User talk:Elietaktouk

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Hi. The term Maronite Catholic is widely used. I suggest you google Maronite Catholic Church and see the interesting results. There are Parish all around the world all known as Maronite Catholic Churches. Please click on the link below. The article will give you some detailed background about the Maronites. http://www.cnewa.us/default.aspx?ID=56&pagetypeID=9&sitecode=US&pageno=1 The Maronites are Catholic but their rites are slightly different to the Roman Catholic Church. When you have done your digging, let me know. I am sure you will discover that I am right, maybe even infallible:)

Carlos Slim
Hi, I have just changed your edit at Carlos Slim where you changed Maronite Christian to Maronite Catholic. Technically, you are correct but in the real world I think you will find that most people do not use your term but rather the one that was already stated. I'll do some digging on this and I am happy to admit my mistake if it turns out that way - it is an interesting observation! Thanks for doing what you did and feel free to push your point as I am certainly not always right. I don't think that even the Pope is called infallible nowadays (did that idea not go out in the 1960s?) ... and I ain't the Pope! - Sitush (talk) 00:14, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Please will you discuss this. Yet again you have substituted "Catholic" for "Christian". If you do some digging around you will find that the more usual term is the latter, and it has been in the article for some time. If you think otherwise then provide the evidence please. - Sitush (talk) 11:07, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Update, using Google Scholar - Catholic (276 hits), Christian (1,060 hits). - Sitush (talk) 11:11, 11 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, I do not think that you are doing yourself any favours with your continued edits to this article. Right or wrong, the fact that you are refusing to engage in a discussion when the terminology & the introduction of Lebanese ethnicity into the lead of the article are both moot points is counter-productive. I notice that you have also had issues with another article and the cumulative effect is that you are getting quite close to being blocked for "disruptive editing". Can we please talk about this without further disruption on the article itself. I have explained my position but have heard no explanation from you. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 01:27, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I edited the lead of the article about Carlos Slim and you deleted my edit. I have no problem to engage in a discussion on this now that you have posted this message. You mention that the introduction of Lebanese ethnicity into the lead of the article is a moot point. Unfortunately I do not agree with you. Carlos Slim is originally Lebanese and emirgrated to Mexico at the age of 14. The first 14 years of his life were in Lebanon where he was born. He has lived in Mexico for the last 57 years of his life and is a Mexican National. Although he is a Mexican citizen, Arabic is his mother tongue and he claims to be of Lebanese origin. He was in Lebanon 18 months ago and visited his village and extended family who he his in contact with. As you will appreciate they are proud of his success. Although you may see this as a moot point people in Lebanon and in particular his village and extended family do not. With regards to his religion, he is an Maronite and belongs to what is known as the Maronite Catholic Church. If you do some research you will realise that the Holy see (Vatican) refers to the church as the Maronite Catholic Church. The church is in communion with Rome and technically Maronites are Catholics. The Catholic Church preaches the christian religion but has its own dogmas and beliefs that are not necessarily mentioned in the bible like many of the other christian churches. Anyway, the point here is that the church is The Maronite Catholic Church and its followers are known as Maronite Catholics, not Maronite Christians like you mention. Catholics generally refer to themselves as Catholic not Christian. Protestants generally refer to themselves as Christian eventhough both religions are technically Christian(Some Protestant churches would challenge this.) I edited another article and some keeps deleting my edit without contacting me. The information is correct and very interesting. I think the person deleting this information needs to contact me and explain why they are removing this information. The person C.Fred who has deleted the information has blocked my account. He deleted the info without contact me. What do I do? Thanks

March 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Carlos Slim, please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ''Please do not introduce new material to this article - which has a history of being vandlised - without providing a citation. If you have difficulties with citing the source of your information then feel free to ask and I'll show you how. Thanks.'' Sitush (talk) 10:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Carlos Slim, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. ''I have asked you before to take this issue to the discussion on the article's talk page. For this reason I have now issued a "vandal" warning, sorry. Take a look at the page and contribute there - the consensus will become apparent in due course. Thanks.'' Sitush (talk) 00:16, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did in this edit to Belgravia. Inappropriate links include links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that serve as advertising or promotion. Thank you. ArglebargleIV (talk) 00:33, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Carlos Slim, you may be blocked from editing. Sorry, I've explained this before and you still refuse to discuss Sitush (talk) 01:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

This is your last warning; the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Carlos_Slim, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Sitush (talk) 01:47, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I now understand how wikipedia operates. As mentioned it was my first time. Anyway, I want to repeat my point about Maronite Catholic. The church is officialy known as THE MARONITE CATHOLIC CHURCH. When a Maronite is asked about his/her religion they will say Maronite if they are among people who know the religion and will say Catholic or Maronite catholic to those who have not heard of this eastern rite Maronite catholic church. Even the Vatican will confirm the church is known as the Maronite Catholic Church. It is a christian church no doubt and you could argue that since it is a christian religion, why the fuss whether Carlos Slim is Maronite Christian or Maronite Catholic. It is the same when a Catholic person is asked about his/her religion. They will usually say Catholic, rarely will they say Christian. It is indeed a christian church but it is known as the Catholic church and if you are a member of that church you will be known as a Catholic. Likewise, if you are a member of the Maronite Catholic Church you will be known as a Maronite Catholic not Maronite Christian. Please let me know what you think?

Carlos Slim
Please, talk. Read all of the above here and engage. If it happens again then you are likely to be blocked permanently from editing Wikipedia, which would be a great shame. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 01:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Carlos Slim. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

I recommend that your next step in this situation be to discuss your proposed changes at Talk:Carlos Slim. —C.Fred (talk) 01:52, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
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The conflict arises from the appearance that you are adding yourself to the list of notable residents. —C.Fred (talk) 02:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * It is actually not me I am adding.
 * The information about the Upper Belgrave Street address was both informative and correct yet it was deleted.
 * Can you explain why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elietaktouk (talk • contribs)


 * You're not adding information about yourself? Explain this edit, then, where you added the following to the Belgravia article: "entrepreneur Elie Taktouk who lives in Upper Belgrave Street".[embedded URL removed]
 * Your account is named Elietaktouk. You've added mention of an Elie Taktouk to the article in question. Who is that, if not you? —C.Fred (talk) 17:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for your disruption caused by edit warring by violation of the three-revert rule. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text below this notice, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. —C.Fred (talk) 02:55, 13 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The block was primarily for your edit to Carlos Slim. Note that you made three intervening edits to Belgravia—which you were warned about above as well—after I gave you the three-revert-rule warning above. The "You have new messages" message would have been at the top of your screen well before you made the last revert to Carlos Slim.
 * Why did you not reply to the series of messages on your talk page up to the point you were blocked? —C.Fred (talk) 03:38, 13 March 2011 (UTC)