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"Linkedin" and "IMDB" are not reliable sources.

As articles must show "significant coverage in independent reliable sources" (WP:GNG), Dave Alex Riddett does not currently meet the notability requirements.

See also WP:BIO.  Chzz  ► 12:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Dave Alex Riddett
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Hey, thanks for finding out Soule's date of birth! -- Pres N  18:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

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Re:Monkey Island
Hey, its great to hear that someone else wants to get the other Monkey Island articles up to scratch. I always wanted to, but these days I lack the time. The key thing with an article such as this is to get your sources. After that, the rest falls into place. As you say, its needs a Gameplay section; that should be an easy task if you do something similar to what's in Day of the Tentacle and Sam & Max Hit the Road.

You've made a good start on the Development section, though make sure to comb those sources you've found for every nugget of information they can give. I'd also advise asking at WT:VG if anyone else has some useful print sources that cover development—that worked for me when doing Hit the Road. The game has to have had a feature in Retrogamer or some similar publication that you can use. You probably won't get the intricate detail that's in Maniac Mansion's development section (unless Gilbert did a full presentation on making Monkey Island too) but I'd reckon there should be enough sources to get something equivalent to Grim Fandango or Sam & Max Hit the Road.

The Reception section is going to be the tricky one. Finding reviews for old games can be quite hard, but not impossible. You're going to need to find as many contemporary print sources as you can—this isn't a one-man job, people at WT:VG should be able to help with this—and then aim to build something equivalent to Day of the Tentacle's reception section to begin with. If there's enough sources, it may be possible to create something similar to the reception section in Maniac Mansion, but start small until you've worked out exactly how many sources you can use. A game like the Secret of Monkey Island is liable to need an Impact/Legacy section too, so be vigilant for more modern references such as listings in top games of all time, being cited as an inspiration for someone else, etc etc. Again, check the other GA+ rated articles to see what's needed.

You'll need to deal with the special edition at some point, do that in a separate section towards the end. Just give a concise account of its development and its reception, which should be quite easy given the amount of Internet sources available, and maybe garnish with a comparison image similar to this. But focus on dealing with the original before worrying about this. Lastly, get rid of the entire Injokes section. Its all trivia, though if you find anything that can be referenced, work it into the development section. That play and the GrogXD thing can probably be worked into the Legacy section, and it would be nice to keep something on the stump joke if it can be sourced, but kill the rest of it.

Hope that helps provide some direction and tips. If you need help on images, copyeditting, or so on, let me know. -- Sabre (talk) 12:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll give it a going over when I get a spare moment! -- Sabre (talk) 23:34, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the lack of replies. I've fallen a bit ill these last few days, so haven't had much chance to really do anything. I'll try to get back on it later in the week. -- Sabre (talk) 13:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Great. The more the merrier and the quicker things will go. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC))
 * I'm always hesitant to use sources outside my usual ones, but really we have leeway for reception sources that we're citing only for opinion. That fact a previous FA used it strengthens the argument for it. I say go for it. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:11, 10 November 2011 (UTC))
 * Please feel free to make what ever edits you think will improve the article. A "Gameplay" section needs to be added if you feel up to it (I've never played the game).
 * If you'd like to start a discussion to get input from me, Sabre, and Jimmy, you can start a centralized discussion at Talk:The Secret of Monkey Island. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC))


 * Hey, no problem. Just happy I could help out with something in the article. The reason I've not been able to do much with it is that I just don't have the time to sit down, research and write articles anymore, real life now gets in the way with its own research and writing! Its annoying, because there are many more articles I'd like to tackle. -- Sabre (talk) 12:32, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I think its now in brilliant shape. You guys have done good work. It just needs one last look-over for spelling/grammar/poor sentence structure, then it should easily pass GA! -- Sabre (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

PC Gamer UK scans
Sorry; I don't have access to that issue. I know of some Computer Gaming World material that I can get to you, though. Give me a day or two to track it down. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 14:59, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, here's one piece already: . JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not available for copyediting, unfortunately--too busy right now. However, if you don't mind a sluggish pace, I'd be willing to write the Reception section for The Secret of Monkey Island. I noticed that you've done some amazing work on that article, and I'd love to see it reach GA. I'm familiar with the ins-and-outs of finding reviews for old games, so getting sources won't be a problem for me. Tell me if you're interested. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 16:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. I did a very brief copyediting run-through of the Development section to iron out a few problems. That's all I'll be able to do copyediting-wise, thanks to my tight schedule. I'll start compiling reviews for the Reception section soon. I'm up for writing it, but, if you'd rather do it yourself, I could simply link you to the material I dig up. Your call; I don't want to impose. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 19:10, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. I'll see about getting you a few more sources for Full Throttle. I might not have any more really good development stuff (not sure yet), but there's definitely some reviews I could track down. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:17, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. I'll just focus on writing SMI's Reception section, then. If I come across any more FT development info in old magazines, I'll let you know. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 15:36, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry; I'm just working really slowly. Typically, I start by gathering source material and writing out the citations (because they take forever), and then writing the prose afterwards. There are still a few more reviews I need to find and cite before I start writing, but I should be finished looking for reviews in the next day or two. Again, sorry for the wait. I've got a lot going on off-Wiki. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 16:25, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Full Throttle
Welcome! I'll see what I can do. If I dont' back to you in a little while, bother me so I remember :) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 13:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just started working through my databases. Send me an email and I'll reply with PDFs of relevant materials. I've got some decent capsule reviews for reception, if nothing else. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 18:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

