User talk:Electionworld/Archive 2

A one question about CPE
Is Estonian Centre Party a member of the Liberal International? The article about LI doesn't show it. But artcle about CPE shows it.

Politics
First, thank you very much for your hard work in adding categories and articles to the Politics portal and for adding links to the Portal on by-country templates - your work is massively appreciated. If you have any further suggestions on how to raise the Po rtal's profile, let me know and I'll gladly help out.

However, I've put a notice on the Project page to suggest the Project be closed down. Shortly after starting it up I was away for over a month, and on returning realised that it's just too broad - looking at some of the more successful projects, they all focus on a narrow area were WP's content was significantly lacking and would therefore benefit from a concerted collaborative effort.

I do, however, intend to maintain the Portal and keep it updated. If you would like to help with this, drop a note at the Portal talkpage (or mine). I would like to set up a notice board of sorts to organise the efforts of those who want to keep the Portal going - apart from regularly showcasing new content and the news, those involved with the Portal can still help with things like voting for FA status and so forth, so it'd be good if you want to help out in this area. I've also posted on the village pump to ask what would be a more appropriate 'meeting place' for Portal maintenance people - its talk page or a designated notice board in the Wikipedia name space. If you have any ideas on how we can organise ourselves, let me know. Many thanks, --HighHopes (T)&sdot; [ (+) ] &sdot;(C)&sdot;(E)&sdot;(P) 13:31, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

re: Cleanup Politics by country
thats it! thank you very much for your clean up. i just didnt like the mention of "article" as its rather self-referential and should use something like "topic" instead just like many other articles. well that is just my opinion. many ppl would think its ok. -- Zondor 13:34, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

yes, you can remove them. -- Zondor 13:39, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Disputed liberal character of Estonian Centre party
Dear Electionworld,

we were recently having a dispute about whether Estonian Centre Party might be called liberal. I just found out that there has already been a disussion on the same subject. I agree with the point of view of former Estonian politician Jüri Estam. I basically claimed the same. Please see []Constanz 16:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Electionwood and company think the Green Party is liberal. Or someone on here does.-gibby

Articles for deletion/Liberalism
Articles for deletion/Liberalism: would you consider changing your vote to speedy keep so we can get this over with? -- Jmabel | Talk 08:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Finding the Political Slant of Wikipedians
I was wondering for awhile about this, and I was figured you'd be the person to go to on this. Maybe a chart or something at one of the Wikiprojects based on scores from politicalcompass.org? I dunno, let me know what you think. karmafist 04:37, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I've heard at times that Wikipedia is inherently "Liberal" by some here and there due to its users. I'd like to see if that's true and also get a feeling how WP's users see things politically since I lean towards Metapedianism and i'm curious about such things. karmafist 15:51, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Ok, trying again
Ok, that's my idea -- users taking scores like that, and then putting them on something like this, and finding any patterns, if any. What do you think? karmafist 20:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

It's Getting There
That project of mine is growing by leaps and bounds, it's up to 8 people from 4 countries, and I was wondering if I could add your data. I also have a proposal for a legislature on Wikipedia i'm bandying about [|here], which I also figured you'd be interested in considering your website. karmafist 06:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

About WikiProject Politics
Hello, I noticed that you signed up for the Politics project. I would like your input on a notice template that I am working on, you can see it here. I have had some trouble finding a suitable image for it, so if you know of a more appropriate image or if you can suggest any changes that might improve the template, please drop a line. --Robert Harrisontalk contrib 06:50, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Belarussian political parties
Hello. I've seen that you put in every article about a belarussian political party, At the last legislative elections, 13-17 October 2004, which international observers considered not to be free and fair [...]. There's no need for you to make lobby here my friend, nor to vandalize all articles in a sort of mental perforation to Wikipedia's users and readers.

If some countries accuse the elecctions of having been fraudulent (CIS observers didn't say so), that should be put were it corresponds, in Politics of Belarus, but not in every article, because it is quite POV to include biased data everywhere and as if it were something absolutely clear, confirmed and undisputed.

Even being liberal, I assume that being in politics and all, yo know about American attempts to overthrow Lukashenko by any means; they cannot accept Belarus to continue mantaining its own tradition, economy and society. Belarus is permanently under violent agression and FUDding, like are Cuba, Venezuela and almost every country that opposes American general mandates.

Wikipedia can't continue with that. Wikipedia, according to the NPOV policy, must express all the existant positions on a given topic, sustaining them by sources and outside links. If you just want to vandalize something, keep your time and stay quiet. I deeply ask you to reconsider your attitude in that series of articles -I don't know you so as to determine that you're always like that-, and revert, fulfill and/or put where it should go, the information you introduced.
 * Great! You've just made it worse...

