User talk:Elaich/Archive 1

Chumley
Sorry to bother you, but I have created Chumley as a disambiguation page. Please improve it if you can; thank you. Grace notes T § 13:59, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

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Ed, Edd n Eddy
Sorry! I did not mean to vandalize the Ed, Edd n Eddy article. As soon as I realized that the show was not ending on April 27, I reverted my own edits. I did not mean to add nonfactual information to Wikipeda.

Sincerely,

Baseballmes 00:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, um, why did you delete the 'Fandom' section I wrote? The fans are the only reason the show got renewed and I was not talking about fansites as I was actually just making a point that EEnE has a very active base. And plus, I did not get the letter-writing section of the paragraph from fansites. I got it from an interview with Erin Fitzgerald on 12 June, 2007 on musicplusTV.

~Stoopid Monkey

An apology
I would like to apoligize for that incident on User:DietLimeCola's talk page. I never meant to call you or the IPs vandals. If you reread my comment, you can see that I was not trying to make any accusations about you (look at the word could). I also like to apoligize for my other comments. They were not intended to be snide or hateful in any way. For some reason, I feel that this is not enough of an apology. Squirepants101 01:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * It's plenty. I am going to take a Wikibreak, at least from this article, to let things settle out. Apology accepted, I would like to apologize to you for being intolerant. -- Elaich 02:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey I wrote staff info down please do not delete it.-User:navetube

Assistance for Cartoon Network Wikiproject
Due to Driveus leaving for other places, I need a second-in-command in a sense to assist me with deciding the general direction of the project. Might not be necessary but few people attached are doing much and would like more input about what we should be doing so having more people giving feedback would be better than two voices talking in isolation. -- treelo talk 20:33, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Characters
I was organizing these "minor characters" into a sub-section for the time being until a further course of action was decided upon. Kemiv 22:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a Mr. Sun!
I got something on my talk page that said "There is no Mr. Sun". But there IS a Mr. Sun, he talks to Jimmy, and I can prove it! If anyone watched the episode "The Ed's are Coming", you'll see Mr. Sun. I even have a screenshot, here you go! img341.imagesha ck.us/img341/4246/mrsunym4.png I proved you wrong, now what do you have to say about THAT Mr. Editor? I think you owe me an apology. 64.72.126.134 09:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 * If you will read the discussion pages, you will see why Mr. Sun is not a character. -- Elaich  talk 19:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Big Jack Armstrong
I'm curious as to why you tagged this article for cleanup. I don't see anything wrong with it. If you are going to tag with the generic cleanup tag, then you should explain your reasons on the talk page, or use a more specific tag. -- Elaich  talk 18:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I suggest you read it - a whole host of mashed together comments with no refereces, that's inherently POV and has limited encyclopedic content/not written in an encyclopedic manner. Need I say any more, or care to debate it on WP:AFD? Give it a clean up! Rgds, --Trident13 19:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Episode articles
You might want to look at what is happening to The Ed-Touchables. Pants (T) 19:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Please don't bring back anymore episodes. They will never be able to meet the guideline, so there is no reason to leave a summary and junk. TTN 19:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I give up. My intent was to cleanup the entire thing, with links to episodes that could contain more info than the Wikitable. The Wikitable is a mess. Hereis what I planned to duplicate. I don't see anything wrong with that, and there is nobody yelling that it needs to be merged. It seems about half the people who edit Wikipedia really care about the content of articles, and the other half exist here only to Netkopp. Fine. Have it your way. -- Elaich  talk 20:07, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Good work on sorting links and pages. Don't worry about AfD: generally, these sorts of episode pages get redirected rather than deleted.  You are right to avoid separate pages for episodes: Wikipedia consensus is that episode pages should only be created for notable episodes (ie. A programme or series might be notable, but that doesn't mean every episode is).  See the episode notability guideline.  People often create pages enthusiastically, unaware of such guidelines.  Many of those Frasier ones you link are probably unnotable also, and will undoubtedly be reviewed at some point.  I understand your concern about unwieldy episode list pages: there is often enough notable information for more than a table.  User:Bignole is working on a pattern for season pages.  Have a word with him if you want some suggestions.  Also have a look at Episode coverage taskforce.  Hope this helps. Gwinva 15:06, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