RE: Possible work for me
It really depends on your interests. I see that you're into working on Lucasarts adventure games, so you might consider editing The Curse of Monkey Island, which is in pretty dire condition. Loom (video game) and The Dig are also good candidates. It shouldn't be too hard to find sources for most of those--and I'd be willing to help dig up interviews and reviews if necessary.

If you're sick of working on Lucasarts articles but still want to stay in the realm of adventure games, you could consider switching over to Sierra's output. King's Quest: Quest for the Crown is technically one of the project's most important articles, but it's in bad shape. Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Fathers is another possibility.

If none of that sounds good, I'm not sure what to recommend. You could check out WikiProject Video games/Essential articles and see if anything jumps out at you. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 23:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Like I said, you might want to look at WikiProject Video games/Essential articles. It shows all kinds of important articles that need work. Doom (video game), Diablo (video game), Tomb Raider, Civilization (video game), GoldenEye 007 (1997 video game), Shenmue, Resident Evil (video game)--and that just scratches the surface. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:21, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Krondor is pretty important. I'd be up for helping you get sources if you wanted to work on that. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. There's a "Making of Betrayal at Krondor" in issue 84 of Retro Gamer. I think User:MuZemike has access to that issue, so you might try asking him for scans. This is an online version of COMPUTE!'s review of the game. Here is a CGW feature on the game. CGW gave the game RPG of the year in this issue. Feist's introduction in the manual (download here) might also be a good source. That's all I've got for now. More later. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:03, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, this book contains a fair amount of information about the game. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Possibly. I'm busy right now, but you aren't going to need a copyediting sweep for quite awhile. I may have time by then. Good luck with the article. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh well—I was looking forward to seeing what you did with Krondor. Anyway, a Looking Glass collaboration sounds doable. Would Thief II work? There's a huge amount of web-based reference material on the talk page, so sourcing won't be a problem. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to. I'll try to get started on Reception and Gameplay before too long. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 21:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I've been finishing up other stuff in preparation for Thief II, anyway. Take your time. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 09:51, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * What kind of information do you need, exactly? I have a fair amount of LGS-related material that I've gathered while working on other articles. If I knew what to look for, I could probably find what you want. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 04:07, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Let me see what I can get. Go ahead and add what you've written to Development, and I'll try to find the information that's missing from the first paragraph. It'll probably be a few days before I can work on it, though. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, happy new year to you too. Nothing would have happened on SMI if it wasn't for your initial great work on the Development section, so most of the credit goes to you. As for FAC, I'm not sure. It's a really challenging process, and we'd probably have to polish the article quite a bit to make it. If you're interested in trying for it, you could nominate SMI for a peer review; that's generally where people go before FAC. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:00, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Fable 2
I'm kind of swamped with work in The Real World™ and with arbitration stuff, but I'll try and help out where possible. Cheers, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk ) 14:19, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Maniac Mansion FAC
Electroguv- I'm not sure if you are watching the relevant page, but SandyGeorgia (one of the FA delegates) posted a question about your support at Featured article candidates/Maniac Mansion/archive1. If you could please clarify your statement, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC))

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This is a notice to all users who currently have at least one open peer review at Peer review. Because of the large number of peer review requests and relatively low number of reviewers, the backlog of PRs has been at 20 or more almost continually for several months. The backlog is for PR requests which have gone at least four days without comments, and some of these have gone two weeks or longer waiting for a review.

While we have been able to eventually review all PRs that remain on the backlog, something had to change. As a result of the discussion here, the consensus was that all users are now limited to one (1) open peer review request.

If you already have more than one open PR, that is OK in this transition period, but you cannot open any more until all your active PR requests have been closed. If you would like someone to close a PR for you, please ask at Wikipedia talk:Peer review. If you want to help with the backlog, please review an article whoe PR request is listed at Peer review/backlog/items. Thanks, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:52, 3 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry it took so long, but I made detailed comments on Peer review/The Secret of Monkey Island/archive1 Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 13:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * You are very welcome - please let me know when it is at FAC. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:55, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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