Insults
The way the depression and the totalitarian sections were phrased made the macroeconomic assumptions appear to be correct. Thus you give defacto support for their belief. Which you do in fact believe in. I called you a name because its taken this long just to get you to leave up PART of a segment where I defend liberal interpretations other than the one you support, to NOT GET COMPLETLY DELETED. Then you insult my position by calling it propaganda, thus showing your lack of intelligence. Hayek, and Friedman as propaganda? Yes that is what you insinuated! Again, I hate to call names, and I rarely do it. I only save it for the people who disserve it the most! -Gibby

Nothing was deleted until I discovered that my edits giving an alternative viewpoint of both the great depression and the rise of totalitarian dictators was deleted. I had first posted those in October then again in late novemeber. Once they were deleted twice, I reposted for a third time and began editing the page liberalism to reflect fact and theory rather than political rhetoric and propoganda. -Gibby

RFC against KDRGibby
I've filed an RFC against User:KDRGibby at Requests for comment/KDRGibby. You may add your own evidence concerning the user there. This is especially because you were involved in the Liberalism dispute, which I did not discover was in place until today when I checked his contributions. Thanks! -- Natalinasmpf 05:24, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Looking for feedback on a new toy
Hey Wilfried.

I've spent the past day or so playing with this chart, and seeing as its rather up your alley, I was curious to see if you had any feedback. I imagine it would make an interesting standalone page... personally, I've found it sometime frustrating to readily find a party of a particular tendency and see where it stands vis a vis transnational groups. Any thoughts, good or bad, edits, what have you would be appreciated. The Tom 08:13, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * When you say "Furthermore I would label Self Defense and Chr.Soc.P. Switzerland as left wing parties", did you mean "I would 'not label"? (They're on the left at present.) And if so, where would you propose they go instead?  Self-Defence is obviously an oddball for any left-right spectra, but the Polish pages from their past election indicated it's seen there as being on the left; there are ties to organized labour and there's a general pro-subsidy current to its platform.   The Christian Social Party seems to be a pretty straightforward leftist bunch&mdash;environmentalist, statist, pro-poor etc.  Probably one of the better examples of a party pretty uniformly tied to a Christian left ideology, actually The Tom 21:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Two things
One someone protected your page, so I can't fix the bad link to "[{Dover]]", secondly, do you know the current state of the Kyrgyz Legislature? The CIA is still claiming it's bicameral, but your last edit to that page changed it to unicameral, but in a sortof confused way. Thanx 68.39.174.238 17:24, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Venezuelan Elections
Hi there, thank you for your help on the venezuelan elections. I think using a template is a great idea. I think however that some information is missing, and thus changed one of the templates. Let me know how we can work together... Spaceriqui 21:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:Venezuelan_presidential_election%2C_2000

That looks better. I have a question for you (with your background as a lawyer and elections), have you ever seen an election where they make a reference to the total electorate instead of the participating voters to justify the "legitimacy" of the government? The situation is this; In the recent Venezuela parliamentary election, there was a low voter turnout of about 25%. The opposition more or less claims that the resulting gov't is illegitimate because of the low turnout and because the legislature does not proportionally represent the people (ie. Not every Venezuelan supports Chavez and his policies). The pro-gov. camp claims that even though only 25% voted, a larger proportion of Venezuelans supporting Chavez (for example 20% for Chavez compared to 11% of the electoral universe for Democratic Action (AD) in 1998) legitimizes the resulting gov't. Of course they choose to ignore that this gov't does not proportionally represent the people. For an example of this, take a look at the Venezuela page under the politics section.

Are there any historical references that would support one or the other or that in any way reference the electoral universe? Spaceriqui 21:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

You can add Venezuelan_parliamentary_election%2C_2000 to your list too.... Spaceriqui 23:23, 4 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi there. You asked, could you also add the number of votes and percentages of popular vote for each of the parties? - As I understand the offical results haven't been released yet.  They should be posted here or here.  I obtained the info regarding the votes and percentages from the source you submitted (IPU Parline).  I think that's good but we really need the CNE results.


 * There are also some additional indigenous seats. Do you have info about them? - Yes, I think all that information is already available.  Let me take a look at it and compile it in some form.  - Spaceriqui 17:39, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Something like this? It still needs to be cleaned up a bit. Will put up the Andean_Parliament results if you feel is necessary.  Let me know - Spaceriqui 02:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC)


 * You know what? I just realized I misunderstood your request. What you want is this.  I will work on that then and forget about the other two.  Spaceriqui 02:09, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Chilean elections
First, I don't think it's a good idea to standardize these election tables, because elections vary in nature from country to country. Second, I believe my table is more concise and easier to understand. —Cantus&hellip; &#9742;   00:52, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Tanzanian elections
I don’t have any percentage figures for the elections. I do have information on the 75 special seats allocated to women – CCM: 58, CUF: 11, and CHADEMA: 6. –Acntx 01:34, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Politics of Venezuela
I have withdrawn this move request. I think that both Gov't and Politic pages should remain the same until the information on these pages is more developed and warrants a page split.