User:65.31.98.166
I take your points absolutely. I will watch him exceptionally closely.--Anthony.bradbury"talk" 23:22, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Ed, Edd and Eddy
If a show is produced in Canada by a Canadian production company, then it's a Canadian show that belongs in Canadian show categories. And according to the talk page, you're the only person on Wikipedia who's ever stated otherwise; the opinion of one person does not count as a definitive consensus that would make the tone you adopted on my talk page remotely appropriate. Bearcat 18:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for making a report at Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators generally only block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Daniel Case 04:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I did. Regardless, policy says you have to put them through the full cycle of warnings, or if they're a sock or suspected sock explain why (and possibly link to evidence). I am not about to issue a block to an account with no warnings of any kind since May without more explanation, even if it has already been coming off a month block.

Another problem for an investigating administrator: he has been making legitimate, or at least superficially legitimate, edits as well. I found the blanking, but it's not enough at the moment to justify a fresh block.

At the least, though, I'll give him a delete warning. Daniel Case 05:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply
You mean cleaning up a horribly cluttered page page suddenly counts as vandalism? When was this rule made? -- Scorpion0422 03:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Look at Troy McClure and Homer Simpson, both of which are GAs. See the difference? Revert the page once more and I'll report you for WP:3RR. -- Scorpion0422 04:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Like what. All I saw was paragraphs of unsourced cruft. -- Scorpion0422 04:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It would help if you actually read the article. The information in question is already in there. -- Scorpion0422 04:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's right, you caught me. I had NO intention of improving the article, I was just trying to remove that one little piece of info. Believe it or not, I do not have some "master plan" to remove that one statement... I was merely cleaning up the article and you reverting me every 5 seconds was not helpful. -- Scorpion0422 04:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your point? If I had cared, I wouldn't have written it in the first place. -- Scorpion0422 04:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Eternal September
The "Google Groups" paragraph on this article doesn't seem to comply with WP:NPOV, and the reference certainly is not a WP:RS. Instead of repeatedly inserting the section despite comments from other editors, let's discuss it on the Talk Page. Since the reference is weak, instead of charging others with finding your references after reinstating the OR, provide some more that pass the RS tests. Note: repeatedly ignoring other editors and reinstating the material could be viewed as vandalism or link-spamming. That's not a warning, just a friendly reminder to assume good faith on the part of others and consider their concerns. Perhaps the section could be elaborated with discussion of DejaNews before Google ... of course, with a NPOV. ;)  David Spalding (  ☎ ✉ ✍  ) 15:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

DLC
Can't say I've seen DLC anywhere recently. according to his contribs, he hasn't been here since late July so could be anywhere. -- treelo talk 11:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Rhode Island Hero
The user has been issued a warning. If he persists in contributing unconstructively, please leave me a message, or report him to WP:AIV. Happy editing! GlassCobra 21:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll do what I can. You might also consider reporting this to WP:SSP, and possibly ask the opinions of a few other admins. GlassCobra 02:39, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I had Rlevse, an admin who's really experienced dealing with sockpuppets, open you a case: Suspected sock puppets. Go on over there and fill in your evidence, okay? Good luck! GlassCobra 03:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Probably going to end up screwing something up but I did get User:Rhode Island Hero blocked for the abuse. Shouldn't affect a sockpuppet case, should it? It is a means to an end and the result would have been the same but I feel like now it'd been better to get him on sockpuppeteering instead of just being a jerk. Hmm, seems the case was thrown out anyway for no evidence so it affects nothing. -- treelo talk 22:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


 * By the time the case was opened, I had gone offline. It must have been deleted during the night. -- Elaich  talk 03:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Ed, Edd n Eddy
Sorry about that. The IP is a known vandal who makes all sorts of strange edits. Usually messing up dates on TV shows. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 03:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Last aired date of Ed, Edd n Eddy
I agree. I don't think most of these are vandalism; editors who know that the show is still on television are confused when they see an end date for the show. I left a little invisible note that will only show in the article when it's being edited to not change the date. Hopefully that will help. GlassCobra 03:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Most people are adding that date because of the Ed's cameo in The Grim Adventures of the Kids Next Door, which aired on November 11th. However, for whatever reason, they're considering it an actual episode (probably because that 16 seconds was actually done by AKA Cartoon).  You can see for yourself here: .  Either way, it's not an actual episode of Ed, Edd n Eddy.  It's not even canon. DietLimeCola 04:32, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think any of that was canon. Actually, I thought the whole crossover was pretty dumb. GlassCobra 06:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Vandal
Thanks for the input :) &mdash; Nova  Dog  &mdash;  ( contribs ) 22:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Jim Staggs
All material in the article as orginally written was based on the source material cited in the article.

