User talk:Elaragirl/Archive 6

Greetings from Kyoko
 Greetings from Kyoko Hi there, you get to have my last edit before I leave. I wish you weren't "wikibroken", as you put it. I hope that things work out for you and I want you to know that I'll be thinking of you. May this season and the new year bring you happiness and joy. Best wishes, -- Kyok o  16:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I too will be thinking of you and hope you will have a great holiday! Best regards.  &mdash; ¡ Rand  fan  !  Sign here?  17:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

My RfC
Just letting you know that I have replied to your proposal, and we have also moved to discuss several others. You may want to check the discussion and defend (or revise) your initial proposal. Once again, thanks for the effort!--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:19, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Smile


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. I hope this will make you feel a little better.--§Sir James Paul&lt;&lt;--wikiholic§ 17:09, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

smile some more!


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

I hope thingsget better for you. &mdash; ¡ Rand fan  !  Sign here?  23:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

And some More


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing! Wow, we are here for you and love you very much. Take care okay?&mdash; Seadog_MS  01:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

So sad to hear about the troubles of those you are close to
I know it hits very hard when troubles come into the lives of those you love and care about. You can feel so powerless. But good things happen at random as well as bad ones and perhaps 2007 will be better for you and yours than 2006 has been. At least Wikipedia at its best has a community spirit. The wonderful Kyoko suggested I should leave a message for you. I don't know if you celebrate Christmas, but if you do, I hope you have a very happy time. Thank you for your voluntary contributions to the encyclopedia. Itsmejudith 23:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Good luck to you and your loved ones
The worst of it can be the sense of helplessness, I know from experience: those you love, you want to help and heal and make things better... and sometimes, as with death, you simply can't. But you can be there for the living, for those your help can reach, and it is clear that you are there for them. Anyone who doesn't see that in you, or doesn't see the importance of this quality to being a good parent and a good example for your child, is simply and sadly blind. I hope that somewhere up the line you encounter those with better sight. – SAJordan talkcontribs 03:19, 22 Dec 2006 (UTC).

my attempt at encouragement
Hi Elaragirl, you may have seen parts of this message before in your e-mail. I know that I said I would likely be offline, but here I am. I don't know what to say, and I wish there were more that I could do. This time of year is especially hard to lose a friend, which is a major reason why I don't like this time of year myself. The pain of losing a friend can be overwhelming. In my friend's case it wasn't suicide, so I can't imagine how you must be feeling. I know how easy it is to blame yourself for another person's actions, but please try not to second guess yourself or feel guilty. Whoever said that "time heals all wounds" was lying. I don't think the pain ever goes away completely, but hopefully, over time, it won't seem so predominant in your thoughts.

Your willingness to take in your unemployed friend's family shows just what a caring person you are, no matter what people might have said about you in the past. At the same time, I realise that caregivers themselves can find themselves in need of help, and I hope that you have friends, family, and other resources nearby that can help you shoulder the emotional, physical, and financial burdens that you are carrying.

I still don't know if I'm saying the right thing. I don't know if I can say the right thing.

I don't know when/if I'll get online again during my vacation, but you and your friends will be in my thoughts and prayers. I wish you the best in all things.

With all my love, -- Kyok o  08:31, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * What Kyoko and SAJordan said. My heartfelt sympathies and admiration for your thorough decency to others even at a time of trouble for yourself. I'll send an e-mail saying a bit more later. Cheers, Moreschi Deletion! 12:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

XMAS gift
Lots of good intentions flying around, but not much in the way of useful stuff. Here is a nice template I found to organize your ever-growing collections of awards :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 14:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

(removed barnstar box. Thank you, that's certainly useful!-- Elar  a  girl  Talk 17:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC))

Short but, ...
I'm here if you need someone. You know how and where to find me. I pray, if you need someone, please find me. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge  (  Talk to Me  &bull;  Neutrality Project  ) 14:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I am praying for you.
I hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!  B e  arly  541  13:13, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
 ♥ Fr  ed  il  16:38, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I can't think of an original comment, but I am concerned, so...