On a different note, you may wish to participate in this more interesting debate. - Spaceriqui 22:08, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

KDRGibby
The request for arbitration concerning this user has been filed at Requests for arbitration. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais  (Be eudaimonic!) 10:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Talk:List of sovereign states
You participated in discussions on this page before. Would you care to say few words in re-openned debates about de facto independent, but unrecognized countries? Renata 02:05, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Electionworld.org
Hi, I was at electionworld.org just now, and I noticed that linked to Politics of the+Republic+of China instead of Politics of the Republic of China. -- ran (talk) 00:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Government of Ukraine and Politics of Ukraine
Hi,

You have recently blanked out Government of Ukraine and slighly messed with Politics of Ukraine (e.g., for whatever reason, you listed the president and the prime minister under the legislative branch). I certainly do not question your superb qualifications of a specialist in Ukrainian politics and government. However, would you mind asking for a regular discussion of article merge in the future, rather than destroying an article and putting redirects without any notification? Sashazlv 21:58, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Usage of coat of arms in "Politics of X" templates
I was told some time ago there was some sort of policy about using the coat of arms instead of the flag, but I did not look up whether there is an actual policy. About some examples with coats of arms, there are: Others use the flag, but I think there is a slight prevalence of coats of arms. Sometimes something entirely different, such as Template:Politics of Japan. I personally like the idea of the coat of arms&mdash;flags are ubiquitous and people see them all the time anyway. :-) --Orzetto 23:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Template:Politics of Portugal
 * Template:Politics of Spain
 * Template:Politics of Italy
 * Template:Politics of Germany
 * Template:Politics of Austria (seems they use both, superimposed?)
 * Template:Politics of the United States
 * Template:Politics of South Africa

your message
first of all hello there Electionworld,

there is no problem, however to my knowledge the politics template uses the flag or the state flag, not the coat of arms. Gryffindor 20:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Electionworld,

I have my reservations about this. Coat of arms are sometimes difficult to recognise, flags are more easily recognisable. For the specific case of European countries templates, I prefer to use the state flag. For two reasons: the flag is included, as well as the coat of arms, which I think is the perfect compromise for those who want a flag or a coat of arms. I hope we can agree on at least this? State flags are also specifically used for presidents, prime ministers, ministers, parliamentarians sometimes, which is what the template is about. I think it's a fair compromise. Gryffindor 11:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Why?
Did you delete my message on Talk:Classical Liberalism? I thought it was good wikimanners to NOT delete others talk messages. TrulyTory 16:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Western Sahara
Hi, why did you add a politics template in the Free Zone (region) and Independence Intifada? Such pages aren't included in other politics templates (they don't include geographical and manifestations articles). Plus, the template was removed from Independence Intifada after a long discussion. By the same way will you add a Morrocan template in the Southern Provinces article? Thanks :). Daryou 17:42, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, and very nice job! cheers. Daryou 18:43, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Why did you delete the sentence: "The issue of Western Sahara's sovereignty is unresolved. The flag above is the flag of the  Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic"? This template is used in many pages with the titles: President of Western Sahara.. etc. A clarification is necessary, thanks. Daryou 20:11, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * However "This article is part of the series: Politics and government of Western Sahara" as anyone can read in the template. Daryou 22:28, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

VWN en WCN
Beste allemaal Al enige tijd is er een Nederlandstalig chapter in oprichting, te vinden op http://nl.wikimedia.org. Dit wordt de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland (VWN). Je kunt je interesse om lid te worden van deze vereniging hier aangeven.

Deze vereniging gaat eind augustus/begin september een Wikimedia Conferentie in Nederland (WCN) houden, volgend op Wikimania in Boston, gedeeltelijk erop inspelend middels een aantal discussiegroepen. Om iets dergelijks te organiseren is imput erg gewenst. Dus als je wilt meehelpen, of als je interesse hebt om bij een dergelijk evenement aanwezig te zijn, geef dat dan aan op nl.wikimedia. Ik hoop daar snel je imput tegemoet te zien! Met vriendelijke groet, effeietsanders 13:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Peru
Please have a say at List of political parties in Peru. It is constantly vandalized. --Soman 10:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for edit summary
Hi. I am a bot, and I am writing to you with a request. I would like to ask you, if possible, to use edit summaries a bit more often when you contribute. The reason an edit summary is important is because it allows your fellow contributors to understand what you changed; you can think of it as the "Subject:" line in an email. For your information, your current edit summary usage is 43% for major edits and 43% for minor edits. (Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits in the article namespace.)