What are your sources for the date of Staggs' transfer from KYW to WCFL? The Chicago Sun-Times obituary on Staggs definitively lists Staggs as moving to WCFL in 1963. Note that the radio disc jockey extensive quoted in the obituary, Terri Hemmert, is a noted authority and Beatles expert.

Do you have a source for the exact date of the transition of WCFL's format to Top 40? (Wikipedia's article on WCFL states that the transition took place in 1965. So, therefore, isn't it possible that Staggs, who apprarently became very close to the Beatles on the tours, provided reports on both KYW (1964 and, possibly, 1965) and WCFL (possibly 1965, definitely 1966). If he didn't cover the Beatles on WCFL, how do you explain how so many people in Chicago, as evidenced in the obituaries cited, remember him doing so? Or, why would he write a piece for the Chicago Sun Times.

I also take umbrage at your labeling my carefully researched article as being "ridiculous." I thought the spirit of wikipedia was one of collaboration. What can you add to the article? Ggosselink (talk • contribs) 06:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Not a case of wishful thinking by me...simply my best attempt to coalesce information from differing sources. Again, I'm not sure why you feel you have to put me down when all I am trying to do is get the information correct. What have you contributed?By the way, since I was born in 1968, I would have no way of being able to personally verify the dates of the WCFL format change. Ggosselink (talk • contribs) 07:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Also, please note that The Beatles coverage is listed in a separate section. All references to the coverage airing on specific stations has been eliminated. Stagg's coverage of The Beatles, the most influential rock band, is one of the reasons why he is a notable figure. So please do not delete this whole section again. Thanks. Ggosselink (talk) 07:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I meant that you had not contributed anything to this particular article. How about adding something from his KYW years? Ggosselink (talk) 08:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

And which part of The Beatles section is incorrect, especially now that I have pulled out any references to specific radio stations in this section? And why would I vandalize a page I have worked so hard to create?Ggosselink (talk) 08:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Looney Tunes on TV
A few days ago, Agtaz proposed that an individual article concerning the Looney Tunes television broadcast history be created. The proposal has produced a fairly intense response, so research and development are currently underway. However, I wanted the discussion to spread out, so that consensus could be reached among interested wikipedians. Given that some of your contributions are to animated television shows, I was pretty sure you'd be helpful in this case. Any questions? Ideas? Suggestions? You are welcome to drop me a line and participate in the discussion. Feedback is apperciated. — Cinemaniac (talk) 20:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

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Peer Revues
Happy New Year, Agtax! Though you usually contribute to EEnE, I thought I could ask for your help and advice outside of that. I've submitted two articles for peer review, and thought that you might like to critique them: If you have the time, it'd be great if you could look over those two articles and assess their flaws and weaknesses. Thanks, and, again, a Happy New Year to you! — Cinemaniac (talk •  contribs) 04:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Duck Soup. I've listed this article for peer review because, even though I and other editors have contributed much information and references, I'm certain that there are other aspects of this classic film that have yet to be covered. I'd like to hear feedback from you, so that I can get help in improving this (and other Marx Brothers films) quality.
 * Princess Leia Organa. I've listed this article for peer review because it right now seems oddly cluttered and, despite a lot of references as of now, lacks reliable source citations. Although I've already requested another peer review, as long as it helps the articles get better, I've got the time. Comments and suggestions are appreciated, as this should help me in expanding other Star Wars-centric articles.

