructive and only making consecutive disruptive edits then please ping me for support. CodexJustin (talk) 17:20, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Added Sources to Baby annie page
Added links in the references section which are related to Baby annie — Preceding signed comment added by Chinnu1215 (talk • contribs) 18:09, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

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