This is just a suggestion, and I hope that I did not appear impolite. You do not need to reply to this message, but if you would like to give me feedback, you can do so at the feedback page. Thank you, and happy edits, Mathbot 08:30, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Protection
Seeing as you are an Administrator on Wikipedia, can you please protect these pages (Peru-Bolivian Confederation, War of the Pacific, Peru). They are currently undergoing revert wars between Messhermit and an IP. I'm not taking any sides (for now) but I think that the pages should be protected.--Jersey Devil 17:18, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm one of the parties involed in the rv war. The other user clearly starting imposing its POV and does not allow a proper discussion. Please, protect the article until this conflict is resolved. Messhermit 03:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd like all three articles to be protected (the ones I listed above). Messhermit came to me asking if I could interfere in the edits claiming that the IP was using POV edits (how right this is I'm not so sure). What I do know however is looking at the page history there are just a bunch of reverts from Messhermit and the IP with edit summaries like the typical summaries you see in a revert war "This is POV!" "No this is not POV!" and so on. It would be bad for future users to see that kind of stuff happening in those three articles and both sides seem unwilling to cool off and end their reverts. So the articles need to be protected and any changes discussed in the talk page. What version of it is protected isn't really relevant, the point is just to end the revert war. As a matter of fact, the last time I saw the protected page template it specifically said that protected status is not an endorsement of the version of the page--Jersey Devil 22:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi there
As someone with an interest in psephology, and with an extensive research collection, would you be able to contribute to Gallagher Index? At the moment, it is really only about the index itself and does not compare electoral systems used by different countries. Essentially, I would like to see Wikipedia have an up to date (and constantly updated) version of Arend Lijphart's Electoral Systems and Party Systems. While I would like to do this, I am bit constrained in that I am still learning this area, and doing my honours degree (in Political Science at Victoria University of Wellington). Cheers, --Midnighttonight 03:25, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Politics of Puerto Rico
Hi. I have made some edits to. I corrected some links, accents, added vote counts and a link to the election results. I hope you don't mind. Joelito 23:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I wanted to thank you for showing interest in Puerto Rican politics. Your contributions have been great. Thank you very much!&lt;&lt;Coburn_Pharr&gt;&gt; 03:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Elections results vs current composition
Hello Electionworld!

You have recently added a template to article LIX Legislature of the Mexican Congress which is ok and a great contribution but you have also removed two tables that were showing the composition of the senate and the composition of the chamber of deputies.

Please note that the templates you are adding show the election results but not the current composition of the lower or upper house. After elections some politicians resign to their parties or change to another party (i.e. Addy Joaquín Coldwell was elected senator representing the PRI but she is now in the Senate as a PAN Senator; Tatiana Clouthier was elected deputy in 2003 by the proportional representation system representing the PAN but she resigned and now serves as an independent deputy. So figures shown on the templates are ok but does not reflect the current composition.

I will put back previous tables to article LIX Legislature of the Mexican Congress

Saludos, --Abögarp 23:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Politics of Iraq Template
Thanks for changing this - looks much better now! AndrewRT 11:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Using templates for elections
Was there any discussion of this? I've suggested something similar at Talk:I-95 exit list and everyone seems worried that they might be breaking guidelines. Rich  Farmbrough 02:39 15  March 2006 (UTC).

Ideological positioning of the Labour_Party_%28UK%29
Could you pls comment on the issue on Labour party talk page; I'm tyred of this party being called 'democratic socialist' albeit such labelling is just as misguiding as if one labelled Social Democratic Party of Portugal as 'soc dem' instead of conservative. --Constanz - Talk 09:47, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Politics of Israel Template
Without sounding redundant: Great work. --Shuki 23:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Shortnames of UK political parties
I've reverted your changes to the shortnames, because they made the titles considerably longer, without providing any obvious clarification. They are used in a very large number of articles, and in most of these, brevity is of the essence (the 2005 general election results template is unusual in allowing plenty of space for these). Warofdreams talk 03:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Politics_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago
I am not sure what you were trying to do, but I don't think that this edit achieved quite what you wanted. Guettarda 19:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Bosnian Politics Template Question
the bih constitution says "chair" not chairman, as there may be a chairwoman. this doesn't really matter as the country is undergoing constitutional changes which will institute a real prime minister. this is why i don't really understand why you changed the template... can you provide an answer? thx Ogidog--67.172.1.76 20:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * What did I change? Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 21:22, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Politics templates
The politics templates are explicitly designed to go to the bottom of the article, not the top. Please refrain from moving them, as it makes the article difficult to read initially. Furthermore, you need to discuss large-scale changes before making them. Dysprosia 01:05, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

El Salvador
Wilfried, do you know what is going on in El Salvador? Why has the TSE website been offline ever since the elections? Adam 02:19, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject merger
Hi!

