User talk:Elinruby/Archives/2021/March

French Constitution of 27 October 1946
Thanks for your efforts to expand French Constitution of 27 October 1946 from fr:Constitution française du 27 octobre 1946, in particular, the new section on adoption, including the two constitutional referendums. I started adding some links and ill's, and one of them was blue (i.e, the ill rendered as a regular, blue wikilink, with no bracketed fr-link), which means that the English article exists already. Lo and behold, it turns out someone created the article 1945 French constitutional referendum back in 2007, which pretty much duplicates the content of just the Referendum section, including the stuff you translated. This perfectly reflects the large overlap between the two French articles fr:Constitution française du 27 octobre 1946 and fr:Référendum constitutionnel français de 1945. I don't know why they bothered having two articles about this in French, or if it was worth having two of them why they didn't just summarize the latter in the former, in a WP:Summary style relationship.

In any case, I just wanted to let you know, in case you decide to further expand French Constitution of 27 October 1946, that some of it may already be in that other article, or&mdash;who knows?&mdash;maybe in some other article somebody created on en-wiki. Ultimately, I think we should probably merge French Constitution of 27 October 1946 and 1945 French constitutional referendum, but I'm not overly concerned about dealing with that now; I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the whole situation, so you know to look out for content relating to this 1946 Constitution which may already exist elsewhere. Mathglot (talk) 22:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I usually do a straight translation, then edit and wikilink the translation. I really don't ask questions when it comes to French legalese, just try to get the verb tenses right. Is this other article about the 27th October law? I will attempt to unravel. I also wondered why the preamble to this particular constitution rates its own article also. I seem to recall that the Fifth Republic had to do with decolonization?
 * In any event the sort of extreme bureaucratically infinitesimal meticulousness that we see here probably has its place. Remember what happened in the Third Republic. Clearly the people who planned this transition were being careful to avoid another hero who kept absolute power for himself and therefore they pretty much assumed the French would vote against another Third Republic in the referendum. So how is this constitution notable? Well, women can vote now. The proposed new political architecture was what they called a "rationalized" parliamentary system. I have questions about how to say that in ten words or less. But in any event, yes, if there isn't a concordance for the French constitution, it would be nice to have an overall survey. As far as this document is concerned, it came to be as a result of the LoF but I can summarize it in a couple of sentences Elinruby (talk) 23:38, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Disambiguation pages in need of cleanup
Hello, Elinruby. You recently added 'Category:Disambiguation pages in need of cleanup' to the page Tmolus (mythology). That category is only a container for disambiguation pages that have dated clean-up tags, either Disambiguation cleanup or Hndis-cleanup; the category should not be added by hand. If a disambiguation page needs cleanup, you can add the appropriate cleanup template. In this case, though, Tmolus (mythology) does not seem to be a disambiguation page – at least, it is not formatted as one. I have therefore removed the category from the page. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 02:27, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

all I really know about disambiguation pages is that I get yelled at if my wikilinks go there. The page certainly needs something, and lists multiple possibilities for the name, is all I know. I see from other notifications that it's being dealt with with page moves, which is fine with me; I was only there because it was listed as needing categories. Cheers for the post however Elinruby (talk) 03:27, 28 March 2021 (UTC)