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Will (Because you're filthy, ooh, and I'm gorgeous)Merry Christmas! 01:42, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

ERROR: barometer does not record values above 1000000 kPa
Elaragirl, there's a verb in Spanish, esperar. It mean to wait or to hope for; incidentally, Esperanza is the noun form of this verb. I then espero that you also have the strength to esperar for whatever good will come your way. If the ultimate outcome (not just this temporal one), God forbid, is anything other than an ideal resolution, please accept this meager paragraph as an attempted manifestation of some good in this world. I would appreciate it if you believed that I respect you for your ideas and your personality; I do. If needed, I will send in the wikideathsquad to support you. The Deletionist Cabal also sends its prayers and chocolates. Buena suerte, and please don't feel any obligation to go back to Wikipedia until you're ready. Grace notes T  &#167; 20:47, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Elaragirl
I'm not much for tokens - but I do hope you come back soon. If I can be of any service to you, let me know. NinaEliza (talk • contribs • [ logs ] ) 21:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


 * We both know how much you love pile-ons, but the same as Nina said applies with me Elara. Let me know if I can help any.  Cheers, ✎  Peter M Dodge  (  Talk to Me  &bull;  Neutrality Project  ) 21:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
I've always enjoyed your very-colorful commentary, and hope you have the best holiday possible under the circumstances. The best of luck to you. Seraphimblade 10:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

feeble attempt at support
Hi Elaragirl, I have to make this quick. I hope you are able to read this, I might send a copy by e-mail if I can. I wish there were more I could do to help you, and I'm disturbed that more people haven't offered to help. I ended up quitting Esperanza because it seemed, as I told E@L, more interested in talk about charters and polls than in actually reaching out and helping people. The full reasons are on her talk page. I'm still very concerned about you, and Ayelie, and Peter, and now Fredil too, who for some reason requested to be blocked. The year is just getting worse and worse, and I feel helpless to do anything about it. I'm sorry about everything that has happened in your life, and I will pray for you and everyone you know. With all my love, -- Kyoko 23:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey there
If you need some help with the hospital stuff, I can send some. Your daughter need not suffer because you can't afford the care they need. Email me. Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge  (  Talk to Me  &bull;  Neutrality Project  ) 23:12, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * After I ran into you at the Simple English Wikipedia, I had to say a word. Just remember, in these times of hardship, 1 Peter 6-7: "So be truly glad! There is wonderful joy ahead, even though it is necessary for you to endure many trials for a while. These trials are only to test your faith, to show that it is strong and pure." Cheers, PullToOpenTalk 01:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * My wording entirely, PullToOpen. Elara, I am truly sorry that your life has been messed up as it has, and I sincerely hope that it improves soon. And it will improve. My best wishes and I hope you continue here; you have been an extremely valued contributor. Yuser31415 04:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

ISBN for Associated Student Bodies
Somewhat late, but I thought I'd note it since you commented otherwise. . . while the series may not have an ISSN, the anthology has an ISBN. Couldn't say how many public libraries would keep a copy, though I suspect it's in a few private ones. GreenReaper 07:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak
I hope your Wikibreak is nice, Elaragirl, and that the things causing you distress in real life calm themselves down. I hope you get a chance to relax just for yourself. -- Nataly a 17:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Smile