Per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Campaigns and Elections, would you object to merging the old, apparently inactive WikiProject (of which you were a member) into the newly created one at WikiProject Elections and Referenda? I initially created mine without having found out that yours existed, and in an afterthought realized that the "Campaigns" part of the old project's title might not really be suitable, though I may of course be wrong on that. Either way, please let me hear what you think; I've got a number of proposals ready to be discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Elections and Referenda, and would greatly welcome your input! Cheers, &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 15:32, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Elections in New Caledonia
Howdy EW. I like your pages a lot. Regarding New Caledonian politics, that article states that the local Congress is composed of electees from the four regions. However, to the best of my knowledge, those four regions were abolished over a decade ago and replaced with the present three provinces. Do you know something I don't? :] // Big Adamsky  •  BA's talk page 21:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Monarch Pages
I've noticed that you have added several small articles titled "Monarch of _____" which briefly explain that HRM Queen Elizabeth is the rescognized head of state in several commonwealth realms. Although I appreciate that the articles are well written and well formatted, they are all, in so far as I can tell, duplicates. I put Jamaica's article up for deletion, but I would like you to consider if perhaps this series of articles wouldnt be better off being merged into the articles for their parent countries. Dalamori 09:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

... I Added to the AFD that Perhaps a redirect to the appropriate section of the parent article would be best. Dalamori 09:40, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Just a question
Hi. I thought that placing the upper house of parliament first would correspond to the executive format in each template. In each template, the head of state is always listed before the head of government regardless of his/her powers, so I felt that the same should be done when dealing with the legislative branch. The upper house of parliament, despite its level of power, has a higher standing in the legislative branch than the lower house does. Acntx 09:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Ugandan parliamentary elections
I have been unable to find the final results of the 23 February 2006 parliamentary election in Uganda. Have you found anything? Thanks. Acntx 09:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Council of State
I see you changed article's name from "Conseil d' Etat (Greece)" to "Council of State (Greece)". The choice of the right term was a problem for me ... I chose the french term(Conseil d' Etat), because : Anyway, this is my argumentation, but I do not intend to insist. If you still think that the english term is the most appropriate, I will keep the english term as you changed it and I'll replace the french term, wherever I've placed it. Yannismarou 17:19, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The institution itself is of french origine and influence. Greeks copied and imitated the respective french institution.
 * The " Council of State" as an institution is completely unknown to the legal tradition of the english law system. I also think that it is not well-known as an english term as well.
 * I saw that the respective institution of Switcherland (which is a multi-language nation) is also named "Conseil d' Etat". That's the title of the respective article of Wikipedia.
 * The french "Council State" is named "Conseil d' Etat" in the respective article of the english Wikipedia. Why isn't it named "Council of State" as it should according to your opinion and it remains in french?!
 * All Greek jurists, that I have heard, never used the english term to describe it, but they have repeatedely used the french term, which is not used as a simple french term, but as a generally accepted international term.

If there is a problem with Wikipedia's rules, I won't insist. From the english terms (Counsel State, Counsel of State, Council of State etc.), the term you chose seems to me the most appropriate and the most close one to the used french term. So, let's keep it this way. Yannismarou 17:39, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

If I understand well your question, you ask me what the greek term (Συμβούλιο της Επικρατείας)means. Well, it's a simple translation of the french term: Συμβούλιο (=french=Conseil, english=Council) της (french = d(e), english = of), Επικρατείας (french = Etat, english = State). Yannismarou 17:51, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Liberal democracy
Hi. Please see Administrators' noticeboard/3RR Ultramarine 00:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Hetz
Hetz means arrow, which is the only accurate translation I can think of. -- Y Ynhockey (Talk) Y 10:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Your page links to a Disambig.
On your user page, if you desire to fix the link to a disambiguation page, Malaga should be Málaga when referring to the city in Spain. - Bladeswin 23:05, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello.

I have slightly edited the " Democratic Party of Serbs" article.The genuine name of the party (in FYR Macedonian language) is "Demokratska Partija na Srbite vo Makedonija",and its known by the acronym DPSM ( ДПСМ ).I would like to ask you to change the title of the article, since I lack the technical know-how to do it by myself.Thank You.

