User talk:Elinruby/Archives/2020/September

Car Wash from 40,000 feet
Hi, Elinruby, I was wondering if you could take a 40,000-foot view of the situation with the Car Wash suite of articles, and see how they look to you, and whether they need some adjustments? I say "suite of articles" now, because there's the main article, Operation Car Wash, and then the two articles we worked on in draft, the "Offshoots" article, which was released in January, and the "Phases" article, which was just released Sunday. And then, there's the new nav template, Operation Car Wash, which is partly a translation of pt:Template:Lava Jato and partly a redesign and extension of it. These seem like the "Big Four". There are a few additional supporting articles, like Odebrecht–Car Wash leniency agreement, Brazilian Anti-Corruption Act, Caixa 2, Condução coercitiva, and I may have forgotten some others.

This frees me up to go back to the French Drafts still open: Draft:Government of Vichy France and Draft:Liberation of France, (and one German/French one: Draft:War guilt question&mdash;which is a really fascinating topic&mdash;the French article on it is a "Featured article" and worth a read). I recently released Sigmaringen enclave, which was fun, and instructive. I'm also open to expanding Brazil coverage in areas outside of OCW, but you know a lot more than I do in this area, so was hoping to hear your thoughts on all this. Mathglot (talk) 07:28, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Decided to open this up on the article talk page for wider input. Thanks. Mathglot (talk) 22:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

possibly Tuesday. Need superficial skimming today and will be tied up tomorrow. But yeah, didn't forget any of that and will do a session soon. Elinruby (talk) 23:03, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No rush. Just an addendum, to mention that the former Draft, now article, Government of Vichy France, is available in mainspace. Plenty of stuff still to do on it, including integrating it better (more in-links), as well as tidying and consistency between different sections. I'm working on getting redirects set up, that will connect the four French Vichy government articles to the four "government" sections in the article. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 07:11, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

BLP warning
Fram (talk) 09:01, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

I will notify you if I decide you are worth reporting. Most likely, since you appear to conflate reliable sources with sources you have heard of, and this is a serious problem. AGF that you care and are not being paid by the hour. Meanwhile, you do realize that I have nothing to do with this article, right! I was there because I was working the uncategorized queue ;) But now I *am* going to take an interest, because now you are not only ignoring reliable sources in Spanish, but on English as well. Ta ta. Elinruby (talk) 20:52, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Pio Obrador
Thanks for your support. The article is very short, and I have expressed my opposition to its removal.Calmecac5 (talk) 00:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * They are not reading the Spanish. If they understood it they would not be saying it has nothing to do with Brazil Elinruby (talk) 00:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * oh hey. I just recognized you from Operation Car Wash. I am going to go see if I can link in to this from one of those pages.Elinruby (talk) 00:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy notice - Sanctions related to BLP information
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War of 1812
Various comments you have made to me or about me can be seen as personal attacks. Could you please avoid commenting on other editors and stick to commenting on article content on article discussion pages and content noticeboards. In addition to hurting people's feelings, personal attacks are a distraction from discussions about article content. TFD (talk) 18:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * says the man who called me a liar and deluded. You don't seem able to see the issue with this behaviour and that's an observation, not an attack. How about you answer a question about your sources sometime? Read the policies you are citing? These are specific examples of observed behavour, not personal attacks. I actually agree that a topic ban may be in order, since everyone else in the article seems able to discuss. Elinruby (talk) 19:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I'd suggest cooling it. There are a lot of folks on noticeboards that can or know someone that can swing a ban hammer. We might disagree but sheesh who wants that?Tirronan (talk) 04:59, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't want that for anyone and I probably do, but I don't want to go there. What I want is for this article to be accurate so how about let's edit collaboratively and find a point of agreement. Any of the following for example: Canadian history, is that a thing. At all. And I am being told that no it isn't. Or hey, is it ok to discuss military strategy on an article contained in three military history categories. The answer is that yes, we do a lot of that actually and for some reason we aren't allowed to use military strategists as a source? Does that makes sense? I have God help me edited enough military history articles to know one when I see one. So solving that one would be a start. I just added this to US foreign relations, btw, and there are a few others it should have. Sovereignty law for sure if there is one Elinruby (talk) 05:13, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Since the issue has not been resolved, I have brought it to ANI and you may reply there. TFD (talk) 02:50, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

War of 1812
Your recent editing history at War of 1812 shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. TFD (talk) 00:21, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Correct me if I am wrong, but did you not just do a second revert within twelve hours? I'm actually declining the edit war you are trying to bait me into. Take it to a noticeboard of you disagree. But I am busy right now, sorry. Elinruby (talk) 00:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The part of BRD you are not getting is "discuss" -- try again. Elinruby (talk) 00:51, 3 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Elinruby, you can safely ignore this misplaced user-warning template.
 * User:The Four Deuces, I have responded to you at your Talk page about misuse of warning templates. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 01:39, 3 July 2020 (UTC)