Heligoland has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Happy Holidays on Your Wikibreak
Hi! I'm sorry to see what you said on your userpage. I hope that you had a Merry Christmas/Hannukah/etc. and have a Happy New Year!-- E d  ¿Cómo estás? 22:35, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Just need to rant
What planet are Esperanzans living on? What reality do they inhabit? Cos it sure as fuck ain't Earth. With their endless suggestions to merge everything to Esperanza, be it the Birthday Committee or the Kindness Campaign, they seem incapable of realising that people don't want to be part of Esperanza. The latest suggestion is actually (God's truth) to merge Esperanza to the Community Portal. 300 votes to delete at the MfD and they still think Esperanza is loved and needed. They're destroying themselves with their own bureaucracy now, but as I watch I can't help but think that more and more, Esperanza needs to go. It is just so out of touch with ordinary Wikipedians, how could they possibly give anyone hope? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * They need to be hurled into the magical ball of fire. Mmmyep. I'll help! ✎  Peter M Dodge  (  Talk to Me  &bull;  Neutrality Project  ) 01:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I also want to offer my sympathy for your personal situation, and hope you a speedy recovery of happiness. I can't do much, you being 3000 miles away and all, but if there's something you need help with here or online generally, just ask. : ) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Hola!
I hope you are well. You are missed. -- weirdoactor tundefinedc 02:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Also; please do not forget that you have a spine of adamantium...so, [activate Marine DI mode] QUIT USING IT FOR A HAT RACK, GET THE HELL UP OFF MY FUCKING DECK AND START ACTING LIKE THE BAD ASS THAT YOU KNOW YOU ARE! YOU EAT PROBLEMS LIKE THIS FOR BREAKFAST, WITH ROOM FOR SECONDS! UP! UP! UP! MOVEIT MOVEIT MOVEIT! GO GO GO![de-activate Marine DI mode].

Hee. But seriously; you know you're meaner than this shit. Flip the switch. -- weirdoactor tundefinedc 15:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Feel better!
Feel better! You'll be glad to know that I've joined the Dark Side and left Esperanza :) Now you and I can fight side by side lol.  Hope you feel better, because Wikipedia just wouldn't be the same without your choice words.  Dooms  Day349  03:15, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

DeleteArticle
Just letting you know that your article's made it into the virtual classroom. I'm sure they'd appreciate any insight you can provide on the deletion process - look at that, they've even called you an "expert host". You've gotta be happy with that. :-)

I won't pretend to know how you're feeling right now - all I'll say is that every problem has a solution, even if they're not obvious. I hope you find some solutions soon. Best wishes. Quack 688 06:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Mail
You've got some. Moreschi Deletion! 19:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

More.
I just found out not long ago my stepsister was killed in a car accident yesterday evening. She was 4 months pregnant. The baby did not survive, either. Her fiance may be paralyzed. I'm still trying to figure everything out..and at work.

Please pray for me. -- Elar  a  girl  Talk 19:31, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Will do. I almost cried when I saw that and your userpage...update...something that hasn't happened in while. Moreschi Deletion! 19:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Every day and night. God, I am so sorry for you and all those people. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm saddened to hear all that is happening to you at the moment, I'm thinking of you and I know I'm not alone. -- Kind Regards -  Heligoland  |   Talk  |   Contribs  19:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Im not terribly religious, but one thing Jenny would say is, when someone is ready for heaven, they go. I pray for you, and you know where to find me if you need someone, hun.  Be strong.  ✎  Peter M Dodge  (  Talk to Me  &bull;  Neutrality Project  ) 22:54, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you are religious or not, but my religion teacher always tells us that no one will ever know why people die. It is one of God's mysteries. I know that this might not help you at the moment, but we must hope that your step-sister and her baby are safer in heaven.-- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? Reviews? 22:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Her fiancee is in critical condition but able to move his arms and legs....cracked but did not break neck vertibrae. I'm going home now from work. -- Elar  a  girl  Talk 23:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh god, no-one deserves this sort of pain, and I, and many others, will be thinking of you because we care about you. Best wishes. Will (Because you're filthy, ooh, and I'm gorgeous) 00:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