Revert to Venstre (Denmark)
That was a quick response, cap off :) I think the anon editor was trying to create something like the infoboxes used for German, US, and Estonian political parties (just to mention the three examples I've come across). Do you know if any standard "political party" infobox exists or are they all country specific? Btw, my compliments on your "Politics of ..." project. Very nice work. Regards Valentinian (talk) 20:40, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Italy election tables
Do we really need all those other parties outside Cdl and Unione (excl. the South American slate that won seats) in the bottom of the tables where they all got less than 0.5%? I'm hesitant to remove them because someone put them there for some reason, but I don't think they're conveying much useful information. BTW interesting revisions to the abroad seats layout. Not totally convinced that's the best option but it'll do better than cramming in all that text. Kelvinc 01:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It has something to do with me valuing life less the more crap people do with it, and my view that private taking of life and state taking of life are different matters.
 * In any case, you may be interested to know that I have moved all my ubx's off my user page because I'm sick of them being randomly screwed up by deletions and bot reformats.


 * On a more pleasant note, I was a big fan of the Electionworld site, and I'm happy to know that I can actually participate in working on its Wikified successor here.
 * Kelvinc 23:35, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Template:Chadian parliamentary election, 2002
Hi, I just wanted to ask if we really have to put the French names of the parties in the template. All the parties listed have an active link that brings to the specific party article where the original French party name is always given. Also I don't quite understand why you removed the party acronymous. Regards,--Aldux 21:24, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Sahrawi National Council & other articles
I'm not sure it's appropriate to list the Polisario as a party holding all these offices. The SNC members aren't elected on party slates, as there is no party system at all in the SADR, but as individuals candidating on their own. In practice, they certainly belong to Polisario, since the whole institution forms a part of Polisario, but that's not how or why they are elected.

Other than that, I appreciate what you're doing to systematize the political articles. Arre 00:38, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Elections in Puerto Rico
In re of Elections in Puerto Rico, see Puerto Rico General Elections of 2004 for an example of the last elections. &mdash;Joseph | Talk 07:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

A copyright concern
I recently added some quotations by Ludwig von Mises on socialism. However, my source seems to be rather demanding on copyright issues, stating ''All rights reserved, including the right of reproduction in whole or in part in any form. Brief quotations may be included in a review, and all inquiries should be addressed to Liberty Fund. ''. Does it mean that it would be better not to have these quotes on wikiquote page?--Constanz - Talk 08:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Ukrainian presidential election, 2004
Hi. Regarding the table in that article: it is obviously mistaken. If you were really :) reading the article before adding the info, you should have noticed that Viktor Yanukovych (not Yuschenko) was declared the winner of the 2nd vote. That's why we started that revolution :)))). But your table states just opposite, indicating that Yuschenko came first. You (or somebody) must have been misplaced the numbers of two candidates. This mistake is so freaking obvious that you just shouldn't contradict :). So, please, don't take the issue as disputed (cause it's definitely not) and don't start edit war.

I'll check sources and you'd better check them too :). May be we shall solve the problem by adding some notice beneath the table. But please DO NOT remove the template. It, BTW, may be considered propaganda by our Muscovian friends. I mean Yuschenko has never been officially proclaimed winner of the second round of election. If we state that in table - we're kind of "rewriting history". You don't want that, do you? Best wishes, AlexPU 16:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Just in case, I'm a professional political analyst (although equipped with poor English) and immediate participant of that election campaign. AlexPU 16:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi again. I removed the "accuracy" template after changing both the article and your template. See talk. Best wishes, AlexPU 17:37, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Politics template
Um, the politics template you're adding to many templates is really ugly. Could you perhaps add it only to the articles which are linked to from that template? Otherwise many articles get bloated up. -- infinity  0  21:18, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Um, Ugly or not ugly, I don't know. The template is placed in all articles mentioned in the Portal:Politics. When the article has allready another template, like Template:Anarchism sidebar, it is not added, since that template links also to the Portal:Politics. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 21:23, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Bucklin voting & (Template)
In your edit the  template interferes with the Tennessee map (When viewed with small fonts or wide windows) (It's actually funny seeing the map fall on top of the other charts you can play around with Control Scroll to change the font and see how it plays out). I noticed you added this template to allot of the pages about voting that are on my watch-list. Isn't that template a bit to overwhelming for that page? Maybe a smaller template on just voting would be more appropriate.--E-Bod 03:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

