User talk:Elethomel

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:HemaCare


A tag has been placed on Draft:HemaCare, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the.  DGG ( talk ) 10:27, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, Elethomel. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Conflict of interest);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:27, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Reply
Hi, thanks for message. I deleted your article because
 * it did not provide adequate independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines.  It is now Wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references, as defined in the link, or they will be deleted. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites  claims or interviewing its management. I'd accept that you have tried to reference what you have written, but some key text is unreffed or reffed to unacceptable sources, for example this, which says At HemaCare, we recognize and isn't therefore an independent source.
 * The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
 * significant coverage in
 * independent,
 * multiple,
 * reliable,
 * secondary sources.
 * Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability. The article is supposed to be about the company, but Your text was all about what the companyn sells, little about the company itself other than locations. To show notability you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits. We can't really tell of if actually meets our notability criteria,


 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. You include ®, but it's not our job to protect their registered marks, looks spammy. Examples of unsourced or self-sourced claims presented as fact include: to become one of the leading providers... a safe and effective procedure... HemaCare has performed over 300,000 apheresis collections over the last 40 years... one of the largest providers... All of HemaCare’s RUO and GMP-compliant products adhere to FDA and EMA guidelines... These donors play an important part in accelerating research and in finding cures for life-threatening diseases... Donor safety is a priority and all donations involve complete anonymity for the donor.
 * there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * The fact that other articles have not been deleted doesn't help you, either they met the criteria or should be deleted as well. See What about article x?. Also note that many articles would have been accepted before the notability guidelines were made stricter.

Thank you for stating that you have no conflict of interest when editing this article.Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article.

There's no point restoring the text unless you can confirm that the company meets the notability criteria I've linked above and that you can improve the refs. If that's the case, I'd be prepared to restore, but since it was nominated for deletion and then deleted by me while still a draft, I would have to edit the text to avoid immediate redeletion. Let me know if you wish to proceed. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:46, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jim, thanks so much for taking the time to write this response, it's really helpful. I think I had been putting way too much emphasis on what other existing pages looked like rather than working to the guidelines. Don't worry about restoring the old text, I have an older word version I can work from and it seems like it will need a complete re-write anyway to be of any use. I'm going to switch gears for a while and look at bringing a few other pages up to date. Thanks again for all of your help, I really appreciate it. Elethomel (talk) 21:33, 6 December 2019 (UTC)