You stay strong Elara. The long way home is never too far, unless you reach the end of life - remember that here, and remember there are a handful, at least, that deeply care for you, and love you. Lots of love, ✎ Peter M Dodge  (  Talk to Me  &bull;  Neutrality Project  ) 00:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * God Bless your families. I will be praying for you tonight.-- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? Reviews? 00:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry
I'm sorry about everything that's going on with you. No one deserves all of this. I really don't know what more to say, but I'll be praying for you, and I'm really really sorry.  Dooms Day349  19:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm really sorry that all this is happening to you - I can't believe that so many terrible things can affect one person. You have all of my sympathy Mart inp23  22:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The same goes from me! I was shocked and saddened when I saw your page just now.  As DoomsDay said above, you are also in my prayers.  Best wishes and I hope that you are able to get back up on your feet soon.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk)  00:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Though I am but a lowly wiki-gnome, I have seen your name around (mainly around the XfDs). I will pray for you, and I wish you the best in overcoming the difficulties you are facing.  My condolences.  Ripberger 07:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza
I know it's probably meaningless, but reading the massive support for the deletion of Esperanza might make you feel a little happier. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 01:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The axe has fallen. God bless you and happy new year. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:27, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Elara, I am praying for you
Elara, I am deeply sorry of what you are going through right now. No one could imagine the tremendous hurt that you have endured...your story reminds me of Job in the Bible. I am praying for you. Stay strong and faithful! God is with you and your friends. And, He will keep you safe.  B e  arly  541  04:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Get well soon.
Yo Elaragirl. Unlike everyone here, (and don't think I am insulting, rude, a piece of shit, hyppocritical, or anything bad, whoever's reading this), but I won't apologize or pray for you, because I don't know what it feels like to go through what you are going through. But I will say this: Your stress is natural. Like it or not, hate it or not, it's what makes us human. Yes, it sucks big time, but soon, it will be over. Your suffering will not last forever; it will lift someday. '''Think of it this way: Pain, sufering and stress is like fertilizer. It feels like crap at first, but it will help you grow!' That's my borrowed'' philosophy. So, sorry for not apologizing, or praying, but I hope these different types of words at least made you a bit happier. At least a bit. Buh-bye! -- Tohru  Honda 13Sign here! 05:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Hope things get better for you
Hey Elaragirl,

Just reading your userpage is depressing; without trying to sound trite, I hope things improve for you and for your loved ones who are still around you. Best wishes, Firsfron of Ronchester  08:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Showing my support
You're in my prayers. Can't really say any more than that... And nice header message too. May I steal borrow it? f(Crazytales) = (user + talk) at 15:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Supporting you in your time of need
We all love you, even if you are a bit harsh. Please know we are here for you.-- C  J   King  21:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Her harshness is what makes her...her, the her we all love. Eleragirl you are such a great person it is imaginable, you sharp criticism makes us all better people. Without you...Lord know what would happen here. I am so sorry to hear what you are going through, I and others hope that you will feel better soon. &mdash; Arjun  22:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Nothing to add to that last post. Nothing whatsoever. Completely concur. Moreschi Deletion! 22:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply to comment
I understand your bitterness, but I doubt that sarcasm is really necessary. I was angry, and I was stupid to show that through my comment. But, that's no different than what you did. Just my two-bits. Bushc a rrot ( Talk·Desk ) 05:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes it is bushcarrot :D. What you did is way different from what Elaragirl did, I think that she responded nicely to your actions. What comes around goes around and particularly the phrase and I quote from this which can be found on the bottom of the EA mfd page..."Whoever put Esperanza here for deletion, go fuck yourself." I think that my friend is a little too harsh. Please note for future reference Bushcarrot that if you don't want to pay the consequence "don't" do the action. &mdash; Arjun  06:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Good will in your time of need
My prayers are with you in this time of need.

Anthony cfc  15:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Probably useless support
I have never experienced personally anything like what you describe, so I won't say that I'm sympathetic (because I haven't been in a sympathetic or similar situation) or that I've been in tougher spots. I haven't and actually doubt many people ever have. And I also know how pointless it is to offer support over the internet to someone who I can in no way really, actively help. Having said that, I think given your situation it's more or less required to try to do so anyway. You have all of our prayers, and if there's ever anything I can do to help you through this ordeal, just name it. Badbilltucker 16:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Elara
'''I have refactored all comments, since this was a big misunderstanding. The last thing I want to see is people who care about me arguing. Please read the policy at EL:TEACUP -- Elar  a'''  girl  Talk 01:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Nina was addressing that to the Wikighoul Review, and that pack of insufferable trolls at the so-called Wikitruth. While I understand everyone is worried about me, Nina is (like me) apt to get so firey that she says things that can taken in a manner that wasn't meant.