An old Archived issue related to this one is on User_talk:Electionworld/Archive--E-Bod 04:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comment. The article is one of the articles listed in the Portal:Politics. All these articles have now this template, except when there is another template of an Politics series involved (e.g. Template:Socialism sidebar. It helps people finding related pages. A seperate votings template is certainly a good idea, but as long as it isn't made, I prefer using this template. Shall we make that template? Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 07:17, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * OK Thanks for making the Template more manageable. I like the templates on the bottom better such as in the Retina page.  It has one template for each of the parts of the retina and another template for each other main part of the eye plus each template shows the progressive from The whole to the part.  A template like That template looks really good and won't interferer with images on the page.  By the way Somebody else reverted the edit i linked to earlier .  The current template is better than the one i commented earlier but still is a bit to general.  O would suggest somebody use the retina template.  I just have a problem with a template that overwhelms the page.  but now the template is mare tolerable.  but the template should be fixed to look good before we go crazy adding an overly long template to each loosely related page under an out of scope topic.  One template on Politics is to general for very specific sub-sub-subcategories.  Something like Politics-Democracy-Election-Voting system-Bucklin voting or some other break down with only links to larger groups back in the train, smaller rows Dow the train and side groups on it's level.  we can have grand fathers brothers and grand children but not 5th cousins.--E-Bod 20:15, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Side or bottom is a question of taste. I prefer side. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 20:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm Like bottom so we can agree to disagree. But i don't like it when side links interfere with pictures on a page or make the text to narrow.  I think a side bar is Ok when it is small.  Thanks for making is smaller.  When it is on the botom it is like a neat "see alos" box.--E-Bod 00:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Great now!!!
OK this edit looks great thanks for using a more Perice template {{Elections} instead of the template no longer overwhelms the page--E-Bod 20:37, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Perfect. Love it.  Really helpfull. :^D --E-Bod 21:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Steward
You asked on you talk page

"I am an administrator under my old user account User:Wilfried Derksen, but I do not know how to move the adminship to my new account. Therefore for administrator work I use the old account. I am also involved in the Dutch Wikipedia."

Answer: You can't Ask a Bureaucrat or Steward--E-Bod 03:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Soft redirect
May I suggest a Soft redirect for your old talk page. All Bots are required to stop when there is a message so I assume the same for a user. On your old user page you can tell people to leave a comment on this talk page and to make a space edit (add or remove a blank space to append an edit summary) on that talk page so you can get the message prompted. I can't find where you moved this comment to. (Ironically I had make a link to the comment this user was talking about in looking for that comment with out realizing I found it. LOL.  It so weird how some things piece together so perfectly)--E-Bod 04:28, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Politics and Democracy series templates
Nice job cleaning these up. I was thinking of doing something similar, but this is nice and clean. --Christian Edward Gruber 16:22, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I must say, adding the big bold links (i.e. politics and political ideologies links) to the tops of the various political ideology templates is (no offense) unnecessary and ugly. Unnecessary because they all have the link to the politics portal, most have a text link to political ideology, and they all have the political ideologies entry points template which has all the same links.  Ugly because it obscures the primary title and point of the template, and also it removes the "Part of the series" language.  Again, please take no offense.  I just think it's a bad move.  I removed it from the Christian Democracy template (because that's the one I really care about).    GUÐSÞEGN  – UTEX – 22:47, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * As above I find the recent proliferation of sideboxes in politics article highly un-necessary - especially Template:Elections-small. Please consider ameliorating them as footer templates. Otherwise, they truly deface many articles. I'll return to this in depth when time permits.–cj | talk 05:52, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

With regard to Template:Fascism sidebar, why do you keep eliminating the graphic from the top of the template? Furthermore, could you please discuss changing it a bit on the talk page before going ahead and doing it? I see from the rest of your talk page that these changes aren't always welcome, especially when they're unannounced. --Stlemur 09:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Hong Kong politics template
Re - The government of Hong Kong and Hong Kong Government articles are different. The former is a topical article on the three branches of government, a subarticle of the politics one, like those of the US, France and Japan. The latter is specifically about the executive branch. See also talk:government of Hong Kong. &mdash; Instantnood 18:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 *  It should have been moved to government of Hong Kong . But you can tell the reason why from talk:government of Hong Kong. The only thing we can do is to link to it, although it's not yet named correctly. &mdash; Instantnood 19:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 *  I don't quite agree with the merge. Government can be separate articles from the ones on politics, as demonstrated by the examples above. &mdash; Instantnood 20:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 *  It's not quite a temp article, despite its present title. It was intended to be retitle immediately when the move request of the not properly titled article has been passed. &mdash; Instantnood 00:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Your templates
Every single template I go on now, it seems you have either created or at least edited. It's getting ridiculous. Skinnyweed 21:49, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Templates, Part II
Hey - I noticed as I edit more geography, I see your templates added - VERY NICE WORK. Keep it up, contributions like yours are always appreciated (nevermind what others may say). Rarelibra 22:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Removing politics information
Hi, I find the changes that you are making to articles, removing usseful and concise politics sections from country articles to be disruptive and made without the concensus of the editors working on the page. Furthermore, the sections will have to be rewritten if someone wants to get the article up to featured stndard. Please desist.--Peta 21:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Politics_of_Kosovo
You made a misteik. Kosovo isn't a country but a provence