Hey, Im not quite sure where to put this, but I think that the wikipedia 'reception' article for FFIX is misleading. The music is portrayed as bad when in reality it is praised highly by Core Magazine, Gamepro, Gaming Age, Netjak and many more. http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/psx/finalfantasy9?q=Final%20Fantasy%20IX Also, the article says that much of the music was reused from previous Final Fantasys. This is a lie. There are only one or two tracks that are reused. I hope that correct information will be put on that page as soon as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.85.132 (talk) 18:40, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

ClayMort
Hi Elaich! It's me, ClayMort. Remember me? Well, if you do, I hope you have noticed that I've slowed down on the vandalism in the last few months. What do you say we let bygones be bygones, huh? By the way, I've always wanted to know this: are you a boy or a girl? Don't be afraid to ask. -ClayMort, 1/11/08

Your warning on my talkpage
Hi there. I noticed that you left an erroneous warning on my talkpage and quickly removed it. First off, I'm not upset at all - we're all humans and we all make mistakes. (One of my recent mistakes resulted in a rather controversial AfD - you are probably glad you didn't screw up that badly) I would just like to know how you happened upon my talkpage as I haven't edited any articles relating to Ed, Edd n Eddy recently. Thanks, N F 24 (radio me!) 20:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Are you kidding me?
I understand the whole no 6th season thing, but it's in almost evrey source that the movie is coming out in the summer of 08? and futher more it's already been announced that there is a movie in the first place so it still counts as present Onepiece226 (talk) 11:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Ok well when there's actual proof of a new episode being made, I mean that site is not a fake fan made site or EEnE cartoon it's from that episode that they're working on so where should we put it?Onepiece226 (talk) 17:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Just a heads up...
Claymort has re-registered with the username User:Crips r us, all the signs seem to be there to me. -- treelo talk 02:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Cheer up! It's not so bad.


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Read your post on Jimbo's page
I must tell you that I completely sympathize with what you're going through. The beuracracy, the counter productiveness, the trolls, the idiocy, the lunacy of it all. In many ways, your work, and your criticisms remind me of me on Wikipedia. I don't edit many articles (mostly just a Wikignome), but I have a handful I defend and watch like children. If I go, those articles don't stand a chance. The same with your articles. We all suffer, and grow increasingly tired of the work here -- it truly seems never endless at times. But if we hang tough, it will get better.

Anyway, I don't know if this helps, but please understand that I truly emphasize with your plight. If you like, I'd be happy to add some articles on my Watchlist so I can keep an eye on them as well during your much needed Wikibreak. I mean this in good faith, and I hope I can help in any way. :) Sincerely Zidel333 —Preceding comment was added at 16:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Go ahead and take a break.
I understand how it feels to revert the countless edits every day (obviously). I'll go ahead and look over the Ed's pages for a week while you just do something else :). I just really don't want to lose you, you're really those pages last hope. DietLimeCola (talk) 07:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree wholeheartedly! Take a break, Elaich; DietLimeCola and I will revert the fancruft from the EEnE pages for awhile.  You need some rest! ;-) — Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs) 14:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah you are doing a good job over there!Onepiece226 (talk) 23:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Just a couple of things
I honestly appreciate what you do on the page, just to let you know. Ok so since the new eps aired in Australia, I put them up in season 5 with the reference, but there's 2 problems, someone added a new page, List of Ed, Edd, n Eddy season 6 episodes, now me and you both know there's been no say on a season 6 so how can we get rid of it? and the other is should we put the airdate to present until we know when the episode will air?Onepiece226 (talk) 00:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Thank you, ino it's weird that Australia has a new episode before us. I just think they'll show it a week before the movie comes out, if it does, yea so I just wanna work hard with you and make all info good, and i'll discuss anything with you b4 i put it upOnepiece226 (talk) 00:28, 27 January 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