 * Nina, the Wikipedia Review is composed of about 30% people who are frustrated for good reasons with the way things happened at Wikipedia, and I can understand that. But there are also a lot of people there who do nothing but grind axes constantly. At least one person from there appearantely went out of their way to email me to say that "Well, sucks that you have a bad year, but you're a deletionist so you deserve it, and I hope you DIAF." There's also a person from the Wikipedia review who emailed me to say that regardless of how they feel towards WP or me as an editor, they're sorry I'm in such straits and pray for me and wish for the day when things are better.


 * The so-called Wikitruth (what a fucking hypocritical lie that is) on the other hand, is nothing more than WP focused version of GNAA with a smear of some shit-for-brains admin that's too fucking cowardly to say what he feels on wiki, or put his real name behind it. But what do you expect from pedantic little children.


 * Anyway...Windy's funeral is tomorrow. I probably won't be on much, or answer email, or get on IRC, don't get alarmed. Mitchell was upgraded from critical to stable, and he's ... not happy. I'm afraid the bulk of my attention and whatever powers of comfort and persuasion I have need to be focused on him for the moment, since he's lost everything in his life.


 * I just want everyone to know I.. I'll make it through. Nina, email me. -- Elar  a  girl  Talk 00:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Your "Elaragirl, about deletion and deletionism" article
In case you didn't know, User:Anomo is trying to create a template directing users to your article in the virtual classroom (good job on it, by the way). There is a discussion going on regarding the appropriateness of this template at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion. Perhaps you could contribute and clear up a few things? Thanks Koweja 00:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Your virtual classroom essay
...is really good. I have started reading it, and will keep going. How long did it take you to write it?-- C  J   King  20:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy New Year
Hi Elaragirl, I hope that 2007 brings you good things in your life and in the lives of everybody you care about. Best wishes, -- Kyoko 01:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * lol!!! I don't know what time zone you're in, so I'll say this right now: Happy New Year! -- Ed  ¿Cómo estás? Reviews? 02:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Praying for you
Just letting you know, my prayers are with you in this time of need, and I'm praying that the new year improves everything for you and your family.  Cat tleG irl  '' talk 05:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey ..
Saw this in your most recent userpage edit summary: m User:Elaragirl‎; 20:50. . (-231) . . Elaragirl (Talk | contribs) (If you always, always leave when someone asks you something they needed to know, there's no point in trying to be helpful.)

If she disappeared last night, I'm probably at fault for that. Not going to get into reasons on wiki, email me if you want an explanation. (Short story: Shit happens). Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge  (  Talk to Me  &bull;  Neutrality Project  ) 20:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thoughts and prayers with you
Elaragirl, I don't think we've ever crossed paths on this project, but I stumbled upon your userpage on my community travels today. It really makes one realize how inconsequential petty disputes here are when faced with difficulties in real life. My thoughts and prayers are with you, and I sincerely hope things take a turn for the better soon. At your service, theProject 05:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

EL:TEACUP
Elara, your satire is so funny. ROTFLMAO. I especially...liked..."Elara is not a gangbang." Anyway, I hope you are feeling better and my prayers are with you.  B e  arly  541  04:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ball of fire
Very nice note on the top of your talk page! Very zen. ★ MESSED ROCKER ★  01:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Wishes from a wikistranger
While wandering around the stress alerts page, I found your name listed there. I don't know what's been going on, but I'm sure it's been tough to get through. If I may, one of my favourite French phrases is "on s'arrangera", everything will work out. That gets me through a lot. Hope things get better soon. -- M PD (T / C) 06:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Everything is fine, and of course we hope things get better soon for you :) &mdash; Canderous Ordo 10:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)