Cuba
Hi, please see for more information on Cuba, democracy and wikipedia.--Zleitzen 20:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

RJII
RJII has put his stamp on just about every article on liberalism in Wikipedia, and the results, it seems to me, are a bunch of repetitious expository lumps that assert that 1) no classical liberal ever advocated government action to promote the general welfare and 2) all so called modern liberals advocate nothing else but government action to promote the general welfare. This seems to me at best a slanted view of what liberalism is all about, and the repetition results in paragraphs that argue with themselves, which is bad writing. On the other hand, you and I have spent a lot of time trying to get this under control, with little effect -- when I try to read any of the liberalism articles today I find myself at a loss as to how to salvage them. Any suggestions? Rick Norwood 13:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Politicsboxend
Greetings, noticing that you were the originator of this fine template I felt it right to notify you that I've recently developed something along the same lines (but for a much more general application) called Template:Tnavbar. I've just integrated Tnavbar into Template:Politicsboxend and wondered what your opinion was on it? Essentially Tnavbar is my taking a stab at standardizing easy access to Navigational Guide templates (and their bretheren) so that the average Wikipedian (and not only us more technically oriented Template spacers) can contribute more easily on this level of the project. Tnavbar appears to be well recieved so far by the Wikipedia community and I'm now noticing fellow editors independently integrating it into other templates. Being that the similarities between our templates are fairly significant I thought that I'd invite you to join the discussion about it on Template_talk:Tnavbar if you'd like/have the time. Also, I noticed that Template:Communism sidebar is full protected (I'm guessing by yourself) when I tried to incorporate Tnavbar... is there any chance that it could merely be semi-protected so that editors like myself could contribute on it? Thanks. Netscott 00:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Greetings again, I noticed the change you made to and saw that they corresponded better to the already existing  so I made the edit to Politicsboxend. Netscott 17:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Your timing is impeccable as another editor wanted exactly the same thing at the same time... ergo creation of Template:Tnavbar-plain. Thanks. Netscott 17:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Native names added in the List of countries
As there is already a List of countries by native names and the List of countries is also available in different languages, I think it is not necessary to add the native names of the countries, especially due to the fact that many of them composes of non-English letters. DD Ting 08:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism on Estonian Independence Party
I see that it's you who created this article. Unfortunately there's a troll/vandal attacking this article and claiming the party is 'fascist' etc. I've already reported reprted it as vandalism, but User:£ has not been blocked yet. Well, you're an admin, you could do smth about it.--Constanz - Talk 14:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

How to block a user
Hi, I'm Wai Hong. As you're an administrator, I would like your help in blocking a user. It's User:Aiman abmajid. He has been writing many poorly written articles on Malaysia-related topics. He frequently starts single-sentence articles which are quite redundant. Besides, he lacks grammatical skills and frequently writes in poit form. Some of his articles needed to be cleaned up because of his poor language skills. I'm certain that more than one user is frustrated by him.

I hope you can do some thing about this. See the article Southern Integrated Gateway to see the way he writes in point form.Wai Hong 14:06, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

List of countries
Okay, I'll lay off, since we're conflicting. I assume you're trying to add Montenegro and Serbia.  O Z L AWYER   talk  20:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I know it was unintentional. It's successor.  O Z L AWYER   talk   20:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Brazilian Elections
All the results of Brazilian elections, since the restoration of democracy (and even for the period 1946-62), can be found on. This is the Banco of Datos Eletorais de Brazil, a site by Jairo Nicolau, doctor of Political Sciences at the IUPERJ-Instituto Universitàrio de Pesquisas de Rio de Janeiro (on the web: ).

I don't have time now for doing all the work alone, so I just begun. If you want you can work on it... Checco 17:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC) [a long time fan of Electionworld.org]

P.s.: In your page you say that you visited a city in Tuscany (Italy) called Sienna, but the real name is Siena and indeed the link is not appropriate.

Cooperative NATCCO Network Party
Hi, there!

You advocacy of liberalism is great. However, I would like to point out an entry you created in 2007. Cooperative NATCCO Partylist is a party created by the National Confederation of Cooperatives (or NATCCO Network) in 1997. Let me point out that there are two distinct organizations here - the Partylist which legislates cooperative-friendly laws in the Philippine Congress and the NATCCO Network, which is a co-operative federation composed of 730 cooperatives. The latter provides services to cooperatives to improve their operations and provide business opportunities. We will appreciate if you can drop the word "Network" from Cooperative NATCCO Network Party and make it instead "Cooperative NATCCO Partylist." Thanks!