Movie

 * Yeah it's going to be a disaster. The other Cartoon Network movie articles had things like poorly written essays of everything that happened with countless typos (like "someone coughs and walked three steps to the left, then he said "Hello" and the other person said "Hello" back"....)and grammar errors, quotes, and trivia.  It's going to get messy, but we should think of a plan so we're prepared when that happens.  Theres a few things that I question though. 1. Does it deserve it's own article? 2. A rumor states (and I'm not 100% either) that we'll see whats under Double D's hat, and Eddy's Brother will appear.  Would these warrant mention on the characters page, or in the article/section of the movie itself, as well as any other big parts of character development? (theres supposed to be lots).  Also, thanks for getting the movie page protected from re-creation.  I got it deleted before through AFD, but I had no idea that people kept on making it over and over again. DietLimeCola (talk) 18:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Crips r us / ClayMort
Hey Elaich, unfortunately I don't really know a lot about this guy's situation. What I would recommend is that you contact User:Rlevse, who is great with sockpuppet cases. He can help you fill in all the info, and get the case underway. Good luck! GlassCobra 04:43, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I've re-blocked him. GlassCobra 06:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Crips r Us
Hello Eliach.User:Rhode Island Hero.. Click on it. Remember me? Yeah I just wanted to say hi. We havent talked in a long time. Alright let me get down to the point. I am Crips r us/Rhode Island Hero. I want to just say thet I am not ClayMort. Im Greg. So don't stress over finding me. Ok? cool.Crips r us (talk) 15:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Listen!
Dude! Im not ClayMort! I don't even know what a claymort is! I live near jungwirthwillkillallrocks and Im friends with him, but Im not him! I even created a page FOR Wikipedia for God's sake! Im only here to helpCrips r us (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I need your help.
Once again the final air date of Ed, Edd n Eddy was removed (surprise surprise), by Crips R Us again. I am done dealing with this bull crap, and it leads me to believe the theories about crips R Us and his sockpuppets are true. I need you to help me gather evidence, and other possible sockpuppets. I believe User:Brucefry may be another sockpuppet. This needs to end, it isn't funny. I'm going to report him to check user in a bit, and when I do I'll provide a link and if you want you can contribute, so we have a better chance of ending this. DietLimeCola (talk) 04:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright I'm almost done, give me a few minutes. DietLimeCola (talk) 05:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok done, add whatever you can. DietLimeCola (talk) 05:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned on my talkpage to Elaich, now's probably a good time to start developing something for WP:LTA, preferably a subpage given the assumption he may have some psychological condition. Better than constant checkuser and sockpuppet cases as it would allow for blocking on sight, wouldn't it? I'll try and assist if you (DLC), Elaich and whomever else wants to go ahead with the idea but I can only add so much. -- treelo talk 13:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. DietLimeCola (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Email
You requested my Email address. My email is dietlimecola22@yahoo.com DietLimeCola (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Misleading Edits
It was a joke to see how changing the n to a b would change the article, just as a small joke to get the people throughout the day. My Wikipedia username was Tjleo23 056 but somebody hacked the account or I didn't sign out, and it got blocked, so my new one is Tjleo209 014. You can leave me a message on my talk. Thank you. Sorry for any inconvienience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.118.6 (talk) 09:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Question
Elaich. I was wondering, what do you mean when you say that the original Ed, Edd n Eddy run is over? < —Preceding unsigned comment added by Godzillastar (talk • contribs) 17:13, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That there is one Greg Jungwirth a.k.a Claymort, our friend who reminds me of MascotGuy but obviously not. A sockpuppetry case has been opened so by the time you get this he may already be blocked. -- treelo talk 02:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

smile
Be cool with Wikipedia citizens. If they are acting up, use actions. Not words. Words will cause more trouble. Stay cool.70.181.24.188 (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Ed Edd n Eddy
You said I vandalised Ed Edd n Eddy. I dont do ed edd n eddy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.1.109.247 (talk) 11:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * DietLimeCola (talk) 08:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:UNC Tarheels
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Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Komodo Lover sockpuppet suspects awaiting RFCU
After what seems to be quite a while and a bunch of edits inbetween, the list of unconfirmed usernames and IP addresses that are listed at the LTV page has grown to a point where a checkuser for these accounts might be necessary. If you want to co-ordinate a case together with me and others then you may create or continue the conversation at the LTV talkpage if one doesn't exist already. treelo talk 02:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

This message has been submitted to the following user's talkpage:, You are welcome to inform others to this if you feel they might be able to help or have an interest in this issue.


 * Oh, yeah! I remember him!  In fact, I think he's given some Ed, Edd n Eddy pages quite a bit of trouble recently . Cinemaniac (talk  •  contribs  •  critique) 03:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Crips r us returns
Thought you might like to have a look at this. Any thoughts? GlassCobra 03:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

EENE
Someone put the original run of Ed, Edd n Eddy to present. FIx it please. I would do it myself, but i cantThe Legend of G (talk) 02:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)